Nurse Cherilyn Lee Is a Liar and Possible Supporter of Dr. Murder Murray

Again, I ask to all the ppl who say she just popped up out of nowhere, can anyone tell me WHY she said she did this? Anyone? Becuz she DID state why? It's really weird how basic info gets dismissed or maybe ppl dismissed her so early that they missed her intent...which she DID state. Anyway, I gotta go to lunch and then I have a meeting. Maybe someone with time can go back and hunt down all the transcripts and interviews she's given from day one and reaquaint themselves with her "testimony".

Peace.
 
Nah we ain't saying the info got dissed, we're just concerned with why it took her to come out and say "wait a minute, it wasn't demerol, it was Diprivan" or whatever she initially said. I'm mystified as to why the LAPD had been acting so slow especially when they found the sedative on their second investigation of the house and how Murray supposedly "admitted to it". I'm thinking the reason she "popped up" was because, well, we didn't even know of her until now, lol. Maybe that's why I was confused.
 
Again, I ask to all the ppl who say she just popped up out of nowhere, can anyone tell me WHY she said she did this? Anyone? Becuz she DID state why? It's really weird how basic info gets dismissed or maybe ppl dismissed her so early that they missed her intent...which she DID state. Anyway, I gotta go to lunch and then I have a meeting. Maybe someone with time can go back and hunt down all the transcripts and interviews she's given from day one and reaquaint themselves with her "testimony".

Peace.

I honestly don't REMEMBER if she said "why," and I didn't tape it. Anyone?

I do remember that she said (at the time of her first tv appearances) that she hadn't yet spoken to police. And I wondered, why not? Did she try and they didn't interview her? I know that AFTER her appearances on tv she did have contact with police, and they took her Michael-related documents from her office. I DO remember that she said she cooperated.

To the best of my recollection, she was the first person to mention Propofol. Without that mentioning, the coroner might not have known to look for it. . . it's so unusual.

So my questions are (which might not be possible to answer), did she come forward to help with the investigation, by presenting the truth? Or did she come forward to steer the investigation in the direction of Propofol, for some reason? Don't know, and we may NEVER know.

If the answer to the first question is "yes," then she is to be commended. If the answer to the second question is "yes," then it's possible to speculate why she would want to steer the investigation in the direction of Propofol? This is just in terms of speculation, and really nothing else, nor fact-based.

So, I'm hoping she is a good citizen and wanted the truth to come out. Instead, if she was trying to steer the investigation, then my speculation is. . . just that. . . . . . perhaps because Propofol is not a controlled substance, that the fall Murray would take would not be that serious. Might be (as we see now), manslaughter. If that's what he's convicted of, that might result in no jail time. Just probation.

We don't KNOW if there is a larger conspiracy. We may never know, especially if the focus is only on Murray (and Klein) and is a case of stupidity.

How can we ever know if Murray was part of a conspiracy? If he doesn't "sing," and no one else does, I can think of only one way. Follow the money. Just that. If he's convicted of manslaughter, watch what he does AFTER either jail-time or probation. Does he leave the country? Does he seem to mysteriously have MONEY? We don't KNOW if he will leave the country or have money. But IF he does. . .. .how?

Actually, I can think of one other way we will know. And that is if the Jackson family has hired a private investigator and files a wrongful death lawsuit. The rules of law are much looser in civil court, and more information may come to light.

peace-out,

Vic
 
Found one transcript of Cherilyn on Anderson Cooper's show June 30th., Campbell Brown was the interviewer.

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/30/transcript-of-cherilyn-lee-interview/



June 30, 2009




Transcript of Cherilyn Lee interview
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Cherilyn Lee is a holisitic health practitioner and has been in healthcare for 23 years, her Web site states.

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Campbell Brown
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Campbell: we have some breaking news to share with you now on Michael Jackson’s medical condition on the days before he died. A nurse practitioner whose specialty includes nutritional counseling says that Jackson suffered from insomnia and he had begged her to inject him with a powerful sedative. That nurse is Cherilyn Lee and joining us right now by telephone. Welcome to you.
Cherilyn Lee: oh, thank you very much, thank you.
Campbell: appreciate you talking to us about this. I want you to start by telling us about this phone call that you got. This was two Sundays ago, June 21st, from a member of Michael Jackson’s staff. What happened?

Cherilyn Lee: well, I received a call, I was in Florida. And unfortunately, I was actually in the hospital myself in the E.R. in Florida. And I received the call and I could hear Mr. Jackson in the background saying please have her come see me now. Can she come now? And the person in on the other end, which I know the person, but I’d prefer not to give out their names. Because they know me quite well said that Mr. Jackson really, really needs you. He is experiencing — they told me the symptoms and I said that is very serious, you need to go to the hospital. Unfortunately I’m not in town so I cannot come and see you. But you need to go to the hospital. I’m very — I was really afraid because of the symptoms he was telling me.
Campbell: what were those symptoms?
Cherilyn Lee: the symptoms were one side of his body felt cold and one side of his body felt hot.
Campbell: and what did that mean to you?
Cherilyn Lee: well, that meant — it could have meant a couple of things. It could have meant something going on in the nervous system, or something cardiovascular, but more than nervous system because of the brain itself. and I had already gone through — I think this is why he was reaching out for me Sunday because I had already about three months ago went through all of the symptoms this medication that he wanted that his doctor told him and I don’t know who his doctor is. His doctor told him that this was safe.
Campbell: and you were talking — I’m sorry, go ahead.
Cherilyn Lee: I’m sorry.
Campbell: no, you’re talking about just correct me if I’m wrong, you’re talking about that drug called dipervan, is that correct?
Cherilyn Lee: yes
Campbell: and was he asking you for the drug?
Cherilyn Lee: he was asking me for the drug. And he was asking me about it three months ago and I said I don’t know what that is so I excused myself from where he was, and I made a call to a friend who was a physician and I said what is? At first I thought he was mispronouncing it. Are you speaking of something else? He said no. and when I spoke with the physician he said that is a very — you do not — he asked me, he said who is asking about this drug? This is a medication you only really give in ICU.
Campbell: and it’s a sedative, a painkiller?

Cherilyn Lee: it is a — you know, still I don’t want to go into a whole lot of detail with it. It’s in the PDR, I sat down with Michael and I said I actually left him that day because he didn’t understand. He kept thinking this was safe. I went all the way back to my office, went back to him and said, look. This medication is not safe. I don’t know who is telling you this is safe. It isn’t. He said I just want to get some sleep. You don’t understand. I want the IV when it drips in my hand; I want to be able to be knocked out and go to sleep. And this was the very first time, even though we had discussed this before that I told him, you know, it is so painful because I actually felt it in my whole spirit. I said if you take that, you know, you want to be knocked out, and I’m so sorry but if you take this you might not wake up.
Campbell: do you know if he took your advice? Did he go to the hospital? Was there any way to follow-up?
Cherilyn Lee: what happened was, I was actually at the hospital myself. I was in the emergency room in St. Petersburg. And was being admitted myself. So I tried to call back later and I could not reach anyone. And I was — I was in Florida for a couple of days there. When I arrived back in L.A., I still was trying to reach, you know, I could not reach anyone. So I didn’t know whether or not he had gone.
Campbell: did you go to the authorities with any of this?
Cherilyn Lee: no
Campbell: did you think about doing that?
Cherilyn Lee: well, when I saw it on the news I kind of felt I knew what happened. And I just didn’t really — I really didn’t know what to do. I was saddened; I heard there was a physician there.
Campbell: do you know — do you know if there was a doctor who may have given him this drug?
Cherilyn Lee: I don’t know of any doctors. I don’t know of anyone that was seeing him. He just told me — because I asked him, what doctor gave him this drug, ‘oh it was a long time ago.
Campbell: so just to give a sense of your relationship with him, how long had you known him, what was the relationship?
Cherilyn Lee: well I met him in January. And because someone called me and said his children had a runny nose and a little cough and could I come out to the house and see them. And because it was a referral person he felt very comfortable. And so when I arrived at the house I saw three children. And actually I love working with children and I kind of set something up for them some vitamin c and, you know, as a practitioner I listened to their lungs to make sure they were clear and went ahead and did the routine physical exam and everything. And after I finished with the children and had given them some vitamin c that they had, you know, the vitamin c powder and a couple of other things, it’s a homeopathic; they told their dad they were feeling a lot better. So he looked at me and said what else do you do? And so I said well I help people, you know, when they want to very more energy. And he said, oh, well, okay, that’s really good. And so we start taking it from there and I try to find out why is it you don’t have any energy? And just went through the whole course of, you know, not that day. He asked me if I could come back the following day. So I went and drew some blood, maybe you’re anemic or maybe it’s this or that, but let’s not second guess anything. I did full lab work. A full work-up on him. Then I told him from there that nutritionally we could get you set up.
Campbell: right. And his doctor was also working with him presumably yet? Dr. Murray.
Cherilyn Lee: I don’t know. I didn’t see anybody. I didn’t see anybody in January. February, March, there was a time he did go to London, so -he was out. But I never heard of a doctor, I never did see anyone.
Campbell: all right.
Cherilyn Lee: I told him I prefer to do continuity of care with someone. And I didn’t see anyone
 
See, this is what I'm talking about. The nurse didn't say anything about diprivan and a cocktail of drugs. It was solely diprivan and she has stated, in her opinion, that Michael was drug-free and not addicted to ANYTHING. She has been adamant that Michael wasn't a drug addict nor did she see any behavior that would indicate unusual behavior other than his complaints about sleep. It was the police who have tried to convince her that MJ was an addict..which she continues to not believe.

I give up.
that is a good point (the part bolded) and in looking past the specific sound bytes or specifics of what each person is saying, I feel the point of the media (or their payers) is to paint an overall picture. If her job was to only plant the Propofol story it would make sense that she would say no to the drug addiction question, which from her pov could even be true that he was to her knowledge not addicted to anything.

Demerol is slowly coming back to the MJ picture, I'm just hearing Arnold Klein is being investigated and he may be, like Murray, arrested in two weeks, this is according to sources from Faux, er, Fox News. They claim Klein was always giving MJ demerol. Tabloids have also mentioned it recently.
That's another thing. Klein may be one who prescribed pain killers to MJ and all the drama around words like, "investigation", "arrests" and all ... could be simply adding "credibility" to their entire scheme.

We have such limited and conflicting and missing information at this point, and I know some fans are thinking, "why don't these people just accept the fact that MJ was on drugs and died from Propofol and/or drug abuse"

my response is I am not going to 'accept' anything the media is putting out there because they have been sensationalizing and not asking any of the most obvious questions that simply need to be addressed, that's all. Its not about MJ being "perfect" or anything like that. If medical examiners all concur that there was a "cocktail" (another sound byte) of drugs found in him, I will be the first to say, he was only human. This stuff just needs to start making sense.

Thanks bgz for posting the transcript.

I just first and foremost can't wait to find out the answer to this:

Unfortunately I’m not in town so I cannot come and see you. But you need to go to the hospital. I’m very — I was really afraid because of the symptoms he was telling me.

In exploring, I'm wondering, why did MJ call her, his nutritionist, to inquire about something so disturbing and if he has all these "doctor friends" why wouldn't he have called one of them? Is it because he didn't want anyone to know he used Propofol? Maybe. With such disturbing symptoms, I'm just not seeing why call her but maybe he wanted the most homeopathic perspective at the time, I guess that would make sense. He had enough vehicles to get security to take him to the hospital, friends who have very expensive doctors who would have gladly advised him, one of Liz's friends maybe even and a slew of doctor connections of his own ...

... but most of all, if he called her feeling she'd give it to him straight and she did just that, then why did he not take her advice and go to the hospital? Nervous system? Brain? Cardiovascular? Would that not alarm a person so desperate for the right advice?

Just questions. Its good to have the transcript, thanks again.
 
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Bgz, thanks for posting a transcript! Any others?

This is the part that I remember quite well, and questioned at the time:

Campbell: did you go to the authorities with any of this?
Cherilyn Lee: no
Campbell: did you think about doing that?
Cherilyn Lee: well, when I saw it on the news I kind of felt I knew what happened. And I just didn’t really — I really didn’t know what to do. I was saddened; I heard there was a physician there.

I don't understand why she didn't contact the police FIRST? Wouldn't that be the logical thing to do, if she had this important information about Propofol? So. . I don't get that part. She "didn't know what to do?" Why not? Might mean nothing, but I DID question that.

The key question for me (in addition to why she didn't contact the police first), is why she was THE person who steered the investigation toward Propofol? Might be innocent, or might not be? I just don't know.
 
So she did not go to the authorities FIRST? And according to her, she saw the doc in January, I'm guessing Murray. :blink:

Not sure what you mean, in the last part of the transcript I posted, she said she did NOT see a doc in in Jan/Feb/Mar.
 
And SEE! This is why I was concerned why she went to the media FIRST with the story. Was she afraid she wouldn't be believed because the LAPD wanted to make sure that they were investigating what caused the death of a "prescription drug addict"?
 
^ Vic that was my first thought also. How many media outlets did she make her way to?

Maybe she'd contacted the police by the time she did all these interviews?

^ Troubleman that may be, but I feel its being merciful lol. It really doesn't sit right that she did not go to the police FIRST, who she knew from the TV reports, were in a complete mystery about how he died.
 
Here's another interview she did on CNN Drew Griffin's show July 1st. She does go into more detail in the second half. Sorry no transcript, but doesn't take too long to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7t1OeWQmNU

Wow... I had avoided all media about this but listening to it, she is basically saying MJ DID beg for it to go to sleep. This is crazy. :doh:
 
Don't believe Nurse Cherilyn Lee. I think she is one of the supporters of Dr. Murder Murray
Without the inplant of her lies, all anyone would have evidence of is that Michael Jackson was known to use pure Oxygen therapy, and an i.v. drip to prevent dehydration.
I, believe Nurse Cherilyn Lee was paid to go to the police and media and insert (plant) the Propofol addiction story.

so what happens when the toxis say diprivan was in his system.

I thought Dr Murray said "he didn't give him anything that should have killed him" in which case it couldn't be propofol.
diprivan shouldnt kill you. if administered right
 
Well according to sources, Murray wasn't even living with MJ though they said he died in "Murray's bed". :huh:

Sounds erroneously to me.
 
Found another interview, CNN John Roberts, July 1st (Sanjay Gupta gets into the convo towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnV2mrAM6l8&NR=1

I'm finding it odd that she admits she did not know about Diprivan specifically, although maybe in holistic medicine she didn't keep up with other fields of practice.

And in a few shots it shows her standing in front of a board with her name on it and "Dr." before her name. Now you can get a doctorate's degree in nursing, although it's usually administrative and research nurses that do that, maybe NP's can study and obtain it as well. But it crossed my mind that perhaps Michael saw the Dr. somewhere, maybe on her business card, her professional stationery, whatever, and somehow felt she would know someone she could recommend. Who knows, so many "if's", could haves, might haves. Mind boggling.
 
Found another interview, CNN John Roberts, July 1st (Sanjay Gupta gets into the convo towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnV2mrAM6l8&NR=1

I'm finding it odd that she admits she did not know about Diprivan specifically, although maybe in holistic medicine she didn't keep up with other fields of practice.

And in a few shots it shows her standing in front of a board with her name on it and "Dr." before her name. Now you can get a doctorate's degree in nursing, although it's usually administrative and research nurses that do that, maybe NP's can study and obtain it as well. But it crossed my mind that perhaps Michael saw the Dr. somewhere, maybe on her business card, her professional stationery, whatever, and somehow felt she would know someone she could recommend. Who knows, so many "if's", could haves, might haves. Mind boggling.
So once MJ realized she didn't even KNOW about the drug, how could he have kept begging her for it?

This is a man who likes for people to be EXPERTS in their field!

It seems the doctor Murray has the same kind of thing. They keep showing that pic of him being 'revererd' some kind of way in front of that sign that says something about Cardiovascular and I've seen reports that he has no specialty. Odd.
 
she said that she found Michael hands very dry and then she used some kind of cream to treat them....and i remember that it is true that his hands were scaly as one of the fans described them in a report after he shaked Mj's hand when he was shopping in mecy...but later in the pics that appeared at the months she said she was seeing Mj his hands looked much better.

she may not know about this unless she was ahard core fan like me LOL
 
um maybe her way to get the authorities to come to her was by going on tv. cuz anyone can walk in and say tehy worked w/ mj. hell, he got about fourty baby mamas and everyone is his childrens' father right about now.

so maybe this was her way to have them come to her
 
Someone reposted the fans account on how they saw MJ rail-thin and I'm beginning to believe his weight probably also contributed to his death. :( Especially if he was thin as they said. It could've been a mixture of that and the Diprivan.
 
Diprivan is not something that makes you feel well rested after you come down. Let's say the nurse is being honest about his phone call and he was upset about part of his body being hot and the other cold. How could he have made the phone call because that stuff knocks you out instantly.

It could be that he used IV's to maintain his weight or for his dehydration because he lost his appetite before tours due to being nervous and he took xanax to help combat the nervousness.

Doctors could put anything in that IV drip.

When I had surgery, I was put on dipravin. They had to stick a breathing tube down my throat.

http://surgery.about.com/od/questionsanswers/qt/DiprivanPropofolDiprivan.htm

Also here is a picture of a patient's room who was on diprivan. Notice all the equipment used?

http://breathinstephen.com/tag/diprivan/
 
The thing that bothered me most about her was the fact that she made the rounds to all the media outlets first and I too, also question why michael who had not spoken to her since april decided to call her on fathers day from feeling hot/cold. Why didn't he seek help right there in LA. If murry was his doc why would mike call her. That just don't make sense.

And let just get hypothetical here and say that michael took dip, which is what she thought as well by stating she knew someone gave him something that hit his nervous system. Lets just say that this really happened that fathers day. Why in the world would michael take dip again? I mean if I take a pill on friday and it makes me sweat and makes my heart race and I get so shook up that a call my friend tell them I don't feel good. I would have to be down right crazy to up and take that same pill on tuesday again. Just crazy! I don't think mike would be dumb enough to keep taking something that was scaring him healthwise.

it makes me wonder if it was SOMETHING ELSE that causing the chest pain, hot/cold, etc that michael was feeling in his last few days. Does dip have side effects like this? I wonder? Maybe it wasn't the dip that caused him feeling this way. And maybe it wasn't his prescrip meds either because he would already know the side effects to those, so it would scare him or alarm him to be so scared that he would call her. I wonder if michael was slipped something.:no:
 
Someone reposted the fans account on how they saw MJ rail-thin and I'm beginning to believe his weight probably also contributed to his death. :( Especially if he was thin as they said. It could've been a mixture of that and the Diprivan.
oh of course. it has to be measured to the tinest of weight. so if u lost five pounds from the last time u were given it, the drip rate is different so unless he kept a damn lithium scale to check his weight and did an ACCURATE ml/sec drip, then it could've went awry

notice they're saying he gave it to mj before and left before and nothing happened. but if he lost maybe one pound away from the safe zone, then it could've put his heart under trama and stress and caused this.

i don't find lee suspicious tobe honest.

murray
klien
dileo
allocco
phillips
barak

those are the ones that got me fumed
 
The nurse may be assuming too much, that's it. Maybe MJ mentioned Diprivan to her once, and she took that and made a whole song and dance about it. Maybe she has given Diprivan too much credit in all of this.

As for needing breathing equipment for propofol, not necessarily. In the OR propofol is used in conjunction with neuromuscular relaxants. The latter is used so that the person can be intubated. That is why they need breathing equipment. Then the person is keep anesthesized by something else like sevoflurane (sp) etc. or constant high infusion rates of propofol.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong.

If propofol is just an anesthetic it probably can be administered in certain lower doses without need for breathing equipment. In fact I think propofol is used in certain conscious sedation techniques. If that was the case with MJ techinically all he needed was monitoring, but the medically correct thing to do would be to have a crash cart of sorts available just in case.
 
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