Let me post Leslie's update in full
Defendants evidence exhibits include
- Letter from Oxman and a lot o stuff to show his relationship to MJ.
- news/info about estate and their business relationship to Bravado and other companies
- negative stuff about Branca - that he was fired in 2003, Joe's opposition to him as an executor etc.
- documents about Brian Wolf , Legrand , Backerman, Raymone Bain
- news stories about MJ being mismanaged etc
- communications with Backerman, Bain, Boteach, Malnik, Tavasci, Spiegel, Van Alexander, etc.
- a lot of information about who registered what before/ after MJ's death
Estate is objecting to most of these on the grounds that they aren't relevant, they can bring prejudice, confusion and waste of time, lack of personal knowledge and hearsay.
Maybe it's posts from fans who donated money to HTW after Michael's passing thinking it's his official charity.
I hope the Estate sues Melissa Johnson and Howard Mann out of their minds.
ivy;3288763 said:News Flash : In light of the foregoing, Plaintiffs’ Ex Parte Application is GRANTED.
Court accepted Estate's additional complaint (that we mentioned in the first posts of this tread)
yes..I know I was one of them..like I have said before....The money that this charity has ILLEGALLY taken in since Michael's death is terrible..they used grieving fans as their prey and I hope they will no longer get away with it...and will be shut down...at this point here...to me..it is about gettng the children OFF of that websight and AWAY from Johnson and Mann.The presence of this charity after Michael passed away was immediate. Within a couple of days at most there were threads on forums and grieving fans were donating to this charity with the belief it was somehow Michael's HTWF. That could very well be what the evidence pertains to. Such a low thing to do.
Evidence exhibits for the estate includes -member posts form official MJ.com forum, Kopboard, MJFC and MJJC.
This is interesting.
Maybe it's posts from fans who donated money to HTW after Michael's passing thinking it's his official charity.
The presence of this charity after Michael passed away was immediate. Within a couple of days at most there were threads on forums and grieving fans were donating to this charity with the belief it was somehow Michael's HTWF. That could very well be what the evidence pertains to. Such a low thing to do.
yes..I know I was one of them..like I have said before....The money that this charity has ILLEGALLY taken in since Michael's death is terrible..they used grieving fans as their prey and I hope they will no longer get away with it...and will be shut down...at this point here...to me..it is about gettng the children OFF of that websight and AWAY from Johnson and Mann.
I dont really know...that is a good question..maybe Ivy can answer for us.Does it means that some fans can sue the fake association too ?
I think you can sue them for scam, however it will be quite tricky as they are actually a charity but fooling people by using Michael's name. Estate is already suing them and apparently they are using the fans donated as examples to make their case. So they are fighting for you in a sense.
I would recommend reporting them to "Better Business Bureau" if you have donated. BBB with the complaints start investigations and then flag the businesses if they are questionable.
http://charityreports.bbb.org/public/complaint/complaint.aspx
(you can even file anonymous complaint)
thank you for that information Ivy..I think you can sue them for scam, however it will be quite tricky as they are actually a charity but fooling people by using Michael's name. Estate is already suing them and apparently they are using the fans donated as examples to make their case. So they are fighting for you in a sense.
I would recommend reporting them to "Better Business Bureau" if you have donated. BBB with the complaints start investigations and then flag the businesses if they are questionable.
http://charityreports.bbb.org/public/complaint/complaint.aspx
(you can even file anonymous complaint)
I think StaceyMJ and Virginia_woolf is right. remember on thing that the estate claims that HWTF confuses people to think it's MJ's charity and cause them donate with this confusion.
I did a search on our forums last night and I saw threads in our archives that had discussions about is it legit or not, and some people saying that they donated to them thinking it's MJ's charity. I think those are the posts that they collected from kopboard, MJFC and MJJC to make their point.
ivy;3288636 said:Let me post Leslie's update in full and then comment & add to it
- A trial date has been appointed for April 19, 2011.
When we look to the HTWF (defendants) witness list we see
- They say 5 people will provide testimonies about Johnson's relationship/communication with Michael and these 5 people look like Brian Oxman, Raymone Bain, Van Alexandar, Grace Rwaramba and Stu Backerman
ivy;3288636 said:-Evidence exhibits for the estate includes
- member posts form official MJ.com forum, Kopboard, MJFC and MJJC
Vici;3290155 said:So Bain is teamed up with the defense????
This is what it said in that NBC article:
"Johnson told CBS News that she worked with the firm of Raymone Bain, Jackson’s former spokesperson, and particularly with Bain's former partner Van Alexander. But a representative for Bain told CBS News that Bain “never worked with Melissa Johnson or with the Heal the World Foundation.” Alexander, who no longer works with Bain, did not respond to messages left requesting comment."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/11/cbsnews_investigates/main5234202.shtml
Look at all those ppl.. Oxman, Van Alexander, Backerman? HAAAAA!! However, interesting what Grace will say.
Interesting! Then they would see that sane fans doesnt support her at all.. =)
wow..noway..good find Qbee...she cannot do this..the estate will get her for this for sure.Why is Mellissa Johnson using highjacked HTW foundation logo
2 sell Thongs & panties http://tiny.cc/qwjn1 - http://bit.ly/hZ4Ilv
Why is Mellissa Johnson using highjacked HTW foundation logo
2 sell Thongs & panties http://tiny.cc/qwjn1 - http://bit.ly/hZ4Ilv
Hmmm... Strange.
If you go to the seller's page HERE, the seller calls itself MJcafe.
You also see some other designs, including a logo for "Character matters".
If you search the logo on Google, it redirects you to http://mjlogo.com/character-matters.htm A website that is not live but "waiting"
Edit: I can confirm the MJLogo website to be Johnson's.
Here are the reg details:
Registrant:
HEAL THE WORLD FOUNDATION
44489 Town Center Way Ste. D425
Palm Desert, California 92260
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MJLOGO.COM
Created on: 13-Jul-06
Expires on: 13-Jul-11
Last Updated on: 19-Aug-10
Administrative Contact:
Johnson, Melissa domains@healtheworldfoundation.org
HEAL THE WORLD FOUNDATION
44489 Town Center Way Ste. D425
Palm Desert, California 92260
United States
+1.7602388911 Fax -- +1.7602628394
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Update:
Check out her design here.
But "The game of life" name has been copyrighted by the game makers here.
Why is Mellissa Johnson using highjacked HTW foundation logo
2 sell Thongs & panties http://tiny.cc/qwjn1 - http://bit.ly/hZ4Ilv