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Possible reason 3T (Taj, Taryll & TJ) are against the Cascio track??

serena williams said:
I mean dominic Cascio HIMSELF confessed that THERE WAS A SECOND VOICE in BN still some fans continue to attack the 3T for saying the truth
Keep being in denial if it make you feel better
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Where did Dominic Cascio confess that their was a second voice? Was he talking about the background vocals? I'd like to see exactly what he said.
 
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tamfen said:
All this talk about fake vocals, started with 3t and the fans ran with it. The Jacksons are very good at planting seeds of doubt, I truly believe they will never be happy with anything that Sony or the Estate does.
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This has nothing to do with it. I heard Breaking News last monday and I was wondering whether this was a bad joke. I was convinced right from the beginning that it is Jason Malachi singing the lead vocals but definetly not Michael.

Afterwards I started reading all the news of the last few weeks concerning the album and the concerns of the Jacksons. So I had to agree with them, but they didn't influence my point of view.
 
lom kit said:
the thing is, Michael is in those 3 songs. but not only him is singing the lead vocals. So can this be seen as fraud, just because the record company hasn't quoted and admited that there are two persons singing the song. it's a duet or featuring song.
"the impersonator" can sue for not been credited, if he didn't expressly said he doesn't want to . if he was paid to not say anything is a different thing.
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If there is an uncredited impersonator then yes it's a fraud.

People sued Mili Vanilli.

After these details emerged, at least 26 different lawsuits[5] were filed under various U.S. consumer fraud protection laws[6] against Pilatus, Morvan and Arista Records. One such filing occurred on November 22, 1990 in Ohio, where lawyers there filed a class action lawsuit asking for refunds on behalf of a local woman in Cuyahoga County who had bought Girl You Know It's True; at the time the lawsuit was filed, it was estimated at least 1,000 Ohio residents had bought the album.[6] On August 12, 1991, a proposed settlement to a refund lawsuit in Chicago, Illinois was rejected. This settlement would have refunded buyers of Milli Vanilli CDs, cassettes, records, or singles. However, the refunds would only be given as a credit for a future Arista release.[5] On August 28, a new settlement was approved; it refunded those who attended concerts along with those who bought Milli Vanilli recordings[7]. An estimated 10 million buyers were eligible to claim a refund and they could keep the refunded recordings as well[7]. The deadline to claim refunds passed on March 8, 1992.[8]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milli_Vanilli

Cartman said:
I don't think Taryll can afford to hire a forensic audio specialist... that sort of thing is super expensive. Just because he is a Jackson does not mean he is made of money.
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Cory Rooney worked for Sony, he should have enough cash to help the Jacksons fight this criminal activity.
 
Cartman said:
Well, they either dont have enough money... or they can't be bothered to do it. We all know the tracks aren't Michael... so I just don't know the way forward.
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Who is we. Speak for yourself please. Many of us believe the contrary.

And if you are pooling money together to hire a forensic investigator, good for you I would love to see that, I really would. And btw I hope you not try to "inject" enough money to make him say anything.
Isn't that your argument about Sony/estate?

Do you think these FBI agents work for free?
 
Jermaine Tweeting about it now

http://twitter.com/jermjackson5

# Hello, I miss you all, just been busy traveling 4 minutes ago via web

#I agree with you all, these vocal that we are hearing on the new release of my brother Michael, is not 100% him 4 minutes ago via web

# Sony should have known you can't fool the family and our fans, we are against this 1000% 3 minutes ago via web

#as you can see this was done for GREED!!! 2 minutes ago via web

#They also did not want to call the album the King, because of Elvis, no disrespect to Elvis Michael Jackson id the KING!!! less than a minute ago via web

#I Love you all, thank you for your Love and support...Always 3 minutes ago via web
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Topflux said:
If they are serious about the album they should know what fans (the people who would keep Michael's legacy alive) are talking about and what they want. It's all about what the fans want and what is their opinions, nothing else.
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dead or not dead, record companys don't care about the artist. And now when he is gone, it's even more easy.
if he is on top at the moment, he is pushed. soon as he fall, left behind. MJ wasn't the only one that had and felt betrayed by the record company.
AND they don't give a shit about what fans think and want.
MJ fans aren't the only one that blame the company for everything.
we are not the only fans that feel, we could get more.
that we are not heard.
So don't make drama about that. Never was, never will be.
 
Cartman said:
Well, they either dont have enough money... or they can't be bothered to do it. We all know the tracks aren't Michael... so I just don't know the way forward.
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Who is we. Speak for yourself. I believe the exact opposite and many of us do also.

serena williams said:
I mean dominic Cascio HIMSELF confessed that THERE WAS A SECOND VOICE in BN still some fans continue to attack the 3T for saying the truth
Keep being in denial if it make you feel better

You are happy because you are "experiencing" and celebrating the new album
But you know deep inside that your happyness is all about "illusions" because you dont "experience" the REAL MJ you experience a FAKE MJ

I prefer giving up the idea of hearing once again the voice of michael rather than hearing samples of his voice here and there mixed with other FAKE VOICES like other fans are ready to do

Because i am too much a loyal fan too much a fan of integrity to throw my soul the the devil and corrupt as a concequence the legacy of michael

The battle is unfair it is like david and Goliath fighting each other
But i am sure michael is proud of us (against the fake ) and that is the mos important
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Of course there was a second voice. Background vocals. Do you not understand this? And please speak for yourself. I'm not in denial or in a state of "illusion". Down deep inside I know I'm 100% sure it is MJ. I've been a fan for over 25 years, I'ts him, and I am not in denial when it comes to hard core evidence, and common sense and logic. I don't react emotionally to anything. I use my head.

It's not a battle of David and Goliath. AGain, 3T can approach Sony/estate and act like adults. They can view the evidence. But they are not choosing to do so. All they are doing is fighting their battles in tweeter. Funny
 
Jermaine. LMAO. this is getting ridiculous. I bet he wanted to sing those songs himself.


i have to object here...
michael jackson fans not yours!
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this!
 
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lom kit said:
AND they don't give a shit about what fans think and want.
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Well, Michael cared and he had the control. What happened with the control now and with what Michael had wanted?!
 
la_cienega said:
Eddie Cascio and Mike in 2007

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The BG on fbook have said they were there in 2007 when Mike was recording his album.
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:cry: Gorgeous.
 
Tsukiji said:
Jermaine Tweeting about it now

http://twitter.com/jermjackson5
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Halima has money, right? Excellent, hope Jermaine asks to borrow some. He can pay her back with the amount they'll win.

BTW I'm sure if you guys set up a paypal fund for another forensic guy and informed 3T and the Jacksons they'd be really thrilled and would tell everyone to help. I'm absolutely certain what's stopping them is just money.
 
serena williams said:
Because i am too much a loyal fan too much a fan of integrity to throw my soul the the devil and corrupt as a concequence the legacy of michael
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Topflux said:
even though his true fans know very well it's not him. I'm pissed off now.
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So those who want to believe that these are Michael's vocals on these tracks aren't true fans? Who are you to make that judgement? Just because they have different opinions from you doesn't make you anymore a true fan than them. A handful of fans believe it's Michael and another handful believe it's not. It's split. I believe opposite from you and I don't think I am anymore of a fan than you are. This is a crazy time and we are all so confused right now. Many don't even know what to make of it.

Please let me know if I misunderstand those statements...

Cartman said:
We all know the tracks aren't Michael... so I just don't know the way forward.
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There's a different between "knowing" and "believing." None of us "know." It's all speculation and belief. I don't know who this "we all" is but I'm certainly not apart of it.
 
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Topflux said:
Well, Michael cared and he had the control. What happened with the control now and with what Michael had wanted?!
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Michael did care. BUT he didn't have that much control, as you think.
What happened in the last 10 years (on the professional side, not the trial), proves that.
the numerous best of releases, ect, ect.
Michael may wanted to take a break , to raise his childern. to rest from the last 20 years (1979- 1999).
But he also lost control over Sony. thats why, in the last 10 years, nothing really happened.
And the estate is for his financial interest. not for his "legacy", like they say.
 
tricia70 said:
Who is we. Speak for yourself. I believe the exact opposite and many of us do also.



Of course there was a second voice. Background vocals. Do you not understand this? And please speak for yourself. I'm not in denial or in a state of "illusion". Down deep inside I know I'm 100% sure it is MJ. I've been a fan for over 25 years, I'ts him, and I am not in denial when it comes to hard core evidence, and common sense and logic. I don't react emotionally to anything. I use my head.

It's not a battle of David and Goliath. AGain, 3T can approach Sony/estate and act like adults. They can view the evidence. But they are not choosing to do so. All they are doing is fighting their battles in tweeter. Funny
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How can it be 100% michael if (as you recognise ) there is a second voice in the background ( according to you ) trying to imitate the intonations and the voice of michael to make us think that it is michael all along the song :doh:

I mean how a second voice = 100% mj i just dont get it
And by the way the song is not even 40% michael thats my intimate conviction

Its like the Couet method
Close your eyes and Keep repeating yourself "its mj i know its mj its mj i know its definitely mj even the second voice is definitely mj thats the way it is mj "
And remember its not us you have to convince but only yourself




OH JERMAINE is the man :clapping:
 
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I can not believe that this discussion continues. Let's be objective here, please.

1 - Is the Jacksons reliable?
Answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

2- There are evidence (Proof) that the songs are false?
Answer: NO.

3 - Are the Jacksons suing Sony, the Estate or Cascio?
Answer: NO.

4 - Would a flop album be bad for Michael's legacy?
Answer: YES.

If you believe that the songs are true, buy the album.

If you do not believe, do not buy.

But please, stop this mess.

You seem to have two years old.
 
I said this at another board and I am going to say it here. Until someone be it Mrs Jackson be it 3t or whomever hires there own expert to listen to these songs in question or file a lawsuit this issue for me is a dead one. The argument is over and the songs are staying on. Going on and on about it on twitter does nothing. Actions speak louder then words and in this case tweets.
 
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Courtney said:
So those who want to believe that these are Michael's vocals on these tracks aren't true fans? Who are you to make that judgement? Just because they have different opinions from you doesn't make you anymore a true fan than them. A handful of fans believe it's Michael and another handful believe it's not. It's split.

Please let me know if I misunderstand those statements...



There's a different between "knowing" and "believing." None of us "know." It's all speculation and belief. I don't know who this "we all" is but I'm certainly not apart of it.
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I meant with 'true fans' people who have been listening him longer like decades. And are you serious about 'knowing' and 'believing'?! So every time you listen someone singing you just 'believe' it's him/her? That's stupid. It's like 'they say it's Michael so let's just believe it is him'. WTF? Open your ears and you KNOW it is not him.
 
JMie said:
Jermaine. LMAO. this is getting ridiculous. I bet he wanted to sing those songs himself.
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Yeah! :D
I know that Michael obviously forgave his brother for "Word to the Badd" song but after all those twitts I can understand why MJ distanced himself from family.
 
Topflux, seriously, stop with the true fans talk, or I'll report you. I've been listening to Michael for almost 20 years. Is that long enough for you to call me a true fan? Well, to me it's Michael singing that song. Am I a true fan or not now?
 
Justthefacts said:
I said this at another board and I am going to say it here. Until someone be it Mrs Jackson be it 3t or whomever hires there own expert to listen to these songs in question or due something file a lawsuit this issue for me is a dead one. The argument is over and the songs are staying on. Going on and on about it on twitter does nothing. Actions speak louder then words and in this case tweets.
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Thank you I agree the thing I don't understand is that if this is not Michael on the CD then why are the family not taking legal action, I don't know that much about the law but to use Michaels' name and say these songs are his and then use someone else's voice to complete the vocals well I thought it is like fraud trying to deceive the public because initially they didn't say it was someone else, they released for example breaking news as being Michael so I am confused I would be going to court it may be a losing battle but it is better then tweeting it and confusing everyone!!

Because right now I am so cunfused and hurt and worried this will hurt Michael's name in some way and that isn't right at all....this is so unfair!!!
 
Justthefacts said:
I said this at another board and I am going to say it here. Until someone be it Mrs Jackson be it 3t or whomever hires there own expert to listen to these songs in question or due something file a lawsuit this issue for me is a dead one. The argument is over and the songs are staying on. Going on and on about it on twitter does nothing. Actions speak louder then words and in this case tweets.
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I second this but I also want to include the fans who don't believe it's him and aren't doing anything legal about it.
 
JMie said:
Topflux, seriously, stop with the true fans talk, or I'll report you. I've been listening to Michael for almost 20 years. Is that long enough for you to call me a true fan? Well, to me it's Michael singing that song. Am I a true fan or not now?
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i agree, sick of this true fan holier than thou attitude
 
Re: Possible reason 3T & family are against the Cascio track??

lom kit said:
Michael did care. BUT he didn't have that much control, as you think.
What happened in the last 10 years (on the professional side, not the trial), proves that.
the numerous best of releases, ect, ect.
Michael may wanted to take a break , to raise his childern. to rest from the last 20 years (1979- 1999).
But he also lost control over Sony. thats why, in the last 10 years, nothing really happened.
And the estate is for his financial interest. not for his "legacy", like they say.
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You are wrong about the control. He wanted to take a break and he did it. Nothing really happened because Michael wanted it all his way. And believe it or not, I still say you will see who will control.. People will understand when it comes to the light.
 
JMie said:
Jermaine. LMAO. this is getting ridiculous. I bet he wanted to sing those songs himself!
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You bet it's just a matter of time and we'll see Jermaine singing live the new songs from MICHAEL album in few months like he did last month in Las Vegas.
:bugeyed
 
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