MJ Seeks to Retain Neverland ~~All discussions in this thread only~~

[mjstheone]

Re: Neverland MAY be auctioned on March 19, 2008 [keep all discussions here, please]

im sure that if it is auctioned off, the jackson family will bid on it on behalf of michael and he will just pay them back later. I can't see how michael would be in this much financial debt tho, so I dont believe any of that foxnews crap.

Yeah IF neverland ends up on the auction block, there are ways to recover the property. That is if he wants to keep it.

 

[Datsymay]

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I swear to god some fans do more of tainting that place than the media could ever do.

 

[Love.him]

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Exactly If Michael decided to sell it, fine. I think it's the idea of him being forced to give it up that's bothering fans.

yeah but sell it, not let it get it foreclosed on. If Michael didn't want it, he should've sold it back in 2005

 

[Andrew Ryan]

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I disagree. I think Neverland still had its "greatness". After 1993, there were children's world confernce held there, inner city children and churches and organizations still went to Neverland. Even the 2003, many people still wanted to go. Like I have always said, you can not believe what many in the media tell you about the overall public. Look at Thriller 25. Some said that was a bad idea (and this not a new cd by Michael really. this is a 25 year old cd that has been remixed). Our media is full of mess and many people know it and the overall public is not falling for it no more.

You choose to ignore the fact that Neverland has no animals anymore, the rides are no longer functioning and it has no employees anymore, so tell me why would MJ want to waste his money on a piece of land that he hasn't used since 2005? Neverland is no more......If MJ still lived there and the place was in good shapes, then yeah...I wouldn't believe a word of this report, however he is in LA now and Neverland is a deserted!

 

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

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Whatever happens I just hope Mike is OK with it.

BUT I don't see why he didn't sell it himself rather than loosing it on an auction.

And why on earth will he loose the furniture and personal stuff inside neverland??

Maybe it is because he has no intentions of selling nor loosing his property. You don't sell something you want.

 

[troubleman84]

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Exactly If Michael decided to sell it, fine. I think it's the idea of him being forced to give it up that's bothering fans.

That's pretty much the assumption that he's "being forced". The strangest thing is I thought he'd remain overseas for the remainder of his life so I was kinda surprised he actually returned. People treated Michael like a dog especially after the second allegations of misconduct. So I think when he returned, some people thought he'd return to Neverland but he has remained in Vegas.

 

[Datsymay]

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That's pretty much the assumption that he's "being forced". The strangest thing is I thought he'd remain overseas for the remainder of his life so I was kinda surprised he actually returned. People treated Michael like a dog especially after the second allegations of misconduct. So I think when he returned, some people thought he'd return to Neverland but he has remained in Vegas.

I was glad when MJ returned. Anybody else who emigrate to another country are called immigrants, but MJ was in exhile. As if he was a fugitive running from the law. I was very glad when he returned. That shut them up. They didn't even make the news about it considering that they been telling the world that he was in exhile.

 

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

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Come on March 19th!

I think that Michael has already taken care of this matter. But you know the media will not tell that to us. In fact, they will completely ignore it when they see that Mike still owns his ranch. Or they will claim that some rich friend stepped in and paid the debt for him. Whatever.

 

[angelofhope]

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I just hope this all works out in Michael's favour.I sure it will.

 

[Datsymay]

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Come on March 19th!

I think that Michael has already taken care of this matter. But you know the media will not tell that to us. In fact, they will completely ignore it when they see that Mike still owns his ranch. Or they will claim that some rich friend stepped in and paid the debt for him. Whatever.

Roger had the media crawling all over Encino several years ago when he claimed that Encino was going to be repessessed. I hear Kathrine couldn't get in or our of her house cause the media turned up in full to record this event. They left disappointed. I bet they will be in SB in large numbers outsied the court house on 19th.

 

[mj4life]

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i really don't know how i feel about this.
on the one hand maybe it will benefit Mike because it's so filled with bad memories and negative vibes and if it's auctioned off maybe it will be a step in a more positive direction.
on the other hand i really don't want him to lose it because it has been such a huge part of his life. i would have thought that he might have wanted to give it to his kids once they got older or something like that. i'm also reminded of what he said in his home movies how he would never ever sell neverland and how it represented the totality of who he is. so it's pretty sad if he's forced to auction it off.
for some reason i get the feeling from a lot of fans that if he loses it he's also losing a part of himself and his innocence. i just hope he's completely content with the outcome of all of this. i can't imagine that such a succesful person like Mike wouldn't even have 24 million to keep it if he really wants to.

 

[Kinga]

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So I look for this situation to be resolved in the next few weeks. And when Michael is finished with his refinancing and still owns Neverland by the middle of March and we don't see the media out there with cameras filming the auction of Neverland and celebrating the news that Michael has finally lost Neverland, then you can bet that this matter has been resolved.

My prediction is that come middle of March, Michael will still be owner of Neverland, and people like RF will be writing some stupid article about how Ron Burkle loaned Michael the money to pay his debt, but he still owes Fortress $350 mil, blah, blah, blah and he still has no place to live and no money and don't forget the Prince is suing him in London, and by the way, he married Grace this weekend, blah, blah, blah, to be continued! You know how it goes!

:yes: :yes: :yes:

Lol, oh lord!
Roger Friedman is one relentless, silly mofo.
For those of you suffering from short-term memory loss, this SAME story was reported by the associated press in 2005, 2006, and 2007.
Same sh!t different year.
Neverland isn't going anywhere. Expect this rumor to keep being regurgitated by the media until it actually does get sold, or until the day Michael stops breathing.
Whichever comes first.


Hollaback.

Agreed!!! :yes: :yes:

thank you ATLF and kingofpop2424. Really puts things into perspective. MJ's been through much worse situations than this and came out the true champion. I seriously doubt he won't this time. Besides how many times have we heard this garbage over the past ten years. It's so many I've lost count.

The only reason I think this has come up is becasue things according to the media for going a little too good for MJ, and as someone stated earlier is an attempt to destract us from what's important. This is nothing but a desperate attempt from the powers that be to bring MJ to his knees. They can't stand the fact that he's so well loved and successful and powerful all at the same time STILL after everything that he's been through. I take this as if they are pulling at straws as their last attempt to try and do what they know how. I ain't sweatin this and by the past few weeks by seeing MJ in good spirits and movin on with his music career, he ain't losin sleep over this. He knows how to handle himself very well. The media will fail miserably as they always has because

God is on Michael's side and always has been. I have complete faith that this matter will be resolved in a timely manner. And the media will look like fools once again. Can I get an Amen someone?!

Christian

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

Right......*rolls eyes*
So Michael should sell his HOME because of what some people THINK went on there?
Oh yeah, that makes alot of sense. LOL!
Look, if MJ really has moved on, he would've already sold the damn thing. So it's pretty obvious he has plans to return to it one of these days.


Hollaback.

My thoughts exactly!!!

My thoughts: I have always kept this image of Neverland being a sorta another world, where sun is always shining, flowers are like rainbows, music is played everywhere and where you can just forget everything else and be yourself, enjoy your time... Hold on.. that is exactly what Neverland was! Neverland was always a place for Michael where he was able to be himself, be just a normal human being without anyone harassing him. It was his safety place. I can't even imagine how he must have felt when he realised his home was destroyed and he can't live there anymore. His own home was taken away from him. And to be honest, that makes me sad. I know it's just a property and I believe your home is where your heart is. But just a thought of someone else owning the place, someone else walking on that property... shivers me at the moment and if that is what's going to happen, it might take some for me to accept the fact.

However it's Michael's decision to make. If he feels he wants to get rid of it, then I might shed a couple of tears.. But I'll fully respect his decision. I also believe one bad thing will bring out 2 good things, hopefully you get what I mean.

But like I already said, I believe your home is where you heart is and what makes Michael happy and smile, makes me happy and smile too.

God never gives you more than what you can handle.

I feel the exact same way Reeta!!! :smile: :wink:

Has Raymone said anything yet?

Good question….

 

[wendijane]

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god bless you michael whatever the situation/outcome ...:hug:

 

[Cinnamon234]

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I don't get why some people are acting like this is some type of life or death situation for them. How is this affecting anyone's life here personally? It's silly to get worked up over this. Anyway, Michael has already said in that Geraldo interview he did a few years ago that he has no plans to ever live there again, I believe the exact quote was "It's a house, not a home for me now" or something along those lines, so if he wants to keep it then he'll pay up (that is if he isn't broke like some claim) , if not then that's his decision, but I aint stressing over it.

 

[troubleman84]

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I don't get why some people are acting like this is some type of life or death situation for them. How is this affecting anyone's life here personally? It's silly to get worked up over this. Anyway, Michael has already said in that Geraldo interview he did a few years ago that he has no plans to ever live there again, I believe the exact quote was "It's a house, not a home for me now" or something along those lines, so if he wants to keep it then he'll pay up (that is if he isn't broke like some claim) , if not then that's his decision, but I aint stressing over it.

Real talk.

 

[Momma Shannon]

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Wow, this has become a giant tabloid thread :lol:

Spectulation everywhere.

 

[TeharaMJ]

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lol I know...I think all of us must have been a little too eager for some news..hot off the Thriller 25 adrenalin rush...we've really gone all out with this malarky!

 

[knight56]

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People and fans dont want to believe this will happens until it does.

 

[Linda74]

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I just hope for the best. I will wait until I hear an official statement from Raymone or something. But whatever happens I have to say how much I despise people like RF, sometimes I just want to say get a life!

 

[Poefiend]

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Hes just baiting everyone to see who will take the hook? ^

 

[Agent Black]

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Its a pity. I think i will never have the chance to visit neverland. It is (or was ...) on of my biggest dresm. I don't know and cant imagine what to do when there is no NL.

 

[emmah24]

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Michael is his own man, he'll make his decision when he's good and ready.

I admit to being slightly saddened by the fact that Neverland may be sold. It was an extension of Michaels personality, his creation, a place of solitude and calm within the chaos that often comes with his life. But lets face facts, that place he called home was violated and used against him with the trial. He may feel differently about it now. Either way,its Michaels call, lets just respect whatever decision he makes.

 

[TomV87]

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Mods, How Come This Thread Is Allowed To Stay Open, Its About Mj Finances??????

 

[Conspiracy]

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Neverland is michael jackson.

 

[CherubimII]

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Concerning Neverland,
Michael Jackson has the right to make any decisions he wants about what he will do with his property investments and to privately make any arrangements he wants concerning his financial affairs.:artist:

Question: With this lastest lost of Neverland,
how many times, now, in total, has
Michael Jackson lost Neverland ? :lol:

 

[mjalwaysonmymind]

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Mods, How Come This Thread Is Allowed To Stay Open, Its About Mj Finances??????

uh ... never mind

 

[MJJC Moderator]

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Mods, How Come This Thread Is Allowed To Stay Open, Its About Mj Finances??????

Please see Enrico's post:

As per MJJC admins' decision I'm opening a new thread regarding Neverland possibly being auctioned within few week. I know that some members may disagree on this news 'cause court papers were obtained by FoxNews but they are indeed official court papers and the news now has being made public also by AP Press, Reuters and other news agencies.
I'd suggest members who don't agree with this thread to not even comment on this news.

That said I personally hope Mr. Jackson's camp will find a solution to this matter.

Thanks.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/26/jackson.ranch.ap/index.html

Jackson ranch may go to the highest bidder

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch will be put up for sale at a public auction next month unless the pop star pays the more than $24 million he still owes on the property, according to a Tuesday court filing.

Financial Title Co. filed the notice of trustee's sale with Santa Barbara County Superior Court, setting the auction date for March 19.
A spokeswoman for Jackson did not immediately return a call for comment.
Julie Wagner, a manager at the San Francisco-based title company, confirmed that Jackson's property was set for auction.

Court documents obtained by Fox News warn Jackson that he has until the date of the auction to take action to keep his lavish Los Olivos estate.


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[wannabestartinsomthin21]

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What's sad to me really is, these bastards drove Michael from Neverland and, even though before all of that crap happened he didn't spend a lot of time there, it was known as his home and main place of residence, and now, he doesn't really have a home and is just sort of wandering.

I know he can build another home. Its just the thought of it being taken from him that's upsetting. If he sold it, that would be one thing, but having it taken really sucks. I don't think Michael considers it his home anymore, but whether he wants to rid himself of it entirely is another question and I'm not so sure the answer is yes on that one.

 

[PatrickS77]

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Anyway, Michael has already said in that Geraldo interview he did a few years ago that he has no plans to ever live there again, I believe the exact quote was "It's a house, not a home for me now" or something along those lines, so if he wants to keep it then he'll pay up (that is if he isn't broke like some claim) , if not then that's his decision, but I aint stressing over it.

He said that on Ed Bradley's 60 minutes... a couple of days after the raid and the arrest! When he did the Geraldo interview he already was back at Neverland! So I wouldn't put too much stock into what he said right after the arrest!

He also said in '95 that he doesn't care about living in the states anymore and that he wants to leave! He didn't do so!

 

[CherubimII]

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Michael Jackson seeks to keep Neverland Ranch

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/27/jackson.foreclosure/index.html?section=cnn_latest

• Story Highlights
• A public auction has been set for March 19, according to court documents
• Jackson owes $24.5 million on the property
• Jackson insider: "The financing is all being worked out"
• The singer has not lived at Neverland Ranch since June 2005

(CNN) -- Pop star Michael Jackson will avoid foreclosure on his Neverland Ranch property with a new loan, a Jackson insider told CNN Wednesday.
Documents show that Neverland Ranch in Los Olivos, California, is scheduled for a public auction on March 19 at Santa Barbara's downtown courthouse.
But the Jackson source said that won't happen.
"Michael Jackson's ranch is not going to be auctioned off at the courthouse," the Jackson insider said. "The financing is all being worked out."
"There are plenty of lenders willing to work with him. The real estate market is very bad right now and Jackson is being affected just like many other Americans," the source said.

The Santa Barbara County Recorder's Web site lists a "notice of trustees sale" by Jackson and his property lenders, Financial Title Company, filed Monday.

In California, title companies typically represent lenders in foreclosure cases.
A notice of trustees sale cannot be posted earlier than 90 days after a notice of default is filed. That notice is not filed unless a loan is in substantial default, sometimes six months or more past due.

A real estate source inside Santa Barbara County said the trustees filing is only the first step in a long process that could drag on for months.
The real estate source said other options are available to Jackson, including selling the ranch directly to another party or making a payment on his $24.5 million Neverland debt that would satisfy the trustee.

The recorder's Web site also reveals there was a release of lien on Jackson on February 4, showing he paid off all or part of delinquent taxes to the state of California.

"It seems unlikely that someone would pay off back taxes, only to let the ranch go up for auction a few weeks later," said the real estate source.
Jackson has not lived at Neverland since June 2005, after a Santa Barbara County jury found him not guilty of child molestation charges.