The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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OMG what is the deal with the white murray? ..I cant remember what the black murrays real name is, I read it a few days ago either here or on the hoax site..
and is it true that there is no history of dr. murrays (the black one) working as a doctor earlier than 2009?

There is something very weird going on.. And I agree with you guys, I want some closure!! :(

There is not much history at all on Murray before 09. Most of the history belongs to Robert Earl Carter. All details online state Murray doesnt have a current medical license anyway!
 
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There is no "white" Murray...and Michael Jackson is dead. The autopsy report just verified that in my mind. There is no "hoax".
 
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There is no "white" Murray...and Michael Jackson is dead. The autopsy report just verified that in my mind. There is no "hoax".


Most of us in this thread realise that something still isnt right as there are WAY too many oddities that have gone on since MJ has passed that dont fit into any other category. Even after the autopsy report came out, there were still inconsistencies happening in court and in the autopsy report. We're not going to stop examining the oddities just because we know that MJ isnt alive. These oddities may open a door one day and be the key that puts the whole puzzle together. It's not doing any harm. In fact its doing good.
 
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Some of you may remember me showing in a post that Murray doesnt actually work where he claims to work and also where TMZ have shown Murray arriving to 'work'. I also showed on Google Maps (Street View) that the building looks abandoned. Well it is and here is video to prove it:
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Great job to the fans who actually went to the clinic.
 
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I know where you guys are coming from regarding the autopsy.

My opinion of this whole situation is more so the oddities that have happened since MJs death. There are still MANY things that dont add up. Does that mean cover up? Maybe but some of the oddities dont make sense for a cover up. To be honest, nothing at all makes sense. Why is everything the polar opposite to who it should be?

I feel the same. But there are so many weird things surrounding Michael's death. If not hoax, perhaps conspiracy? Unfortunately, a person can only be tried for a crime once. So even if we uncover more about Murray, I don't think he will ever be charged with anything more than manslaughter. But I think we should keep looking in to all of this weird stuff. Perhaps we will uncover something important. Excellent work Dangerous Incorporated!
 
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"you know how i feel, i wont stop until, i hear his voice saying it's true"
 
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Ive never seen a judge have this much crap on their desk:
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Here is the video of Murray going to 'work' in November:
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Looks staged to me.
 
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somethin struck me when i heard that murrays next court date is April 5, i remember someone posted a convo with the BlackorWhite person on the hoax site, and he said that MJ is hiding and he will be back on the 4th of april (the day Martin Luther King) made his speech. I dont know wher BoW is getting his info or if its reliable at all, but he also pointed out that the part of HIStory used in the TDCAU in TII was MLK giving his speech and saying that it will be the greatest demonstration of freedom. hmmmmm. Any thoughts on that??
 
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Easter also falls on April 4 2010 = Resurrection!
 
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O LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORD!! wat do u think about that?
 
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  • In 2010, Easter will fall on April 04, and Martin Luther King was assassinated on April 4 1968. ("In what will go down in History as the greatest demonstration for freedom ... ") The quote from MLK was featured on the song HIStory as well as the song They Dont Care About Us (Live @ TII). TDCAU (Live @ TII) was the video that was circulated to the media days after MJ's passing.

Kenny Ortega described on his twitter account, a scene from Peter Pan:
Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out, and the flowers are all in bloom... Captain Hook: He's back

This is the description of the season spring!

The months of Spring are March, April, May.

Spring is also the season of birth, creation, life and L.O.V.E.
 
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ok my jaw just dropped, im speechless... but wat do u personally think about this??
 
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Both my wife and I have both said that there can only be so many coincidences. I dont know what to make of it all.

BTW I have received 2 emails from 2 different people that confirmed from FL that MJ IS at FL Glendale.
 
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Both my wife and I have both said that there can only be so many coincidences. I dont know what to make of it all.

BTW I have received 2 emails from 2 different people that confirmed from FL that MJ IS at FL Glendale.

well of course they said that!! gosh i dont wanna sound crazzzzzzzy but like u said there can only so many coincidences. of course the workers are gonna say hes there, how much would they know? i rly dont wana sound crazy but we have got to figure this thing outtt!
 
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im reading it,, but i thot the judge on monday was a male???? atleast the one i saw in the tmz feed was a male, with a beard and everything!! am i understanding wrong??
 
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^^Yes this is a different case with another Dr called Murray who is also charged with involuntary manslaughter.
 
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rafflesvanexel I drinks with a mystery guest last night, and
Boy o Boy did he had alot to say. Would luv 2 interview him, this would shock the WORLD


rafflesvanexel Larry King,Barbara Walters and Oprah have
asked him on there shows and for a sit down.Might be a long shot but only we the Fans could profit


rafflesvanexel That's why I'm hoping that he will talk to US.
With questions from the FANS, and I think he's ready to talk


rafflesvanexel Once again keep on following us, we will call
upon U ALL for the questions again. LOVE, keep MJ's Legacy alive


rafflesvanexel I would LOVE to interview this person. If this
person talks on camera only 10% of like he talked last night, we will go worlds/ network 1st



Who is he talking about?
 
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o wow definitely didnt read the date on that before reading it.. i swear this has gotten way out of hand!!!! will we ever figure this thing out??
 
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rafflesvanexel I drinks with a mystery guest last night, and
Boy o Boy did he had alot to say. Would luv 2 interview him, this would shock the WORLD


rafflesvanexel Larry King,Barbara Walters and Oprah have
asked him on there shows and for a sit down.Might be a long shot but only we the Fans could profit


rafflesvanexel That's why I'm hoping that he will talk to US.
With questions from the FANS, and I think he's ready to talk


rafflesvanexel Once again keep on following us, we will call
upon U ALL for the questions again. LOVE, keep MJ's Legacy alive


rafflesvanexel I would LOVE to interview this person. If this
person talks on camera only 10% of like he talked last night, we will go worlds/ network 1st



Who is he talking about?

who is rafflesvanexel
 
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rafflesvanexel I drinks with a mystery guest last night, and
Boy o Boy did he had alot to say. Would luv 2 interview him, this would shock the WORLD


rafflesvanexel Larry King,Barbara Walters and Oprah have
asked him on there shows and for a sit down.Might be a long shot but only we the Fans could profit


rafflesvanexel That's why I'm hoping that he will talk to US.
With questions from the FANS, and I think he's ready to talk


rafflesvanexel Once again keep on following us, we will call
upon U ALL for the questions again. LOVE, keep MJ's Legacy alive


rafflesvanexel I would LOVE to interview this person. If this
person talks on camera only 10% of like he talked last night, we will go worlds/ network 1st


Who is he talking about?

lol I hate mysterious messages like this that revive that tiny glimmer of hope inside of me.
I guess we just have to wait and see.
It can only be someone with alot of answers.
 
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This is from the Larry King Live blog. Very interesting points about a legal and legit autopsy.

February 9th, 2010 10:42 pm ET

@truth4mj February 9th, 2010 10:35 pm ET

@All

I hardly ever post anything anymore but I am a medical transcriptionist and I can assure you the autopsy report listed online is not legally authentic. I have transcribed 1000s of these reports over the last 25 years and fully understand the legalities of these reports and their confidentiality when they are to be used in a criminal trial. The information contained in the autopsy that is posted online goes far beyond what is standard or customary which is unexplainable and only lends itself to more incredibility. There is also the use of three different names included on the autopsy, consults, toxicology and neuropathological testing: Michael Jackson, Michael J. Jackson, Michael Joseph Jackson, all under the same file name and case number. That is not standard and constitutes inconsistencies that point to its invalidity for the entire record. In addition to its unauthenticity the information regarding the neuropathological testing cannot be true as it is stated. The time lines reflected in those sections also grossly contradict the storyline that was reported by the media who said they got their information from the coroner. Autopsy reports are highly confidential documents when the information contained in them is to be used in a criminal trial. That is all I had to say.
 
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So they used three diff names for Michael in one document???

Can anyone that can bear verify this? I told myself I would never look at that report ever again. Too much.
 
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honestly... do they think we're stupid??
 
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http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla

  1. So now it is all out there for all to see. about 13 hours ago from TwitBird iPhone
Is that professional?

If you check the link below you can see that someone asked whether it was smart to release the autopsy report re: strategy.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...r&btnG=Search&cts=1265783159509&aq=f&aqi=&oq=
@chiefcoronerla Way would this key piece of evidence be released to the world in advance of a trial? Doesn't make any sense re: strategy

MissLoriAnne - twitter.com - 10 hours ago
 
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Ok so Ive just heard this as a theory.

So it's been questioned a few times is it Michael Joe or Joseph. It was also explained by a member here (sorry I forget your name) that MJ had 2 social security numbers to guard against security theft.

Michael Joe Jackson was tried & acquitted in court in 2005.
Michael Joe Jackson is on MJ's passport.
Michael Joe Jackson is on MJ's drivers license.
Everything we've seen in the media in relation to MJ's 'death' has Michael JOSEPH Jackson (King of Pop).

Which name was on the DA's website today? The King of Pop...

Dr. Conrad Robert Murray, 56 (dob 2-19-1953), was charged in case No. SA073164, filed at the Airport Branch of Los Angeles Superior Court. The count alleged that Murray “ did unlawfully, and without malice, kill Michael Joseph Jackson…in the commission of an unlawful act, not amounting to a felony; and in the commission of a lawful act which might have produced death, in an unlawful manner, and without due caution and circumspection.”

This is all about the King of Pop, not Michael Jackson.

About the social security number.

After doing a search you get these results:

JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH

SSN: 303-62-5728
Birth: 29 Aug 1958
Death: 25 Jun 2009
You even can ask for a copy.
MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON 29 Aug 1958 25 Jun 2009 (P) (California) (none specified) 303-62-5728 Indiana SS-5 Letter
Add Post-em
Search Ancestry.com

P=(Proof) Death Certificate Observed.

Please keep in mind that they had to use a social security number. And that the Social Security Death Index is based on Death Master File, a database used to prevent fraud so that no one can steal the identity of a dead person, and take out a credit card or a bank loan in a dead person's name.
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Joseph not Joe!
 
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i dont understand how u found his ss??
 
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