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Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Teddy Riley might actually believe that the vocals are real, even if they are fake. He says he knows Michael's voice, but just because he's a music producer doesn't mean he has a good ear for voices necessarily.

I'm a non-believer in the Cascio tracks but I'm slow to attack Teddy because the poor guy seems to think he really has been working with genuine MJ vocals.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

That's because he knows he's been given genuine MJ vocals.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

^^ thanks for posting that interview
 
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AnnieRUOkay89 said:
That's because he knows he's been given genuine MJ vocals.
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That's great but I'd like to know why he's so sure. He says he has all the proof he needs, I'll be the first person to put my hands up and say sorry when I see it/hear it.
 
Courtney;3134424 said:
I don't really like how they had to "process" his voice. That doesn't seem natural to me. I understand he's not here to provide new vocals but I'd honestly take a demo that was done completely by Michael Jackson rather than this processing shit done by Riley or any of the other producers who worked on this album. Michael's vocals aren't some kind of computer or toy you can mess with. Give it to us raw and real, even if the demo is crappy. I want to hear Michael Jackson, not some robot.
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^ This :agree:

I don't support verbally attacking anyone,not the producers,much less other fans.That being said,those tracks should have never been released imo.They have caused so much hurt and confusion and what for? To put out some songs in which you have to overproduce the voice to such an extent people doubt their authenticity? It doesn't make any sense.


respect77;3133704 said:
Last week Teddy tweeted the voice was already processed as he got the songs. Now he says he put the Melodyne on it. Something is fishy.
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I had also read about that from other source : Khaliq Glover AKA Khaliq-O-Vision.
P.S. – LET ME BE VERY CLEAR – We did NOT do the vocal editing on Michael Jackson’s song and Teddy did NOT produce this vocal. This was done in 2007 – 2008 and none of the other engineers on our team changed it in any way. We worked with what was given to us, already edited & comped together.
http://isitmichael.com/
http://twitter.com/khaliqovision
 
Selene;3134782 said:
I had also read about that from other source : Khaliq Glover AKA Khaliq-O-Vision.
P.S. – LET ME BE VERY CLEAR – We did NOT do the vocal editing on Michael Jackson’s song and Teddy did NOT produce this vocal. This was done in 2007 – 2008 and none of the other engineers on our team changed it in any way. We worked with what was given to us, already edited & comped together.
http://isitmichael.com/
http://twitter.com/khaliqovision
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Thanks. You have to admit something is simply not 100% right with these songs.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

MJRemixed said:
I think what he actually means is they used melodyne to process the imposter's vocals to try to get them to sound as close to the real Mj as possible.
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this is true.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Thx for sharing!

Cool article..
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

respect77 said:
Thanks. You have to admit something is simply not 100% right with these songs.
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So basically Teddy Riley is saying he edited the vocals, with Melodyne and what not...and this khaliq claims this is not true?
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Ok... So if he had to over produce them to FIT then why can't we hear the vocals before processed? Oo sorry hang on... don't tell me you don't have them. Sorry you deleted them or lost them?

Edit: That website is WRONG. Teddy said the vocals were over produced when he received them. So err... yeah someone is NOT telling the truth. - Check his Twitter. He even said it.
 
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And teddy who now claims that the vocals were a mess and needed a lot of work previously boasted that he completed breaking news in five hours. So which story is true teddy?
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Again as we all have repeated multiple times enough with the name calling and respect each other. More and more infractions are being given out now because of this all and consistant offenders who continue to ignore this will be issued bannings. There is debate which is all well and good and there is childish name calling. Calling people names because they do not agree with your opinion is childish. You're all adults here. Its time to start acting like adults.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Dark Artist said:
That's great but I'd like to know why he's so sure. He says he has all the proof he needs, I'll be the first person to put my hands up and say sorry when I see it/hear it.
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The Estate and Sony have provided a statement that the tracks are genuine. You choose not to believe it. Therefore, you need to hire a lawyer and file a lawsuit. You have been defrauded because you were sold tracks that were not Michael Jackson. Best of luck.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

MusicMan26 said:
I use Melodyne all the time and just moving notes up and down doesn't change the vibrato.
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No but you can add a computerised vibrato which is the same thing that Jason Malachi does, hence why they sound similar in the Cascio tracks.
BTW to all those who think they can use Melodyne to make someone sound like someone else, your wrong, thats not how the product works, it can change everything EXCEPT the accent of the singer, the pronunciation of words and the little ticks and tocks of Michael's voice
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Dark Artist said:
Teddy Riley might actually believe that the vocals are real, even if they are fake. He says he knows Michael's voice, but just because he's a music producer doesn't mean he has a good ear for voices necessarily.

I'm a non-believer in the Cascio tracks but I'm slow to attack Teddy because the poor guy seems to think he really has been working with genuine MJ vocals.
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Dear Mr. excellent sir.

Riley worked in the studio with MJ for decades. It is absurd, err, I mean, it is in error to suggest that he might not know vocals, let alone Michael's.

I find it amusing...wait...can I be amused by something someone says, anymore???

Hmmm...how about this: I don't understand how fans can assume they knew MJ better than those who actually knew him.

Whenever someone comes along in defense or support of something some fans disagree with that person is instantly labeled a liar, or a fool, or an idiot, etc.

Yes, ,any of these people were MJ's friends.

If you, or any other person who is anti-Riley, were in a room with MJ and Riley and started insulting and attacking Riley, what do you think MJ would do?

He would call security and have YOU hauled out and thrown on your butt.

Oh, and for those of you who have insulted Quincy Jones in the past, understand this: There would have been on OTW or Thriller without Q.Jones. If you think MJ would have pulled off those albums alone you are sadly mistaken.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

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This just sums up how i feel about the whole situation
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Michael's "family" have really fucked everything up!!!!!!!

........I trust Teddy more then any of Michael's Siblings or Parents.........

........Teddy never signed a contract with some random internet porn dude and starts selling unauthorised Michael Jackson merchandise..........

........Teddy never sells stories about Michael........

........Teddy never put Michael's children on a show that stabbed Michael in the back......

........Teddy never tried to claim millions out of him............

........Teddy never beat Michael and call him names..........

........Teddy never recorded a song that is just an attempt to insult Michael........

That might all sound ludicrous, but that's what the "family" have done (and much more)!!!!!





Now back to the album...........

.........Doesn't that much processing of vocals borderline with Auto-Tuning?????
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

OK, Teddy/Estate/Sony, why not let us hear the original material you "enhanced"

Then we can stop thinking the vocals are fake, right?!
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

czechstar said:
OK, Teddy/Estate/Sony, why not let us hear the original material you "enhanced"

Then we can stop thinking the vocals are fake, right?!
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This. Just show us the original material and then i'll be more than happy to admit i was wrong about the vocals being fake
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Krshna28 said:
Michael's "family" have really fucked everything up!!!!!!!

........I trust Teddy more then any of Michael's Siblings or Parents.........

........Teddy never signed a contract with some random internet porn dude and starts selling unauthorised Michael Jackson merchandise..........

........Teddy never sells stories about Michael........

........Teddy never put Michael's children on a show that stabbed Michael in the back......

........Teddy never tried to claim millions out of him............

........Teddy never beat Michael and call him names..........

........Teddy never recorded a song that is just an attempt to insult Michael........

That might all sound ludicrous, but that's what the "family" have done (and much more)!!!!!





Now back to the album...........

.........Doesn't that much processing of vocals borderline with Auto-Tuning?????
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I like you and I applaud your post
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

czechstar said:
OK, Teddy/Estate/Sony, why not let us hear the original material you "enhanced"

Then we can stop thinking the vocals are fake, right?!
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Very simple. Won't happen though.
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

Prove every doubter wrong, just release some of MJ singing the songs. Simple.

It would end this once and for all... or...?
 
Re: Teddy Riley explains why MJ sounds different on some of the tracks

KOPV said:
Ok you guys get handed MJ music that has bad sound to it.. you have 2 choices to leave as is and release it with poor sound which could not sell as a lagitimate album piece or try to make the sound as clear as possible..

Its 100% understandable.. and to be honest after looking at the studio that the Cascios have on Oprah I can tell you I could see why there had to be alot of work.. It definatly seems like michael would only record demos there.. the recording booth did not have any sound breakers at all.. that is NEEDED in a recording booth to block outside noises and for the microphone to get the clearest sound possible of the vocals..
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Oh, I beg to disagree.
First of all, this album was not an obligation, but a choice. They choose making this album and so, they are responsible for this mess. If there were no other songs, maybe I could understand them a bit, but fact is we have heard several unreleased songs that are not simply good, but are GREAT and all of those, EACH one of those is clearly Michael Jackson and there is no single question about that.

If the Cascio tracks were sooooo bad and so on... why using them in this album being this album SO important as it is the first they release? It's time to accept they made a mess and many mistakes. There was no urgency for this. The Cascio tracks could have been included as unfinished demos and still be in some "deluxe" version. Or they could have simply wait to make a better job. But comming now and saying "I am sorry for the confussion" is simply sooooo out of place :doh:

I think they should have done a better job in many respects, starting from promotion. Also engineering, sound, etc. If the Cascio tracks were such a bad raw material, why using them at all?

I just don't get it. And the more excuses they give, the harder it is to understand.
 
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