MJ Estate Sues Howard Mann and business partner Henry Vaccaro - Settlement reached

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I don't know where should I post it. Leslie writes that it's possible Mann doesn't really own the Jackson family memorabilia. What a mess.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/01/who-owns-jackson-memorablia.html
1/31/2011

Who Owns The Jackson Memorablia?

I have been asked in the blog about Henry V. Vaccaro's ownership in the Jackson Family memorablia. Because there are different informations circulating in the media.

What I found out: Vaccaro has a case against a Californa man, named Benson Hopp. In this very ongoing case Vaccaro claims that Hopp stole some of the memorablia from the warehouse where it has been kept for months, and tried to sell them on an auction.

As per a January 31st, 2011 court paper Vaccaro still claims that he is the rightful owner of the memorablia. And furthermore: Vaccaro has a $550.000 unpaid federal tax lien and while the IRS made it's own research they found out that Vaccaro is the only owner of the items.

The IRS demands to sell these items to pay Vaccaro's liens. That most probably means that all the Jackson memorablias might be sold again, and that Howard Mann's ownership is questionable.

Anyways, the greedy old man, Vaccaro got the shorter end of the stick, again.

IRS? Who would have thought that IRS would grab Vaccaro for his balls, and so soon? This is indeed good news.
In that case I hope Michael's Estate will buy back all the memorabilia's. That would have been great.
 
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Oh that would be SWEET JUSTICE!

I would love for the IRS to swoop in there and relieve Mr. Mann of his "collection." LOL! And I'd love to see the look on his face, when they do it.

Then "maybe" the Jackson family can come together and find a way to buy their belongs back. I DOUBT they would be able to come together long enough to figure this all out, but hey, it's worth a shot!
I hope that will be the case, hopefully it's going to be sold again. But no those Jackson's ain't got a dime to their name, hopefully the Estate steps in and ends this mess once and for all, if it's indeed about to be sold off again.
As for this disgusting porn guy whatever.
 
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No, I don't believe that this is by any means the complete list of recordings in Mann/Vacaro's possesion - this is just the list of recordings compiled by the Federal Receiver relating to those specific recordings sold to Universal Express by Vaccaro.

In Vaccaro's words he only sold 'the junk' to Universal Express, and then claimed that because Universal hadn't paid in full, that title to those items was still vested in one of his (vaccaro's) companies.

It's most unlikely that the estate are going to be able to recover these recordings in the short term other than by buying them (and that would appear to be a totally unpalatable idea). It's indeed quite possible that the estate may never be able to recover these recordings in the long term. Thus the estate are doing the next best thing - trying to deny anybody else (Mann or Vaccaro or whomever) the opportunity to exploit them.

The real argument in court is going to be how the 'without prejudice' judgement is tested (that's gonna be pretty tough), and whether third party rightsholders (such as Sony or Motown) could claim to have first party interests. It's likely to be a long, protracted and potentially gorundbreaking technical battle of law.
 
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Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
2/25/2011 12:50 PM PST by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson's business partner wants the MJ Estate off his back in a legal war over MJ merchandise ... claiming Michael himself picked the same fight when he was alive ... until he realized he couldn't win.



Long story short -- the Estate wants Howard Mann to stop using MJ's name and image to hock various websites, books, and other products. Problem is, according to Mann, this is the exact same lawsuit that Michael pursued back in 2004 ... only to "abandon" the legal fight in 2006.

Mann claims ... because Michael bailed on the case, and a judgment was issued against the singer, he lost the legal right to stop Mann's company from using his image to sell merchandise.

Mann claims the the Estate shouldn't get a second bite of the apple ... by being allowed to sue for the same claims in 2011.

Now, the case is in the hands of a federal judge -- who will decide to either green light the case ... or shut it down.
 
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If Mann prevails, his company will become a satelite estate, then the troubles will continue.

This is a mess! :doh:
 
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I think the issue here is trademarks. I think the estate is saying that they are the only ones who can use Michael's image because they have a trademark. And and Mann does not.
 
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Cant say anything as of now . I haven't seen the case and the decision that Mann is referring to.

However any lawsuit can have any outcome. both a win and a loss is possibility.
 
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the case Mann is refering, it's MJ vs Vaccaro
 
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Awfully strange, Katherine would align herself with this man, knowing Michael had a lawsuit out on him previously. Have to wonder what the intentions are of those who brought the two together, and Mann himself.
 
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Cant say anything as of now . I haven't seen the case and the decision that Mann is referring to.

However any lawsuit can have any outcome. both a win and a loss is possibility.

Vaccaro & Media pop
 
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I love the estate. They would make MJ proud, IMO.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
2/25/2011 12:50 PM PST by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson's business partner wants the MJ Estate off his back in a legal war over MJ merchandise ... claiming Michael himself picked the same fight when he was alive ... until he realized he couldn't win.



Long story short -- the Estate wants Howard Mann to stop using MJ's name and image to hock various websites, books, and other products. Problem is, according to Mann, this is the exact same lawsuit that Michael pursued back in 2004 ... only to "abandon" the legal fight in 2006.

Mann claims ... because Michael bailed on the case, and a judgment was issued against the singer, he lost the legal right to stop Mann's company from using his image to sell merchandise.

Mann claims the the Estate shouldn't get a second bite of the apple ... by being allowed to sue for the same claims in 2011.

Now, the case is in the hands of a federal judge -- who will decide to either green light the case ... or shut it down.

Right, so you know your son sued the same man for the exact same thing when he was alive but you still actively associate yourself with him. How is this doing it for love exactly? Love of something alright but not Michael
 
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Right, so you know your son sued the same man for the exact same thing when he was alive but you still actively associate yourself with him. How is this doing it for love exactly? Love of something alright but not Michael
Love for money... nothing else! true!
 
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I think the issue here is trademarks. I think the estate is saying that they are the only ones who can use Michael's image because they have a trademark. And and Mann does not.

Cant say anything as of now . I haven't seen the case and the decision that Mann is referring to.

However any lawsuit can have any outcome. both a win and a loss is possibility.

the case Mann is refering, it's MJ vs Vaccaro

I don't know about you, but I feel very uneasy about this. It could go horribly wrong for the estate/Michael's kids financial future ...if the federal judge shuts this down because MJ walked away from his own lawsuit.


I wanna think Michael copyrights take precedence over a "without prejudice" judgment.

But let's not hide the fact that the upcoming ruling could potentially affect the estate's longterm prospects.

I have greater faith in a jury trial...but they have to get through that judge first.




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Right, so you know your son sued the same man for the exact same thing when he was alive but you still actively associate yourself with him. How is this doing it for love exactly? Love of something alright but not Michael

:(


Anything for money $$$$$$$$$, just that. Sad truth.
 
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http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/02/legal-cases-updates.html


- Michael Jackson Estate vs. Melissa Johnson: No updates in the case since my last report. Johnson has been denied to use any of the MJ trademarks, while Howard Mann has been deposited on February 16, 2011.

Thanks for the updades.
It's shocking to see this kids being (ab)used by the same people who have been previously (ab)using Michael's good name to their own profit.
It's really shocking :doh:
 
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HEAL THE WORLD FOUNDATION DECLARATION
http://www.teammichaeljackson.com/tmj_027.htm

That is signed by Joe and katherine
I knew Joe was involved and influencing Kat_ His Signature is FIRST
THis is a shame.
This implies MJ was in some way "involved" in this thing or at least that he approved it.
I just wonder if all this was so important to the Jackson family, why on earth didn't they support it earlier? I mean YEARS earlier?
And what about the other products Melissa has registered too? As far as I know (read), it is not only about HTW, but also about those products and certainly she has no right to profit of MJ's name. She said she wanted to give all that back to the Jackson Family. But... why to the "family" if these should be just to MJ3? I just don't get it! :doh:
 
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HEAL THE WORLD FOUNDATION DECLARATION
http://www.teammichaeljackson.com/tmj_027.htm

That is signed by Joe and katherine
I knew Joe was involved and influencing Kat_ His Signature is FIRST

that's terrible. It makes it sound like this charity is same charity as Michael's being continued. I wonder if the Estate knows this.
 
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that's terrible. It makes it sound like this charity is same charity as Michael's being continued. I wonder if the Estate knows this.

I would say they must know, this is dated 2010... but still... just in case... you can always let them know :cheeky:
 
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Here is the prelim-injuction from 2/18/10...ya gotta read it...

This is a page of it....

Beginning sometime in 2001, Ms. Johnson began her bizarre, unsolicited and deluded campaign to revive and insinuate her way into Jackson's foundation, as well as her harassment of Mr. Jackson and his representatives. In a July 2001 letter to Mr. Jackson's executive assistant, Evvy Tavesci, Ms. Johnson wrote:

"I would not be bothering Michael, nor did I, for Eight years because I just couldn't fully believe it all myself. But I have seen, in a 1993 near death-type experience, the future of many things...Michael will find me, and we will go to work for the Children of our Father. MICHAEL WILL NOT GO FORWARD WITH HEAL THE WORLD FOUNDATION WITHOUT ME."

Despite the fact that Ms. Tavesci did not respond to Ms. Johnson's overture to work with her, Ms. Johnson sent Ms. Tavesci another letter in December 2001, along with a video, insisting that Ms. Tavasci look at her materials regarding Heal the World Foundation.

No longer able to deal with Ms. Johnson's harassment, including Ms. Johnson's fraudulent representation of herself as Ms. Tavesci (by sending Mr. Jackson packages with Ms. Tavesci's name and return address) and Ms. Johnson's unannounced and uninvited appearance at Mr. Jackson's residence at Neverland Valley Ranch, Ms. Tavesci sought the help of Mr. Jackson's attorneys. In January 2002, attorneys for Mr. jackson advised Ms. Johnson that her "behavior and attempted communications with Mr. Jackson are harassing, highly inappropriate and constitutes a security risk to Jackson and his employees."

Ms. Johnson's lengthy reply included and "apology" to Ms. Tavesci for using her name and return address in an unsuccessful attempt to reach Mr. Jackson. Ms. Johnson also explained that she will not apologize to Mr. Jackson as "I am fairly certain that he had no discomfort, concern or annoyance from my attempts to get him this data."

She further stated that she "cannot agree to never again contact Mr. Jackson, as I happen to know through reliable sources, that he will very much want me to contact him, work with him and help him build his charity organization."

In April 2002, Ms. Johnson composed yet another five page, single-spaced letter to Ms. Tavesci. In it, Ms. Johnson attempted to justify her numerous harassing attempts at contacting Mr. Jackson by analogizing herself to a scientist who has discovered the cure for cancer, and Mr. Jackson to the President of the United States of America:

"I realize to most, going to Mr. Jackson's house, 'from your viewpoint' would seem intrusive and violating. From my viewpoint, the idea that I 'wouldn't go' is unthinkable and cowardice. It would be like you having the cure for cancer and having to convince the medical community first that although their genius minds had tried, that little ol [sic] you, who isn't established and known in the scientific and medical fields, have possession of something so important, and then to have to convince the heavily guarded President of the United States of your discovery."

Ms. Johnson goes on to explain that she trusted Mr. Jackson "[n]ot because he is a big super star, but because an Angel of God showed me who he is in the spirit world as well as on Earth..."

Finally, and in direct opposition to Defendants' statements in their Counterclaim, Ms. Johnson admits that the relationship between her, HTWF and Mr. Jackson is non-existent: "What I did was not the right action, as it exacerbated an already non-existent relationship and caused no good effects."

http://www.rosespeak...-Injunction.pdf




http://www.rosespeaks.com/downloads/Jackson/world/2-18-10-MOTION-Preliminary-Injunction.pdf
 
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Ms. Johnson goes on to explain that she trusted Mr. Jackson "[n]ot because he is a big super star, but because an Angel of God showed me who he is in the spirit world as well as on Earth..."

Finally, and in direct opposition to Defendants' statements in their Counterclaim, Ms. Johnson admits that the relationship between her, HTWF and Mr. Jackson is non-existent: "What I did was not the right action, as it exacerbated an already non-existent relationship and caused no good effects."

http://

Ok, I agree Michael was someone totally and incredible special and unique. But then... ahhhh... he had to endure so much in life :ermm:

these people :no:

thanks for posting.
 
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That woman is a nut case! Someone should check to see if she's missing from a mental institution!:smilerolleyes:
 
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That woman is a nut case! Someone should check to see if she's missing from a mental institution!:smilerolleyes:

LoL... this made me think of good old Billie Jean... :smilerolleyes:
 
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