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why are ppl saying that david cook's version is better than mj's on youtube?

<<<<<<In Australia, I still feel it is so NOT cool to like MJ- other Aussies may not feel this way. But basically, I get flack on an almost daily basis for loving MJ, no matter what all these "cool" artists are doing for him. And since 2005 it's been about 10X worse for me. :lol:>>>>>>>>> Trust me, if Michael come to Australia, those people bothering you will be the first in line to see Michael. It never fails. I remember, Australia was the place who acted up real bad in mob scenes when Michael came there.
 
GAV001 said:
I hate Chris Cornell's slowed down acoustic version of Billie Jean. I mean i really do hate it with a passion! It's just awful to listen to. Great way to butcher the perfect pop song!

I can't understand why so many MJ fans like this version. Why would anyone wanna listen to it when you can listen to the original?
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cause its exciting how a pop-song can be transformed into a rock-song with a complete different melancholical mood. But you cant like it if you dont like noisy guitars with screaming dude(s) in general :lol: I do! hehe
 
^ Most Australians in your area, Bob? :yes: Where do you live out of curiosity?

I went to the gold coast (and this has happened several times before- in Brisbane too) and requested an MJ song a few months ago at a club. You should have seen how quickly everyone sat down :lol: But at another club they played Because of You / Remember the Time and everyone stayed, pretty much coz it was Ne-Yo. :lol:

His CD's do chart well, but I have found it's not cool to "openly" like MJ. Someone asked me one day what music I liked. 'Michael Jackson' is always my first answer. The person who asked me actually slapped my hand :huh: and said "That's for liking Michael Jackson". :lol: I could go on, but I won't. I simply don't care. Aussies do like him- just look at the 5 items he has on the charts here.

Back to topic- I don't mind covers done tastefully. They bring Michael's music to a new audience. :yes:
 
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Nemo777 said:
Me too, Im impressed by cornells version and listen to it over and over again :lol: I think its the best MJ cover ever!! (but, hey Im a soundgarden fan)
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Well, I'm inclined to believe that too and I'm not even a Soundgarden (or Audioslave) fan! But then again, there are not that many good MJ covers out there! ^_^
 
marnifrances said:
^ Most Australians in your area, Bob? :yes: Where do you live out of curiosity?
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I live in Brisbane, but I grew up on the Gold Coast. The two places you said people sat down when MJ songs played, lol. I actually usually experience a different reaction. Everyone is sitting down until Billie Jean, Thriller, The Way You Make Me Feel or one of those songs starts playing. I don't know. I have of course witnessed people hating on Michael and hating on me for liking Michael. But I just find the overall opinion of Michael in the Brisbane/Gold Coast area to be positive.
 
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we cannot expect everyone, everywhere to love Michael or appreciate his music the same way we do. No artist is loved 100% by the entire population. Even at his highest peek of fame, in the midst of the 80's Michaelmania, there were people who hated on him.

There are younger people that may know cover versions of Michaels songs, not as covers. Many people may know the name 'Michael Jackson' and not have actually heard his music.

Instead of getting totally annoyed and pissed by these people, in the place of allowing their lack of knowledge to ruin your mood ... simply offer educated and informed knowledge to them. It is up to them what the do with your courtesy ;)
 
No one can ever perform a song better than the composer and Billie Jean is no exception. Michael Jackson's performance has that mammoth bass line that hooks every listener immediately. This version never came close.
 
Bob George said:
Brisbane, and before the Gold Coast. The two places you said people sat down when MJ songs played, lol. I actually usually experience a different reaction. Everyone is sitting down until Billie Jean, Thriller, The Way You Make Me Feel or one of those songs starts playing. I don't know. I have of course witnessed people hating on Michael and hating on me for liking Michael. But I just find the overall opinion of Michael in the Brisbane/Gold Coast area to be positive.
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Lucky you! :lol: I live at Byron Bay actually (or just north- I'm 35 mins from the GC) and lived in Bris for 3 years. I always request MJ when I am out up there though. I haven't had a good reaction to an MJ song in years. Maybe I am going to the wrong clubs :huh: :mello:

But yeah, maybe I am more fond of this version a bit more because I am a Chris Cornell / Soundgarden fan. :lol: I love Cornell's voice.
 
whitesocksdancer said:
No one can ever perform a song better than the composer and Billie Jean is no exception. Michael Jackson's performance has that mammoth bass line that hooks every listener immediately. This version never came close.
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I Heard It Through The Grapevine was 1st recorded by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, but theirs was an album track. I've heard lots of versions of this and like most of them. I like the Gladys Knight & The Pips version, as well as Marvin Gaye's (the most successful version), Creedence Clearwater Revival (especially when it rocks out), and the Roger Troutman version. I think Respect by Aretha Franklin is better than the original by Otis Redding. Also Stevie Wonder's "Blowin' In The Wind" is better than Bob Dylan's. So a cover can be better than an original.
 
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Bob George said:
I wouldn't say that's exactly accurate. Many composers aren't performers. In fact, a lot of pop songwriters become songwriters because they can't perform so the retreat to behind-the-scenes.
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That is true about some composers.

I was speaking as a listener. The composer plays it with the same feeling he had when he was inspired to write it. I want to experience that.
 
DuranDuran said:
I Heard It Through The Grapevine was 1st recorded by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, but theirs was an album track. I've heard lots of versions of this and like most of them. I like the Gladys Knight & The Pips version, as well as Marvin Gaye's (the most successful version), Creedence Clearwater Revival (especially when it rocks out), and the Roger Troutman version. I think Respect by Aretha Franklin is better than the original by Otis Redding. Also Stevie Wonder's "Blowin' In The Wind" is better than Bob Dylan's. So a cover can be better than an original.
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True. I think Whitney's verse of "I will always love you" first sung by Dolly Pardon is better which was my favorite song by Dolly. I also like the Fugees version of "killing me softly" which was sung by Roberta FLack and also done by Al B Sure. HOwever, I do not think that is the case with Billie Jean.
 
And whitney is the QUEEN of taking and singing songs better than the original artists. Many of Whitney's hits were copy overs.
 
why are ppl saying that david cook's version is better than mj's on youtube?

Answer: There on glue.... simple as.
 
Wasn't it originally Chris Cornell's version that David Cook sang?
Of course nobody never gonna beat Michael's version but I do like Cornell's version some way..
 
Sorry, but there is no a parameter where any of covers are "better" than Jackson's original. In fact, due to other artists' voice controlling abilities' limitations, all covers have lesser artistic self-expression level than Michael's originals.

And with this, it is not matter of taste, but just factual comparative reasoning.
 
RockWithLou said:
lmao @ people liking that crap version better
they must need their ears testing. His version didn't suit the song AT ALL. :mellow: it was AWFUL.
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I know! I love Chris Cornell and all (and it's stupid how David Cook gets the credit for that version--he shouldn't even be proud of it lol!), I really do love Chris Cornell--he has a GREAT voice and a lot of talent.

But that version of the song was hooooorrible...it doesn't suit it at all, like you said.
 
its a combination of haters and teenie bopers that don't know MICHAEL JACKSON yet..


I remember when I was getting my friend into MJ, he liked Alien Aunt Farms version of Smooth Criminal better.. Some months later.. he LOVED MJ's version WAY over AAF. version.


Once they give time, and understand the brillience that goes into an MJ song.. They will back from there opinions
 
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PatrickS77 said:
Wow! Fans feeling threatened again! Not everyone has to like MJ! Besides, it was a new, fresh take in a total different direction on a well known song... so let them like it! It's still an MJ song after all!
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Not being an MJ fan is one thing...saying that his crappy version of it is BETTER?

Now, that's...another.

If you think that version is better than the original, you have very...interesting taste in music. That's all I'll say.
 
Who cares...he'll be a complete no one in a few years at the most.
I like the Chris Cornell version, it was good; but most people who are SO into AI are teenagers and they haven't experienced the magic first hand IMO.
 
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LovelyOne said:
If you think that version is better than the original, you have very...interesting taste in music. That's all I'll say.
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Why? A person, who is more into rock music than into pop music, couldn't care less about Michael Jackson!

And I didn't say I think it's better... I also didn't say I think it's worse! I say it's a fresh and interesting take of it and a totally different style! There is no need to compare the two! But yes, I like it!
 
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drsh83 said:
:mello:..i dont get it..half of them think that david cooks version i.e chris cornell's version is the original one..lmao...its times like this,i wish mj would release the new album,and just kick everyones ass...sigh...its so dissapointing,that ppl r stupid,to think that david cook is better than mj,and he kicks mj;s ass,,and such comments like,,at least he dsnt bleach himself...yadda yadda..etc/...when will ppl realise michael's genius in making music..it seems,as if..mj has just faded away with time..i really hope mj has something big planned for the future...i may sound sound selfish.but..just one last time at least..just to make ppl shut their mouths abt his talent..
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Well, the way I look at it is this - the people who said that are stupid. Most of those people never even heard the music of MJ because maybe their parents do not playMJ's music in their houses/homes. Most of those people are not going to listen to the music of someone that they find weird or whatever and they give the credit to some rocker that half of America who do not listen to rock never heard of (Chris Cornell) and a idol contender who is talented with no record deal [that we know of] (David Cook). MJ does not need to do anything but his new CD and live his life. Those clowns over at youtube robbed themselves of great music. They did not research and found the original person who sang the classic song. As for saying that David's version was better than Mike's - that is absurd and laughable. Those people know how to erase the work of the black man and give the credit to the white men just because they are too ignorant to apperciate greatness. I see that as undercover racism. Period.

MJ did not faded away in time, those people are complete fools. You can't tell regular thinking people that David's version is better than Michael's! That is crazy! MJ is a legend. Even the heifers on the View mentioned that it was a MJ song and did not even mentioned that Chris Cornell made a rendition of the song. I do not even think that they even knew that. I know that there were plenty of people that mentioned that "Billie Jean" is Michael's song and had no clue that a rocker remade the song and turn it into a rock version. So, MJ did not fade away. It is just a bunch of dumb fools at youtube that hate MJ and can't stand the fact that he owns the catalogue and is not going anywhere.

BTW, I do not know if anyone watched "AI" last night but when Ryan Seacreast mentioned that Chris Cornell called him to tell him that he liked David's version of the song, why didn't any of them make it clear that it is NOT Chris' song? It sounded as if that Chris guy was taking credit for a song that originally was not his. I remember that this guy bashed MJ during the trial but decided to take his song and remake it as a rock song and never tried to give the credit to MJ for the sake of credit. Funny how things still have not changed after everything.
 
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Wow, are we all excited about that guy performing Billie Jean! ;-)
 
Bob George said:
I've had a completely different experience. Most Australians love Michael. He's pumping at all the clubs, and everyone is real into it. His CDs sell like hotcakes here. I find him to be still pretty popular here. America if far worse in regards to treating Michael like crap. This was on American Idol, so of course people are going to say this amateur's performance of Billie Jean is better than Michael's because in America it's not cool to like MJ.
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Now, that is a quote from ignorance. Considering the fact that YOU are not American, you cannot even have an opinion about that.

I am going to real, I never met anyone that trashed MJ in my face (that I can remember) and I live in America. America, UK, anywhere, there are people who like and who dislike MJ. Countries have nothing to do with it. There are plenty of people who live in the USA who love MJ. Sometimes, I am shocked that MJ has a lot of fans in the USA. You let the media manipulate you into thinking that. You should give the media a "treat" for that.

BTW, they ALWAYS play MJ at the clubs in the US.
 
I agree Bee

MJ still has a HUGE Fan base in the USA
depsite what the tabloid or media might say
they are certainly NOT in tune with reality as
we all know _ Juts doing a demographic of where
fans come from on this board alone whould show you

George seems to also forget that T-25 just Topped the Charts in The USA

American Idol did NOT say This performer was better than Michael
so I dont even get that they are hostile toward Michael _ In fact it
was praising Michael for that fact that they thought the guys was
brave to even try to cover MJ's Billie Jean -

Also I think David Cook did a great Job _ I wasnt trying to
compair him to Michael plus him singing this on american Idol
puts Michael on the front burner... Millions watch that show
Michael Jackson is everywhere ... that is good publicity.
 
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