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‘Prince and The Revolution: Live’ Completely Remastered & Digitally Enhanced Release June 3, 2022

The Prince Estate, in Partnership with Legacy Recordings, Announces Completely Remastered and Digitally Enhanced Release of Prince and The Revolution: Live. Prince and The Revolution’s Historic Purple Rain Tour Performance in Syracuse, NY Available on CD, Vinyl, and Blu-ray For the Very First...
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The Prince Estate's releasing Prince' 1985 concert from Syracuse, NY. I wish the Estate of MJ would do something similar.:(
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It's remastered too. :( Hopefully, the Estate wakes up. Every day I get more & more frustrated with the Estate, they have the time, money & content to do this as well. I want to have hope for a new release but it's the MJ Estate. They need to realize that remastering & digitizing the masters & film is where the money is. They could do a lot with this. They have multiple business income streams that they could use to pitch in.
 
I don't want to defend the Estate here but in their defence, I can understand them delaying certain things the last 3 years.

I'd hate for them to finally release a new song, let's say Joy (hopefully one day we'll hear MJ's version), and it's poorly received and there's a backlash because legal troubles they're having navigate. The song doesn't get the spotlight and then they hold back for even longer

Don't get me wrong, before 2019 I couldn't understand nor defend not only the lack of new material but the drop in quality that they did release. Michael's Halloween, the Off The Wall chalk

I know they're using legal troubles as massive excuse now, but I could understand it at least initially. Hopefully they wrap up the legal stuff and get back to focusing on Michael's unique talent and incredible artistry
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I don't want to defend the Estate here but in their defence, I can understand them delaying certain things the last 3 years.

I'd hate for them to finally release a new song, let's say Joy (hopefully one day we'll hear MJ's version), and it's poorly received and there's a backlash because legal troubles they're having navigate. The song doesn't get the spotlight and then they hold back for even longer

Don't get me wrong, before 2019 I couldn't understand nor defend not only the lack of new material but the drop in quality that they did release. Michael's Halloween, the Off The Wall chalk

I know they're using legal troubles as massive excuse now, but I could understand it at least initially. Hopefully they wrap up the legal stuff and get back to focusing on Michael's unique talent and incredible artistry
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People keep mentioning this chalk. Did they seriously produce a piece of chalk for people to buy? Or am I just misinterpreting the comments I've read? Because my head is spinning!
 
zinniabooklover said:
People keep mentioning this chalk. Did they seriously produce a piece of chalk for people to buy? Or am I just misinterpreting the comments I've read? Because my head is spinning!
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They included a piece of chalk for the OTW doc/album re release, as a nice bonus for fans. You could draw a nice picture on the sleeve of the album, how cool!
 
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We were definitely gonna get something for MJ's 10th death anniversary, wasn't the Estate producing remixes in 2018?
 
It's weird that there is absolutely no rumours of new releases or anything.

I mean, they surely are trying to get focus back on MJ - the artist. Focus on his art = the music, concerts and videoes.

MJ One, the musical MJ, a biopic etc. - that's great.

But now covid-19 is no longer a problem, that can/should not be used as an excuse to not release new music.
LN is also long forgotten and is no longer a problem - I think most people could see thru all the lies and see that these 2 persons were liars and just wanted money and attention.

So that's not really an excuse any longer to not make a new release.

MJ's streaming and sales numbers are actually great. -also youtube views. So new music would be perfect - maybe around MJ's birthday in late august, then the first 1-2 singles could drop in june and late july. Hopefully a summer-hit.

I really hope we get new music this year... it's been so long.
 
Since I'm a more recent fan I don't actually know much about how the estate functions. So I'm curious...in the past, were there announcements well in advance of when new music would drop? I'm wondering where the rumors about new material tend to come from. I have a hard time believing they aren't gearing up to release more stuff, especially because of all the other projects and the uptick in streaming, sales, YouTube views, as @Hess described.

...But also now that I've heard about the chalk....idk what to think lol
 
staywild23 said:
Since I'm a more recent fan I don't actually know much about how the estate functions. So I'm curious...in the past, were there announcements well in advance of when new music would drop? I'm wondering where the rumors about new material tend to come from. I have a hard time believing they aren't gearing up to release more stuff, especially because of all the other projects and the uptick in streaming, sales, YouTube views, as @Hess described.

...But also now that I've heard about the chalk....idk what to think lol
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Welcome. Get ready to be dissapointed for years to come.🎉
 
staywild23 said:
Since I'm a more recent fan I don't actually know much about how the estate functions. So I'm curious...in the past, were there announcements well in advance of when new music would drop? I'm wondering where the rumors about new material tend to come from. I have a hard time believing they aren't gearing up to release more stuff, especially because of all the other projects and the uptick in streaming, sales, YouTube views, as @Hess described.

...But also now that I've heard about the chalk....idk what to think lol
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This is an estate that honestly made an announcement about an upcoming announcement....

But I think 1-2 months prior to the release there was an annoucemnet - also because there was a single coming before the actual album if I remember correct.
 
They are not releasing any music for a long time simply due to the tax case.

Believe it or not. Not because of lack of music. Not because of the "pandemic". Not because they don't want to release a full album anymore.

You're just coping if you believe any other reason, unfortunately. Oh, and also a little bit of because of complete and utter incompetence
 
Pentum said:
They are not releasing any music for a long time simply due to the tax case.

Believe it or not. Not because of lack of music. Not because of the "pandemic". Not because they don't want to release a full album anymore.

You're just coping if you believe any other reason, unfortunately. Oh, and also a little bit of because of complete and utter incompetence
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There is probably some truth to this. I have thought this myself. I believe they did not disclose the true amount of unreleased material for the IRS evaluation. One day they will another found MJ’s long lost hard drives and film reels. 😂
 
Smooth72 said:
believe they did not disclose the true amount of unreleased material for the IRS evaluation
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Oh that's interesting, IRS would evaluate potential value of unreleased stuff? Who can guess what's the value!
 
Smooth72 said:
There is probably some truth to this. I have thought this myself. I believe they did not disclose the true amount of unreleased material for the IRS evaluation. One day they will another found MJ’s long lost hard drives and film reels. 😂
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I tend to agree that IRS could be one of the reasons why they haven't disclosed the true extent of unreleased material. It goes with their line of argument that MJ's image and likeness was next to nothing, he hadn't released or toured in years, no big brands wanted to associate or sponsor him......

Another interesting speculative tit bit, I had read somewhere was about the preference to release unfinished demos, instead of completed tracks from the OTW, Thriller and Bad era, where the songs were composed and written by Mike, was to keep Quincy getting royalties for those songs as a producer. I would like to know from people who know better if there is any truth to this ! Even on Thriller 25 only songs that were Mike's are the ones that were remixed. (Thriller, Baby be mine, Human Nature, LIML, PYT weren't remixed. They had Will I am remix the other PYT that was Mike's.)

I think Quincy has the first right of refusal to re-work any of the released songs. So as long as Quincy is around and behaving like Quincy, I don't think the estate is gonna have it easy with songs from that era.

If i remember correctly, in the estate vs Q royalties dispute, it was the music released on This is it, Q had issues that the music was reworked without his permission. The estate argued that music wasn't reworked and that they merely used Michael's home demos before Q worked on them.

I may have over simplified it. Please feel free to correct me if necessary !
 
Peter_Pan said:
I tend to agree that IRS could be one of the reasons why they haven't disclosed the true extent of unreleased material. It goes with their line of argument that MJ's image and likeness was next to nothing, he hadn't released or toured in years, no big brands wanted to associate or sponsor him......

Another interesting speculative tit bit, I had read somewhere was about the preference to release unfinished demos, instead of completed tracks from the OTW, Thriller and Bad era, where the songs were composed and written by Mike, was to keep Quincy getting royalties for those songs as a producer. I would like to know from people who know better if there is any truth to this ! Even on Thriller 25 only songs that were Mike's are the ones that were remixed. (Thriller, Baby be mine, Human Nature, LIML, PYT weren't remixed. They had Will I am remix the other PYT that was Mike's.)

I think Quincy has the first right of refusal to re-work any of the released songs. So as long as Quincy is around and behaving like Quincy, I don't think the estate is gonna have it easy with songs from that era.

If i remember correctly, in the estate vs Q royalties dispute, it was the music released on This is it, Q had issues that the music was reworked without his permission. The estate argued that music wasn't reworked and that they merely used Michael's home demos before Q worked on them.

I may have over simplified it. Please feel free to correct me if necessary !
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But why can't they just work with Quincy to empty their vault? Is the Estate so greedy that they're willing to deny all of MJ's collaborators a chance to release stuff they were never able to? That's pretty low.
 
A lot of unreleased stuff from the 80's Quincy had nothing to do with and probably never heard. And the stuff from the 90's and 00's Quincy had absolutely nothing to do with.

The Estate just doesn't think there's much money to be made on unreleased songs. They don't care about the die-hard fans like us that are clamoring to hear what's in the vault. They don't see much profit.
 
wonderouzmj said:
I give up on the estate. I don't think they will ever release anything else. It's like they are trying to fade his memory. They don't care about us!
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Definitely seems like it. Got to keep the competition away from the new age degenerate type of music and artists that the youth are being raised by. By making zero efforts to keep MJ's legacy alive, it minimises MJ's exposure and influence on them :)
 
The archive is full, they may or may not have all the material to hand. Hopefully we will experience some of it in the next few years.. The Biopic should generate considerable income, we can only see what may happen in the years following.
 
wonderouzmj said:
I give up on the estate. I don't think they will ever release anything else. It's like they are trying to fade his memory. They don't care about us!
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Yes, they are trying to fade his memory. It’s not like MJ One, Immortal World Tour, Broadway shows don’t exist, which do more to keep Michael’s legacy alive than any unreleased music would. Not to mention the upcoming biopic which will reach out to a lot of younger audience.

I know that you are a bit emotional but please think before you post.
 
I'd rather see nothing than a musical and biopic to be honest. Neither are to my taste and I don't think they add anything to Michael's legacy
 
Nite Line said:
Yes, they are trying to fade his memory. It’s not like MJ One, Immortal World Tour, Broadway shows don’t exist, which do more to keep Michael’s legacy alive than any unreleased music would. Not to mention the upcoming biopic which will reach out to a lot of younger audience.

I know that you are a bit emotional but please think before you post.
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A musical which has a main actor who didn't have much good stuff to say about MJ a while ago. Hm...
 
Nite Line said:
Yes, they are trying to fade his memory. It’s not like MJ One, Immortal World Tour, Broadway shows don’t exist, which do more to keep Michael’s legacy alive than any unreleased music would. Not to mention the upcoming biopic which will reach out to a lot of younger audience.

I know that you are a bit emotional but please think before you post.
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MJ One, Immortal World Tour and Broadway shows are just local efforts. I can't visit any of these, and I don't even know anyone who can. Because they are not available everywhere in the world for instance.

Surely, it would be odd if no type of circus/show would NOT want to do any MJ project. It's an absolute minimum requirement.
 
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