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Do u believe any of the conspiracy theories?

What do u believe happened?

  • His death was faked and hes living somewhere else

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Its a PR stunt and he'll be back

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • He was murdered/his death was planned by others

    Votes: 158 50.5%

  • It was a fatality - he was overstressed

    Votes: 145 46.3%
  • Total voters
    313
  • Poll closed .
nestacat said:
how disrespectful.

I guess he faked his death and then dressed up like an old man and sat right behind his kids at the memorial, right? wow, what a practical joker! And, he's calling random people in July........that's so funny!

I can't think of anything more disrespectful or horrifying than this very thread and the fact that people continually are posting these links. makes me sick. I thought this line of inquiry was not supposed to be happening on the board anywhere? mods?

..........I am not talking here about some stupid poll, I am talking about the posting of links to these videos!
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Well what if his family is in on it too? If we know how much agony and pain he endured as a successful artist from the tabloids, and we say we love him so so so much as his fans then if he faked his death to escape somewhere, why would you get so upset? I love him and am NOT mad at him if he faked hs death, cos I understand his kind of pain and I know how it feels to be talked about in a bad way. I think he is?/was? a brave man. I am much undecided what to believe, however I am going to make my own conclusions. Some fans feel it is their duty to debunk whatever conspiracy and accept Michael's death, while some fans feel they gotta right to ask questions and use thier brain and actually think, but no matter how different each side is, at least each side does what they gotta do because of their love for Michael, and at least that is the same thing we still have in common.
 
4u_n_4me said:
Some fans feel it is their duty to debunk whatever conspiracy and accept Michael's death, while some fans feel they gotta right to ask questions and use thier brain and actually think,
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I agree. Some fans are opening the head, thinking and analyzing all the events. I already have an opinion about this, but keep to myself and not share with anyone. What I can say is that everything is really strange and confusing. There are no answers and no receipts for anything. I will continue here watching everything very carefully and believe that all fans should do that. That's what I'll continue doing.

And I forgive Michael... always.
 
I hadn't given any of the "still alive" theories the time of day untill 5 minutes ago when my sister told me about the videos on you tube of his body moving in the helicopter, the guy who looks just like MJ getting out of the coroner's van, and the guy that looks like an MJ old man disguise at the memorial in the first few front rows sitting right by the family.
 
nestacat said:
how disrespectful.

I guess he faked his death and then dressed up like an old man and sat right behind his kids at the memorial, right? wow, what a practical joker! And, he's calling random people in July........that's so funny!

I can't think of anything more disrespectful or horrifying than this very thread and the fact that people continually are posting these links. makes me sick. I thought this line of inquiry was not supposed to be happening on the board anywhere? mods?

..........I am not talking here about some stupid poll, I am talking about the posting of links to these videos!
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you should settle down man. people have a right to have different opinions and at least try to figure things out. No need to disrespect them for having an opinion. People wondering and thinking is not disrespectful to MJ. Honestly do you think it would offend him? I'm sure if you asked him while alive "hey in the future after your gone do you think people will try and say your still alive?" He probably would have got a chuckle and would probably think it would be cool if they did.

I would if I was him. Not every fan views Michael the same way or has the same relationship with his legacy. It's different to all of us. some enjoy thinking of him as a normal guy while others loved the mystery behind him. a lot of fans here at MJJ community need to start RESPECTING THAT!!

and have a look at this. read the first few posts.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71346

we got rights too.
 
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ashtanga said:
I agree. Some fans are opening the head, thinking and analyzing all the events. I already have an opinion about this, but keep to myself and not share with anyone. What I can say is that everything is really strange and confusing. There are no answers and no receipts for anything. I will continue here watching everything very carefully and believe that all fans should do that. That's what I'll continue doing.

And I forgive Michael... always.
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That's a pretty balanced viewpoint there ashtanga!:) You're right, in a case this bizarre, where absolutely nothing balances out and nothing is ever as it seems, you are almost forced to keep an open mind.
 
MysteriousPhoenix said:
That's a pretty balanced viewpoint there ashtanga!:) You're right, in a case this bizarre, where absolutely nothing balances out and nothing is ever as it seems, you are almost forced to keep an open mind.
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Well, this is not bizarre, but complicated to understand, see, observe and analyze. It is like this: "do not explain and complicate". People are blind to see the many small details that are before the eyes. It's so obvious things... And there are many small details that are going unnoticed. Having to keep an open mind? No, the mind must always, always, always open to observe and analyze all the possibilities carefully. Is what I have done a long time and have looked upon many small details... Balance as you said, I will continue maintaining and observing and analyzing... And I'm sure it'll still add a lot to my conclusion... that will be only me. :smilerolleyes::D
 
ashtanga said:
I agree. Some fans are opening the head, thinking and analyzing all the events. I already have an opinion about this, but keep to myself and not share with anyone. What I can say is that everything is really strange and confusing. There are no answers and no receipts for anything. I will continue here watching everything very carefully and believe that all fans should do that. That's what I'll continue doing.

And I forgive Michael... always.
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This is the same way I feel 100% everything you said.
 
dancemasterman said:
you should settle down man. people have a right to have different opinions and at least try to figure things out. No need to disrespect them for having an opinion. People wondering and thinking is not disrespectful to MJ. Honestly do you think it would offend him? I'm sure if you asked him while alive "hey in the future after your gone do you think people will try and say your still alive?" He probably would have got a chuckle and would probably think it would be cool if they did.

I would if I was him. Not every fan views Michael the same way or has the same relationship with his legacy. It's different to all of us. some enjoy thinking of him as a normal guy while others loved the mystery behind him. a lot of fans here at MJJ community need to start RESPECTING THAT!!

and have a look at this. read the first few posts.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71346

we got rights too.
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http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74476
 
nestacat said:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74476
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well ain't that a little hypocritical. now people aren't allowed to discuss their own beliefs or theories. this message board is run like Iran runs it's media and regulates speech. I swear to god. anything that contradicts what the "supreme leader" wants people to think gets covered up.

oh well I don't think he's alive, but to those that do? think away and express your thoughts. your not disrespecting anybody. I don't care what that post says. And nestacat? Learn to live and let live and quit accusing them of being disrespectful because the pot is calling the kettle black here.
 
the fact that some believe he is alive is only a reflection of what a massive Iconic person he was. and I understand how some could think it. the old man disguise was proven false, but at the same time I completely understand how some could think that old lady looks like him. I understand how some could get excited after seeing the body bag move.

No reason to be rude to these poeple. I'm surprised the mods are allowing it and then on top of it the mods are helping gang up on these people.
 
dancemasterman said:
well ain't that a little hypocritical. now people aren't allowed to discuss their own beliefs or theories. this message board is run like Iran runs it's media and regulates speech. I swear to god. anything that contradicts what the "supreme leader" wants people to think gets covered up.

oh well I don't think he's alive, but to those that do? think away and express your thoughts. your not disrespecting anybody. I don't care what that post says. And nestacat? Learn to live and let live and quit accusing them of being disrespectful because the pot is calling the kettle black here.
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*sigh*...........hope you feel better after purging at me.

and not caring what the post says?.......um, then why did you register for membership here. you can always start your own board that allows whatever you want, instead of trying to change the few rules and guidelines as set out by the owner of this forum.

done.
 
I hope it is not deleted that video that is important. I think everyone should watch this video and make a reflection on the content. Forget the title of the video. Pay attention to the content. Do not give away. If to many people there is the possibility of him being alive, at least realize that there is a conspiracy based on real events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZm1WtPLkaA
 
i watched that video last night and i was floored. it made a lot of sense, and now i hope i don't get banned when i say i sincerely hope Michael was several steps ahead of them and had faked his death to escape being killed. Seems like from the very beginning, he didn't want to do those concerts and was forced into them by Thome. Reminds me of him supposedly saying something like, "They're gonna kill me if i don't do the concerts..."

maybe that is why there are so many questionable details about his death - because he isn't really dead. And that is why la Toya is talking conspiracy, and Joe (if true) is asking for congress to investigate, too. And why he behaved so uncharacteristically during the London press con.

i've heard and read of this big-time conspiracy, and it seems that even Michael talked about it a bit, but this video gave me a global view of what it's really all about.
 
mj_forever said:
i watched that video last night and i was floored. it made a lot of sense, and now i hope i don't get banned when i say i sincerely hope Michael was several steps ahead of them and had faked his death to escape being killed. Seems like from the very beginning, he didn't want to do those concerts and was forced into them by Thome. Reminds me of him supposedly saying something like, "They're gonna kill me if i don't do the concerts..."

maybe that is why there are so many questionable details about his death - because he isn't really dead. And that is why la Toya is talking conspiracy, and Joe (if true) is asking for congress to investigate, too. And why he behaved so uncharacteristically during the London press con.

i've heard and read of this big-time conspiracy, and it seems that even Michael talked about it a bit, but this video gave me a global view of what it's really all about.
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No one can be banned for having a thought formed based on real events. People have to have an open mind. See, observe and analyze all possibilities and so I posted this video here. I'm sure the video content will make other people get to see otherwise. People will start to observe and analyze more carefully.

Yes, I believe there was a big conspiracy against Michael. :(
 
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Sorry if this has already been posted, haven't gone through the entire thread but here is another reason why I think AEG hired Murray to murder Michael:

NO MUSS, NO FUSS: To borrow Nikki Finke’s characterization, AEG executives are “ghoulishly” bragging around town that the movie deal made by the estate will enable the company to recoup the $30m in costs incurred in Michael Jackson’s planned comeback—and doing so without having to actually stage the shows, risk their cancellation or deal with Jackson’s wildly unpredictable behavior. They’re also openly celebrating the likelihood that they’ll turn a considerable profit on the upcoming M.J. memorabilia tour. (8/26a)

NO LOVE LOST: AEG’s profiteering and boasting about it have exacerbated the Jackson family’s already deep distrust of the company, which has become a target for their frustration. These ill feelings could be manifested in the wrongful death suit they’re expected to file against Dr. Conrad Murray following the conclusion of the criminal proceedings, which could illuminate the role AEG may have played in the artist’s demise. Meanwhile, AEG employees on both sides of the Atlantic are being threatened with their jobs if they talk to outsiders about anything Jackson-related. (8/26a)



http://hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi
 
I don't know what to beLIEve any more. I do beLIEve that there are too many "sources', too many inconsistencies and contradictions. Something is NOT right.
 
Very strange poll. I was even not able to vote cuz it didn't give me this option from the beginning. This way this poll is not that accurate. There are some technical issues?
 
Asedora said:
Very strange poll. I was even not able to vote cuz it didn't give me this option from the beginning. This way this poll is not that accurate. There are some technical issues?
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I believe the poll ended :)
 
i still set inbetween 3 & 4
i keep seeing different things daily. just now i think murder,or atleast something was just too fishy.
 
Telha said:
Holy sh*t I just saw him sitting up in the helicopter :bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/
this website isnt very positive about him but it says all about this theory of him being alive...some points are valid, others are not...

one thing is for sure: Joe doesnt look like he lost a son...:mello:
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That website has totally gone down hill. Too much drama and lots of good people fled the site. I've noticed some of the theories they've come up with are completely insane. lol
 
A German company admitted after a few days that the videos showing Michael Jackson alive was a hoax created only to experiment on online conspiracy theories. German TV Company RTL had uploaded the videos on YouTube for a day. The video it received 880,000 hits immediately but they removed it. Spokeswoman Heike Schultz as saying: "We wanted to show how easily users can be manipulated on the internet with hoax videos. Therefore, we created this video of Michael Jackson being alive, even though everybody knows by now that he is dead - and the response was breathtaking."

Everything is really strange but we just have to accept that he is no longer with us. I think this is much bigger than we all could imagine. It will take time I’m pretty shore there are many people involved. Maybe they didn’t want to kill him but they shore didn’t do anything to save him.
 
A part of me wants to believe that this is a PR thing and to get even with the tabloids and what they did to him over the years printing their lies. If it is, just think, they have the entire planet convinced he is dead.

Of course, Michael wouldn't put his kids or family through this unless they were in on it.

I listen closely to the lyrics to some of his songs and there are hints of you should be threatened by me.... I'll be laughing while surfacing.... those come to my mind quickest. The lyrics from "the man" on the wall at the memorial service - sort of freaked me out a bit "I am alive and here forever" This is a song he did with Paul McCartney not sure how long ago.

Oh - it would be wonderful - then we wouldn't have to be sad anymore.

If he has gone - and it was as suspected with Dr. Murray - what a shame and waste of such a precious life - Dear Sweet Angel Michael. Love you more!
 
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Another theory is that fans broke through to him and MJ realised he could not do the concerts due to drugs and stress, and put a long-standing 'escape' plan into action. The theory says he will comeback in 2010.

It's very difficult to know what is true as we don't have many facts at our fingertips: no toxicology report and no autopsy report, no arrests. Nothing.

If the reports are to be believed, money, jewellery, hard disk drives and security tapes went missing from the house but we have not heard anymore about these.

So I'm keeping an open mind.
 
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Since this is the Investigative Unit and speculation is allowed. This is what I think.

I have had a strange feeling that perhaps, just perhaps Michael isn't dead. It is just a feeling, I don't know anything for real. I don't think he would fake his own death unless he were in imminent danger. So, if his death was fake, there must be more to it. I know this is irrational and I am not saying I am right, it's just a weird feeling. I am normally a very rational person, so I am really kind of unnerved by this suspicion.

If Michael did die on June 25 and Murray were the only one involved, he would have been arrested already. The fact that Murray hasn't been arrested, when he basically admitted to giving Michael the drug that killed him, means there is something more complicated about this case. If Michael was murdered, I think there are more people involved.
 
jadore said:
A German company admitted after a few days that the videos showing Michael Jackson alive was a hoax created only to experiment on online conspiracy theories. German TV Company RTL had uploaded the videos on YouTube for a day. The video it received 880,000 hits immediately but they removed it. Spokeswoman Heike Schultz as saying: "We wanted to show how easily users can be manipulated on the internet with hoax videos. Therefore, we created this video of Michael Jackson being alive, even though everybody knows by now that he is dead - and the response was breathtaking."

Everything is really strange but we just have to accept that he is no longer with us. I think this is much bigger than we all could imagine. It will take time I’m pretty shore there are many people involved. Maybe they didn’t want to kill him but they shore didn’t do anything to save him.
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This always seemed strange to me. Why would a tv station be interested in demonstrating how easily people can be misled by a hoax video ? Since most tv shows doctor their own videos, in a way they were sticking it to themselves by doing this. I am not saying i think that was a video of Michael but this explanation doesn't make any sense to me.
 
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