Lawyer for Jackson's Doctor Says No Plea Bargain

Re: are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

imo the reason that they are taking so long giving them the case is because they may think something is fishy and want to make sure everything is in order before they hand the case over to them. That's just my opinion.
 
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The judge should make an example out of Murray as a message to all doctors. No plea deal should be offered, not in this case. The whole world is watching. Will it be the same judge who set the bail? If so then maybe he will give the max punishment.
 
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Murray and his attorny's make me sick, the PR games they're playing isn't fooling anyone.
 
Re: are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

Murray and his team are playing the PR game to make the LAPD and DA look incompetant. I pray a plea bargain is not arranged, I cannot for one see the Jackson family agreeing to a plea bargin.
 
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a plea bargain is my worst fear. i want a trial and i want murray to serve jailtime. a plea bargain with a single IM charge and no previous convictions could mean he gets off without jail. the DA would be an ******* if he offered one. this case should be easy to win for the prosecution. it would have been different if they had charged him with murder 2. i hope they went for IM bc they dont want to offer a deal and want to bring this case to trial and win big time. let's hope that's their reasoning.
 
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A spokesperson for the District Attorney's Office calls any suggestion of impropriety "ridiculous," saying, "There are hundreds of documents that are being stamped and when the process is completed, they will be turned over."
Let's hope these hundreds of documents are showing that the DA is getting things all laid out to lower the smack down.

If MJ wasn't able to just walk away from this situation, Murray shouldn't be able to either. If Murray is truly a friend of MJ's...as he claims that he is...then he should be willing to say he is sorry by doing his time.

MJ was not planning to sleep forever.
 
Re: are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

a plea bargain with a single IM charge and no previous convictions could mean he gets off without jail. the DA would be an ******* if he offered one.


Not only that, but wouldn't a plea bargain mean that, later

on, Murray gets to write whatever he wants about what

happened without showing proof?

I wonder.
 
Re: are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

No. MURRAY's case will beheard by a different judge from a totally different are of Los Angeles. And I pray he will not be offered a PB! As much damage as he has caused, his butt needs to go to jail, period.
 
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Oh God... :angel: I keep getting bad feelings.
 
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I hope and pray that there will be no plea bargain!! There should be a trial, Murray needs to do some serious time IMHO.
 
Re: are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

from what i read on other boards u cant even plea bargin from a felony down to a misdemeanor which is what would have to happen in this case. no need for the all the omg theres gonna be plea just based on this article. its pretty obvious what it shows and it aint that the pros are gonna offer a plea
 
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^^
I hope you are right. Maybe because it is a homicide he can plea down. However, I have seen defence councelors do it all the time. I'm just too tired to look up case law right now.
What I have never heard or seen before is a judge changing the charges upwards. But, hey, judges can do just about whatever they want to. So we'll have to wait and see.
 
Re: are the defence already sniffing around for a plea bargin?

from what i read on other boards u cant even plea bargin from a felony down to a misdemeanor which is what would have to happen in this case. no need for the all the omg theres gonna be plea just based on this article. its pretty obvious what it shows and it aint that the pros are gonna offer a plea

You can plea from a felony to a misdemeanor - happens all the time.

http://www.expungecriminalrecordcalifornia.com/reduce-felony-to-misdemeanor/
 
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I'm praying that it will not be downgraded to a misdemeanor
 
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thanks but that links seems to say u can get a conviction for a felony reduced later on based on certain things. it isnt imo talking about plea bargins. its getting it changed after u have already been convicted and depends on numerous things like what u were convicted on being able to be classed as both a felony or a misdemeanor etc
 
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Involuntary Manslaughter is as low as it can go.
How far down lenient to shave off?
 
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If the DA felt that Murray had something to offer like more doctors and names they would have gave him the highest charge possible only to get him to plea to the lowest so he can talk to them about what he knew. But Murray has nothing to offer so they don't have to offer him any kind of deal at all
 
Lawyer for Jackson's Doctor Says No Plea Bargain
By LINDA DEUTSCH (AP) – 6 hours ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSEkpkBlh2G9xq40AVfdZLbF_KBgD9F42NBO2
LOS ANGELES — The lawyer for Michael Jackson's doctor says there will be no plea bargain in the involuntary manslaughter case, though he worries whether an impartial jury can be seated for a trial in the death of one of the world's most famous and idolized entertainers.

The case against Dr. Conrad Murray is complicated, involving drugs, dosages, medical protocols and other complex issues. Defense lawyers and prosecutors are crafting their legal strategies ahead of a summertime preliminary hearing where much of the evidence may become public.
Already, potentially damaging information about Murray has been revealed.
An autopsy report found Jackson died from an overdose of the powerful anesthetic propofol. In a statement to police, Murray acknowledged giving Jackson the drug and other sedatives to help him sleep, then briefly leaving his bedside. Cellular phone records show he made at least three personal calls around the time Jackson was stricken.

A Jackson employee who said he was in the room while Murray worked to save the pop star told police the doctor interrupted CPR to collect drug vials.

Murray maintains his innocence, and his lawyer, Ed Chernoff, has said nothing that he gave Jackson "should have" killed him. Chernoff noted the Jackson employee gave a different version of events to police in another statement.

"You may find after you are done watching the trial that it is not nearly as cut and dried as has been presented," Chernoff told The Associated Press in a recent interview. "One thing that simply will never be the truth is that Dr. Murray pumped a bunch of drugs into Michael Jackson and walked out of that room. He's not that kind of guy."

The King of Pop was 50 when he died on June 25 in his rented Bel Air mansion, on the brink of a series of comeback shows in London. Murray, a 57-year-old cardiologist with practices in Houston and Las Vegas, was hired by the superstar to look after his health during the rigorous rehearsals and planned to accompany Jackson to London.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren will seek to prove the doctor acted with "gross negligence" when he gave the singer propofol to help him sleep.

The anesthetic is supposed to be used in hospital situations for surgery and patients are to be monitored constantly by anesthesia professionals. The drug's effects are intensified when used in conjunction with other sedatives.

Prosecution experts are expected to say it was reckless to use it in a private home without proper equipment.

TMZ has reported that among the defense strategies being discussed is the possibility Jackson administered the fatal dose himself. Chernoff declined to discuss how he might defend Murray and said a final decision won't be made until he hears the prosecution's theory at the preliminary hearing.

Regardless of what prosecutors present, he said there will be no plea bargain.

"Plea bargains are for guilty people," he said.
Realistically, there's little incentive for either side to push for a plea bargain.

Prosecutors brought a relatively minor charge with a maximum sentence of just four years, so there's not much room to negotiate down.
"The district attorney didn't overcharge the case," said celebrity attorney Harland Braun, whose clients included Dr. Allan Metzger of Los Angeles, an internist and rheumatologist who had a close relationship with Jackson and was godfather to one of the singer's children. "They are charging what they think they can prove."

Murray already is deeply in debt and pleading to a felony would open him to liability in a civil damages trial. The Jackson family has spoken of suing Murray for wrongful death.

To gain a conviction at trial, prosecutors will have to walk jurors through Jackson's complicated medical history as well as the events leading up to his death. That will be crucial, said Ellyn Garafalo, a prominent defense attorney who is representing a doctor charged in the Anna Nicole Smith drug case.

"The biggest hurdle they have is to show whatever Dr. Murray did caused Michael Jackson's death," she said. "They're going to have to say he knew or should have known that what he did could have resulted in death."
An element of the defense theory, Braun said, may be that Jackson was a demanding patient who insisted on propofol, a drug he had taken for a long time.

"The defense theory is Michael Jackson needed
it, wanted it, knew the danger and took the risks," Braun said.
Garafalo said that while such an argument can be made in an effort to persuade the jury, it is not a legal defense.

"It's like saying I asked someone to shoot me and he did, so he's not guilty," she said.

Prosecutors will argue that the doctor bears the ultimate responsibility for his actions and can't be absolved because the patient may have pressured him to do something he should have known was dangerous.
Jackson's celebrity is sure to influence the case and Chernoff worries about seating a jury.

"There is a real concern that we have about getting a group of jurors that are going to come into court and are not going to have any preconceived notions of guilt," he said.

But publicity in this case is everywhere, he said, so seeking a change of venue is unlikely. "The problem is we have this around-the-world stuff," said Chernoff. "Even in the O.J. Simpson trial, people in Uganda didn't care about it. But in this case, they care in Uganda and everywhere else." (Aside: That's an understatement.):angel:

AP writers Thomas Watkins and Anthony McCartney contributed to this story.
 
Conrad Murray has joined the "DARK SIDE".

We fans must pray to God for the strength we will need to endure.
:angel:
 
As usual, Linda Deutsch is able to write an article and pretty much stick to the facts without the other BS being brought in. I just wish she would do more of the reporting on this whole thing. She did a very good job during the last trial, unlike 99% of the rest of the media.
 
"Chernoff declined to discuss how he might defend Murray and said a final decision won't be made until he hears the prosecution's theory at the preliminary hearing."

I know that's how things go in trials, but at the same time I couldn't help but read between the lines... first we have to hear which facts the prosecution knows so that we can sufficiently make up some BS fantasy story to contradict it. I completely agree about praying for the strength to get through this. Lord knows we'll need it. It's not going to be easy for anyone :no:
 
that fool aint gonna be offered one. and what the statement really means is we are intresting in talking to the D.A about any possible plea. thats how it normally works. abd for once linda is about old. his lawyer said this a good few weeks back
 
"Chernoff declined to discuss how he might defend Murray and said a final decision won't be made until he hears the prosecution's theory at the preliminary hearing."
i thought the truth is the truth? you dont need to build it around the prosecutions theory. what murray says happened either happened or it didnt. sounds like sneddon building his case around whatever the defence is
 
Isn't this old news?

kinda.. TMZ already reported it through their sources.. apparently now Chernoff gave an interview saying the same thing.. it's like getting official confirmation of the previously reported story.
 
Isn't he already getting the lowest charge for killing someone in the manner he did, of course there is no plea deal....he is already getting a sweet deal.
 
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Isn't he already getting the lowest charge for killing someone, of course there is no plea deal....he is already getting a sweet deal.
i think theres lower charges. just negligence? killing someone is either done with intent or not. so theres not many charges you can go with.
 
i think theres lower charges. just negligence? killing someone is either done with intent or not. so theres not many charges you can go with.
but he can't get just negligence, the autopsy says homicide and murray already admitted to administering the propfol just not the fatal dose according to him. Either way i'm not happy with the charges, i feel this is a 2nd degree murder case.
 
doesnt matter if it says homicide. someone can have that happen to them and nothing happens to the person who did it or have a lesser charge. it doesnt have to be a criminal act to be classed as a homicide
 
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