The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom

Now that we have seen both 777 and 999 used repeatedly in relation to TII, the death, the burial, and the resurrection—let’s examine what happens if we add these numbers: 777 + 999 = 1776! For everyone in the USA, and many around the world, this number is instantly recognized as the year of the US Declaration of Independence: July 4, 1776 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence}. Could this have anything to do with the hoax?

Remember the MLK statement in TDRCAU: “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom [independence] in the history of our nation [USA].” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts} Does this mean that the hoax is mainly for people in the USA, and not around the world? No; MJ merely used things that already existed about the USA (MLK, and July 4) to represent the whole world. He also used London (O2), and V for Vendetta parallels (in London)—but the hoax is not mainly for England.

Speaking of V for Vendetta parallels, that was one of the recent redirects. Both V and MJ spoke in London, with a red curtain background, wearing black, and for the purpose of freedom from corrupt elites in the government, etc.

And did you notice the fireworks in V for Vendetta? Well, you can also see fireworks in the TII DVD—both on stage, just before Light Man, and also projected in the video shown during Light Man {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY; http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m10VO3DPICBZT5}. Furthermore, you can see very obvious red, white, and blue on Light Man immediately before the fireworks. Anyone from the USA will instantly know that these colors are unquestionably linked to the fourth of July, known as Independence Day {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(United_States)}.

The fifth of November is basically “Independence Day” in V for Vendetta; and exactly 4 months later, on March 5, MJ had his London press conference. Between the death on June 25, and the memorial on July 7, there is one and only one date that stands out on the American calendar: July 4! This day was also about 4 months after March 5, and about 4 months before November 5. MJ probably would’ve done the London press conference on November 5, except that would’ve been too early—and probably a little too obvious.

We do know that the very last words at the O2 press conference were: “... see you in July!” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo} Does this mean that Bamsday is July 4, 2010? Not necessarily; remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date. Nevertheless, he was not referring to July 2009—since that was long before 9-9-09, and certainly Bamsday would not be two months before the “resurrection”!
 
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Oh lord no they didn't just say the OZ tour...O__o LOL Both Ori and Payne ha ha ha and then erased it! Geez! Why...! She couldn't have been talking about NL because it already has a name! Just weird, and Travis, for him to tweet the same thing was so odd, was he also at that private event at NL? Was these tweets around the same time or day?
 
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Damn this is getting really hard!! I can't take it anymore. I want him back!!! Yesterday not today not tomorrow!!!:angel:
 
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P.T Barnum was born on July 5, 1810...so...this July 5th will be the 200th anniversary of his birth. I've thought for quite a long time now, that July 5th would be a big day with respect to the hoax.

Check out the Wikipedia article about P.T. Barnum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum

This is an excerpt:
Phineas Taylor Barnum (July 5, 1810 – April 7, 1891) was an American showman, businessman, and entertainer, remembered for promoting celebrated hoaxes and for founding the circus that became the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus.

These are some hoax-related items that point to the P.T. Barnum connection:
1) The Ringling Brothers circus arrived in Los Angeles on the same day as Michael's Memorial service.
2) The Elephants walked through the streets of Los Angeles in the early morning hours, past the fans who had camped overnight to attend the memorial.
3) The elephants (along with all the other circus animals) were housed at Staples Center, and they were there, downstairs, during the memorial.
4) There are pictures of Michael shopping with his children, and Prince is wearing a jacket with a picture of P.T. Barnum on the pocket.
5) The details of P.T Barnum death (he was terminally ill and specified that he be given specific lethal medication when all hope was lost) actually are uncannily similar to the information surrounding Michael's "death," including the timing of the medications given, the doctor and family member present.
6) P.T. Barnum was known as the "Prince of Entertainment," and for "The Greatest Show on Earth."
7) P.T Barnum was also an advocate for civil rights, and many other humanitarian causes.

I would bet that there are many, many more clues that tie P.T. Barnum to the details of this hoax.

I will be keeping my eye on July 5, 2010..... "See you in July"
 
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Please could you answer this for me.
The thing with the kids and Alejandra moving out of Katherines house is really bothering me.
Why (if PPB are just temporarily there) would they find another place for them to live and pay for that?

I can't help but losing more of my faith every day.


Edit: I follow Timor on Twitter and this comment on the photo really made me laugh
"wow u look sooo baaad ;) How's Michael by the way? Does he like your tattoos?"

http://tweetphoto.com/20771987
 
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^^Bamsday is the day when Michael will return. At the end of TII, Michael talks about coming back in his own time and.......BAM!
 
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oh,thanks, i hadn't seen that,
(quickly scrambles to find TII dvd!)
 
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I think thats it, in the very end! :)

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It looks to me as if Kenny becomes quite nervous right at the end, his body language immediately after being asked that question shows it.:unsure:
He rubs his legs, takes a deep breath, even stutters slightly.:bugeyed

''Lets just leave at that for now.'':wub:
 
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It looks to me as if Kenny becomes quite nervous right at the end, his body language immediately after being asked that question shows it.:unsure:
He rubs his legs, takes a deep breath, even stutters slightly.:bugeyed

''Lets just leave at that for now.'':wub:

I know! its weird! ..reminds me of a show I was watching a few days ago, its called "Lie to me" where this guy is a specialist knowing when people are lieing judging from their body language, face expressions and stuff.. we should give him a call lol!

but ya, his answer / body language is suspicious..
 
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^^^^^ short video discussing the way peoples body language can portray possible deception.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRQyJbMhkA

Couldnt seem to post the actual video. :doh:

hmm, interesting video.. and some of the things she said match to Kenny..

p.s. Thanks to pac I know how to post the video lol:

Let's take your link, if i had wanted to post the video here, i would have focused on the part after "v=" i.e "pXRQyJbMhkA".

Step 2:

paste it between [*YOUTUBE*] and [*/YOUTUBE*] like this: [*YOUTUBE*]pXRQyJbMhkA[*/YOUTUBE*] without the *

Thats the way i do it here. On maxjax there's a Youtube button if you click on "Go advanced" which will type the [*YOUTUBE*][*/YOUTUBE*] for you.

So here :D

[YOUTUBE]pXRQyJbMhkA[/YOUTUBE]
 
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I can't help but losing more of my faith every day.


Edit: I follow Timor on Twitter and this comment on the photo really made me laugh
"wow u look sooo baaad ;) How's Michael by the way? Does he like your tattoos?"

http://tweetphoto.com/20771987

:hug:

haha ya that comment is funny! :giggle:

What Timor said about this photo: "This is the outfit I start the show with....wonder how it ends??? " ...the same thing we're wondering :cheeky: ..and when :timer:
 
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Remember MJ & the Coke Connection:
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Do you remember the touching response of the dancer, on the last selection in the show This is it? He was so happy that he will work with Michael Jackson …
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Amazing response, given its long-standing and close contact with family Jackson …
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Do you remember the touching response of the dancer, on the last selection in the show This is it? He was so happy that he will work with Michael Jackson …
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Amazing response, given its long-standing and close contact with family Jackson …
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http://vkontakte.ru/photo21819661_118309963
Misha-Gabriel-Janet-Jackson-janet-jackson-10957677-600-511.jpg

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:bugeyed :blink:

is that really him there in that pic with Janet? ..he looks different :scratch: ..probably just the hair..
 
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So the radio show is still going on but I made some notes during the time when a person with medical background called the show -

- She has written a 7 page analysis of the autopsy report...some points..

- Autopsy report looks like 3 autopsies chopped together.

- Pg46 blood taken from hospital, labelled with someone elses name

- Tag on left toe -same name as on blood sample, and file number on that toe different to the file number on the other toe.

- The body had an extra rib - birth defect, means the person would have dificulty moving right hand, in her opinion this person would not be a dancer - would feel numb sensation in arm and have problem dancing.

- The lung problems mentioned in autopsy would mean the person wouldn't be able to run up the stairs, would not be able to hit those high notes without coughing.

- No mentions/signs of Lupus in report.
 
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So the radio show is still going on but I made some notes during the time when a person with medical background called the show -

- She has written a 7 page analysis of the autopsy report...some points..

- Autopsy report looks like 3 autopsies chopped together.

- Pg46 blood taken from hospital, labelled with someone elses name

- Tag on left toe -same name as on blood sample, and file number on that toe different to the file number on the other toe.

- The body had an extra rib - birth defect, means the person would have dificulty moving right hand, in her opinion this person would not be a dancer - would feel numb sensation in arm and have problem dancing.

- The lung problems mentioned in autopsy would mean the person wouldn't be able to run up the stairs, would not be able to hit those high notes without coughing.

- No mentions/signs of Lupus in report.

I heard this too and posted similar in the Coroners Report thread.

Regarding the blood sample, the name Gershwin is a Dr.

Ive been saying for a while that the report was made up from several autopsy's and I fought often with Beachlover re Lupus too.
 
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- The body had an extra rib - birth defect, means the person would have dificulty moving right hand, in her opinion this person would not be a dancer - would feel numb sensation in arm and have problem dancing.
Wow, this is the autopsy report (extra rib)? I do not remember reading that. :scratch:


- No mentions/signs of Lupus in report.
Well, I have a friend who is a doctor and I showed the autopsy report. In her opinion, lupus had to be mentioned in the report, yes. Even that was not the cause of death.


Rockin, who was in that program was Maura who makes videos hoax? Wow, she said that in the movie, the guy in orange pants is not Michael? lol! I do not agree with that. For me, it's Michael in the entire movie. Only the SC has a double.
 
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“My funeral will be the Greatest Show on Earth. This is what I want”.
Michael Jackson
So, PROLOGUE…
BARNUM CIRCUS


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Since the beginning of the investigation, the name of Barnum has been appearing here and there. Several sources have been constantly reminding us that “The autography of P.T. Barnum is Michael’s Bible”.
It was first mentioned by a secret informer on Larry King blog on the 17th of August. Michael’s make-up assistant Karen Faye confirms it as well. The re-direction of Thisisalsoit sends us to Barnum. Finally rabbi Shmuley’s interview with Michael is released and we can read the following words:
Shmuley Boteach: And your career is built on that and I’m not just saying it to flatter you. It’s true, I am amazed at it. So talk to me about mystery. How do you know this, where did it come to you, that power of that which is concealed?
Michael Jackson: Wow, you are so observant. It’s amazing how you notice details. Um, I studied… I love psychology, I love magic, I love… I love real beauty. I love real talent. I love when something’s miraculous; when something’s so beautiful you shouldn’t get it. What I like about Halley’s Comet, and I always say it to my lawyer, Halley’s Comet is no more of a miracle than the moon or the sun. But we make a big deal out of it because you see it once in a lifetime and everybody’s out there to see it. You know astronomers and fans and people and it’s this thing that circles around the solar system but you see it once in a lifetime. If it happened every night nobody would care, but to me the moon is just as miraculous. I always talk about deer and dogs and cats. A lot of people go, “There is a deer! There’s a…” ‘cause they are shy, they’re always hidden. It’s a big deal to see a deer, I mean, and I appreciate that, how people should appreciate the real ability and I always say that I don’t care if you are the most talented person in the world, if you come on the television every day people will regurgitate you. You have to know how to play your audience. You have to know that and it’s true, Shmuley. And it’s not just a game. But it’s real for me, it’s real for me. It really is.
SB: How do you know that? For example, I had to be taught this. I write about it a lot in my books but I began to develop a lot of my ideas on it from insights from other writers, thinkers, philosophers, etc.
MJ: If you remain mysterious, people will be more interested, yeah.
MJ: I just love, I do love the power of mystery, I really do. I think it’s very powerful.
SB: Is it spiritual? What is it?
MJ: It’s spiritual, it’s, it’s people conjure up all these ideas, people create them themselves. I mean they used to say, you know, Howard Hughes is up there and he owns the hotel but he stays on that floor, he doesn’t come down. He’s in the dark, he’s in the corner in the bed with long nails and hair down to here and he’s hooked to an IV. So the brain would just go crazy conjuring up all kinds of crazy stories, and I love that. I love Howard Hughes ‘cause he played this big thing. I mean, to me he’s like one of my masters. But, I don’t know, this is the first time I’ve ever said this, Shmuley, I love Howard, he is a genius.
SB: Because what? Because he knew the power of mystery?

MJ: How to play people, yeah. He knew how to make the public interested. P.T. Barnum was pretty good at it himself.
SB: But with you, when you say it’s become about playing the public, is it as simple as withdrawal and they want more? And more ways how to reveal yourself?
MJ: It’s rhythm and timing. You have to know what you’re doing. Like you never see me on award show saying, “The nominees are… ” And I get asked to do every show. Now they don’t even ask. They know I don’t do it. Or to host the show or to come out and say like, “Coming up next, Michael Jackson to present the record of the year.” You never see me coming out and doing the nominees. I don’t do it. They know not to even ask me. It’s not what I do.
(This part of the interview was remarked by Klara Zakharovna on forum http://jacksonlive.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=620)
According to the media, Michael read the book of Barnum in 1980, but it is obvious that Michael has been inspired by Barnum since his childhood.
La Estrella, “It turned out that Michael wrote a very beautiful song when a child, what do you think the name of the song is???” The name of the song is Greatest Show on Earth!
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Michael Jackson – Greatest Show on Earth
Love is like a circus and a carnival is beautiful to see
Love can turn your mind around like ferris wheels and spinning carosels
Youll be a part of the world of make believe
Flying high like a man on a trapeze
Oh, everyday is a holiday
Get your tickets right away
Love, love, love
Is the greatest show on earth
The fantasy you see is like a child again through rainbow colored eyes
Step right up its circus time and get your moneys worth of love today
Youll be a part of the world of make believe
Flying high like a man on a trapeze
Everyday is a holiday
Get your tickets right away
Love, love, yea
Is the greatest show on earth
Everyday is a holiday
Get your tickets right away
Love, love, love
Is the greatest show on earth
Love, love, love
Is the greatest show on earth (yea e yea)
Love, love, yea
Is the greatest show on earth
Love, love, yea
Most probably, Barnum has played a significant role in Michael’s life. Like, he had hit his fancy!
Michael has always admired talented and vivid people. That’s why he paid attention to the historic personality of Barnum.
Later on Michael would even use the portrait of Barnum on the cover for his “Dangerous” album.
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PHINEAS TAYLOR BARNUM’s files
He was an American showman, businessman, and entertainer, remembered for promoting celebrated hoaxes and for founding the circus that became the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. Born in Bethel, Connecticut, Barnum became a small-business owner in his early twenties, and founded a weekly paper, The Herald of Freedom, in Danbury in 1829. He moved to New York City in 1834 and embarked on an entertainment career, first with a variety troupe called “Barnum’s Grand Scientific and Musical Theater”, and soon after by purchasing Scudder’s American Museum, which he renamed after himself. Barnum used the museum as a platform to promote hoaxes and human curiosities such as the “”Feejee” mermaid” and “General Tom Thumb.” A much-cited experience of Barnum as a legitimate impresario was his engagement of Jenny Lind. The tour began with the concert at Castle Garden on September 11, 1850 and turned out a success, recouping Barnum four times his investment.
Barnum did not enter the circus business until late in his career (he was 61). In Delavan, Wisconsin in 1871 with William Cameron Coup, he established “P. T. Barnum’s Grand Traveling Museum, Menagerie, Caravan & Hippodrome”, a traveling circus, menagerie and museum of “freaks”, which by 1872 was billing itself as “The Greatest Show on Earth“. It went through various names: “P.T. Barnum’s Travelling World’s Fair, Great Roman Hippodrome and Greatest Show On Earth”, and after an 1881 merger with James Bailey. He and Bailey split up again in 1885, but came back together in 1888 with the “Barnum & Bailey Greatest Show On Earth”, later “Barnum & Bailey Circus“, which toured the world. The show’s primary attraction was Jumbo, an African elephant he purchased in 1882 from the London Zoo and who died in a train wreck. Jumbo eventually became the mascot of Tufts University, in honor of a donation from Barnum in 1882.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum
The Forer effect (also called the Barnum Effect after P. T. Barnum‘s observation that “we’ve got something for everyone”) is the observation that individuals will give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically for them, but are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people.
These statements later became known as Barnum statements after P.T. Barnum, who used them in his performances, allegedly stating “There’s a Sucker Born Every Minute.” This, if he had said it, would be reference to the fact that Barnum statements can gull people into thinking they have been accurately assessed by the speaker or test when in fact the outcome could apply to anyone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect

EXAMPLES
The Brick Man
Barnum knew the power of mystery. An unemployed man came to his museum and asked Barnum for a job. Barnum handed the man five bricks and instructed him to solemnly place the bricks in various places around the outside of the museum. As he went from spot to spot, he was to replace the brick at each spot with another one that he was carrying. He was to answer no questions, speak to no one, and seem to be deaf and dumb. Once an hour, he was to enter the museum, walk right next to the ticket taker, seem to pay the fee, and then proceed through the museum and out the door. A crowd began to form, watching the man and wondering what he was doing. Many of the crowds followed him into the museum just to see what was going on. In fact, the police had to ask Barnum to stop the man, because the crowds that he was creating were stopping traffic.
Joice Heth, 161 year old slave and Nanny to George Washington
Read the supposed autobiography of Joice Heth
Joice Heth archive at the Lost Museum
In 1835, Barnum displayed Joice Heth, a 161 year old slave woman who was (supposedly) the nanny to George Washington. This was a big hit for quite a while, and Barnum took Joice Heth on tour. When sales began to flag in Boston, he wrote an anonymous letter to the newspaper, claiming that Heth wasn’t a person at all, but a whale bone and India rubber automaton. This caused a Joice Heth furor again, as the people who had seen her previously wanted to see if they’d been taken in, and the people who missed her needed to see for themselves what the hubbub was all about. Heth died of natural causes in 1836. Barnum staged a public autopsy, and it was discovered that Heth could not have been more than 80 years old. Barnum went one further, and then suggested that Heth was still alive, that the woman that died was not the real Joice Heth. This was Barnum’s first foray into show business, and he proved to be a natural promoter. In his autobiography, Barnum claimed that he believed Joice Heth to be exactly what he said, and that it was he who was deceived.
http://www.ptbarnum.org/humbugs.html
Barnum knew every important person of his time, from presidents and queens to celebrities and inventors. He went buffalo hunting with General Custer. He was friends with Mark Twain and Abe Lincoln. He took unknowns and made them international stars. He built the most unusual mansion in the country, watched it burn to the ground, and built yet another. A total of five huge fires wiped him out—temporarily. Yet he got back on his feet almost instantly. He was a famous speaker, a bestselling author, a politician, a showman, an investor, an entrepreneur, and a marketing genius. He was also the father of advertising.
He also lost his wife, and two children. Yet Barnum never seemed to bat an eye. He quickly recovered, and even remarried a woman forty years younger than himself. His inner strength came from an unshakable faith that everything happened for a good reason. The simple marker over his grave says, “Not my will, but thine, be done.” His faith helped him survive and prosper in business.
http://www.ltbn.com/hall_of_fame/Barnum.html
 
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I am sorry for saying this, I really am and some of you may hate me ,but if Michael really did this - and even worse, if he did it for the sake of ENTERTAINMENT... he is CRAZY. (given that he is alive and that he really was capable of all this,which I doubt)
 
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Nobody knows why Michael did this so to jump to conclusions such as entertainment is not fair. This is just your assumption.
 
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I heard this too and posted similar in the Coroners Report thread.

Regarding the blood sample, the name Gershwin is a Dr.

Ive been saying for a while that the report was made up from several autopsy's and I fought often with Beachlover re Lupus too.

So what does that mean, is it normal? The woman who called in said there were 2 toe tags, one with the same name as that, and another with a different number to the other toe tag.

Wow, this is the autopsy report (extra rib)? I do not remember reading that. :scratch:

Well, I have a friend who is a doctor and I showed the autopsy report. In her opinion, lupus had to be mentioned in the report, yes. Even that was not the cause of death.


Rockin, who was in that program was Maura who makes videos hoax? Wow, she said that in the movie, the guy in orange pants is not Michael? lol! I do not agree with that. For me, it's Michael in the entire movie. Only the SC has a double.

I don't remember that either.... *sigh* I think I'll have to look at the autopsy report again.. :(

I didn't listen to the whole show but the people being interviewed were Tom (pianogames), Maura (mjfanforeverandaday) and two other people who make hoax videos. There were also people who called into the show - like the lady who said she had a medical background, whose comments I posted.

About Maura's beliefs about 'Orange Pants'.. I know I disagree too.. I feel the same as you that it's Michael the whole movie. Maura actually made a video saying something like 'It's about time people face facts and accept that Michael used doubles in This Is It', when I made a simple comment saying 'How you can state as fact that Michael used doubles in TII?' She replied rudely - 'When the f*** did I state it as fact?! If you don't like my opinion tough s***.' I pointed out to her that she did in fact state it in her video and I quoted what she'd said. She then deleted my comments! :lol: .. she has also delete my comments when I post actual correct information which goes against some things she has said in some of her videos.
 
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I am sorry for saying this, I really am and some of you may hate me ,but if Michael really did this - and even worse, if he did it for the sake of ENTERTAINMENT... he is CRAZY. (given that he is alive and that he really was capable of all this,which I doubt)

There is no hate in this thread :)
 
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I don't remember that either.... *sigh* I think I'll have to look at the autopsy report again.. :(
I really do not remember reading about it read the report and any believer to talk about it. Strange. :scratch:


I didn't listen to the whole show but the people being interviewed were Tom (pianogames), Maura (mjfanforeverandaday) and two other people who make hoax videos. There were also people who called into the show - like the lady who said she had a medical background, whose comments I posted.

About Maura's beliefs about 'Orange Pants'.. I know I disagree too.. I feel the same as you that it's Michael the whole movie. Maura actually made a video saying something like 'It's about time people face facts and accept that Michael used doubles in This Is It', when I made a simple comment saying 'How you can state as fact that Michael used doubles in TII?' She replied rudely - 'When the f*** did I state it as fact?! If you don't like my opinion tough s***.' I pointed out to her that she did in fact state it in her video and I quoted what she'd said. She then deleted my comments! :lol: .. she has also delete my comments when I post actual correct information which goes against some things she has said in some of her videos.
PianoGomes? :bugeyed :doh: I bet he must have talked about his encounter with the Uri. :smilerolleyes: -_-

Many belilevers want to find clues which does not exist. lol! :smilerolleyes: -_- Definitely for me it's Michael in the entire movie. It is impossible to find an "impersonator" that is soooooo similar to Michael and perfect physically. :doh:
 
Re: The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and other theories

Tom doesnt shut up about Uri lol

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Re: The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and other theories

So what does that mean, is it normal? The woman who called in said there were 2 toe tags, one with the same name as that, and another with a different number to the other toe tag.

No its not normal. They should have the same toe tag that clearly states Michael Jackson. Also they wouldnt have different numbers.

Lastly, the Gershwins & UCLA date back to 1936:
“Strike Up the Band for UCLA,” written by George and Ira Gershwin, was adopted from their showtune “Strike Up the Band.” It was presented to UCLA at an All-University Sing held in Royce Hall during fall 1936.
http://www.uclahistoryproject.ucla.edu/Songs/StrikeuptheBand.html

Here is Lionel Ritchie accepting the Gershwin award in 2008:
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Gershwin on the autopsy was a clue IMO Gershwin = showtune = performance? I dunno.

It turns out that George and Ira have a star on walk of fame:
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Associated Press
Music
North side of the 7100 block of Hollywood Boulevard

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George & Ira Gershwin

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Academy Awards

Year Category Work
1937 Best Song "They Can't Take That Away From Me" from Shall We Dance Nomination* 1944 Best Song "Long Ago and Far Away" from Cover Girl Nomination* 1954 Best Song "The Man That Got Away" from A Star Is Born Nomination* * A joint nomination shared with other people.

Notice Glendale & Hollywood Hills?
 
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