Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @266* Sony wants subpoena for footage quashed

[Galactus123]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals To Show Warning Signs

How will the rehearsals show that he was frail?

I've seen them several times, and my eyes look at a skinny fifty-year old full of energy who was rehearsing for his biggest concerts ever. I don't see a frail man sick of any bad diseases.

This Is It movie didn't show all rehearsal footage. There is over 100 hours of footage. And most of the time they didn't show full performances. In This Is It movie I don't see a frail man. I see te king rehearsing.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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The defence can only show footage from the 23 and 24th footage.ie earth song thriller way u make me feel etc.we have all seen that footage in the film. So any other footage is hardly gonna be much diff

 

[Diplomate]

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Footage from the 2 last day of rehearsals, 23 and 24 june are very good according to the dancers and musicians of TII. In fact everybody who was working these 2 last days said publicly that Mike was good these days.

So wait and see.

 

[smoothlugar]

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Well i doubt they can prove it the footage shows diff.u dont go from shaking and disorientated one minute to looking great in the nxt song. and last time the likes of faye talked she said she hadnt been subed.. Aslong as the crim case comes first which at present it will it doesnt really matter.

Maybe the "apparent" contradiction is not so, as Michael Amir testified:

DW: What was his general spirit or demeanor?
MAW: He had a great spirit that evening. He was punctual. Wanted to make sure he got there on time. Sometimes Michael asked for a heater, saying he was cold.

DW: (So?) he was in great spirits that night. Did you observe the rehearsal?
MAW: It was him, yes, dancing and singing. I thought it was extraordinary, personally. I thought personally, it was great

PS:Thanks, Carmen (from MJHideout) for this reminder.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Well tbh i dont think thats what the family are implying in their lawsuit.they make it out that mj was hypothermic and disorentated.amir doest go into detail.wanted a heater when? after rehearsals or before did he get one that night as he just said sometimes mj wanted one. Im sat here typing this with a hot water bottle as im always cold.some ppl feel the cold more doesnt mean u are ill.which is what the family are trying to imply with their comments.taking something and blowing it up for their lawsuit. but then $ is more important to the family

i do find amirs comments strange though why would u say that.its kinda out of the blue.its not related to the question.he was working for the family at that time correct?. Sorry u end up being suspicious of everyone

 

[smoothlugar]

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I know, the family are implying something else, but as you said that will be relevant for the other lawsuits but not for this one.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Yeah but of course murray will try and use it to help him in this case

 

[sspongey98]

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This Is It movie didn't show all rehearsal footage. There is over 100 hours of footage. And most of the time they didn't show full performances. In This Is It movie I don't see a frail man. I see te king rehearsing.

If we still had all rehearsal footage, though, I doubt he'd be sick.

 

[chanel05]

Well tbh i dont think thats what the family are implying in their lawsuit.they make it out that mj was hypothermic and disorentated.amir doest go into detail.wanted a heater when? after rehearsals or before did he get one that night as he just said sometimes mj wanted one. Im sat here typing this with a hot water bottle as im always cold.some ppl feel the cold more doesnt mean u are ill.which is what the family are trying to imply with their comments.taking something and blowing it up for their lawsuit. but then $ is more important to the family

i do find amirs comments strange though why would u say that.its kinda out of the blue.its not related to the question.he was working for the family at that time correct?. Sorry u end up being suspicious of everyone

I don't think any of them mean "normally" cold but abnormally cold.. Why would they put that he was "normally" cold in his lawsuit?!? That would be very stupid.. I think its mentioned because its the middle of summer time, he had on all of those clothes (usually long sleeves, jackets, pants) and he was still cold. N I don't think it was that cold in there to need a heater and jacket.. I think that is what the fam and Bro M is implying when they say he was cold cause any otherwise it would be pointless to bring up

 

[chanel05]

If we still had all rehearsal footage, though, I doubt he'd be sick.

I don't think he would be literally sick either.. They may try to point out stuff though that they think shows he wasn't fine

 

[StacyJ]

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I don't think he would be literally sick either.. They may try to point out stuff though that they think shows he wasn't fine

well if he wasn't fine it's Murray's fault. His cocktail of sedatives is what made MJ sick

 

[8701girl]

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yes it is good news. I still don't understand how the footage will help Murray. If Mike was in tip top shape and dancing and singing it will show he was fine and that Murray's reckless ass killed him. If he was sick and weak Murray would still be to blame because he did nothing to help his sick patient instead he made him sicker and weaker with all of those damn sedatives. How can a person get strong if his doctor is drugging him up with sedatives?

Murray is screwed either way it goes

LOL murray is such a dumb@ss!

 

[sspongey98]

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I saw the June 23rd footage of "They Don't Care About Us" the other day, and I didn't see Michael being sick. That was two days before he died. Murray's guilty.

 

[Topflux]

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This is stupid. Let's say Michael 'felt sick' at some moment it has nothing to do with 'dying'. It's pretty normal if you haven't for example slept or eaten properly, or have eaten something bad or something that don't fit together. Don't they understand that autopsy said enough?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Cause its stupid.but what else do the defence have besides the tooth fiary did it

 

[8701girl]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals To Show Warning Signs

Cause its stupid.but what else do the defence have besides the tooth fiary did it

Dont give the defence that idea cuz they just might use it!. They are dumb enough to

 

[Moonwalker.Fan]

LOS ANGELES — Sony Pictures Entertainment has agreed to allow lawyers for Dr. Conrad Murray to view some 100 hours of raw footage of Michael Jackson’s rehearsals for his “This Is It” concert. But they are not allowed to make public statements about what they see. .

A stipulation filed with a Los Angeles court on Thursday said that the lawyers and Murray will be able to view the contents of 21 boxes containing audio visual recordings of Jackson’s rehearsals, which became the basis for a concert movie after the singer’s death. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in the superstar’s June 25, 2009, death from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives.

His lawyers are seeking footage that may show Jackson was not well in the days before his death.

Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Sony agrees to show ‘This Is It’ raw footage to lawyers for doctor accused in Jackson death - The Washington Post

 

[StacyJ]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

Murray saw MJ everyday for 6 weeks right? he even attended some rehearsals with him right? so why does he need to see footage to determine if his patient was sick or not?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

No point letting them see all that footage when they can only use footage from the last two days.

 

[marebear]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

I don't get how this would help Murray? If he says Michael wasn't well then why was he giving him those meds and propofol? It's like everyone forgets he was the doctor and was suppose to be looking after Michael in the first place. It was the propofol that killed Michael that Murray gave.

 

[StacyJ]

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I don't get how this would help Murray? If he says Michael wasn't well then why was he giving him those meds and propofol? It's like everyone forgets he was the doctor and was suppose to be looking after Michael in the first place. It was the propofol that killed Michael that Murray gave.

Exactly.. that is why Murray was hired. His ass wanted $150,000 per month to be MJ's doctor so he is the one responsible for his care. If MJ was sick he should've done something about it rather than drug him up with anesthesia and sedatives

 

[marebear]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

Exactly.. that is why Murray was hired. His ass wanted $150,000 per month to be MJ's doctor so he is the one responsible for his care. If MJ was sick he should've done something about it rather than drug him up with anesthesia and sedatives

I am not a lawyer but I hope the prosecution keep reminding the jury that Murray is a doctor. That is was his job to take care of him and he failed.

 

[Ashtanga]

LOS ANGELES — Sony Pictures Entertainment has agreed to allow lawyers for Dr. Conrad Murray to view some 100 hours of raw footage of Michael Jackson’s rehearsals for his “This Is It” concert. But they are not allowed to make public statements about what they see. .

A stipulation filed with a Los Angeles court on Thursday said that the lawyers and Murray will be able to view the contents of 21 boxes containing audio visual recordings of Jackson’s rehearsals, which became the basis for a concert movie after the singer’s death. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in the superstar’s June 25, 2009, death from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives.

His lawyers are seeking footage that may show Jackson was not well in the days before his death.

Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Sony agrees to show ‘This Is It’ raw footage to lawyers for doctor accused in Jackson death - The Washington Post

Oh God... :doh:

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

They have no choice the footage was subed

 

[elusive moonwalker]

I don't get how this would help Murray? If he says Michael wasn't well then why was he giving him those meds and propofol? It's like everyone forgets he was the doctor and was suppose to be looking after Michael in the first place. It was the propotfol that killed Michael that Murray gave.

contest the a.r say demoral made him react to diprivan. Murray didnt know he was using it.so its not my fault. Look for footage on the tapes of someone in withdrawl from dem.that seems to be the basis.but it doesnt help him if he had been watching mj right equipment etc

 

[xthunderx2]

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disgusting....why would he need to view this footage,,,he knows what he did to Michael...and him seeing the 23rd and 24th footage will show nothing different other than what we already know...and that is that he killed Michael on June 25th with propofol....that has NOTHING to do with the other days,,,jeez...one has nothing to do with the other,

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

This is another thing that bothers me. Murray has claimed that he either knew or at least suspected Michael was already sick prior to his death. And Murray wants to see the Sony footage in defense of that claim. But if Murray thought that Michael was in such terrible shape, why didn't he get Michael to a hospital? Why is it okay for some people in the public that Murray came to work for Michael and failed so miserably in his duties as a doctor? If any other doctor with any other patient had done something like this, they would be disgraced. They would be shunned by the medical community and the public at large. They would lose their medical practice and have their license permanently revoked. They would be hauled into court for criminal and possibly civil proceedings and later thrown in jail with the key tossed away. There wouldn't be any excuses whatsoever. So how is it that Murray, a fully-grown medical professional, bears no responsibility for the medical care for his patient Michael Jackson and Michael has to shoulder all the responsibility from his grave? No way. Doctors have a duty to make the best possible decisions for their patients, celebrity or not. And if the doctor feels that a patient is having serious problems under the doctor's care. The doctor should act accordingly to solve the issue(s), not do something stupid and then blame the patient. If Michael was sick in any way, Murray should have taken the right steps to deal with whatever was wrong with him, including taking Michael to a hospital or a sleep-study clinic since Murray is so keen on saying that Michael had been slowly falling apart for weeks. I don't care if Michael begged and demanded that Propofol at this point. If Murray didn't have the nerve to say "No Michael" and/or "I quit", that's Murray's own fault. This is all just my opinion.

 

[jilliebean]

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I think the difference here is that Michael is a celebrity, and Murray is a shady "LA" Doctor. This obviously is how this is being viewed and why the prosecution is treading lightly. If the prosecution pushed maybe Murray would have been reprimanded more, but if the prosecution pushes harder the defense will use that and say Michael was addicted to something or wanted something out of the ordinary and Murray provided it because he was pressured, blah, blah... and even though it may not be the truth, the case is circumstantial and it will be enough to prove reasonable doubt and that is all the defense needs to do.

One thing I've thought of recently and I hope the prosecution points this out, is that if Michael was an addict and wanted one of these "LA" doctors he probably would have already had one. Murray treated Michael's children, so he didn't come into Michael's life because Michael wanted something. I don't believe Michael would have let him treat his children if he was not presented to Michael as a good doctor and Michael didn't trust him.

On a side note does anyone know if they finger printed the pill bottles they found after Michael passed?

This is another thing that bothers me. Murray has claimed that he either knew or at least suspected Michael was already sick prior to his death. And Murray wants to see the Sony footage in defense of that claim. But if Murray thought that Michael was in such terrible shape, why didn't he get Michael to a hospital? Why is it okay for some people in the public that Murray came to work for Michael and failed so miserably in his duties as a doctor? If any other doctor with any other patient had done something like this, they would be disgraced. They would be shunned by the medical community and the public at large. They would lose their medical practice and have their license permanently revoked. They would be hauled into court for criminal and possibly civil proceedings and later thrown in jail with the key tossed away. There wouldn't be any excuses whatsoever. So how is it that Murray, a fully-grown medical professional, bears no responsibility for the medical care for his patient Michael Jackson and Michael has to shoulder all the responsibility from his grave? No way. Doctors have a duty to make the best possible decisions for their patients, celebrity or not. And if the doctor feels that a patient is having serious problems under the doctor's care. The doctor should act accordingly to solve the issue(s), not do something stupid and then blame the patient. If Michael was sick in any way, Murray should have taken the right steps to deal with whatever was wrong with him, including taking Michael to a hospital or a sleep-study clinic since Murray is so keen on saying that Michael had been slowly falling apart for weeks. I don't care if Michael begged and demanded that Propofol at this point. If Murray didn't have the nerve to say "No Michael" and/or "I quit", That's Murray's own fault. This is all just my opinion.

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

^^^Well, then personally, I don't see why I should hope for a "guilty" verdict in this case. In my opinion, if a fully-grown medical professional can have a lapse in ethical judgement, show a tragic failure to meet the utmost principals for the standard of proper medical care and then simply blame his dead celebrity patient for everything and walk out of court facing no jail time, then I personally do not believe that there is any reason for me to think that justice will prevail for Michael. I'm sorry to be all doom and gloom here. But I'm very disgusted by this case at this point.

 

[jilliebean]

Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals *Update @197* Sony To Give Rehearsals

I know it's sad, because they are not viewing the case the same as they would if Michael was not a celebrity. Just so we are clear, I'm not saying I agree with it, and it's just my opinion on why things are being handled the way they are. I personally think that even if the case is weaker they should charge him with the correct charge and try to get justice instead of playing it safe. I've said it before 4 years is basically nothing anyway and that's if he even gets the full sentence, I would rather try to convict him of the right charge and lose than charge him with a lesser charge and have Michael's name dragged through the mud. They should charge him with more and drag his name through the mud.

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