MJ is not an addict, and it wasn't an accidental overdose

Buprenex does the same as demerol, the only difference is you cannot become an addict on Buprenex. Buprenex Synthetic Demerol. 2 vials I would feel safe. Have it in case of accident.

that's what MJ really say :thinking: :eek:

Yes, clearly, he did not want to be an addict and watched out on what he took.
 
Wow this is the first time I've seen this note and I think it should be helpful for the prosecution in establishing that Mike was not an addict.
All these lies popping up everywhere are exhausting, it's like the whole world is against him and it's really maddening. Can't they SEE the truth!!!????
 
^^^^Yeah what is that? Please, do tell.
 
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Last pages of the autopsy go read the tox results not what they tested for but what they found and where they found it
 
Last pages of the autopsy go read the tox results not what they tested for but what they found and where they found it

ok so I have ripped that report apart page by page I have been dissecting it since it came out....please tell me what you are talking about...what is the drug that he was given that is not being talked about..thank you.
 
.If we look at the tox report that the cornonor fill out....we can see that laprazam was found in Michael...the laprozam was found where?.....It was found in Michael's heart blood AND his FEMAL blood.....the femal blood is his leg blood..the ivy was in Michael's leg....The proprofol was administered to Michael BEFORE the Laprazam. The laprazam was STILL present in his femal.(leg).blood.. The Propfol had already posioned Michael system ...WHY would Murray give Michael...( and that's what he did)... Laprazam AFTER Micheal was already asleep. The report shows that Michael was ALREADY gone...because his heart NEVER curculated the Laprazam So when the report says proprolol intoxicaion...with benzo attribute...they are talking about the Lazprozam or (however you say it). LaproZam hinders resperation....so in Michael's case....it was the propofol...poisoning him....he was given the stuff in a bolus...the tox report shows large quantity as we know. So you may ask yourself WHY is she saying this. Because ....this can be proven it is right here in front of our faces....which means that the prosecutor knows this..which means that Murray IS NOT walking away from this....We may never be able to prove that Michael was murdered...and God knows we have enough evidence to ..just not on paper...but anyway..he WILL get atleast 4 years for IM...and as we all know that is NOT nearly enough ...but I just wanted to share with you this. Some may of already known this.but for those who did,'t (myself) I hope this helps a little. And as far as Murrays defense that Michael gave it to himself we all ready know that bullshit BUT this evidence here proves he didn't So this is gonna be an open and shut case for IM So why give a guy who is already alseep laprozam???,.Because 1 either he didn't now Michael was already gone and he jsut gave it to him to keep him asleep...OR he gave it to him intentionally because he knew that it would kill Michael and slow down and eventually stop his breathing....and that is what it did because it was NEVER circulated through Michael's heart blood.it was a large about and still stayed in his leg blood also If Michael was still alive when he gave it to him it would of circulated through his heart blood and we would of never found it in his leg still.

thats were the bottle o fpropfol with the rip instead of the needle whole comes into play (the one that was hidden) the Bolus of propofol ...with the laprozam. DO I feel feel little more releaved knowing this,,,yes...It will NOT bring Michael back.ever...for me it is the knowing..WHY and how because as much as this has been discussed.my mind could not put it together. I still think Murray Murdered Michael....the culprits were the profol and the laprazam.....and Murry knows this too. Why would you give abolus of propofol and then a dose of lazapam????....He wanted to make sure Michael NEVER woke up


credit to Justthefacts....and Dr?..(sorry she asked me not to use her name)
 
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also with the iv being in his leg the femorall vein NOT the femorall artery....takes blood to the heart were as the artery takes blood away from the heart...so the propofol and the lazapam being taken to the heart....... in my heart this.. is what took Michael's life.


after discussing with Justthefacts and talking to my own friend who infact in a doc and was about 95% sure this is what happened........... I am convinced myself that this is what happened.


everyone else is still entitled to his or her own opinion...:)..
 
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I can't you anymore rep points :(, but thanks for taking the time to explain. I believe Beachlover (I miss him) was saying something similar. When I have the time to look at it more carefully I will.

Thanks!
 
.If we look at the tox report that the cornonor fill out....we can see that laprazam was found in Michael...the laprozam was found where?.....It was found in Michael's heart blood AND his FEMAL blood.....the femal blood is his leg blood..the ivy was in Michael's leg....The proprofol was administered to Michael BEFORE the Laprazam. The laprazam was STILL present in his femal.(leg).blood.. The Propfol had already posioned Michael system ...WHY would Murray give Michael...( and that's what he did)... Laprazam AFTER Micheal was already asleep. The report shows that Michael was ALREADY gone...because his heart NEVER curculated the Laprazam So when the report says proprolol intoxicaion...with benzo attribute...they are talking about the Lazprozam or (however you say it). LaproZam hinders resperation....so in Michael's case....it was the propofol...poisoning him....he was given the stuff in a bolus...the tox report shows large quantity as we know. So you may ask yourself WHY is she saying this. Because ....this can be proven it is right here in front of our faces....which means that the prosecutor knows this..which means that Murray IS NOT walking away from this....We may never be able to prove that Michael was murdered...and God knows we have enough evidence to ..just not on paper...but anyway..he WILL get atleast 4 years for IM...and as we all know that is NOT nearly enough ...but I just wanted to share with you this. Some may of already known this.but for those who did,'t (myself) I hope this helps a little. And as far as Murrays defense that Michael gave it to himself we all ready know that bullshit BUT this evidence here proves he didn't So this is gonna be an open and shut case for IM So why give a guy who is already alseep laprozam???,.Because 1 either he didn't now Michael was already gone and he jsut gave it to him to keep him asleep...OR he gave it to him intentionally because he knew that it would kill Michael and slow down and eventually stop his breathing....and that is what it did because it was NEVER circulated through Michael's heart blood.it was a large about and still stayed in his leg blood also If Michael was still alive when he gave it to him it would of circulated through his heart blood and we would of never found it in his leg still.

thats were the bottle o fpropfol with the rip instead of the needle whole comes into play (the one that was hidden) the Bolus of propofol ...with the laprozam. DO I feel feel little more releaved knowing this,,,yes...It will NOT bring Michael back.ever...for me it is the knowing..WHY and how because as much as this has been discussed.my mind could not put it together. I still think Murray Murdered Michael....the culprits were the profol and the laprazam.....and Murry knows this too. Why would you give abolus of propofol and then a dose of lazapam????....He wanted to make sure Michael NEVER woke up


credit to Justthefacts....and Dr?..(sorry she asked me not to use her name)
God Bless You, xthunderx2,
and keep you STRONG.
Michael Jackson fans need your clear analyses . :angel:
Thank you.
 
God Bless You, xthunderx2,
and keep you STRONG.
Michael Jackson fans need your clear analysis. :angel:

thank you ...but..JUSTTHEFACTS deserves credit too...he/she has a great eye for detail as well...:).....She/he is very much needed here as well....
 
I hope this is confirmed....

I hope so to. Unless we have missed something....and the doc I spoke to has missed something...(I hope not).....we will have to wait and see for when the trial begins..
 
There would be no reason to shoot him with Laprozam if Michael was already sleep.

And this also affects the timeline when he said he inject propofol and left for 2 minutes and came back to find michael not breathing. This would also affect what he said about michael "begging" for propofol because he STILL couldn't sleep.
 
I just spoke to a licensed physician in residency training for anesthesiology.

He said Lorazepam was detected in heart and venous blood because it would be present in blood in all parts of the body following IV administration. It wasn't detected elsewhere because they didn't test other samples for lorazepam, because they had no reason to do so.

That's all he said after reading the autopsy report...
 
I just spoke to a licensed physician in residency training for anesthesiology.

He said Lorazepam was detected in heart and venous blood because it would be present in blood in all parts of the body following IV administration. It wasn't detected elsewhere because they didn't test other samples for lorazepam, because they had no reason to do so.

That's all he said after reading the autopsy report...


If you read the entire tox report they did test for Lorazepam and did not find it.
 
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If you read the entire tox report they did test for Lorazepam and did not find it.

So did they test for lorazepam everywhere? instead of just those two places?

i dont know if that guy read the entire autopsy report, and i really dont think he did. it was too fast.
 
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I just spoke to a licensed physician in residency training for anesthesiology.

He said Lorazepam was detected in heart and venous blood because it would be present in blood in all parts of the body following IV administration. It wasn't detected elsewhere because they didn't test other samples for lorazepam, because they had no reason to do so.

That's all he said after reading the autopsy report...


And if that were true there would have been no need to test for the other drugs that played no part in his death like ephedrine. And remember Lorazepam was a factor in his death not the main factor but a contributing factor. IMO they would have to test for it just to confirm Murray's story and timeline
 
.If we look at the tox report that the cornonor fill out....we can see that laprazam was found in Michael...the laprozam was found where?.....It was found in Michael's heart blood AND his FEMAL blood.....the femal blood is his leg blood..the ivy was in Michael's leg....The proprofol was administered to Michael BEFORE the Laprazam. The laprazam was STILL present in his femal.(leg).blood.. The Propfol had already posioned Michael system ...WHY would Murray give Michael...( and that's what he did)... Laprazam AFTER Micheal was already asleep. The report shows that Michael was ALREADY gone...because his heart NEVER curculated the Laprazam So when the report says proprolol intoxicaion...with benzo attribute...they are talking about the Lazprozam or (however you say it). LaproZam hinders resperation....so in Michael's case....it was the propofol...poisoning him....he was given the stuff in a bolus...the tox report shows large quantity as we know.

and that is what it did because it was NEVER circulated through Michael's heart blood.it was a large about and still stayed in his leg blood also If Michael was still alive when he gave it to him it would of circulated through his heart blood and we would of never found it in his leg still.

a fourth year med student sent me back a small report about this lorazepam and propofol question. bolded parts are what he bolded himself. although, i still have some questions about this that is confusing me and I am waiting for him to contact me again. Here is what he wrote:

first of

Lorazepam : takes 72 hours to get completely out of your system

midazolam: is a short acting benzo it takes 10 hours and its out of your system

Murray gave Michael Valium which is normal - it didn't work, so he gave him 2mg of Lorazepam ( which is the amount given to anxious or insomniac patients) its side effect is respiratory depression if given in high doses.

He then gives him Midazolom 2mg (thats 4 mg now) but thats not a big problem because its short acting

Whats a problem and strange is that he gave him another 2mg of Lorazepam, thats 4mg, thats a lot for one person in 3 hours

now here's the thing.... Lorazepam in that amount causes 'Sleep Apnea', sleep apnea causes deprivation of quality sleep.

so what did Murray do? - He gave Michael Propofol, the ultimate sedation drug and that's when he stopped breathing, he went into respiratory failure.

Murray is lying, there is no way he gave Propofol first, if he did Michael would have passed out in an instant, he wouldn't have had any sleeping problems.

Of course the Benzodiazapines were still in Micheal's system, like i said they need 60-72 hrs to be completely out, so its obvious they were still there in his heart, leg, everywhere in his system.

propofol or midazolam are given for patients requiring short-term (48-72 hrs) ventilation, while Lorazepam is given for longer period, thats why Even if it is true that lorazepam was givien after Propofol thats normal cause Murray noticed that the propofol (short term wasnt working), so he gave him the long term (lorazepam)

Either way... it stands like this

Propofol given first - didn't work cause its used for short term (Michael was probably still alive) so - Lorazepam (long term) was givien - both caused respiratory failure etc...

Lorazepam was given first - 4mg in 3 hours didn't work (side effect) so - Propofol was added -Caused respiratory failure

My opinion - Propofol was given first

My question to him was
We know that propofol was in his eyes and his stomach. With the scenario above, could he have still been alive with that much in him then??

Like i said from my medical point of view i think Propofol was given first to Michael and it didnt work so he gave him a Long term benzo which was the Lorazepam,

so Propofol then Lorazepam like you think.

Michael having Propofol in his eyes and stomach has nothing to with him being alive or not, the drug spreads throughout the system, it doesn't stay in one place.

What made him go in respiratory failure is the combination in great amounts of the Propofol and Lorazepam
 
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Yes, and I asked him why he thinks propofol was given first more than lorazepam being given first, because both are possible.

He said because Propofol is shorter acting than Lorazepam, even though it puts you out straight away, it doesn't have a prolonged affect like Lorazepam which lasts way longer.

So I'm thinking that Murray was hoping to OD him with the full bottle of propofol and wait till it all disappeared into his body to leave no trace. But when the propofol alone didn't work, he added lorazepam.

Anyways, he said if we need anything else, ask him. So if anyone has any questions, you can write it on this thread and I'll ask him.
 
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Kasume, could you pleaseplease ask your friend to look up the databanks that I am sure he has access to.
At what temperature does Lorazepam disintegrate? At what temperature does Propofol disintegrate? I know there have been issues in patents trying to find a coating for benzo pills for example that can withstand the body's heat sufficiently until it's "time". That could be an interesting factor. Now I'm fully aware what was supposed to have been given through IV, but I' still interested in finding out at what temperature each Benzo and Propofol starts to disintegrate.
 
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