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They shouldn't use the word adoption because their are no adoption papers in exsistense for either of MJs kids. Legally MJ is the father on their birth certificats so stuff ish for the Jacksons! And if theie judging the kids on their looks (which I'm sure they are) then I'm surprise that they don't do the same to London Jackson (Rebbie's grandchild) who is half asian and favors that side more. Which shows how dumb they can be and know sh*t about genetics. -_- Also Tito's grandchildren and Marlons Grandchildren are all light skined having the other parent that is not black, so yea!

This is so sad I still can't believe this is happening to Michael kids. I wish they weren't minors so they can get the hell away from all of this fighting!
 
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Petrarose said:
Autumn now that the estate stated that work is being done to safeguard them legally, it does make us feel a little better. It still boggles my mind that the Jacksons were essentially trying to have a coup, be it an illegal one.
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YES, a coup. If everything were on the up-and-up, they'd simply bring Katherine HOME, to the chidren she is charged with caring for. Something is horribly wrong here. An ALTERCATION at the home,simply should not happen! OMG! Those poor children!

The executors are charged ONLY with financial issues, but SOMEONE, somehow, has to help those children. And i guess it is them?
 
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So it's TRUE!!!!! SCREW THEM ALL!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/23/janet-jackson-jermaine-jackson-photo-calabasas-family-home/
JANET & JERMAINE
FACE-OFF
at Jackson Family Home

TMZ has obtained a photo of Janet Jackson and Jermaine Jackson in a heated exchange at the Jackson family home-- shortly after Sheriff's deputies responded to an alleged battery there on Monday afternoon.

In the pic, Janet and her brother Jermaine are in front of the Calabasas compound ... clearly engaged in a heavy conversation.

We're told the photo was taken within the same hour LA County Sheriff's deputies went to Katherine Jackson's home ... after someone inside accused someone else of a physical assault.

We do not know if Jermaine and Janet were involved in that dispute.

As we previously reported, Janet and Jermaine have a lot to discuss -- the letter they and 3 other siblings signed, demanding the Executors of Michael Jackson's Estate step down ... and Katherine Jackson's puzzling trip to Arizona.
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^For those who think Janet is innocent in all of this Pff!
 
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Marissa87 said:
Wow deja vu. The media has NO LIMIT when it comes to anything concerning Michael Jackson, including his minor children. Such a hateful, hurtful article would never be written about ANYONE else.

I am so disgusted. Calling it a night. I've read enough bs today to last me a lifetime.
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how they can take advantage financially when the money are theirs? this article is so stupid...the bad part is that it looks like Kathrine is ill, otherwise she wouldn't leave the kids alone, and the family is more concern about money and fighting each other...the children are alone and this is sad, it is really something that Michael would hate!
 
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I think we can all stop wondering if that heated phone call between Janet and Paris really happened just because she was in Italy...Janet had had a MASSIVE role in this.

And as someone said earlier...we can definitely stop wondering now where most of the stories about Michael came from in the tabloids...if they are willing to do this to their niece and nephews because they have money waiting, imagine what they said about their brother while he was alive.

These people need to be exposed. What's been said about the kids is the lowest of the low and nothing will ever take those words back. Making enemies of Michael's kids was quite possibly the dumbest thing they ever did, cuz they will not get one cent for the rest of their useless lives from them.
 
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agibaba said:
Is that Austin? That is not Jerm, i was told by a friend it was Austin.
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Yeah think that. An article posted in This thread said Randy, Janet and Austin went TO the house.
 
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Vici said:
Yeah think that. An article posted in This thread said Randy, Janet and Austin went TO the house.
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if they went together why would Janet yell at him like that? Isn't it possible he was already there with the children?
 
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agibaba said:
if they went together why would Janet yell at him like that? Isn't it possible he was already there with the children?
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Dont know. I just know that Austin and Janet are really close. Maybe Austin defended MJs kids like TJ did and she lost it. Dont know.
 
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If any of this is true, leaving the kids for over a week is NOT the solution. And airing any of this in public is certainly unacceptable!

If Katherine is really having issues disciplining the kids (they are teenagers, so it wouldn't be surprising), then she needs to get counseling for all of them. She needs staff that will understand that she sets the rules, and the rest of the house follows them. Sometimes it helps to get a change of scenery, so, maybe one of the kids can stay with an aunt, uncle, or cousin for a while (with regular contact with Katherine, of course).
 
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FROM THE ESTATE OF MICHAEL JACKSON

We thank the fans for their keen interest in the matters that have been reported on recently regarding the Estate and Mrs. Jackson.

We will not comment any further on the letter we received from certain of the Jackson siblings. We think our letter in response speaks for itself.

We are acutely concerned about the welfare of Mrs. Jackson, and most particularly with Michael's minor children. We are concerned that we do what we can to protect them from undue influences, bullying, greed, and other unfortunate circumstances. While we do not have standing to directly intervene, we have monitored the situation and will continue to do so. We believe measures are being put in place that will help protect them from what they are having to deal with.

We take these matters very seriously and will continue to report on them as appropriate.

Sincerely,

John Branca
John McClain
Co-Executors
The Estate of Michael Jackson​
 
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Is that the same jumpsuit Janet was wearing on that boat in Italy?
 
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I think that may be T.J in the pic with Janet it certainly isnt jermaine
 
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its austin^
 
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Anyone remember Margaret Maldonado's book? She said the only way this family would deal with their problems was through violence. Jermaine was once up for attempted rape on Hazel and Randy was up for beating his ex wife..I don't know if they were true or not, but that family is scary and those kids are better off away from them.
 
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Elegantly Wasted said:
Anyone remember Margaret Maldonado's book? She said the only way this family would deal with their problems was through violence. Jermaine was once up for attempted rape on Hazel and Randy was up for beating his ex wife..I don't know if they were true or not, but that family is scary and those kids are better off away from them.
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I might be in the minority, but I've always believed everything in Margaret's book. If you read her and LaToya's first book back-to-back, it's crazy how similar a lot of the details are. Both praise Michael and make the rest of the family look loony.

And if you're willing to go by anything in Margaret and LaToya's book - I don't think Katherine is the saint people think she is. She's probably just the lesser of all the evils, if anything.

This entire family is dangerous, imo.
 
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cdon said:
I might be in the minority, but I've always believed everything in Margaret's book. If you read her and LaToya's first book back-to-back, it's crazy how similar a lot of the details are. Both praise Michael and make the rest of the family look loony.

And if you're willing to go by anything in Margaret and LaToya's book - I don't think Katherine is the saint people think she is. She's probably just the lesser of all the evils, if anything.

This entire family is dangerous, imo.
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I did read their books within a few months of each other, and I agree that the details were very similar. I'm convinced that most, if not all, of the stuff in those books is true (btw for anyone that hasn't read them, both Margaret and LaToya said only positive things about Michael. I think LaToya started saying the negative things after the book was already out).

The family is certainly dysfunctional, but I really don't understand Janet's involvement in this. I got the impression that she tried to stay away from the craziness. I guess I was wrong.
 
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I understand Michael had a reason to write his childrens names in the will and not only write my children.
 
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I believe them also..I think you ask any of the ex wives of the Jackson men (not all of them, as far as I know marlon is still married to the same woman..and I think he may be kind hearted like Michael)..but none of the ex's have anything good to say..and yep LaToya's said the same things. After all this craziness I don't think it's such a minority anymore!
 
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diana79 said:
I did read their books within a few months of each other, and I agree that the details were very similar. I'm convinced that most, if not all, of the stuff in those books is true (btw for anyone that hasn't read them, both Margaret and LaToya said only positive things about Michael. I think LaToya started saying the negative things after the book was already out).

The family is certainly dysfunctional, but I really don't understand Janet's involvement in this. I got the impression that she tried to stay away from the craziness. I guess I was wrong.
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Yeah. I forget which book portrayed Janet especially in a not so good light... I think it was mainly LaToya's.

Quick summary of Janet from those books:
- She partook in the beating of Joe's mistress (along with Katherine and Randy)
- Extremely anti-Semitic
- Very competitive w/Mike; boasted about how her upcoming album (Rhythm Nation?) was going to surpass Thriller, etc. Michael was hurt by this.

Katherine was portrayed as extremely two-faced in Margaret's book, always siding with her children in the end, had outdated attitudes about the roles of women... And then there was that really bizarre incident that LaToya mentioned in her book (Margaret briefly mentioned it as well) where Katherine gave her diuretics and tried to kill her... Still don't know what to think about that one, lol.
 
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Elegantly Wasted said:
I think we can all stop wondering if that heated phone call between Janet and Paris really happened just because she was in Italy...Janet had had a MASSIVE role in this.

And as someone said earlier...we can definitely stop wondering now where most of the stories about Michael came from in the tabloids...if they are willing to do this to their niece and nephews because they have money waiting, imagine what they said about their brother while he was alive.
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The stories about Mike involving drugs from Roger Friedman 2007-2008 I believe were from them.

Janet's security guard is with Katherine right now. She's had a huge role in this from the beginning.

cdon said:
I might be in the minority, but I've always believed everything in Margaret's book. If you read her and LaToya's first book back-to-back, it's crazy how similar a lot of the details are. Both praise Michael and make the rest of the family look loony.

And if you're willing to go by anything in Margaret and LaToya's book - I don't think Katherine is the saint people think she is. She's probably just the lesser of all the evils, if anything.

This entire family is dangerous, imo.
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Not just Margaret and Toya's original book, even Jermaine's book.

For example, all three of them talk about the expression Joe would get on his face before he flew into a violence. There are other subtle things in Jermaine's book too, but he covers his own butt.

But Margaret/Toya also have their books covered by other random people. Toya spoke about Joseph and guns, Joe's old manager also said Joe kept a stash of guns, so did Michael's videographer. Margaret said the Jacksons would always accuse "outsiders" they didn't like of doing voodoo. Anyone remember where the stories about Grace and voodoo kept coming from? Margaret said Joe once had security point a gun at Randy and threw him off the property and accused him of being drunk. Remind you of any of Randy's own personal incidents, security pulling the gun on him, Randy telling Stabler Michael was drunk?

The Jacksons history repeats itself endlessly, I've never seen a group of people so committed to their own pattern of behavior.
 
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MIST said:
I understand Michael had a reason to write his childrens names in the will and not only write my children.
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What did you mean by that? Do you think The Jackson's might try to convince a judge that those aren't Michael's kids?

And please can someone uppdate me on what has been going on in the last 12 hour? I went to sleep and now I can see almost 20 new pages and I don't think I have the time to read through all of them.
What's that about the Janet/Paris dispute on the phone?
 
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Now, I'm starting to wonder about where Maureen Orth's voodoo stories came from...

Also don't forget. From the 1998 book on Tina Turner "The Real T":

I listened to Tina as she continued delivering the motherly lecture to Bernadette, nodding my head in agreement. 'Bernadette, let me tell you something, you've got yourself an Ike Turner, You better get rid of him. I know you're scared Aaagh.' Tina was furious, and she threw her hands up in disgust. ''I know what it's like, Bernadette, It's best for you if you stay here tonight. Just make sure you get rid of that Randy Jackson first thing tomorrow.''

But no sooner had Tina spoken, than the noisy shuffling of footsteps could be heard outside. I paused and watched her from across the bedroom. The worry on her face was unmistakable. Bernadette had already scared the daylights out of us with horrifying stories of Randy's violence. Lejeune and Tina remained still and silent as the intrusive sounds outside continued. There was a momentary eeriness, and then, without warning, one of Tina's huge, treasured terracotta pots burst through the glass doors, exploding on impact.

Shards of razor-sharp glass sprayed like darts throughout the bedroom. There was soil and terra cotta everywhere. Everything else that followed seemed to happen so quickly.
Randy Jackson leapt through the broken window and paused for a moment breathing and sweating heavily. Then, as he moved, glass fragments on Tina's plush cream carpet could be heard crunching beneath his hard determined steps. He seemed possessed, and his wild eyes rapidly scanned the bedroom. It only took a split second to focus on what he had come for. Like an animal stalking prey, he walked towards Bernadette muttering like a crazy man about how much he loved and needed her.

In all the years I had spent with Tina, she had drilled me over and over on certain safety procedures should an intruder gain entry into her home. We always thought if it happened, it would be her ex-husband Ike. On this particular day, we were wrong. Worse still, everyone froze in shock, forgetting Tina's meticulous safety drill.

The only one to spring to action was Tina herself.

She calmly and purposefully walked into the bedroom, where her eyes immediately darted to the framed pictures on her bedside table where she hid her loaded handgun. Without looking away from the table, her hand whipped out with shocking speed and grabbed a second gun-a shotgun- from behind the freestanding oval antique mirror just next to her.
She cocked the weapon, then turned and aimed the loaded barrel at Randy Jackson's head. Her body stiff and her aim steady, she said with true determination 'Freeze or I'll blow your brains out.'

Randy did stop, but only for a split second. Locking eyes with Tina, he ignored her warning, and lunged for Bernadette.

Tina, still several feet away from Randy, raised the gun a blew a hole in the ceiling. Randy, his face a mask of brutality, charged straight at Tina like a raging bull.

Still in total control, Tina moved the barrel slightly to the side and fired towards the doorway. She pointed the gun at Randy.

Randy, suddenly terrified, leapt through the broken windows, fleeing for his life.

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I have just finished reading the last 10 or 15 pages of what happened while I was sleeping.... what a mess !!

I'm still worried about Katherine, I hope she's OK. I will definitely feel better when we hear from her directly, or from Prince or Paris.

The good news is, Paris and Prince seem to understand the situation well, and seem to be strong, I'm very proud of them. I'm worried for Blanket though, he's so young.

Anyway, I don't think the kids should continue to live in such an unhealthy environment, in perpetual drama. They will be hurt, at least psychologically, if it goes on too long. They need a minimum of peace and stability.

So, I think it's time for a new guardian. Even if Katherine means well, and is being held against her will, she is an "easy target" for those in the family who are doing these things. It's not good for the kids, and not good for her either.
 
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Elegantly Wasted said:
Anyone remember Margaret Maldonado's book? She said the only way this family would deal with their problems was through violence. Jermaine was once up for attempted rape on Hazel and Randy was up for beating his ex wife..I don't know if they were true or not, but that family is scary and those kids are better off away from them.
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I've always called these bunch of scums by what they truly are, which is criminals.
Steven an ex con anyway. I hope God screws them over. They'd certainly deserve that.
 
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