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Official Statement From The Estate Of Michael Jackson To The Fans

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No sale........

Im cancelling my pre-order and will be dowloading this album for free. These people are lieing to you and you cant see it. Thats a damn shame.
 
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SunsetDriver said:
That's exactly the point.
Michael's former producers/collaborators listened and judged the original demo with raw vocals.
Fans listened and judged the over-processed version.
So there's no comparison.

Estate should release the original demo they listened to.
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Exactly!
 
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L.T.D said:
No sale........

Im cancelling my pre-order and will be dowloading this album for free. These people are lieing to you and you cant see it. Thats a damn shame.
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MASSIVE 'FAIL'!

Do what you want/believe to be right. Others will do the same without you getting upset about it.

How many times have you cancelled that order now? There must be something wrong with the website you ordered it from - if you have to go and do it again!!
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Very good article, but they keep believing it's Malachi? Not sure i agree about the lyrics, they think the bold parts were MJ, i'm not sure. I was surprised to read that about Sony, i never knew Michael stayed anti-Sony till his dying day.
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I dunno who is singing, I just know it's not MJ. I only hear him in the ad libs poached from his other songs. I think the essence of what they're saying is right though, just not the exact detail.

babykinsilk05 said:
Only in your head would the statement ever change to that lol
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Yeah only me and thousands of other fans. It'll all come out one day.
 
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GeorgeDK said:
Lol, an on-line poll would not be reliable, as it would not only attract the fans ;-)
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I they don't fix up the voting (like they did on TMZ page) it would be ok! Even non-fant can hear that this is not MJ. Even my father said "that is not MJ"!
 
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I think it's time to move on.

Some fans think it's not MJ. Some fans think it is MJ. A lot of fans don't know what the hell to think.

Either way, this is happening. The songs are going to be on the album. Move on.
 
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L.T.D said:
No sale........

Im cancelling my pre-order and will be dowloading this album for free. These people are lieing to you and you cant see it. Thats a damn shame.
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The other tracks are still Michael's work. So I suggest rather to buy those genuine tracks online rather than sabotaging it as a whole. I will only sabotage the Cascio tracks.
 
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L.T.D said:
No sale........

Im cancelling my pre-order and will be dowloading this album for free. These people are lieing to you and you cant see it. Thats a damn shame.
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You are right, but if they remove those songs I will buy it and everyone should buy it. And if they don't I will not download it for free because there will be some real MJ tracks so I will download those real songs from i-tunes.
 
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deano said:
MASSIVE 'FAIL'!

Do what you want/believe to be right. Others will do the same without you getting upset about it.

How many times have you cancelled that order now? There must be something wrong with the website you ordered it from - if you have to go and do it again!!
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I havent cancelled it once. I have never said i'd cancelled my order. I was giving the estate or Sony a chance to release a statement first admitting it wasnt Michael. They didnt, so now I will be cancelling my pre-order.

Dont really see how thats a 'fail'.... :\
 
Do you really make sense out of this statement? I feel it really says nothing different from the article we read yesterday at the Huffington post.

Huffington yesterday:

In addition, at the request of John Branca and John McClain, Howard Weitzman retained one of the best known forensic musicologists in the nation to listen to the a cappella vocals and compare them with a cappella vocals from previously known Jackson songs. This expert performed waveform analysis, an objective scientific procedure, and found that all of the vocals were the voice of Michael Jackson.
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The Estate today

The Estate then retained one of the best-known forensic musicologists in the nation to listen to the vocals without any instrumental accompaniment (“a cappella”), and to compare them with a cappella vocals from previous Michael songs. This expert performed waveform analysis, an objective scientific test used to determine audio authenticity, on the Cascio tracks, as well as previously released tracks with Michael’s voice, and reported that ALL of the lead vocals analyzed (which included Cascio tracks) were the voice of Michael Jackson.
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Some conclusions:

1) The guy posting in the Hufftington REALLY HAS INFORMATION FROM THE INSIDE. This is a source to be trusted, in my opinion. I think this is importan, for in these times of confussion, I need something more reliable :D.

2) We MJ fans were not wrong. There's not MJ only singing at BN. That's our first impression and see!! It didn't take more than a milisecond.

3) As already stated, if they were so sure, then why the controversy, and why all this studies?

4) I understand only the Cascio tracks are problematic. That's good. Then I can buy just the valid tracks :)

5) The Estatement really says nothing and leaves all to the fans. It's like: "we have done our best, now you do what you want to do", but if you read between the lines, they are not making a final, strong, clear statement saying YES, THIS IS MICHAEL WITHOUT ANY DOUBTS. Instead, they acknowledge our concerns and say it's US, not the others, who should decide.

6) It's good to have formal confirmation about Porte. Geeeezzz!! MJ fans can't be fooled.

7) It's good to know that my hears and my heart can't be fooled. I knew that was not MJ, but some other guy. It's good they explain there's MJ plus Porte.


So BN is, indeed, a track sang by MJ and by Porte. Not only a MJ track. Do we want it? Well, we can all decide.
 
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ok nice that we know for sure its michael :)
 
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deano said:
MASSIVE 'FAIL'!

Do what you want/believe to be right. Others will do the same without you getting upset about it.

How many times have you cancelled that order now? There must be something wrong with the website you ordered it from - if you have to go and do it again!!
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The only massive fail is everything you post. You contribute absolutely nothing here. You love Sony to bits and believe their every word, we get that now, it's getting old though. Plus you trying to be funny , now THAT is a massive fail. Respect other people's opinions or simply...leave, i wouldn't mind that.

Laura_Jo said:
I dunno who is singing, I just know it's not MJ. I only hear him in the ad libs poached from his other songs. I think the essence of what they're saying is right though, just not the exact detail.



Yeah only me and thousands of other fans. It'll all come out one day.
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Yep, i agree. I don't hear MJ at all..except for the ad libs. Its their word against ours at the end of the day, and i doubt the fans can choose what songs will be on there, we aren't the judge. That's bollocks.
 
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and now some "fan" wants to stole his song, so stole Mj and his kids it's better evry day
 
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wow lots of fans wont buy this album.. that makes me sad
 
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zacky89 said:
Personlly i could not care less about them,
they were mad especially 3T felt like they were betrayed by Michael
when he did not record with them but recorded with The Cascios
It feels like The Jacksons all over again, remember when Michael didnt wanna perform with them back in the 80s and Michael wanted to go solo, because he loved them they were his brothers but he needed something bigger and thats why he had to continue on his own.
and 3T lets be honest since the 90s they have never managed to produce anything good
so why would Michael lower himself to their standards.
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So the cascio's standard are excellent, If they are that good why have they not broken into the industry.BN and monster snippet is crap
 
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I can understand why you are worried, it's all so confusing for all fans!
But i still don't believe it's Mike sorry. You can hear two different voices indeed.
Some are mikes maybe but most of it is fake in BN.
A lot of copy/paste work here. ;-(
 
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FAKE SONGS !!

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I really wish I could believe that BN is mostly Michael's vocals but I just can't make my ears believe it no matter how hard I try. I definitely don't believe that the verses are all his voice, especially the "Everybody wantin' a piece of Michael Jackson" parts and some other parts too. From the first moment I heard it I knew something was terrible wrong and I didn't feel Michael's presence and passion in the song. I too would like to hear a raw demo of which vocals were actually his. I'll only be buying the tracks that sound authentic to me through Itunes when it comes out, but this is making me feel very sad and concerned about the new album and future projects. Something's fishy when they first claimed that it was 100% Michael then later confessed that someone else is also singing on the track.
 
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It does not matter if it is or if it is not Michael singing in BN.This absurd situation should have and could have been avoided.If this had been the 5th posthumous album,it wouldn't have mattered that much,but it is the first.Not only that,it's the first "new" album in 9 years.The anticipation is very high!
There was never so much debate between fans regarding a song!NEVER!And there shouldn't have been! Everybody should have been happy and excited now,not worried,angry or disappointed...
I've been a fan for more than 15 years and I never had doubts when listening to one of Michael's traks that "it might not be him singing".I AM going to buy "Michael'", I am supporting it,I want to hear the new songs,but I don't think this is Ok.There shouldn't have been any doubt regarding the authenticity of any of the songs.
 
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I am going to buy the album for the songs that are Mike. We all know which songs are Mike and let them think they can get over on us because there not.
 
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I still don't believe "Breaking News" is Michael. Michael's brother Jackie said on Twitter, that both he and John McClain tride the get Breaking News removed from the new album.

I don't think the estate are doing a good job looking after Michael's music. I think the album over for "Michael" is rubbish and uninspiring. It's just a series of very well known images of Michael from 1979-91, based in the montages of the Leave Me Alone video and Dangerous album cover. The illustrator who designed the album cover added nothing we haven't already seen before. Also the name "Michael" for the album in a dull "Times Rome" font inspiring. Michael always used a striking font for the graphics of his albums from "Off The Wall" through to "Invincible", he even played with the spelling, like having History spelt in more upper as HIStory.

This whole project is being put together in a very rushed and unprofessional manner. I'll buy the new album, but I don't think it will up to the standard it should be considering, Michael's estate and Sony don't know what they are doing, and aren't going for the high quality they should do. Out of respect for Michael's family and us fans, Sony should remove Breaking News and any other questionable tracks that don't sound like Michael from the album.
 
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OnirMJ said:
You are right, but if they remove those songs I will buy it and everyone should buy it. And if they don't I will not download it for free because there will be some real MJ tracks so I will download those real songs from i-tunes.
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If they remove the songs then I can allways just place a new order. But until then this whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.

I mean, even if the songs are real by some miracle...there is allways that doubt there and it just taints the entire thing.

My gut tells me that Michael didnt even have anything to do with this song........I dont care what the statement says.
 
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zacky89 said:
Personlly i could not care less about them,
they were mad especially 3T felt like they were betrayed by Michael
when he did not record with them but recorded with The Cascios
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Seems like you buy everything Roger Friedman claims then. You know, the same guy who said Invincible was a bad album, yet he is praising crap like the Cascio songs. So much about him.

That claim about 3T doing it because they were jealous of the Cascios sounded BS the first time I heard it from Friedman and at the time I was not yet on the family's side yet (this was before BN was released). But that part in RF's article already sounded fishy to me. Michael worked with hundreds of artists in his life, how come the 3T are only jealous of the Cascios? It doesn't make any sense.
 
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This statement doesn't clarify anything.
I still don't believe it's Michael singing simply because that's not his voice.
And since there are all these doubts and speculations the only logical thing to do is to not release those 3 Cascio songs on the album.
It would be really easy, I don't understand why they insist in wanting to put those songs on the album.
I'll keep believing my ears.
 
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It is really hard to follow these threads.
So...we have a confirmation that it is Michael. Some vocals added.
Those who said " it is NOT Michael " now say " it is 50% Michael."
Please stop comparing this song to the earlier Michael"s songs, really. This song does not have to sound like it is from "93, or "01.
If nobody else, the fans should know that Michael was allways exploring new ways and that he was a pioneer. He said that himself a million times.
I leave the option open that something was added on the track....idk, I am not an expert.
But all this fuss about canceling the orders and boycoting the new album from our Michael..........that was absolutely OUTRAGEOUS in my opinion.
 
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