Of course the kids were her target the whole ''omg this is so big,/huge'' was about the kids. it were the kids that made this interview big, I mean come on, Katherine's producing a dozen of interviews with her porn pal, even her 'first' interview since Michael's death (around his first anniversary in june) didn't garner as much attention as the Oprah one did.
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Of course, and if Michael were here we know that there would never have been an interview with his Kids. For Oprah it's all about $, Ratings and portraying herself as being able to get the 'exclusive' interviews. It was all about the kids, and Katherine just handed them over to Oprah for the interview, a couple years ago I would have been shocked if Katherine allowed it, but now, I really am not judging from her actions.
Exactly that showed that by common sense anyone could think "Michael wouldn't want his kids to be interviewed"
However I really do not think we can blame Oprah for this. As she said she's a professional interviewer and this is her business (ratings that is). If someone gives her an exclusive she's going to take it - that's the logical thing to do business wise.
so not Oprah but someone else from the family should have said "Michael wouldn't want this" and wouldn't let it happen.
that's my understanding as well.
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The bolded is crucial. Oprah was allowed to enter the house and make the interview, so we have to attach the initial blame to someone from that house. At the same time Ivy, years ago I heard Oprah say there are some interviews she would not do. If she can make such a decision, based on some criteria, then she could make that decision with the kids too. She, therefore, cannot hide behind the "I am an interviewer/this is my job" rationale. She could have asked Katherine to give her the first interview when the kids come of age, etc. She owns her own show and has a significant number of decision making power. However, I agree with you and I think she also must share in the blame.
but what was her criteria? she interviewed children before and there's nothing technically wrong with interviewing the kids other than "MJ wouldn't want it".
If Michael was here the kids would have never been interviewed. They all know that but it was allowed anyways. I know that it's not easy raising someone else's children but sometimes I wonder if they really respect Michael as a parent and his wishes. When the kids are adults that is a different story. They can make those decisions.
Do the grandkids call Joe grandpa? It's funny because he would not let his own children call him dad.
Do the grandkids call Joe grandpa? It's funny because he would not let his own children call him dad.
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That was my thinking too, and I'm very glad they didn't go there or at least didn't air that segment. If she was going to talk about it to elicit sympathy, it would have definitely backfired. Most people can't relate to complaints about "only" getting 26K a month, especially when major expenses don't have to be taken care of out of that money.
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The bolded part.....of course we can blame Oprah..she knew good and well that Michael would of HATED her interviewing his children..and like the gutless pig that she is ..she went in for the kill and did exactly what it was she KNEW that he would hate. Its like stepping on his grave if you ask me and holding her middle finger up at him and say F_YOU. I am gonna do just what you wouldn't want me to do. We all know that she never cared how she made Michael feel....now that he is not here..she had to get the last cheap shot in at him...and what better way to do it than to interview his children.
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about her wanting to talk about her finances,.. for real? How pitiful! What exactly did she hope to get out of it? Beg ppl to take care of her tribe? Seriously SMDH, she should back up and stop going overboard, or else her actions are only coming back to bite her (especially the association with porn pal) I have never ever seen an 80 something year old woman act like this before. NEVER. The behavior displayed is getting obnoxious to say the least. Thanks God the nonsense wasn't aired/discussed whatever.
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Prince sounded so mature when he was talking about his first day of school..."cookies or something like that" lol
Paris was so cute drinking the lemonade.
Blanket was adorable.
Paris was so cute drinking the lemonade.
Blanket was adorable.
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Prince sounded so mature when he was talking about his first day of school..."cookies or something like that" lol
Paris was so cute drinking the lemonade.
Blanket was adorable.
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Thanks for posting that video. That part was missing from the video that I watched yesterday.
Katherine never should have allowed the kids to be interviewed. When offered an interview with the kids, Oprah should have respected Michael's wishes and declined.
It's not that the interview was bad. The interview was fine. But, typically in an "interview" situation, each party gets something. The person being interviewed gets to promote themselves or their work, or just get a message out. The interviewer hopes to get viewers and advertising dollars.
We know that Katherine got an opportunity to promote her book, and Oprah got a "big" interview, which was sure to get a lot of viewers. What did Michael's kids get out of this? Did it seem like the boys were excited to talk about their personal lives on tv? I didn't get that impression.
I really hope that the kids realize that the interviews they give are very valuable. They should know that they can decide who interviews them and what questions will be asked. And, the kids should understand that they are entitled to get something out of the arrangement. For instance, they can use the opportunity to talk about a cause or charity that's important to them.
Katherine never should have allowed the kids to be interviewed. When offered an interview with the kids, Oprah should have respected Michael's wishes and declined.
It's not that the interview was bad. The interview was fine. But, typically in an "interview" situation, each party gets something. The person being interviewed gets to promote themselves or their work, or just get a message out. The interviewer hopes to get viewers and advertising dollars.
We know that Katherine got an opportunity to promote her book, and Oprah got a "big" interview, which was sure to get a lot of viewers. What did Michael's kids get out of this? Did it seem like the boys were excited to talk about their personal lives on tv? I didn't get that impression.
I really hope that the kids realize that the interviews they give are very valuable. They should know that they can decide who interviews them and what questions will be asked. And, the kids should understand that they are entitled to get something out of the arrangement. For instance, they can use the opportunity to talk about a cause or charity that's important to them.
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he really does. also..Blanket looked very uncomfortable in that interview....shame on Katherine for putting an 8 year old on public display.
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well 47 years ago she put a 5 year old on display and allowed his daddy to beat him while he sang and danced his little butt off. Katherine doesn't care
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WTF did she want proof? That she did the right thing intervewing Michael's children...
I don't freaking get those behind the scenes honestly! No matter what she does, that intervew was completly fishy, shameless and a clear desperation for getting high raitings.
I don't freaking get those behind the scenes honestly! No matter what she does, that intervew was completly fishy, shameless and a clear desperation for getting high raitings.
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It took several months to land interview with Katherine because of MJJ's kids, not for Katherine. It is obvious that Katherine was advertising her book on the show, but having kids there was Oprah's idea. I wish I can find the article online where Oprah said that she got the phone call from Katherine team for interview, "but I wanted MJJ's children in".
Second, I read that Katherine spoke about finance with Oprah "that she didn't receive a penny".
source:
http://scoop.todayshow.com/_news/20...n-hasnt-received-a-penny-from-michaels-estate
It is possible that Oprah omitted airing " money - estate- talk " on her show, maybe she is saving that segment for another sequel...or maybe the money-talk never happened.
Second, I read that Katherine spoke about finance with Oprah "that she didn't receive a penny".
source:
http://scoop.todayshow.com/_news/20...n-hasnt-received-a-penny-from-michaels-estate
It is possible that Oprah omitted airing " money - estate- talk " on her show, maybe she is saving that segment for another sequel...or maybe the money-talk never happened.
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The kids need to be kids, this is going to be a tough couple of months for them with the trial coming up. I still don't agree with them having been interviewd, especially Blanket, but they're wonderful kids and Michael would be very proud of them.
Very true, she didnt care then and cares even less now.
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this aint on youtube yet? lol
I found this at lipstick alley, apparently came from Oprah's website- posted by resaformj & thought it was a great post:
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/o...25-ppb-katherine-interview-279444/index8.html
This insightful comment was left on Oprah's website.
The business of O is to get the BIG interview and to get the interviewee(s) into territory where the BIG and ratings-rich questions will be explored. Oprah was once seen as America's trustworthy, compassionate, forthright, supportive best friend. Now she is O, fountainhead of OWN, engaged with other 5-star generals in ratings warfare with one objective -- to WIN.
The key factor in The Jackson Family interview is, oddly enough, NOT the family at all but Michael Jackson. Mother Katherine, Father Joe and Jackson's young children are interesting only as they relate to and claim intimacy in the life of Michael Jackson, deceased. And they are useful to O only as a portal through which Michael Jackson can once again be invasively probed.
I was struck by the O-team's focus on "Will the molestation charges be explored and will Jackson's children appear and speak with Oprah?" To her staff, Oprah spoke dismissively and rather contemptuously of Joe Jackson's presence, yet she masterfully seized the moment to question Joe about the physical abuse of his children "which your own son, Michael, openly discussed." So, I guess Joe's unwelcome presence wasn't a total loss.
It should be remembered that the Jackson Family interview and Lisa Marie Presley (Jackson's first wife) interview were scheduled closely following or in the midst of other Oprah shows about child molestation. Yes, I've heard "coincidence" as an explanation for the scheduling. A more accurate word is "strategic." Ms. Winfrey's scheduling places Michael Jackson's name squarely where she feels it belongs -- in a child predator environment where her audience will forever link it and remember it. The move was calculated and very effective.
It is painful to watch the Jacksons unwittingly fall into every trap set for them by media moguls like Winfrey and others. The Jacksons are nice people, by and large, but lack the savvy required to maneuver the media killing fields or to counter the tactics used by interviewers in pursuit of a desired result. After being thoroughly oiled, reassured and soothed with flattery, they are skillfully guided into perilous territory by those who want to cast Michael Jackson forever in the ***** Jackson-Drug Addict-Pedophile mode invented and marketed so profitably for so long. I hope this will change as the family realizes it must take wise counsel, draw together as one, and seize this irresponsible media gabfest that's run amock for far too long.
Even now, you won't find any Big Guns in the business pursuing a thorough re-examination of the accusations, the accusers, the trial and aftermath -- despite the wealth of information available. Instead, we hear a titillating comment here or reference there -- enough to keep the issue murky and marketable.
Oprah Winfrey, a big and trusted voice among her millions of supporters, believes that Michael Jackson was a child molester. She is unlikely to change her view, carefully avoiding all evidence to the contrary, including an 18-month trial that produced 14 Not Guilty verdicts by a conservative jury.
Michael Jackson's mortal voice is now silent for all time, and the construct of his remembrance and legacy is left in the hands of others. In one corner, family, longtime friends and colleagues, fans and admirers, thoughtful authors and journalists and others who seek to know and present the whole man. In the other corner, the media warlords who labeled and stalked him and their legions of foot soldiers comprised of hangers-on, tabloid proctologists, snake oil salesmen, opportunists and assorted parasites who suck on show business and provide the Media Beast's daily diet of gossip, lies, rumors, and half-truths.
I see a ferocious battle worthy of Michael Jackson's life that his children will join as they mature and shoulder his honor with strength and pride, and that Truth will win in the end.
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http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/o...25-ppb-katherine-interview-279444/index8.html
This insightful comment was left on Oprah's website.
The business of O is to get the BIG interview and to get the interviewee(s) into territory where the BIG and ratings-rich questions will be explored. Oprah was once seen as America's trustworthy, compassionate, forthright, supportive best friend. Now she is O, fountainhead of OWN, engaged with other 5-star generals in ratings warfare with one objective -- to WIN.
The key factor in The Jackson Family interview is, oddly enough, NOT the family at all but Michael Jackson. Mother Katherine, Father Joe and Jackson's young children are interesting only as they relate to and claim intimacy in the life of Michael Jackson, deceased. And they are useful to O only as a portal through which Michael Jackson can once again be invasively probed.
I was struck by the O-team's focus on "Will the molestation charges be explored and will Jackson's children appear and speak with Oprah?" To her staff, Oprah spoke dismissively and rather contemptuously of Joe Jackson's presence, yet she masterfully seized the moment to question Joe about the physical abuse of his children "which your own son, Michael, openly discussed." So, I guess Joe's unwelcome presence wasn't a total loss.
It should be remembered that the Jackson Family interview and Lisa Marie Presley (Jackson's first wife) interview were scheduled closely following or in the midst of other Oprah shows about child molestation. Yes, I've heard "coincidence" as an explanation for the scheduling. A more accurate word is "strategic." Ms. Winfrey's scheduling places Michael Jackson's name squarely where she feels it belongs -- in a child predator environment where her audience will forever link it and remember it. The move was calculated and very effective.
It is painful to watch the Jacksons unwittingly fall into every trap set for them by media moguls like Winfrey and others. The Jacksons are nice people, by and large, but lack the savvy required to maneuver the media killing fields or to counter the tactics used by interviewers in pursuit of a desired result. After being thoroughly oiled, reassured and soothed with flattery, they are skillfully guided into perilous territory by those who want to cast Michael Jackson forever in the ***** Jackson-Drug Addict-Pedophile mode invented and marketed so profitably for so long. I hope this will change as the family realizes it must take wise counsel, draw together as one, and seize this irresponsible media gabfest that's run amock for far too long.
Even now, you won't find any Big Guns in the business pursuing a thorough re-examination of the accusations, the accusers, the trial and aftermath -- despite the wealth of information available. Instead, we hear a titillating comment here or reference there -- enough to keep the issue murky and marketable.
Oprah Winfrey, a big and trusted voice among her millions of supporters, believes that Michael Jackson was a child molester. She is unlikely to change her view, carefully avoiding all evidence to the contrary, including an 18-month trial that produced 14 Not Guilty verdicts by a conservative jury.
Michael Jackson's mortal voice is now silent for all time, and the construct of his remembrance and legacy is left in the hands of others. In one corner, family, longtime friends and colleagues, fans and admirers, thoughtful authors and journalists and others who seek to know and present the whole man. In the other corner, the media warlords who labeled and stalked him and their legions of foot soldiers comprised of hangers-on, tabloid proctologists, snake oil salesmen, opportunists and assorted parasites who suck on show business and provide the Media Beast's daily diet of gossip, lies, rumors, and half-truths.
I see a ferocious battle worthy of Michael Jackson's life that his children will join as they mature and shoulder his honor with strength and pride, and that Truth will win in the end.
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The fact that Katherine wanted to talk about finances is scary to me. Isn't she making enough money already? What the hell does she want more? The woman has everything paid and still lots of thousands in her pocket from the Estate, what is she so mad about? She would only be happy if the Estate gave her millions and millions every month. And, because the estate refuses to do so, she complains about them.
Joe is not just a money-hungry person: he's also as fame and glory hungry. He loves the cameras. God, these family is so dysfunctional it's not even funny. Katherine thinks it's the Estate's obligation to give the entire tribe a billionaire lyfestyle and, because they don't do so, she complains even though she still gets a LOT of money. The hell with Katherine! The hell with her pathetic husband! The hell with the pathetic siblings. I'm done with this dysfunctional, freakish, aberrational family.
Joe is not just a money-hungry person: he's also as fame and glory hungry. He loves the cameras. God, these family is so dysfunctional it's not even funny. Katherine thinks it's the Estate's obligation to give the entire tribe a billionaire lyfestyle and, because they don't do so, she complains even though she still gets a LOT of money. The hell with Katherine! The hell with her pathetic husband! The hell with the pathetic siblings. I'm done with this dysfunctional, freakish, aberrational family.
u know when she did the first interview with her porn pal, she said that when MJ bought the catalog he told her ''now we will never have to worry about money again'' or something like that, well anyways she said 'he told me this before he had children' I heard resentment in that statement. She just like the rest of them is not able to comprehend why Michael didn't leave them anything. She wanted Michael to take care of her, her violent husband, his dozen of siblings AND THEIR countless children plus their children's children. and baby mama's. That's the sense of entitlement these ppl had and still continue to have. What happened to Michael is not any different to what happens to many big families, the only difference is that Michael went on to become a huge superstar/entertainer. The only difference is the occupation, but it happens that one child excels in studies/education, becomes a doctor or a lawyer and the other sibling(s) is barely able to make thru highschool and as a result of that only does 'simple work'. Michael was the 'doctor/lawyer' who exceled in his field (performing/singing in this case) while the others, didn't. Why should Michael be punished and foot their bills just b/c he was/is successful? He wasn't riding on their backs, they were hanging on his coattails for as long as they possibly could.
She should ask herself WHY none of them got a dime, what drove him to this decision, I'm sure harassing the shyte out of him, selling him out, making stories up, driving thru his gates, writing songs, bad mouthing, lying, being envious and jealous. ALL of this played a huge part in his final decision. I'm just glad Mike was wise enough to see all their nonsense (well almost), Good for Michael leaving them out, it was his wealth, he could do whatever he wanted to with it. Now they should focus on Janet (who has no family of her own, no one to take care of, no responsibilities to fulfill), she is their last chance, basically the only one they got. I'm sure it's paining to see all the money coming in, it's so near and still out of their reach. A couple of heads must be exploding! LOL!
I certainly hope (although I know it's in vain) that they grow up finally and get themselves and their adult children, a PAYING job. God knows there are enough leeches living on welfare, and the economy is to weak, so there shouldn't be any further burden on welfare, not now and not in 20 years.
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Exactly, I doubt the kids wanted to be involved in this. They didn't need to be involved in the first place, honestly, what was the purpose of it? Katherine could have promoted her book with her shady guy buisness partner without the Kids being there, but she knew that more people would watch if the kids were on..It's no different from the whole 'signed belt' crap that Katherine and Joe were putting together. Using Michael's kids to get money and more attention :no:
Let the kids just be kids, they had no reason to be interviewed and talk about their personal feelings and things they did with Michael.
You think someone in that family would go "Michael would not want this." and end it right there, but no, they go on with it for purely selfish reasons without anything else considered.
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Exactly.
Katherine is as freakish and monstruous as the others. The hell with the pathetic little woman. The kids are in danger.
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Love the quote you pasted jrsfan, it's so true. Sad but true. Can't wait for MJ's kids to be old enough to take control.
Blanket is very like Michael. He looks very uncomfortable and sad, poor thing. Paris has absolutely beautiful eyes.
Blanket is very like Michael. He looks very uncomfortable and sad, poor thing. Paris has absolutely beautiful eyes.
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1) Blanket looked like he really really didn't want to be there. He should NOT have been put through that, you could see he looked extremely uncomfortable.
2) What's with that woman at the beginning treating Oprah like she's the Queen arriving at H'hurst.. & whoever that other woman is who said something like 'did we invite Joe here?' in that really pissy way.. that isn't Oprah's house.
3) From her own mouth Oprah wanted to make the interview of MJ's kids look less exploitative by having the cousins there too. So she knows it's wrong. Obviously with the comment about MJ haunting her, she knows it's against his wishes but she still went ahead..
4) The whole MJ convention thing, there were a lot of people there.. & the family took lots of stuff of MJ's & J5 out to show Oprah eg. the MLK drawing that MJ did, but she showed none of it on air.. she didn't care about showing these things. She didn't even really care about interviewing Katherine, she wanted Michael's kids, AND the adults fell for it & allowed it to happen. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
5) From the footage it seemed that they were nervous that the kids would decide they didn't want to do the interview. So they had a choice? I hope they really were told they didn't have to do it if they didn't want to.
Yeh, good question. Does anyone know if they actually got paid for this interview?
2) What's with that woman at the beginning treating Oprah like she's the Queen arriving at H'hurst.. & whoever that other woman is who said something like 'did we invite Joe here?' in that really pissy way.. that isn't Oprah's house.
3) From her own mouth Oprah wanted to make the interview of MJ's kids look less exploitative by having the cousins there too. So she knows it's wrong. Obviously with the comment about MJ haunting her, she knows it's against his wishes but she still went ahead..
4) The whole MJ convention thing, there were a lot of people there.. & the family took lots of stuff of MJ's & J5 out to show Oprah eg. the MLK drawing that MJ did, but she showed none of it on air.. she didn't care about showing these things. She didn't even really care about interviewing Katherine, she wanted Michael's kids, AND the adults fell for it & allowed it to happen. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
5) From the footage it seemed that they were nervous that the kids would decide they didn't want to do the interview. So they had a choice? I hope they really were told they didn't have to do it if they didn't want to.
Yeh, good question. Does anyone know if they actually got paid for this interview?
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They probably aid something to the kids like...Oh you are gonna get a chance to talk about your dad.....and the kids loving Michael as much as they do..probably said yes. Exploitation that is all it is.