this aint on youtube yet? lol
Noirnoar posted some videos on page 163 of this thread, but I think those videos are missing some of the stuff with the kids. MsCassieMollie posted a short video with missing parts on page 165.
this aint on youtube yet? lol
and oprah was being honest when she said blanket would be her hardest interviewer
Here we go:
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I agree. thats what I saw and got from this behind the scenes program. Of course Im not one to tryI watched the program.
I was surprised and glad to hear Oprah speak about not making the kids uncomfortable....
staying within her "bounds" so to speak.
And also her reason for not staying in touch back in 1993.
She said that she felt it wasnt "her place" after the interview.
And the special connection between she and Mrs.J.
I like what you had to say. I'm not a huge Oprah fan either and also disagree with her on many issues. I found no fault with the interview except for her always asking about the molestation charges, which reminded me of something she said in her own interview when Barbara Walters asked her about being gay. Her reply was that she's always said no to that and the reason people keep asking is because evidently they don't believe her--well the same goes for her--the reason she keeps asking that same molestation question of Mike is evidently she doesn't believe that he's innocent; even when he's been proven innocent.I agree. thats what I saw and got from this behind the scenes program. Of course Im not one to try
and seek something evil and sinister in everyone or everything surounding Michael. I try and look for
the good in people. Becuase everyone has some faults. Including myself. My motto is its best to treat
others as you would like to be treated.
It is what it is _ If someone wants to add thier own spin to it still doenst change what was put foward
at face value for everyone to see. It gave me a better insight of the original interview and how much
care went into planning this interview from both sides ..
Oprah didnt even know the children were going to be part of the interview untill she was told and seemed
genuine in her concern about not expoiting or causing the children to be uncomfortable. It was very positive
for the children to be seen in this settingand let the world see how well rounded and sweet they were.
Oprah even stopped the cameras when she seen Katherines tears.she had respect for her and it showed.
Katherine also admired Oprah, remember Oprah also come up from humble beginnings and had to prove herself.
Also Oprah wasnt their to entertain or interview all the added house guests looking for promotion and it wasnt
rude on her part not to. They were the ones intruding on the planned interview with Katherine and the children.
Now im not a big fan of Oprah by any means and disagree with her on many issues, But she is not an evil person
or a devil as some like to make her out to be. I see more lack of character in the statements used to attack her.
Some people just cant exsist unless they have someone to hate on. If is wasnt Oprah it would be someone else
and if there isnt someone else then they turn on other fans who dont agree with them.
In my very humble opinion
Exactly.
Katherine is as freakish and monstruous as the others. The hell with the pathetic little woman. The kids are in danger.
I agree. thats what I saw and got from this behind the scenes program. Of course Im not one to try
and seek something evil and sinister in everyone or everything surounding Michael. I try and look for
the good in people. Becuase everyone has some faults. Including myself. My motto is its best to treat
others as you would like to be treated.
It is what it is _ If someone wants to add thier own spin to it still doenst change what was put foward
at face value for everyone to see. It gave me a better insight of the original interview and how much
care went into planning this interview from both sides ..
Oprah didnt even know the children were going to be part of the interview untill she was told and seemed
genuine in her concern about not expoiting or causing the children to be uncomfortable. It was very positive
for the children to be seen in this settingand let the world see how well rounded and sweet they were.
Oprah even stopped the cameras when she seen Katherines tears.she had respect for her and it showed.
Katherine also admired Oprah, remember Oprah also come up from humble beginnings and had to prove herself.
Also Oprah wasnt their to entertain or interview all the added house guests looking for promotion and it wasnt
rude on her part not to. They were the ones intruding on the planned interview with Katherine and the children.
Now im not a big fan of Oprah by any means and disagree with her on many issues, But she is not an evil person
or a devil as some like to make her out to be. I see more lack of character in the statements used to attack her.
Some people just cant exsist unless they have someone to hate on. If is wasnt Oprah it would be someone else
and if there isnt someone else then they turn on other fans who dont agree with them.
In my very humble opinion
No she isn't perfect. But she didn't have to badmouth and make Michael look guilty on her shows during his trial and such influencing people. Oprah influences people. She doesn't like Michael. She wants to be friends with Katherine and that means she can more access to his children. Her and Michael didn't have to be friends but she didn't have to be so judgmental and harsh towards him when he was nothing but kind and generous to her when she interviewed. When Michael died everyone wondered why Oprah said nothing when weeks and weeks went by. I don't think she cared. Then she does a show on him and has to constantly remind everyone that is was "before the allegations". Not once, twice but at least like 3 or 4 times.
She has made it pretty obvious she thinks he was guilty. After Michael died I thought maybe she would understand better or see him better but she doesn't. To see her with his children made me cringe. I doubt that Michael would want them interviewed by Oprah and for his children to be considered a great nab for ratings. He wanted his children away from that.
What people need to remember is that Oprah herself was sexually molested as a child for many years and so as somebody who has been through that she is looking at it from the child's perspective and would always believe a child saying they were molested because (and anyone of you have been through this yourselves will understand) the worst fear of a child whose been through that is not being believed. People REALLY need to get that, and that's the position she is coming from. It's not personal to Michael for all it matters it could of been Santa Claus, it's the fact a child has said they were abused and she chooses to believe the child always because she understands that pain of not being believed.
Also alot of people on here always talk about how terribly Oprah talked about Michael during the trial on her show, this is simply not true and unlike it seems everyone else on this forum i can prove it. We have EVERY single Oprah episode consecutively from season 19 til now as they were tivoed and stored (Oprah fans in our household). Now season 19 for those that are wondering began in 2004 (premire show was the classic "you get a car! And you get a car! Everybody gets a car! moment).
From that show going all the way through 2004-2005-2006 and til this moment she only mentioned Michael a handful of times. Once with Barbra Walters in 2004 when she asked Barbara what she was thinking when Michael said to her "I'm not a *****, i'm Jackson". The 2nd time was later in 2004 when a guy in the audience said TO Oprah that money make's your life perfect "look at the Jackson's" in which Oprah responded "Wait a minute they seem like a perfect family to you?" in which the guy said "yeah" and Oprah "O.K then" and sat down and the last time prior to Michael's death that she mentioned him was when Janet came on the show in 2006 with Jermaine (Dupree).
So people you all are entitleded to your opinions but don't state events that never even took place and present them as fact. NOT ONCE did Oprah mention michael in the same sentence as abuse or molestation. Even through a period during 2006 where she was doing a series of amazing shows on capturing molesters and even again a show in 2008 about stopping child pornogrphy she never ONCE mentioned Michael or his family or affilates. Say what you want but base it on fact. You may not like her but she has done a hellover lot to put a stop to sexual abuse (all you need to do is google the "Oprah Bill" or the Senate bill 1738 which was passed just 10 days after Oprah's show aired and she asked everybody to copy and paste a letter she had already written but to put their names on it and send it to their local senators.
She's not anti Michael she's just (as we ALL should be) very anti child abuse. This doesn't even mean Oprah believes Michael did it, it's just means she won't go out and vehemently defend him because not knowing him personally she didn't/doesn't know for SURE.
What people need to remember is that Oprah herself was sexually molested as a child for many years and so as somebody who has been through that she is looking at it from the child's perspective and would always believe a child saying they were molested because (and anyone of you have been through this yourselves will understand) the worst fear of a child whose been through that is not being believed. People REALLY need to get that, and that's the position she is coming from. It's not personal to Michael for all it matters it could of been Santa Claus, it's the fact a child has said they were abused and she chooses to believe the child always because she understands that pain of not being believed.
Also alot of people on here always talk about how terribly Oprah talked about Michael during the trial on her show, this is simply not true and unlike it seems everyone else on this forum i can prove it. We have EVERY single Oprah episode consecutively from season 19 til now as they were tivoed and stored (Oprah fans in our household). Now season 19 for those that are wondering began in 2004 (premire show was the classic "you get a car! And you get a car! Everybody gets a car! moment).
From that show going all the way through 2004-2005-2006 and til this moment she only mentioned Michael a handful of times. Once with Barbra Walters in 2004 when she asked Barbara what she was thinking when Michael said to her "I'm not a *****, i'm Jackson". The 2nd time was later in 2004 when a guy in the audience said TO Oprah that money make's your life perfect "look at the Jackson's" in which Oprah responded "Wait a minute they seem like a perfect family to you?" in which the guy said "yeah" and Oprah "O.K then" and sat down and the last time prior to Michael's death that she mentioned him was when Janet came on the show in 2006 with Jermaine (Dupree).
So people you all are entitleded to your opinions but don't state events that never even took place and present them as fact. NOT ONCE did Oprah mention michael in the same sentence as abuse or molestation. Even through a period during 2006 where she was doing a series of amazing shows on capturing molesters and even again a show in 2008 about stopping child pornogrphy she never ONCE mentioned Michael or his family or affilates. Say what you want but base it on fact. You may not like her but she has done a hellover lot to put a stop to sexual abuse (all you need to do is google the "Oprah Bill" or the Senate bill 1738 which was passed just 10 days after Oprah's show aired and she asked everybody to copy and paste a letter she had already written but to put their names on it and send it to their local senators.
She's not anti Michael she's just (as we ALL should be) very anti child abuse. This doesn't even mean Oprah believes Michael did it, it's just means she won't go out and vehemently defend him because not knowing him personally she didn't/doesn't know for SURE.
What people need to remember is that Oprah herself was sexually molested as a child for many years and so as somebody who has been through that she is looking at it from the child's perspective and would always believe a child saying they were molested because (and anyone of you have been through this yourselves will understand) the worst fear of a child whose been through that is not being believed. People REALLY need to get that, and that's the position she is coming from. It's not personal to Michael for all it matters it could of been Santa Claus, it's the fact a child has said they were abused and she chooses to believe the child always because she understands that pain of not being believed.
Also alot of people on here always talk about how terribly Oprah talked about Michael during the trial on her show, this is simply not true and unlike it seems everyone else on this forum i can prove it. We have EVERY single Oprah episode consecutively from season 19 til now as they were tivoed and stored (Oprah fans in our household). Now season 19 for those that are wondering began in 2004 (premire show was the classic "you get a car! And you get a car! Everybody gets a car! moment).
From that show going all the way through 2004-2005-2006 and til this moment she only mentioned Michael a handful of times. Once with Barbra Walters in 2004 when she asked Barbara what she was thinking when Michael said to her "I'm not a *****, i'm Jackson". The 2nd time was later in 2004 when a guy in the audience said TO Oprah that money make's your life perfect "look at the Jackson's" in which Oprah responded "Wait a minute they seem like a perfect family to you?" in which the guy said "yeah" and Oprah "O.K then" and sat down and the last time prior to Michael's death that she mentioned him was when Janet came on the show in 2006 with Jermaine (Dupree).
So people you all are entitleded to your opinions but don't state events that never even took place and present them as fact. NOT ONCE did Oprah mention michael in the same sentence as abuse or molestation. Even through a period during 2006 where she was doing a series of amazing shows on capturing molesters and even again a show in 2008 about stopping child pornogrphy she never ONCE mentioned Michael or his family or affilates. Say what you want but base it on fact. You may not like her but she has done a hellover lot to put a stop to sexual abuse (all you need to do is google the "Oprah Bill" or the Senate bill 1738 which was passed just 10 days after Oprah's show aired and she asked everybody to copy and paste a letter she had already written but to put their names on it and send it to their local senators.
She's not anti Michael she's just (as we ALL should be) very anti child abuse. This doesn't even mean Oprah believes Michael did it, it's just means she won't go out and vehemently defend him because not knowing him personally she didn't/doesn't know for SURE.
her actions during the trial and now shows shes anti mj and believes he did it.She's not anti Michael she's just (as we ALL should be) very anti child abuse. This doesn't even mean Oprah believes Michael did it, it's just means she won't go out and vehemently defend him because not knowing him personally she didn't/doesn't know for SURE.
Really weird how she can believe he was a child molester yet showcase his latest album on her show. I guess "it's just business people!"
obsession with this issue and mj is beyond the trauma she experienced as a child. it's something else and jealousy plays a big role, it's not just the sex abuse charges alone when it comes to her and mj.that's because she is a creep....she has tried to pin the "child molester" name on MJ became she was molested as a child...now she thinks that just because Someone points the finger at someone that person is guilty. I think she is carry around some untreated anger and she should probably go back into counciling.
Then shouldn't she educate herself on it first before commenting!? You seem to forget the jokes she allowed on her shows made by Chris Rock and Jon Steward that they made about his guilt and she laughed at and agreed with! U seem to forget that she compared a gay guy on her show to MJ when he said he can sleep in a bed with another man without having sex! She told this man he sounds like Michael Jackson! So it's clear she thinks he is Guilty!She's not anti Michael she's just (as we ALL should be) very anti child abuse. This doesn't even mean Oprah believes Michael did it, it's just means she won't go out and vehemently defend him because not knowing him personally she didn't/doesn't know for SURE.
xPrincessx;3222717 said:Also alot of people on here always talk about how terribly Oprah talked about Michael during the trial on her show, this is simply not true and unlike it seems everyone else on this forum i can prove it.
From that show going all the way through 2004-2005-2006 and til this moment she only mentioned Michael a handful of times.
So people you all are entitleded to your opinions but don't state events that never even took place and present them as fact. NOT ONCE did Oprah mention michael in the same sentence as abuse or molestation.
ALL THIS^^^^^......shows so much disrespect towards Michael.....how in the world could Katherine EVER go on her show...how could she ever allow Michael's children on her show....I am absolutly disgusted.Vici;3223633 said:I guess we have seen different shows of hers then. You are correct that Oprah never said "he IS a molester" but how can you give her a pass when we all KNOW what kind of remarks she has done in the past, ie leading into the sexual abuse charges and joking about him etc.
- Oprah had a show about unrelated men who share intimate relationships, no sexual, with one another and they insisted they were heterosexual. One of the men said that he often shared a bed with his friends and Oprah laughed and said “You’re sounding like Michael Jackson.”
- One show was about Body Dysmorphic Disorder and Oprah went on to say she thought MJ had this disease.
- During jury deliberations she had a show about pedophilia
- For some reason she asked several guest on her show (Chris Rock/Jay Leno etc) about their opinions about Michael and the trial when Michael was not even the topic of the show. She basically let them crack a few jokes about him while MJ was on trial.
What I have mentioned above is just a few things of what Oprah has said/done.
Sooo i mean, there is really not much more to add to this story and even Taj said on twitter that the family is aware of how Oprah has treated MJ in the past.
ALL THIS^^^^^......shows so much disrespect towards Michael.....how in the world could Katherine EVER go on her show...how could she ever allow Michael's children on her show....I am absolutly disgusted.
oh..I know....I dont understand how anyone can be an MJ fan and still respect Oprah...its beyond me...Yupp and there is more, I just posted some of the things she has said/done... there are more, for instance like bluetopez said how Jon Steward said some things on her show about Michael and her agreeing with LMP that MJ used her and took advantage of her.
Really weird how she can believe he was a child molester yet showcase his latest album on her show. I guess "it's just business people!"
Vici;3223633 said:I guess we have seen different shows of hers then. You are correct that Oprah never said "he IS a molester" but how can you give her a pass when we all KNOW what kind of remarks she has done in the past, ie leading into the sexual abuse charges and joking about him etc.
- Oprah had a show about unrelated men who share intimate relationships, no sexual, with one another and they insisted they were heterosexual. One of the men said that he often shared a bed with his friends and Oprah laughed and said “You’re sounding like Michael Jackson.”
- One show was about Body Dysmorphic Disorder and Oprah went on to say she thought MJ had this disease.
- During jury deliberations she had a show about pedophilia
- For some reason she asked several guest on her show (Chris Rock/Jay Leno etc) about their opinions about Michael and the trial when Michael was not even the topic of the show. She basically let them crack a few jokes about him while MJ was on trial.
What I have mentioned above is just a few things of what Oprah has said/done.
Sooo i mean, there is really not much more to add to this story and even Taj said on twitter that the family is aware of how Oprah has treated MJ in the past.
obsession with this issue and mj is beyond the trauma she experienced as a child. it's something else and jealousy plays a big role, it's not just the sex abuse charges alone when it comes to her and mj.