MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF lost the Appeal

[marebear]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I don't think Katherine is a bad person but she needs to stop making sure everyone in the family is taken care of financially. They are adults and need to fend for themselves. She needs to stop using Michael as that resource to provide for everyone else. He did more than enough in his lifetime and it should stop now. To me Michael's will is the end all in what his wishes were. He is telling everyone what he wants in that. It's not his responsibility to take care of everyone else just his children. He made sure his mother was taken care of because he loved her and wanted to do that.

 

[gerryevans]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

We DO "trust Michael!" His intentions were CLEAR, in his will, that charitable donations were to be managed by the ESTATE (and he didn't mention anyone else in that capacity in the will.)

If we "judged" people only if we "know them personally," nobody would ever VOTE in an election!

The case is inextricable with Katherine, and Mann, and Johnson. Katherine is the one who signed the contract with Mann. Have you READ it??? The contract is not legal concerning the children, but if it were, she'd have been consigning the children to a life of servitude, but there is no provision in the contract that the money goes to ANYONE but Katherine, and Mann!

In the end, people ARE their actions, as in, "WHAT does a person actually DO?" Anything else is hypocrisy. If a person says one thing, but does another, what do you believe/value? What is said, or what is DONE?

We don't know the dynamic behind the will, and what was in Michael's mind at that time, or if he felt he had better options for the care of his children. What we DO know is that he designated a percentage of his wealth to charities, and fully intended, as per the will, for the ESTATE to manage that, and certainly not his mother or anyone else in the family, or ANYONE else, other than the executors. And THAT is "about the case," right? In working with Mann in the way that she is, Katherine is violating her own son's wishes, in terms of the will, and that is entirely obvious. I think that is more than enough to judge her behavior, even leaving out the other things she has done. . . . Her behavior makes many of us suspicious about what nonsense she can possibly do NEXT, that will harm her grandchildren! She dressed them up in HTW tee-shirts for a photo opportunity for an obviously bogus charity, and that OFFENDS many of us, deeply. Ultimately, it's the children's well-being that matters. Michael's mother was well provided for in the will, but obviously that was not ENOUGH for her!

So far the executors have been courteous to Katherine, but now, I hope they go after her, and go after her HARD! She's had "a pass" as Michael's mother, but through her actions, her INTENTIONS are very obvious now.

If all we had was "first-hand experience," about anything, we would not be able to make decisions, and we would not learn from history. Oh, and I fully support the Twitter campaign about HTW, which DOES include Katherine, in that she is a board member of HTW, and Mann's "business partner."

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...de-MJ-Fan-Protest-AGAINST-Howard-Mann-Sunday-!

GREAT BIG GIANT APPLAUSE!!!

I'm with you on all points BUT the executors going after Katherine HARD. I know the executor's have been handling her with relatively kid gloves for all the aggravation she causes. But I do respect their reason for it. It's not just that she is MJ's beloved mother. It's that she's 81 years old! No one wants on their conscience something happening to this elderly woman because of the stress of situations that granted SHE IS CAUSING! I've got a couple of 80+ year old's in my family and they can be at times so know it all and stubborn, that you have to leave the room or they'll drive you to jumping out a window.

I'm hoping this new attorney gets her to see Mann/Johnson for what they are or at least make her understand she needs to back off and stay out of estate business. That may be a futile hope, but that's what I'm hoping.

 

[Autumn II]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

GREAT BIG GIANT APPLAUSE!!!

I'm with you on all points BUT the executors going after Katherine HARD. I know the executor's have been handling her with relatively kid gloves for all the aggravation she causes. But I do respect their reason for it. It's not just that she is MJ's beloved mother. It's that she's 81 years old! No one wants on their conscience something happening to this elderly woman because of the stress of situations that granted SHE IS CAUSING! I've got a couple of 80+ year old's in my family and they can be at times so know it all and stubborn, that you have to leave the room or they'll drive you to jumping out a window.

I'm hoping this new attorney gets her to see Mann/Johnson for what they are or at least make her understand she needs to back off and stay out of estate business. That may be a futile hope, but that's what I'm hoping.

I certainly see your point. Unfortunately, Katherine has put herself in a position where she is also adversarial with the CHILDREN'S interests! If Johnson/Mann win (and they will not), that would mean that they would own many, many domain names and would use Michael's image for profit. Money earned in that way does not necessarily benefit the children. Money earned by the estate, WOULD benefit the children as the executors grow the estate's wealth. If given a choice between Katherine's "benefit," or the children's, I'm with the children, all the way.

 

[Alma]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Grandma Katherine gonna go in jail ^^

You know what..? Your immaturity is getting off base, how could you be this insensitive? Whether you dislike someone or not. I don't like Katherine anymore either for obvious various reasons that are simply mindblowing to learn about, but she is still Michael's mother, and for God's sakes, she is in her '80's, and she does seem to be very brainwashed. She could use some praying for, instead of being wished ill and wanting her to be thrown in jail.. Or at least, some more decorum could be used.

0_0...

 

[LindavG]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

You know what..? Your immaturity is getting off base, how could you be this insensitive? Whether you dislike someone or not. I don't like Katherine anymore either for obvious various reasons that are simply mindblowing to learn about, but she is still Michael's mother, and for God's sakes, she is in her '80's, and she does seem to be very brainwashed. She could use some praying for, instead of being wished ill and wanting her to be thrown in jail.. Or at least, some more decorum could be used.

0_0...

I agree (except for the praying part ). I just hope Katherine will eventually understand the situation, this trial might help her in that.

 

[Ingelief]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

We DO "trust Michael!" His intentions were CLEAR, in his will, that charitable donations were to be managed by the ESTATE (and he didn't mention anyone else in that capacity in the will.)

If we "judged" people only if we "know them personally," nobody would ever VOTE in an election!

The case is inextricable with Katherine, and Mann, and Johnson. Katherine is the one who signed the contract with Mann. Have you READ it??? The contract is not legal concerning the children, but if it were, she'd have been consigning the children to a life of servitude, but there is no provision in the contract that the money goes to ANYONE but Katherine, and Mann!

In the end, people ARE their actions, as in, "WHAT does a person actually DO?" Anything else is hypocrisy. If a person says one thing, but does another, what do you believe/value? What is said, or what is DONE?

We don't know the dynamic behind the will, and what was in Michael's mind at that time, or if he felt he had better options for the care of his children. What we DO know is that he designated a percentage of his wealth to charities, and fully intended, as per the will, for the ESTATE to manage that, and certainly not his mother or anyone else in the family, or ANYONE else, other than the executors. And THAT is "about the case," right? In working with Mann in the way that she is, Katherine is violating her own son's wishes, in terms of the will, and that is entirely obvious. I think that is more than enough to judge her behavior, even leaving out the other things she has done. . . . Her behavior makes many of us suspicious about what nonsense she can possibly do NEXT, that will harm her grandchildren! She dressed them up in HTW tee-shirts for a photo opportunity for an obviously bogus charity, and that OFFENDS many of us, deeply. Ultimately, it's the children's well-being that matters. Michael's mother was well provided for in the will, but obviously that was not ENOUGH for her!

So far the executors have been courteous to Katherine, but now, I hope they go after her, and go after her HARD! She's had "a pass" as Michael's mother, but through her actions, her INTENTIONS are very obvious now.

If all we had was "first-hand experience," about anything, we would not be able to make decisions, and we would not learn from history. Oh, and I fully support the Twitter campaign about HTW, which DOES include Katherine, in that she is a board member of HTW, and Mann's "business partner."

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...de-MJ-Fan-Protest-AGAINST-Howard-Mann-Sunday-!

U actions are who you are: SO not true! I have to disagree on that bigtime. So you have a girlfriend, you snap at atime, and then because of the action your a bitch???
In psychology its said that actions can be returned, its what you did after it and that is making you a stronger better person but the action it self is not who you are.

Your mad at her for this legal battle right? than in my eyes its one action. but he let say we agree to disagree..

Personally i cant be mad or something at her because she is his mother and have his children. but thats me......

Is there not a brother who is also in this legal battle? Jermaine Randy where are they? whats there opinion??

 

[JMie]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

So you have a girlfriend, you snap at atime, and then because of the action your a bitch???

of course you are lol

 

[ginvid]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Ok, everyone. This is a topic where we all have strong opinions. Let's not resort to name calling of one another...Please! Why do we keep having to ask for this? It alleviates so many problems if we can just follow this.

 

[Diplomate]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

You know what..? Your immaturity is getting off base, how could you be this insensitive? Whether you dislike someone or not. I don't like Katherine anymore either for obvious various reasons that are simply mindblowing to learn about, but she is still Michael's mother, and for God's sakes, she is in her '80's, and she does seem to be very brainwashed. She could use some praying for, instead of being wished ill and wanting her to be thrown in jail.. Or at least, some more decorum could be used.

0_0...

Katherine knows what she's doing.

Try to steal the money of the MJ kids, for her children, who btw are adult and ALIVE.

I don't care at all about people who trash Mike, use his name or his money for their shit fake business.

Jackson or not, I don't like, never liked , people like that. They are vultures, and to use the money and name of a man who is dead, it's just one more insult for Mike.

I hope the Estate, and I'm not a fan of the Estate ( because of the joke album " MICHAEL " ), I really hope they WILL CRASH ALL PEOPLE INCLUDED IN THIS FAKE BUSINESS.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

one of the many things that bugs me and probably others is the fact in the last year or so the estate has given katherine over $9mill through money,doing up hayverhurst yet we are still seeing the children being used and still seeing katherine being involved in money making scams that are as bent as a butchers hook. to an outsider it shows a huge amount of greed and willlingness to use mjs kids and go against her sons own estate in order to get it. why is 9m$ not enough and why are her other kids not stepping upto the plate.either to support her $ wise so she doesnt have to do business with mann or to step in to stop mann from using her full stop. what does that say about her other children and the love they claim to have for katherine.they dont mind her being used because after all the money she makes will pay for their kids or it will mean they dont have to get involved and help out $ wise.what are the reasons for wanting more money where 9 mill is not enough one of the obvious reasons as to why she needs more money is looking after the others kids so of course why should jerk and randy step in..if katherine is being used by mann then that makes her other children look pathetic cause they dont care about being used and if shes not being used and is doing this by her own free will it makes her look terrible aswell. its no win for the family at all

but nothing as changed. back in the day mj paid for all the deadbeats kids.paid the bills etc. while other siblings sat back cause they knew mj would take care of things. either sitting back and not looking after their own kids or sitting back and not helping cause they knew mj was to nice to say no so he'll pay for everything anyway. no hes not here his kids have now become mj number 2 interms of the cash cow. and the siblings carry on and act in exactly the same way as they did when mj was here.becasue after all their kids still need paying for. so now mjs kids are the ones paying the bills and becasue katherine cant go and get money direct from the kids like she did with mj shes selling them to mann in order to get paid instead. and once again the siblings let it happen. those who need their kids paying for and those with money who would rather not get involved and let mjs kids pay just like they let mj pay before. its a total groundhog day. it says alot about what the other siblings feel for their own mother and what they feel for the new cash cows

 

[Diplomate]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

^^^ 9 millions? 0_o

I didn't know that. 9 millions since the 25 june 2009 ?

Man, it's less that 2 years and she already beg for more money? But what she did with this money ? Pay the flight tickets first class of her moron of Jermaine ?

It's not possible, the Estate take care of all her bills, she can's spend 9 millions in less than 2 years.

Lol, and after we must respect this kind of woman ? L.O.L

NEVER.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

yeah it was 9 mill but i think that includes everything.bills etc. its not 9 mill she got for herself

 

[missred07]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I have some questions about how Howard Mann and KJ hook up together. I know that Mann bought lots of Jackson family stuff from some other people. Can someone summarize the whole things for me or direct me to the tread discussing this? Something like the 2 storage got sold out and it contains lots of Jackson family stuffs in it. I can't remember the whole thing. It's a little off topic. Thanks in advanced.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

joe.katherine and a few others lost a lawsuit with henry vaccaro. he got the stuff in the storage locker. later he sold it on to howard mann. it seems mann contacted the family and basicall ysaid if u work with me ill give you some of the stuff back. or we can make money together by using the stuff i have. i think thats the basics

 

[missred07]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

joe.katherine and a few others lost a lawsuit with henry vaccaro. he got the stuff in the storage locker. later he sold it on to howard mann. it seems mann contacted the family and basicall ysaid if u work with me ill give you some of the stuff back. or we can make money together by using the stuff i have. i think thats the basics

One more question. How did the storage locker got related to Joe and Katherine's lawsuit with Henry Vaccaro (yes, he is that someone). Are these storage lockers part of the lawsuit? I thought the lawsuit is about they want to start company and things fallout. Vaccaro then sued Joe or something like that. Why the family storage lockers get involved with all these?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

i think joe and katherine either filed for bankrupty or said they had no assets (something like that) so vaccarro was awared the stuff from the lock ups i guess he asked for the stuff aftre becoming aware of it or there was another story that they hadnt paid the fees for the lockup so vaccarro was awarded the stuff as payment.theres been mixed reports about it over the years. im sure ivy will be able to clarift for us.

 

[Mneme]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I have some questions about how Howard Mann and KJ hook up together. I know that Mann bought lots of Jackson family stuff from some other people. Can someone summarize the whole things for me or direct me to the tread discussing this? Something like the 2 storage got sold out and it contains lots of Jackson family stuffs in it. I can't remember the whole thing. It's a little off topic. Thanks in advanced.

See here:
http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com/2011/03/katherine-jackson-howard-mann-whole.html


There the history of the memorabilien collection is shown very well.

 

[Sophielo]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Could I remind people here that whilst we may have disagreements do not resort to name calling and do not call each other naive just because their opinion is different to yours. I have had to edit out a few instances of this.

 

[euadoropao2]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

If Michael wanted to "continue with HTW," there was nothing preventing him from specifying that in his will. And, he did not. (As far as the information that we have, and under the law, the will is valid.) He was very clear about his intentions. He clearly felt morally obligated to continue to support his mother, but not to give her free-rein in dispersing his money! Katherine is obviously passing money to her other children. If Michael had wanted to support his siblings, he would have specified that in his will. He did NOT, intentionally, and that speaks volumes.


Michael never met Melissa Johnson. There is no documentation from Michael to Melissa, regarding HTW. Anything anyone has to say, about "what Michael said," is hearsay. Isn't it?

They claimed Michael wanted them to go on with the charity and that they just wanted to respect his wishes. However, they forget to add that Michael also wanted other things which they do not respect. Double criteria?
When it suits them, they claim they just want to respect his wishes. When it does not suit them, they go against his wishes.

"We just want to respect his wishes [because it is convenient for us; if it wasn't, we'd go against them within a blink of an eye]."

The same people claiming to want to respect their wishes, are the same people going against most of them. If it benefits them, they'll claim they just want to fulfill his wishes. If it doesn't, they'll go against them in 2 seconds.

Hipocrisy at its best, something the Jacksons NEVER fail to deliver.

 

[loveforever]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I don't need to know Michael personally to understand Michael Jackson would never ever support a "charity" which spent most of people's donation to claim his trademark and likeness. The Jacksons used the excuse "this is Michael wanted, we want to respect his wishes", it's the lowest low, a insulting to Michael; and further proved they had no shame and could say any lies to benefit themselves.

 

[ilmjj]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I don't need to know Michael personally to understand Michael Jackson would never ever support a "charity" which spent most of people's donation to claim his trademark and likeness. The Jacksons used the excuse "this is Michael wanted, we want to respect his wishes", it's the lowest low, a insulting to Michael; and further proved they had no shame and could say any lies to benefit themselves.

Thank you for this!:clapping:
My other question is if the Jackson's were able to do what Mann is hoping would they share the money they make with Michael's children?
One of the comments on yahoo.com said the Jackson's were like a pack of dogs fighting over the same bone!

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

They claimed Michael wanted them to go on with the charity and that they just wanted to respect his wishes.

The family cracks me up, they had no idea what Michael's wishes were. LOL! At one point, they didn't even know whether or not he had a Will.

If supporting Melissa Johnson's FAKE charity was one of Michael's wishes, he would have included those wishes in his Last Will & Testament.

I mean, he had enough presence of mind to earmark 20% of his Estate to charity, but he NEVER mentions Melissa Johnson nor her fake charity. That speaks volumes to me!

 

[mynameiscande1]

I will be posting an update later on but for the time being I'll post something that has been forwarded to me.

After the events of last week a group of fans is starting a twitter event against Howard Mann. The below is the description they forwarded to me.

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#MJfansAGAINSTmann Twitter Event



Tomorrow, Sunday April 17th 2011 at 3PM Eastern, Michael Jackson fans from all corners of the world will converge on Twitter to send out a powerful message to Howard Mann & his partners.



WE WILL NOT STAND QUIETLY ON THE SIDE AND WATCH YOU ATTACK AND SOIL MICHAEL JACKSON’S LEGACY.



We, as a community, want to unite our voices as one in the spirit of Michael Jackson, ahead of the April 19th trial, and let the world know we, #MJfansAGAINSTmann



The event starts at Noon Pacific. 3PM New York. 4PM Sao Paulo. 8PM London. 9PM Paris. 11PM Russia . 3AM Singapore. 4AM Tokyo.



Important information:

No RETWEET. You are free to copy and paste someone else’s tweet and resend it. But ABSOLUTELY NO RETWEET.

Also, do not use the hashtag more than once in the same tweet as Twitter view this as spam.



Please join us on Twitter for this event !!!

#MJfansAGAINSTmann

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Did anybody take part in this.

How did it go?

Can someone post a link.

I do not have a twitter account so cannot access this.

 

[Sophielo]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Michael made his will water toght and outlined exactly what he wanted from it, even the ages of when his children are allowed to obtain control of the Estate. The family need to face facts-they were left out, pure and simple.

 

[ivy]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Did anybody take part in this.

How did it go?

Can someone post a link.

I do not have a twitter account so cannot access this.

see this thread : http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...de-MJ-Fan-Protest-AGAINST-Howard-Mann-Sunday-!

 

[maral]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Grandma Katherine gonna go in jail ^^

i hope not. i don't like what she's doing but come on.

 

[maral]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I can't see any possibility that Mann/Katherine/Johnson will win.The losers are already Michael's children, because the money used to fund this lawsuit by the estate, comes FROM the estate. In other words, it's the children's money that is being used as this drags through the courts. The estate MUST address this, and they are doing so. It's just sad that this is happening. I can see no more excuses for Katherine's behavior. No more, at all.

it is upsetting that the estate's time and MONEY is being spent this way.

We DO "trust Michael!" His intentions were CLEAR, in his will, that charitable donations were to be managed by the ESTATE (and he didn't mention anyone else in that capacity in the will.)

If we "judged" people only if we "know them personally," nobody would ever VOTE in an election!

The case is inextricable with Katherine, and Mann, and Johnson. Katherine is the one who signed the contract with Mann. Have you READ it??? The contract is not legal concerning the children, but if it were, she'd have been consigning the children to a life of servitude, but there is no provision in the contract that the money goes to ANYONE but Katherine, and Mann!

In the end, people ARE their actions, as in, "WHAT does a person actually DO?" Anything else is hypocrisy. If a person says one thing, but does another, what do you believe/value? What is said, or what is DONE?

We don't know the dynamic behind the will, and what was in Michael's mind at that time, or if he felt he had better options for the care of his children. What we DO know is that he designated a percentage of his wealth to charities, and fully intended, as per the will, for the ESTATE to manage that, and certainly not his mother or anyone else in the family, or ANYONE else, other than the executors. And THAT is "about the case," right? In working with Mann in the way that she is, Katherine is violating her own son's wishes, in terms of the will, and that is entirely obvious. I think that is more than enough to judge her behavior, even leaving out the other things she has done. . . . Her behavior makes many of us suspicious about what nonsense she can possibly do NEXT, that will harm her grandchildren! She dressed them up in HTW tee-shirts for a photo opportunity for an obviously bogus charity, and that OFFENDS many of us, deeply. Ultimately, it's the children's well-being that matters. Michael's mother was well provided for in the will, but obviously that was not ENOUGH for her!

So far the executors have been courteous to Katherine, but now, I hope they go after her, and go after her HARD! She's had "a pass" as Michael's mother, but through her actions, her INTENTIONS are very obvious now.

If all we had was "first-hand experience," about anything, we would not be able to make decisions, and we would not learn from history. Oh, and I fully support the Twitter campaign about HTW, which DOES include Katherine, in that she is a board member of HTW, and Mann's "business partner."

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...de-MJ-Fan-Protest-AGAINST-Howard-Mann-Sunday-!

WELL SAID!

 

[maral]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

one of the many things that bugs me and probably others is the fact in the last year or so the estate has given katherine over $9mill through money,doing up hayverhurst yet we are still seeing the children being used and still seeing katherine being involved in money making scams that are as bent as a butchers hook. to an outsider it shows a huge amount of greed and willlingness to use mjs kids and go against her sons own estate in order to get it. why is 9m$ not enough and why are her other kids not stepping upto the plate.either to support her $ wise so she doesnt have to do business with mann or to step in to stop mann from using her full stop. what does that say about her other children and the love they claim to have for katherine.they dont mind her being used because after all the money she makes will pay for their kids or it will mean they dont have to get involved and help out $ wise.what are the reasons for wanting more money where 9 mill is not enough one of the obvious reasons as to why she needs more money is looking after the others kids so of course why should jerk and randy step in..if katherine is being used by mann then that makes her other children look pathetic cause they dont care about being used and if shes not being used and is doing this by her own free will it makes her look terrible aswell. its no win for the family at all

but nothing as changed. back in the day mj paid for all the deadbeats kids.paid the bills etc. while other siblings sat back cause they knew mj would take care of things. either sitting back and not looking after their own kids or sitting back and not helping cause they knew mj was to nice to say no so he'll pay for everything anyway. no hes not here his kids have now become mj number 2 interms of the cash cow. and the siblings carry on and act in exactly the same way as they did when mj was here.becasue after all their kids still need paying for. so now mjs kids are the ones paying the bills and becasue katherine cant go and get money direct from the kids like she did with mj shes selling them to mann in order to get paid instead. and once again the siblings let it happen. those who need their kids paying for and those with money who would rather not get involved and let mjs kids pay just like they let mj pay before. its a total groundhog day. it says alot about what the other siblings feel for their own mother and what they feel for the new cash cows

some fans i've talked to claim she and the children hasn't got a dime by the estate. i can't believe that but who knows

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Thank you for this!:clapping:
My other question is if the Jackson's were able to do what Mann is hoping would they share the money they make with Michael's children?
One of the comments on yahoo.com said the Jackson's were like a pack of dogs fighting over the same bone!

i doubt the mj3 would get anything.in the deal with mann that katherine signed then into they can be used to promote his ventures but it says nothing about them getting paid.these scams are to make money to pay for the rest of the family.the kids are just being used to make that money as the family cant directly get at mjs money anymore

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

some fans i've talked to claim she and the children hasn't got a dime by the estate. i can't believe that but who knows

and what proof they have,it is all well documented and submitted in court so tell them to educate them self rather then reading jackson tweets which changes with wind.