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Shana Mangatal is publishing a book on Michael's Birthday 2016

She's really throwing MJ under the bus with her ridiculous lies. Defending MJ my ass.
 
It is strange that she would not just state clearly which things Radar Online included in the recent article were not true, or how they tweaked the actual facts, if that is what she is implying happened.

These women from MJ's past appearing in the news...man...now we have LMP getting divorced from her "soulmate". I remember her describing him as such. I was happy for her. How sad. Can anyone stay happy? I just yesterday googled her which was unusual for me, and noted that she had not had a tabloid article written about her for ages. I thought, "Good for her!" And then today boom. The news is taking off. She seemed so content living in the gorgeous English countryside with her sweet twin girls and, I thought, her very supportive loving husband.

How can any of us know or determine what's really real.
What can be believed anymore? A celebrity's happy marriage? Shana's exploits with a young, attractive Michael Jackson?
 
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It is strange that she would not just state clearly which things Radar Online included in the recent article were not true, or how they tweaked the actual facts, if that is what she is implying happened.

These women from MJ's past appearing in the news...man...now we have LMP getting divorced from her "soulmate". I remember her describing him as such. I was happy for her. How sad. Can anyone stay happy? I just yesterday googled her which was unusual for me, and noted that she had not had a tabloid article written about her for ages. I thought, "Good for her!" And then today boom. The news is taking off. She seemed so content living in the gorgeous English countryside with her sweet twin girls and, I thought, her very supportive loving husband.

How can any of us know or determine what's really real.
What can be believed anymore? A celebrity's happy marriage? Shana's exploits with a young, attractive Michael Jackson?
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IKR, and the divorce happened just a few days after the anniversary of MJ's death.

I don't really care about Lisa like some MJ fans do (in fact, I don't really like her), but this is quite interesting.....
 
^^ Agreed! More self promotion than money as sales can't be great for this garbage.

Trash that sells at least has to be believabl and not insulting to fan's intelligence and not dishonoring of Michael
 
Sorry to say it again, but she's not going to be selling ANY books with this kind of garbage-especially not to Michael's fans. And that's her ONLY audience.
 
I'm a little curious as to why Shana describes herself as an actress when she only has one thing mentioned on IMDb, and that was from awhile ago. That, of course, was her being an extra in Ghost. But if I had only been an extra years ago in something, I don't think I would tell people I'm an actress; I'd probably just say I was an extra in a couple music videos a long time ago (because wasn't she also in someone else's music video besides Michael's Ghost? Although nothing else oddly is listed on her IMDb page).

I don't really like talking badly about her. The whole thing makes me feel sad in a way. A lot of fans are really going off on her and it's not pretty; I can only wonder what she's thinking/feeling when reading posts on the forums. I would like to try to give her the benefit of the doubt...

One thing to keep in mind - sometimes when people tell things from their perspective it is truth to them, but may not be truth to someone else. Her perspective from so many years ago regarding MJ may be way off, but it doesn't mean in her eyes she is intentionally lying to fans. I don't quite have a full handle on her character; I'm not sure yet where she's coming from. People can be really good at justifying their actions and not see themselves as doing anything wrong. Someone can say to someone else, "How can you be doing this!!?" And the person's reply in all sincerity could be, 'What do you mean?"

However, quite a few things aren't looking too good. If this is all based on her being a little bit too much in a dream world about her and Michael and everything surrounding it, I want to go easy on her. But if she knows exactly what she is doing and this is all for more exposure to promote herself in the entertainment business...well...what can be said on her behalf? She might not even know her true motivation and is kidding herself.
 
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I'm a little curious as to why Shana describes herself as an actress when she only has one thing mentioned on IMDb, and that was from awhile ago. That, of course, was her being an extra in Ghost. But if I had only been an extra years ago in something, I don't think I would tell people I'm an actress; I'd probably just say I was an extra in a couple music videos a long time ago (because wasn't she also in someone else's music video besides Michael's Ghost? Although nothing else oddly is listed on her IMDb page).

I don't really like talking badly about her. The whole thing makes me feel sad in a way. A lot of fans are really going off on her and it's not pretty; I can only wonder what she's thinking/feeling when reading posts on the forums. I would like to try to give her the benefit of the doubt...

One thing to keep in mind - sometimes when people tell things from their perspective it is truth to them, but may not be truth to someone else. Her perspective from so many years ago regarding MJ may be way off, but it doesn't mean in her eyes she is intentionally lying to fans. I don't quite have a full handle on her character; I'm not sure yet where she's coming from. People can be really good at justifying their actions and not see themselves as doing anything wrong. Someone can say to someone else, "How can you be doing this!!?" And the person's reply in all sincerity could be, 'What do you mean?"

However, quite a few things aren't looking too good. If this is all based on her being a little bit too much in a dream world about her and Michael and everything surrounding it, I want to go easy on her. But if she knows exactly what she is doing and this is all for more exposure to promote herself in the entertainment business...well...what can be said on her behalf?
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You're so kind. :yes:

I personally don't feel an ounce bad for her.
She knows full and well that people will take ANY information about MJ and run with it like Usain Bolt.
When it comes to MJ all it literally takes is ONE word or sentence to set off a media storm, but she doesn't seem to care, so if MJ fans/stans drag her all I have to say is good on them.
 
Lisha said:
I'm a little curious as to why Shana describes herself as an actress when she only has one thing mentioned on IMDb, and that was from awhile ago. That, of course, was her being an extra in Ghost. But if I had only been an extra years ago in something, I don't think I would tell people I'm an actress; I'd probably just say I was an extra in a couple music videos a long time ago (because wasn't she also in someone else's music video besides Michael's Ghost? Although nothing else oddly is listed on her IMDb page).

I don't really like talking badly about her. The whole thing makes me feel sad in a way. A lot of fans are really going off on her and it's not pretty; I can only wonder what she's thinking/feeling when reading posts on the forums. I would like to try to give her the benefit of the doubt...

One thing to keep in mind - sometimes when people tell things from their perspective it is truth to them, but may not be truth to someone else. Her perspective from so many years ago regarding MJ may be way off, but it doesn't mean in her eyes she is intentionally lying to fans. I don't quite have a full handle on her character; I'm not sure yet where she's coming from. People can be really good at justifying their actions and not see themselves as doing anything wrong. Someone can say to someone else, "How can you be doing this!!?" And the person's reply in all sincerity could be, 'What do you mean?"

However, quite a few things aren't looking too good. If this is all based on her being a little bit too much in a dream world about her and Michael and everything surrounding it, I want to go easy on her. But if she knows exactly what she is doing and this is all for more exposure to promote herself in the entertainment business...well...what can be said on her behalf? She might not even know her true motivation and is kidding herself.
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I think people that are in music videos are still considered actors/actresses. I think it was a big deal that everyone in Captain EO had a SAG card-and I'm sure Michael made sure that people had those kinds of contracts.

What do you mean that people are going off on her? You mean here? Or on her own social media. If here, well, we are discussing it, and she actually opened the door for this.

And believe me, when this was first announced, I didn't have a problem with it. She's a beautiful girl and she certainly had connections to Michael-she had opportunity and why wouldn't Michael have a fling with her? I fell in love with Michael too, back in 1980-and he was gorgeous and yes, I wanted him-I was stuck here in Texas, so I don't blame her for falling for him. BUT, some of the things that she has said border on the tabloid stuff that has been pushed at us for years and that we know is simply not true. Is that how you want the "love of your life" to look? I wouldn't. I wouldn't write a single thing like that.

Unless she just wants publicity for herself, I do not see how this is in any way going to make her any money or help anybody see a different version of Michael.
 
I am convinced that this girl has some personal agenda. She knows what to say and do to make Michael look like a normal human male, (the one that was him) and she is not doing any of it.

She's doing the exact opposite The question fans are asking is why and fans have a tendency to be very defensive of MJ.

I too believe she has every right to fall for him, that much is clearly understood. It also would be easy to see why he (any man) would fall for her. Another no-brainer.

Why dishoner him by:

a: writing a book about him, his name and face on the cover and lie and say its not about him?

Why disregard the fact that he is a private person, and that his fans see him as a private person and feel this is intrusive on behalf of MJ?

Why is she not more honoring of herself, her own personal sense of self-esteem, knowing full well she is not proud of any man telling her she is at the bottom of his list...and that MJ would want her to represent herself at her best but she is not......why?

Why make the world of fans see MJ as a user who would be bonking her and marryig someone else, and bonking her and having kids with someone else? And why in the world would you advertise being in that type of position?

Why cloke exposing his personal life under the guise of love?

Why go to tabloids?

Why not a proper interview with someone who is going to dig deep into her story?

What love of someone's life does this?

It looks like to me she may be having her, "waiting to exhale" catharsis at the expense of MJ's fans, on his birthday no less.

ewwww. yuk.

Its just nasty. It looks nasty, tastes nasty and even fans who love the fantasy are disgusted.

No, she has not earned any benefit of any doubt so far.

She already had that, right off the bat and messed it up....little bit...by little bit ...

First by going on a tv tabloid show when he was still alive (and fighting for his life!)... the rest is just coming to roost.
 
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^ To answer a lot of your "whys" above, I would say they could all fit in the category of "one who is caught up in a dream causing lots of rationalizing on their part". As I said, if that is the case, that would make me go easy on her. It would mean she is not seeing what she is doing, although it is crystal clear to everyone else, nor is she getting how she is coming off. It would mean she feels she is coming from a place with good intentions. That is how she felt, obviously, about her doing that interview on TV. Was her motive pure...maybe not, but she is/was not able to see that.

If she has a personal agenda, and sees everything very clearly with no rationalizing of any of this, then that equals no compassion for the girl, or trying to understand her perspective. Can I get an idea, by the way, of what kind of personal agenda you might be assigning to her? I seem to remember you posting that there may be a surprise. What surprise?

I am not judging her yet by any text included in the ROL articles because I do not yet know if they were truly quotes of her words or not. The last article made her look really bad. But I can't go by that because I don't know what were her words and what were the words of the creative writer-who-has-no-qualms-about-lying-and-who-calls-themself-a-journalist who wrote the story. We know how that rolls.

I will say I was not impressed, well actually a bit turned off, by her own excerpt she herself posted. So that is not a good sign, but I still can't judge anything by what was said in that last article. I can't count on it being an accurate description of things. I don't think that would be fair to do that. I'll have to wait for more to unfold...

barbee0715, I meant all over the net. The discussion here seems rather mild actually. It's been good discussion, your posts included. :) But at other places I have read some rather unkind posts.
 
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Lisha said:
^ To answer a lot of your "whys" above, I would say they could all fit in the category of "one who is caught up in a dream causing lots of rationalizing on their part".
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If being 'caught up in a dream' is her situation, that would speak for itself as to the reality of her story in the first place, would it not? Caught up in a dream? Why would she be? She either has edifying memories to share of MJ, or she does not. If she does, she doesn't have a reason to be 'caught up in a dream' imo
As I said, if that is the case, that would make me go easy on her.
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I have a hard time with someone passing their 'dream' on as fact and charging fans nearly thirty dollars for it.

It would mean she is not seeing what she is doing, although it is crystal clear to everyone else, nor is she getting how she is coming off. It would mean she feels she is coming from a place with good intentions. That is how she felt, obviously, about her doing that interview on TV. Was her motive pure...maybe not, but she is/was not able to see that.
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Ya know, the thing is, since God is actually the only reader of hearts, I can't speculate on her motives beyond the obvious attention seeking (as evidenced by the fact that she did not bother to consult 'the love of her life' or his family or his lawyers) so I can go only go by her actions and her actions say she has every apparent reason to see what she is doing. 1. She works in the industry, a veteran of his former manager's office so she is more sensitized than any on whatever would be correct, "MJ protocol" no less and she is well familiar with the implications of being incorrect, especially careless, publicly, where MJ is concerned. I'm open if you would like to support your supposition.

If she has a personal agenda, and sees everything very clearly with no rationalizing of any of this, then that equals no compassion for the girl, or trying to understand her perspective. Can I get an idea, by the way, of what kind of personal agenda you might be assigning to her?
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I suppose being personal to her its anybody's guess. She may feel jilted by him for all that putting other women first, or if she was just a sexual play thing especially if it was her own efforts that made her that, I can see her being very resentful, or feel the need to "save face" with her mother, or make herself "right" since she left DC to marry MJ and it fell so far short of that, or make all her energy investments pay financially or since so many from her old job, MJ's mgt company if I am correct, have endorsed her book so perhaps it is for them, maybe MJ owes them some money and maybe they all feel he owes them, maybe she just needs the world to know she breathed the same air as MJ
....I seem to remember you posting that there may be a surprise. What surprise?
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What I said was, unless there is a surprise down the road this isn't looking good...like maybe she can prove something for real
I am not judging her yet by any text included in the ROL articles because I do not yet know if they were truly quotes of her words or not.
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I don't really see what difference it makes. Her own words have made MJ look "bad" enough. She even chose to describe his fragrance as "perfume" instead of 'cologne' the latter which is obviously the masculine connotation. There is no excuse except intent to add to the list of things SHE wrote that made him look less than masculine, or a hot blooded male.

The last article made her look really bad. But I can't go by that because I don't know what were her words and what were the words of the creative writer-who-has-no-qualms-about-lying-and-who-calls-themself-a-journalist who wrote the story. We know how that rolls.
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Whatever embellishments they made, she gave them the ground to do so. She also made 0 corrections. What of her intentions about not correcting anything or any one?

I will say I was not impressed, well actually a bit turned off, by her own excerpt she herself posted. So that is not a good sign, but I still can't judge anything by what was said in that last article. I can't count on it being an accurate description of things. I don't think that would be fair to do that. I'll have to wait for more to unfold...
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Its never a good idea to assess anyone's communication based on a third party. That much is clear. The outcry is not what they did or did not write. Its what she gave them to work with. Since she did not bother to correct anything or any one, her complaint about it is hollow and meaningless...oh except that it wasn't just once. So presuming the rest of the article is correct she chose this particular event to share MJ's deepest inner turmoil. Love of his life no, love of her life...NOT ....or. else she would R-E-S-P-E-C-T her man...to hell with all else. Especially tabloids.

Her own actions from beginning to end have created all this analysis of her own actions based on her own actions based on her actions because of her actions after her actions. I hope that was clear.

As for her being an actress, she has done in the distant past walk on parts and small parts according to her social media, apparently not long after she arrived in Hollywood. What happened after that who knows? I noticed that with Tatiana too.

It seems that their burgeoning careers came to a halt as they fixated on MJ. Tatiana, did tsome of the same things in a different way. Wrote a book using part of the MJ song title representing the show she was associated with as the title of the book and swore up and down the book wasn't about him (although its called the way HE made me feel)! Then wrote another one about him.

Ok just figured it out. They think MJ's young or overly imaginative nosey fans are actually stupid.

I don't know if Grace plans on writing one but it might would set a few things straight as the two of them were supposedly friends and according to many reports I'll just say it that way (albeit speculative even her getting in bed with him according to Paris), Grace wanted MJ too... and spent a lot more time around MJ and probably them both.
 
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Shana Mangatal ?@ImShanaMangatal june 28th
Please don't believe anything written in the press.Just like last week's stories, today's stories are all filled with inaccurate info.
Im very upset about an inaccurate tabloid story I was just made aware of. I didn't speak to them so they made up the story on their own.
Seems like they saw some quotes somewhere& then added their own stuff to create a story.They got basic facts wrong.

Shana Mangatal ?@ImShanaMangatal June 26th

Check out this cool #MichaelJackson motorcycle! Had fun meeting MJ's fans today in Glendale. #MJforever #cali
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Personally, I'm sceptical to any book published after MJ's death. Especially if it's book about MJ's private life.
She just wants fame and money, that's all.
 
Even tho I'd like to see the roses, flower arrangements, cards, gifts and posters people leave for Michael, I'd probably never go to Forest lawn on June 25th or 26th.

So many crazy opportunists there. Alan Duke was there again taking movies.
 
Poor Shana, I feel for her:cheeky:

Can you send this to her and ask whether she knows where this "pic" is taken as it looks unreal:giggle:
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^ :hysterical: Makes you wonder about her story of MJ staring at her from across the room but then in reality it was like-

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That prologue is exactly what I expected - an over exaggerated and highly romanticized account of what actually happened; she shook his hand lmao! if that even happened, cause I'm pretty much doubting everything she says..
I was really surprised when she said his skin looked exactly the same as when he was little tho..?! That he had the same skin tone in '88 as when he was a kid and it was only the make up that made him look lighter..? Like, why? :ermm:
 
I kid you not, Shana posted a picture of a BAR OF SOAP, and a picture of a HAT and WATCH from Neverland on Twitter.
But I ain't seen one picture of her and Michael other then the one of her and him on that red backdrop.
This is too funny.:hysterical:
 
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I kid you not, Shana posted a picture of a BAR OF SOAP, and a picture of a HAT and WATCH from Neverland on Twitter.
But I ain't seen one picture of her and Michael other then the one of her and him on that red backdrop.
This is too funny.:hysterical:
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when I saw that it reminded me of how Karen tweeted a picture of soap from Neverland awhile back maybe Shana took her photos :rofl:

She should be embarrassed publishing this book cause if she did have anything with MJ she makes herself look like a booty call to him.
 
Pink Diamond Princess said:
I kid you not, Shana posted a picture of a BAR OF SOAP, and a picture of a HAT and WATCH from Neverland on Twitter.
But I ain't seen one picture of her and Michael other then the one of her and him on that red backdrop.
This is too funny.:hysterical:
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It was probably part of some goodie bag that Michael always prepared for his guests. That or Shana actually took a picture of Michael's soap bar and kept it for 20 years, because that's what girlfriends do -_-
 
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