ensleyave
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We will have to raise pure hell fans. This cannot happen. Hell to no.
Michael Jackson died because they wanted their slimy, greedy hands on that Catalogue.
Look for Sony and Branca to dispense "shares" of it to their buddies; people of whom Michael Jackson refused to do business with over the years.
Watch...
I sense he is addressing a larger public that believes only Murray is responsible and nobody else.
If one follows the money,they definitely cross paths with AEG,Tohme,CC and SONY.
The point is WHO ELSE belongs to the money chain.
The reason MJ was broke in the end is because of all crooks like Tohme who were bleeding MJs finances until they took everything from him. He had to use the ATV catalogue and Neverland as collateral. That was everything to Michael.
The ATV catalogue is coming up for renewal in September 2010 isnt it? And the 50% owner of this catalogue mysteriously dies shortly before? Who would want to get there hands on the other half. Apart from every one, first would be the other 50% holder, Sony again.
There's a link from Sony to CC to Thome & AEG.
Michael Jackson died because they wanted their slimy, greedy hands on that Catalogue.
Look for Sony and Branca to dispense "shares" of it to their buddies; people of whom Michael Jackson refused to do business with over the years.
Watch...
Be real interesting to see who bids in that other half. And see what Golden Boy Branca is goona do. Don't trust him as far as I can throw him. And I will be watching.
Branca said they were never going to sell the catalogue. it was a little bit after MJ died and people were saying they were going to sell the catalogue to pay off MJ's debts. And brance said the estate is solvent and that selling was not an option. i think he said something like MJ wanted it for his kids and they were going to keep it. Something like that.
But I think they wouldn't be so stupid or obvious to sell it so soon after MJ died. If they are underhanded they will at least try to seem legit.
I agree it needs to be watched. I think they know MJ fans will raise caine if they try and sell it. That's why it's good to keep up on this stuff. They can sell it and nobody knows about it til much later if it is an inside deal.
They are already trying to confuse people by putting conflicting stories out there about how much of the catalogue MJ actually owned at thne time of his death.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I remember hearing that it was worth around 500 million after Michael's death, which struck me as being very out with reality.Before MJ was gone, everyone knew the catalogue was in the billions+ and I am not about to let anyone make me think otherwise.
I agree. I remember hearing that it was worth around 500 million after Michael's death, which struck me as being very out with reality.Before MJ was gone, everyone knew the catalogue was in the billions+ and I am not about to let anyone make me think otherwise.
The King's Pop Pounces
Joe Jackson seeks death documents
By Dr. Firpo Carr
Los Angeles Sentinel Newspaper
January 14 - 20, 2010
Day 203, Week 29, Article 28
Around 10:30 a.m. last Friday morning my phone rang. "Good morning, Firpo Carr speaking," I answered. To my surprise, a person from CNN's Headline News (HLN) was on the other end. "Hi Firpo, this is So-and-so with Jane Valez-Mitchell (JVM). How are you?" "I'm fine So-and-so. How are you?" I had talked to the person many times. But that was just after Michael Jackson's death. Jane and I go back to the days of Michael's trial in 2004. She was one among a throng of reporters who sought to interview me as I walked out the Santa Maria courthouse with Michael's legal team of Thomas Mesereau, Jr., Brian Oxman, Steve Cochran, Robert M. Sanger, and Susan C. Yu. Steve Cochran and I formally met at Michael's mansion. We have a good-natured battle of wits in the living room. He's formidable, to be sure. We had a good time talking. Randy Jackson, Michael's younger brother, had introduced me to Brian Oxman about ten years before the 2004 trial. So, Oxman I knew. He has been the Jackson Family's axe man for decades, and has recently been used by Joe Jackson, Michael's father, to cut through lots of legal red tape.
‘Discovering' Michael's Death Documents: In legal parlance the term "Discovery" is defined as "Part of the pre-trial litigation process during which each party requests relevant information and documents from the other side in an attempt to ‘discover' pertinent facts. Generally discovery devices include depositions, inter[r]ogatories, requests for admissions, document production requests and requests for inspection." Well, Joe Jackson, as if in "the pre-trial litigation process," has directed Brian Oxman to subpoena virtually every bit of documentation surrounding the death of the King of Pop. Here's how one news source details the official requests:
"Michael Jackson's father has launched a bid to seek more information about his son's death, which has infuriated the King of Pop's estate managers. Joe Jackson has subpoenaed medical records from the UCLA Medical Center because he believes they could contain evidence of foul play in his son's June 2009 death. His attorney, Brian Oxman, has sent two subpoenas to the UCLA Medical Center, where Jackson was pronounced dead on 25 June...Oxman is asking for a number of documents, including autopsy reports, photos and assessments. Joe Jackson insists the whole Jackson clan is behind his latest action because they all believe the medical records will show what was in Jackson's body when he passed, and they believe the information will expose foul play."
Estate Attorneys Object?: In a very odd and highly unusual twist it appears that the Executors and Special Administrators of the Estate of Michael Jackson are not at all pleased with the Jackson Family's interest in simply knowing the details of the death of its most famous member. The news source quoted above continues: "Those in charge of the King of Pop's estate are far from happy with the move. Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman has called the subpoenas ‘clearly improper' in a letter to Oxman...Weitzman claims the subpoenas violate Jackson's right of privacy and the physician/patient privilege." This is seen as a self-condemning bogus objection to the familial responsibility exercised by the Jackson Family in its desire to uncover the whole truth in connection with details associated with Michael's untimely, tragic death. "Why would estate lawyers have anything to say about this highly personal, private family matter?" asked a close family friend. Actually, this is the latest in a running gun battle of sorts between Joe Jackson and estate attorneys.
In a court document filed late last year (Case No. BP 117321) at the behest of Joe Jackson Oxman wrote: "Mr. Branca's Estate Plan was Negligent and the Product of Conflicts of Interest. Mr. Branca's estate plan under the supposed July 7, 2002, Will, was the product of gross conflicts of interest and gross negligence. Because of Branca's conflicts of interest, he will not take action to sue himself for his incompetence. The Michael Jackson estate in 2002 consisted of approximately: (1) Neverland Ranch worth $ 70 million; (2) The Hayvenhurst Residence worth $ 7 million; (3) Memorabilia worth $ 15 million (4) Song rights worth $ 10 million; (5) Merchandising rights worth $ 15 million; (6) Gary, Indian home worth Unknown. TOTAL $117 million. The 45% federal estate tax on the Estate's property will be astronomical.
"Mr. Branca failed to advise Michael Jackson of the tax consequences of the July 7, 2002, Will. Failure to place these assets in trust to reduce estate taxes and facilitate an orderly transfer of assets, was grossly negligent. No estate planner in the country would condone this kind of reckless estate plan. Branca's estate plan was the product of a conflicts of interest because he wanted more and more property in the estate to generate extraordinary executor's fees for himself who he named as Executor. The more property he left in Michael Jackson's estate, the higher his executor's fees and the attorney's fees earned from the estate. He failed to advise Michael Jackson of the tax consequences of leaving high valued assets in the Estate which would also earn Branca excessive executor's fees."
Observers note that, in an effort to discredit and embarrass Oxman estate attorneys quickly lashed back with the news that the long-time Jackson lawyer, who reportedly has been practicing law for over three decades, was disciplined twice, and is currently on judicial probation. Those close to the case say this latest attack on the part of estate attorneys is a red herring at best. Is the manner in which Michael died suspect?
"Michael Jackson WAS murdered": This is the headline that appeared in the January 10, 2010 issue of England's Daily Mail newspaper. Though seen as sensationalism, many believe that such a conclusion is not at all too far from the truth. The article noted: "Joe [Jackson] won't give up on getting justice for his son and a lawsuit is his focus." Media reports indicate that Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael's personal physician, may be arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter although the DA's office is denying the story. This is why I got the most recent call from CNN asking me to appear on JVM's show, which I did. Understandably, rumors continue to swirl. One of these calls attention to the alleged relationship between Dr. Conrad Murray and Joe Jackson. Murray was Joe Jackson's long-time cardiologist say the underground rumor mill. Is this really the case? Is an arrest imminent for Dr. Murray? Are other arrests in the offing? We'll just have to wait and see. By all means, please, stay tuned!
this is the newest article of his
http://firpocarr.com/id5.html
To me, those executives and special administrators should have no say. After all, they're only in charge of the will and estate. So they should just keep to that and mind their own buisness.
And after mentioning Murray and manslaughter, he says, "rumors continue to swirl." I think he is saying that story of murray and manslaughter is nothing but a rumor.
And at the very end, he mentions 'are other arrests in the offing?' Seems like he's trying to tell us something.
Wow! Thanks for sharing that! This makes me think we may have some hope!
So if the Estate exects excuse is, they don't want the docs made public, it means, that what was released months ago wasn't the real results?
Why would they object if the report says what has already been put out there by the media?
This is why I believe Katherine wanted to be an Admin for the estate. She would have had veto power if Branca went to sell the ATV catalogue. MJ involved Katherine in MANY aspects of his business dealings.
Taj is appointed to the estate board right?
Does he have veto power if they decide to sell the catalog?
I think taj went to court and testified that he had been working for Mj because he didn't trust a lot of people.That was reported by tabloids, but I don't remember it actually being verified as true. Does anyone know for sure?
So if the Estate exects excuse is, they don't want the docs made public, it means, that what was released months ago wasn't the real results?
Why would they object if the report says what has already been put out there by the media?
I think taj went to court and testified that he had been working for Mj because he didn't trust a lot of people.
What the hell does he mean we may not be able to handle the truth and it is not meant for public consumption.
Please. what is the mother 2 a flames story/ i have never heard of it.
Thanks, but did you mean a MOTH 2 a flame instead of a 'mother' to a flame?
:wub:yes, that's what i meant