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Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

I didnt see this posted so i though i would share this. i got it from PerezHilton.com. heres what was on the site. i just copied and pasted it.

Now that Dr. Conrad Murray has officially been charged with involuntary manslaughter for the death of Michael Jackson, it's highly unlikely that he's gonna get any special treatment - including a plea deal!

"Dr. Murray's involuntary manslaughter charge is a straight felony, meaning it can't be reduced to a misdemeanor… there is very little incentive to strike a deal," said attorney Mark Geragos, who is not involved in the case.

The Jackson family will probably be happy!

"Dr. Murray will vehemently defend himself against the charge. He will not change his plea to guilty, period. This case is going to trial," said a source close to the defendant.

The doctor could face up to four years on prison if convicted. The dramaz continue in court on April 5th.



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Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

mjlovergurl003 said:
"Dr. Murray will vehemently defend himself against the charge. He will not change his plea to guilty, period. This case is going to trial," said a source close to the defendant.
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^^That's what I don't get - he's already admitted to giving Michael Propofol, and Propofol intoxication (acute, may I add) was the primary cause of Michael's death... Sooo... How could he plead not guilty? Is there something I'm missing? It's not like they're charging him with murder - then he could say 'I'm not guilty of murder because what happened was an accident', but involuntary manslaughter is exactly that, and he's pleading not guilty?
Wth?:scratch:
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

i think the reason he pleaded not guilty bc he cant admit that he killed Michael and was working outside of a hospital with a dangerous drug. he seems to think he didnt do anything wrong but he did and now he needs to grow up, be a man and admit he is a murderer and he killed Michael Jackson. then again who knows. he's just a coward if you ask me.
 
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Fluffy_Oz said:
^^That's what I don't get - he's already admitted to giving Michael Propofol, and Propofol intoxication (acute, may I add) was the primary cause of Michael's death... Sooo... How could he plead not guilty? Is there something I'm missing? It's not like they're charging him with murder - then he could say 'I'm not guilty of murder because what happened was an accident', but involuntary manslaughter is exactly that, and he's pleading not guilty?
Wth?:scratch:
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I think he's seeing the whole thing this way: He gave Mike propofol and a few other drugs but Michael did not die from this, but rather from taking medication for a long time in his life.
I mean, yes, Michael admitted before that he was addicted to drugs for some time but that was over. He made it, he was not taking drugs all of the time throughout his life! I think he only took some normal drugs against his pain or insomnia or whatever but not as much as a drug addict or so! He actually died from the propofol and other medication that Murray gave him in the end!
So that's why I don't understand Murray pleading for not guilty, either!
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

^Yeah. Murray's defence is going to be that MJ is a drug addict and others killed him. Even Murray's uncle is pushing how other drs gave MJ lots of drugs etc. The drug theory has been pushed since day one, and only wished we could get expert prosecutors (and caring prosecutors) to carefully flesh out the inaccuracy of that theory.
 
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You can't drug addiction killed him because his organs and over health was fine. And one of the reasons you tell people not to take drugs is because of there health. Michael would have to be the only drug addict in the history of the world to have used drugs and stayed healthy. Now silly does that sound? And lets not forget no other drugs were found in Michael's system
 
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any normal judge will not even allow murray to use that defence as its irrelevent to the case anyway. his negligent acts of not having monitoring equipment.using dip in the home for a ailment that it should not have been used for is what he is on trial for.murray had mjs medical record from back to 06. he cannot claim he didnt know mj was taking other things. also he could only use this defence if a contributing factor to the death included a drug that murray had not given him that night.problem for murray is that was not the case and even worse for him is the only drugs in mjs system were the ones he gave him. he has no defence at all and even if there had been other drugs in mjs system that still does not answer the main charge of why he was so negligent in not having the right equipment around why he was sat on the phone etc. that is what caused mjs death and nothing else..if mj had been upto the eyeballs in other drugs yet murray had been watching him and had the right equipment then mj would prob still be here now.as normal the defence will try and distract ppl from the facts of this case because they have no defence and this is all they can do. its upto the judge to be strong enough to not even allow murray to use this defence in the first place
 
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i agree. i dont think the judge should allow such a defence when the corners report does clearly show that propfol was the only drug found in michael's system along with anything else that was given to michael by murray. they can use the defence of michael being a drug addict all they want but the facts speak for themselves. IF Murray KNEW that Michael was using other drugs for pain or his insomnia then WHY did he continue to give michael other drugs that would end up killing him?? any Doctor should know thats dangerouis and would end up with the patient eather sick, hospitalized, or dead. Murray didnt seem to care and he was extremly careless with even having the drug in the house and not in a hospital.
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

Who gave Murray MJ's medical record? And I don't think the judge can disallow a certain defence. Granted, I agree it makes no sense, but i think in the US a defence can use any strategy as long as it is not illegal; no matter how insane it sounds.
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

well in mjs case they had loads of hearings about being able to use certain evidence. granted that was the prosecution but i presume the same can be done for the defence?
 
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Didn't the DA state that Murray's behavior did NOT result into a felony? Or did I get something wrong? :scratch:
 
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MS must be a felony. its only one below murder
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
MS must be a felony. its only one below murder
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he is charged with Involuntary Manslaughter not manslaughter or what does MS stand for in your posting?

Sry.

EDIT: I think they state that a felony was committed, sry again re-read it now.

felony.jpg
 
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of course he don't plea guilty, he wants to show that somehow he accidentally give MJ double the amount of propofol needed to kill a human being after giving other pills and "monitoring" him without any equipments and waiting more than 45 min to call 911....

accident... my ass.

4 years in prison is not enough. even a lifetime isn't enough, so i feel.
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

MicHil said:
of course he don't plea guilty, he wants to show that somehow he accidentally give MJ double the amount of propofol needed to kill a human being after giving other pills and "monitoring" him without any equipments and waiting more than 45 min to call 911....

accident... my ass.

4 years in prison is not enough. even a lifetime isn't enough, so i feel.
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Well, if you see it like this, a lifetime would be fair, because Michael has lost his life and so would he, if he came in jail for a lifetime. What you wanna do in jail - enjoy your life? I don't think so!
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

f*ck me, I don't understand anything anymore!
 
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This is off topic but I just have to say -to see "did unlawfully kill ... Michael Jackson, a human being.." has made me cry. For a long time that is all I have wanted was for Michael to receive JUSTICE as a HUMAN BEING!

He did not get it in life. I hope he gets it in death.
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

probably the only time they have called mj a human
 
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TheChosenOne said:
This is off topic but I just have to say -to see "did unlawfully kill ... Michael Jackson, a human being.." has made me cry. For a long time that is all I have wanted was for Michael to receive JUSTICE as a HUMAN BEING!

He did not get it in life. I hope he gets it in death.
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this got to me too when I read that document. Michael Jackson, a human being. He had to die for people to remember that he was a person...:(
 
Re: Murray Not getting off easy (from perezhilton)

mjlovergurl003 said:
I didnt see this posted so i though i would share this. i got it from PerezHilton.com. heres what was on the site. i just copied and pasted it.

Now that Dr. Conrad Murray has officially been charged with involuntary manslaughter for the death of Michael Jackson, it's highly unlikely that he's gonna get any special treatment - including a plea deal!

"Dr. Murray's involuntary manslaughter charge is a straight felony, meaning it can't be reduced to a misdemeanor… there is very little incentive to strike a deal," said attorney Mark Geragos, who is not involved in the case.

The Jackson family will probably be happy!

"Dr. Murray will vehemently defend himself against the charge. He will not change his plea to guilty, period. This case is going to trial," said a source close to the defendant.

The doctor could face up to four years on prison if convicted. The dramaz continue in court on April 5th.



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We will see.
In the United States, where the felony/misdemeanor distinction is still widely applied, the Federal government defines a felony as a crime punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year. If punishable by exactly one year or less, it is classified as a misdemeanor. [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
MS must be a felony. its only one below murder
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Involunatary manslaughter is a felony. Also, no criminal defendant would ever plead guilty of what he is charged. That never ever happens. If so, then why defend himself if he already tells the judge he is guilty of the crime?
 
are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

btw shouldnt we have a sticky tmz thread


http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/23/dr-conrad-mu...trict-attorney/

Dr. Conrad Murray -- Something's Rotten

Posted Feb 23rd 2010 3:00AM by TMZ Staff

Dr. Conrad Murray's legal team believes the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office is "suspiciously slow" in turning over documents from the Michael Jackson involuntary manslaughter investigation ... sources close to the defense tell TMZ.

As one source puts it, "The prosecution had eight months to accumulate their evidence and we still haven't received it. Something here isn't right."

Dr. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter and the defense has not ruled out a plea bargain. But as one source connected to Murray tells TMZ -- because the defense team hasn't received the docs, "We don't have enough to know if we're going to deal."

A spokesperson for the District Attorney's Office calls any suggestion of impropriety "ridiculous," saying, "There are hundreds of documents that are being stamped and when the process is completed, they will be turned over."
 
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well..well..
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Dr. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter and the defense has not ruled out a plea bargain. But as one source connected to Murray tells TMZ -- because the defense team hasn't received the docs, "We don't have enough to know if we're going to deal."
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Look at that, a straight up pack of fools!

Talking about a possible plea, when they haven't even seen what the prosecution evidence is. Which just sort of tells you that they obviously know that their client's goose is cooked.

Bringing the word "plea" into the conversation before they have even seen the evidence, also shows the defense's hand, per se, i.e. they know they are up the creek with no paddle!
 
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exactly, whoever thought u woud find a bunch of lawyers thicker than sneddon
 
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...and who are paying these people again?
 
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rainny said:
...and who are paying these people again?
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Most of these fools work "PRO BONO," because they like seeing their names in the paper.

Remember in the beginning when Chernoff would make ALL of the media rounds, until he started putting his foot in his mouth so often that he decided to get a spokesperson.

Now they have this new attorney who apparently loves talking to "RadarOnLine." Which is funny to me, because back in the day, an attorney worth his salt would not waste his or her time talking to any GOSSIP entities.
 
Re: are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

Here's another article that references "Plea Deal".

Latest Michael Jackson News: Murray's Lawyers Suspicious, Kardashian Connection, New $300 Million Creditor Claim
Posted by Mitch Michaels on 02.23.2010

Your daily Michael Jackson update...
http://www.411mania.com/music/news/...nnection,-New-$300-Million-Creditor-Claim.htm

Here are some quick hits in the always newsworthy world of the late Michael Jackson.

Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers have made comments that something seems fishy about how slow the LA County DA's office has been in handing over documents in the manslaughter case. "The prosecution had eight months to accumulate their evidence and we still haven't received it. Something here isn't right." Lawyers are very interested in a plea bargain on the charge, but feel they don't have enough time due to the document hold-ups. Someone at the DA's office called the suggestion "ridiculous," saying, "There are hundreds of documents that are being stamped and when the process is completed, they will be turned over."

Kourtney Kardashian and her son Mason hung out with the Jacksons this weekend at a birthday party. Turns out both Kourtney and Kim Kardashian used to date two of Tito Jackson's sons when they were teenagers. The birthday party was held at the Jackson family compound in Encino Sunday for Tito's grandson. Michael's kids were there too.

Finally, AllGood Entertainment has filed a crippling $300 Million creditor claim against Michael Jackson's estate. They say they had a deal for a Jackson family concert and that Michael broke their deal when signed on for the "This Is It" London shows last year. AllGood filed suit in October 2009, asking for profits from "This Is It" along with revenues from the Sony catalog. A rep says Michael "secretly teamed up with AEG [Live] to produce a concert or series of concerts in London." A Jackson family lawyer calls the claim "frivolous and wholly without merit."

 
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Let's hope Murray starts to sing like a bird. :cheeky:
 
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Grrrrrr..........



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea_bargain

"A plea bargain (also plea agreement, plea deal or copping a plea) is an agreement in a criminal case whereby the prosecutor offers the defendant the opportunity to plead guilty, usually to a lesser charge or to the original criminal charge with a recommendation of a lighter than the maximum sentence.

A plea bargain gives criminal defendants the opportunity to avoid sitting through a trial risking conviction on the original more serious charge. For example, a criminal defendant charged with a felony theft charge, the conviction of which would require imprisonment in state prison, may be offered the opportunity to plead guilty to a misdemeanor theft charge, which may not carry jail time."
 
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