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lilsusie said:
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At that time when THE SUN reported MJ told fan he didn't want to do 50shows and the fan posted the same thing here, everyone here said they lied. I raised my concern and all my posts got deleted! :cry:
If he hadnt died from all the injustice and mishandling by the vultures, I wouldnt have been this depress and sad! :cry: :cry:
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It didnt help that talking about MJ's health then was nearly a banable offence.
 
MJJ7777 said:
Shame.

I just took a look at that old thread...

Sometimes fans will come in here and say something against status-quo and they're already good enough to have their heads chopped off.

I understand some fans were being protective of Michael's image as there were already tabloid journalists saying similar things which repeatedly kept on being denied.
Then there were fans that were ACTAUALLY there and saw for themselves firsthand what was going on...

How was anyone supposed to know who was telling truth? I

I don't think its anyones fault. No One did anything wrong. We are all victims in this deceit.
In the end , everyone did what they knew to be right but whatever happened, happened anyways.

But I still don't get fans that still persist in bashing the follower fans, they are the closest thing to the truth for now IMHO.
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I always choose to trust an eye witness, who also has no motive for lying.
 
Cris123 said:
FF are now again disgusted by the TII crew and issued another statement about the DVD release on their FB. Kenny and Travis had no shame, dancing on his grave like that in NYC on the 25!! To promote their blood movie!

Let me ask you this. If Kenny and other TII staff didn't see the signs, and Michael was completely happy, willing, able, etc and they suddenly heard the news, what would be their first words? Certainly not going to another crew member out of the blue and saying "we lost him" and expect to be understood immediately? As if they surely feared that? What not say "omg, this is unbelievable, something terrible happened and we don't understand why" Think about it!!! It was all under their eyes and they did what??? And now smile and promote themselves and dance?? And shed crocodile tears? Kenny used to yell at Michael at rehearsals and Michael had no choice, was trapped. What a friend!!
And all the fans praising and putting this snake on a piedestal!!!

Sorry, I had to vent a bit, I'm just too upset
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I too noticed that some people seemed very happy at the premiere of the TII film, and thought that under the circumstances it was disrespectful. I haven't seen footage of the DVD launch yet.
OK, so they want to celebrate MJs work, but....
 
slimblonde2 said:
I too noticed that some people seemed very happy at the premiere of the TII film, and thought that under the circumstances it was disrespectful. I haven't seen footage of the DVD launch yet.
OK, so they want to celebrate MJs work, but....
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Yeah, there are celebrating all the way to the bank!
They were very disrespectful and obvious to me! Just a little to happy.... to be making all that money.
 
OK, now I feel guilty again for watching the movie and bying the dvd...
but I need to archive it and watch for every tiny bit of clue! because aside from the follower fans who DID try to warn us, TII is Mike's testimonial of what was about to happen.
I'm not done with crying,that's for sure.
 
I've just read the entire thread & am sick to my stomach.
Why would so members of this forum be so harsh to the fan followers?
I don't get it. :( WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?!?
 
Wow. I just went and read that old thread and how very sad!!
Not just for the FF but what if Mike did come here and read stuff? What if he was in trouble and read all the fans saying it was BS! It would have broken his heart. I pray he never saw it.
 
Don't forget, FF set up their own forum to discuss Michael death - the TINI forum. There are many MJ forum's and most have similar discussions about the investigations as we do here. If the FF were to answer questions on every board, they'd be there forever & a day so they discuss it on their own board. Perhaps it would be better to sign up to the TINI forum to discuss what they saw?
 
I think the TINI forum went down, they are only on FB.
I feel I owe these guys. Although I am not a FB user I think I'll pay them a visit just to express my sorrow and respect to them.
 
Cris123 said:
FF are now again disgusted by the TII crew and issued another statement about the DVD release on their FB. Kenny and Travis had no shame, dancing on his grave like that in NYC on the 25!! To promote their blood movie!

Let me ask you this. If Kenny and other TII staff didn't see the signs, and Michael was completely happy, willing, able, etc and they suddenly heard the news, what would be their first words? Certainly not going to another crew member out of the blue and saying "we lost him" and expect to be understood immediately? As if they surely feared that? What not say "omg, this is unbelievable, something terrible happened and we don't understand why" Think about it!!! It was all under their eyes and they did what??? And now smile and promote themselves and dance?? And shed crocodile tears? Kenny used to yell at Michael at rehearsals and Michael had no choice, was trapped. What a friend!!
And all the fans praising and putting this snake on a piedestal!!!
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Kenny is being quite arsey and mean with fans on his Twitter now.
 
Hines sight is 20/20 unfortunately and it must be so frustrating for them knowing they were trying back then and for good reason too. And then the worst actually happens.
 
Very sad over the Follower Fans.Very sad.
I can only imagine how they feel.
That's why I extend a friendly hand to them.What they went through will haunt them for life.
 
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There is a new testimony up on TINI Facebook... this time from someone called Erika.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...l-conditions-in-dec-2008jan-2009/284491066949

ERIKA'S TESTIMONY

I've decided to join and support the TINI Campaign because I've been a Michael Jackson's follower for years, just like Sandy, Marika, Talin and Samantha (and all of those who haven't testified yet) and now I want the truth to come out!

Here's my testimony:

For more than 20 years, I've followed Michael with passion, devotion and endless love. I met him more than once, even in quiet and relaxed places like hotel rooms. I also met him (with no more than other 4 people) at his Neverland's Ranch.
So I may tell you whether Michael was under the effects of prescription drugs or not.
Most of his followers know that he was addicted to some pain-killers after going thru some diseases and surgical operations, such as the one he faced after the horrific accident that lead to his hair catching on fire during the filming of a Pepsi commercial back in 1984.

I don't know how and when he got addicted, but I can affirm for sure that all of his personnel was aware of this situation and some of them also knew that some of his enablers mixed many of these drugs very dangerously and superficially.

In the past, whenever I met Michael, it was because he really wanted it and it was his own decision...
However, in he last few months, his security had become very strict and in my opinion too protective!

This happened inside a hotel in London, in March 2007. Michael was walking thru the crowd because he wished he could see the painting I had done for him, but he didn't succeed and went back into his room.

Finally, he sent two of his bodyguards to get my work but after my experience with this, I told them I
wished I could give it to him personally. In doing so, I hoped they would allow me to go to his room upon his approval, but they decided not to ask him and told me it was not possible.

I didn't surrend and in December 2008, I decided to leave to LA to try again. I know for sure that Michael has always appreciated all of the paintings I did for him, especially the last one I wanted to give him on 2007, but after thinking what happened in London the previous year, I decided to bring it to him personally.

After spending 10 days in front of his house uselessly, trying to see him and get the chance to bring him some of our letters personally, some of us decided to follow him at Klein's dermatologist studio.

We succeeded in having some chats with him, but nothing compared to mine past experiences. I realized that he wasn't the same person I used to know. We saw him in a bookstore, concentrated on some books to buy, but when he noticed we were there too, he recognized us and coming towards us said: "Nice to see you"!
Very strange to say, he repeated it at least 3 times in a couple of minutes, as if he was a broken vinyl.

Michael has never been a huge man but in the last few months preceding his death, he was too thin and just that period I had the chance to hug him and realized the difference!

I am really sure of what I am saying here because when I met him during the trial on June 13th, 2005, he was sad and fragile but nothing compared to December 2008, when he was even thinner!!!

Finally, on the evening of January 4th, 2009, Michael noticed the painting, I was showing in front of his house in LA. After a while, his bodyguards came to me, but once again I told them I would have liked to give it to him personally but they said no, without asking him neither!
Unfortunately, that day was my last day in LA because I had to go back home.

Now, do you want to know what's my personal opinion? Well, I believe that Michael died because
of the tour and Doctor Murray is just the tip of of the iceberg.

Many times, in life it's not easy to understand things without experiencing them personally and some people think he would have died anyway on stage, without thinking for a single moment, he could have been saved if someone had really wanted to.

He couldn't perform 50 shows but he needed to heal and gain some weight immediately.

Michael was a man, a human being, a father But NOT a robot !!!

Too little time to get prepared for such a venture and for a perfectionist as he was, one who wanted to give all his best at 100%. So it was impossible to achieve all of that.

I strongly believe there was a conspiracy. If you want to kill someone and make people believe it's just fate, you hit that person on its weak spots: his fragile state and his addiction to prescriptive drugs.

Something that could lead some people to believe he just wanted to kill himself...

I'd like to report what Michael said on a phone conversation with Cory Rooney (an important music producer) in 2001:

MJ: "Cory, I can´t tour anymore. I´m not gonna tour anymore. Ok?"
CR: "Why Mike?",
MJ "Because it will kill me."
CR: That´s what he said to me. He said, "It will kill me."
"Why would you say something like that?"
MJ: "Well, remember when I was preparing for my concert and I passed out at the Sony Studio?"
"Well, it´s because when I get ready for a tour I get dehydrated. I don´t eat. I don´t drink. I don't sleep. I put so much of myself into preparing for a tour. I´m not doing it on purpose. This is just something I don´t think about anymore. You understand? I´ve just become so driven that I can´t even
think about these things anymore. They made me walk around with an IV last time. So I just decided, my doctors decided that maybe you shouldn´t do this anymore."
CR: He said he wanted to make the Invincible album work to the point where that was it. He´s done with the tour.He´s gonna do this Invincible album. He wanted to continue to put out albums. He said, "I´ll do albums till I can´t do it anymore, but I just can´t tour."
(Source: http://www.thesportsinterview.com/mjackson.html)

Since we, either followers or all the other fans, haven't been able to avoid this tragedy, Now we want to fight for the truth.

When you love someone, you can't just see his strengths, but you must see his weaknesses too and go deep into the problem.
Searching for the truth, it doesn't mean that we want to tarnish his name or his talent but, on the contrary, it means that we want to let the world know what we lost because of some greedy and selfish people.

That's why WE ASK FOR JUSTICE>>!!!

Erika
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Thanks for posting that bowen. Yeah, the followers have no reason at all to lie.
I feel so sad and sick that so many people would rather believe the lying spin doctors instead of people who truely loved Michael!
 
bowen9999, thank you for posting. Another eye-witness testimony, another confirmation of what was really going on.
 
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