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You should read what Teddy Riley has to say about Taryll's ridiculous remarks.
Also note that Taryll doesn't take this to court as he doesn't seem to have any evidence, he rather likes spreading false info through twitter.
Taryll is one of Tito's sons and all the Jacksons brothers were only taking advantage from Michael throughout the years. Look at the TV show the Jacksons brothers did, only months after Michael has passed away so untimely.
When the Jacksons were honored as BMI Icons in 2008, Michael was the only one that didn't want to attend.
In 1995 the brothers tried to get Michael for a new reunion album titled "Humanity" (documents of this have been leaked), but Michael declined.
Also note that Taryll doesn't take this to court as he doesn't seem to have any evidence, he rather likes spreading false info through twitter.
Taryll is one of Tito's sons and all the Jacksons brothers were only taking advantage from Michael throughout the years. Look at the TV show the Jacksons brothers did, only months after Michael has passed away so untimely.
When the Jacksons were honored as BMI Icons in 2008, Michael was the only one that didn't want to attend.
In 1995 the brothers tried to get Michael for a new reunion album titled "Humanity" (documents of this have been leaked), but Michael declined.
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And I hate to have to go here but I am going too. If the family had no problem cutting Michael up again for another autopsy which said the very same thing the coroner said then what is the issue hiring your own forensic expert to listen to these songs?
there's even more to the pattern.
For example we have seen that Joe Jackson claim that the will is fake on media but in his lawsuit against the executors he never made that claim - in other words the claims they make in the media do not translate into legal actions.
secondly rather than choosing to prove that Michael's signature on the will is a forgery he chose to claim that Branca is a fraud and betrayer - in other words they prefer character attacks over any other kind of evidence.
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I just don't understand why some of you bring in The Jacksons or the Cascios?????
Who cares what they say? What do your ears say?
If they say it's Michael, then fine.
If they say it is not Michael on those three tracks like mine, than all we are looking for is some evidence and explanation without bothering anyone or attacking anyone's opinion.
Fans who have hard time to recognize their idol are entitled to have some proof, because as a matter of fact the three tracks do sound different. And if it is Michael singing they wouldn't have hard time to prove it. Show the demos or video recording sessions in the studio, show something tangible that we can believe betyond our doubt.
No need to go to court for that. If it's authentic why is it so hard to show the demos?
If the demos are destroyed, now don't you find it strange then?
Who cares what they say? What do your ears say?
If they say it's Michael, then fine.
If they say it is not Michael on those three tracks like mine, than all we are looking for is some evidence and explanation without bothering anyone or attacking anyone's opinion.
Fans who have hard time to recognize their idol are entitled to have some proof, because as a matter of fact the three tracks do sound different. And if it is Michael singing they wouldn't have hard time to prove it. Show the demos or video recording sessions in the studio, show something tangible that we can believe betyond our doubt.
No need to go to court for that. If it's authentic why is it so hard to show the demos?
If the demos are destroyed, now don't you find it strange then?
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You are right.
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We dont need proof you just dont realised the gravity of saying its not michael.
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We are not talking about few individuals here, but about a mass of people questioning the tracks. That is the real gravity.
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Me, personally, my issue is not necessarily with the LATEST target, i.e. Jacksons vs. Casicos. The Casico family is just the latest target. When the movie came out, Kenny Ortega was the target. (It's like a never ending saga.)
My issue is why do some of the family members feel the need to target Sony, Branca, AEG, all of the folks responsible for the This Is It movie, and Teddy Reilly to name a few.
When REAL targets like Howard Mann, Leonard Rowe, Brian Oxman, CONRAD MURRAY, Klein, Marc Lester, that Karate Guy, the heavy set guy who works in Klein's office, to name a few. Why do these guys get a free pass on the Jackson Family Twitter accounts?
When that guy from Klein's office made those "claims," I was looking for the Jackson family to issue a severe TWITTER beatdown, but all we heard were crickets!
For me the pattern that has taken shape speaks for itself. When you look at one list of targets and the other list of targets you can CLEARLY see what the difference is, in my opinion, i.e. $$$$$.
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The people questioning these songs is way more than the people questioning This Is It. I don't even remember what the specific claims were against This Is It.
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I remember that.. Jermaine didn't show up either. I do remember Marlon making a snide comment when he was asked where MJ was. Marlon said something like he was somewhere 'riding a camel or a llama' or something like that. I think they were mad at Mike for not doing that family reunion show with them
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I understand, but please do not associate fans with the Jacksons or the Cascio.
We have nothing to do with them. We all are individuals with our own opinions. It is not because some of us question the tracks that we question everything.
Personally I never questioned the authencity of This Is It, or anything else. It is the first time in my life, after being a fan for 25 years that I have hard times to recognize the one that I 've been listening to every day. And the funny thing is that I don't have a slightest doubt on the remaining 7 tracks that it is MJ. Even funnier is that I am not alone to believe this from my own point of view. People have come here and witnessed the same experience without necessarily knowing who said what. Without even knowing who were the Cascios or what Taryll or Jermaine or Tito or Randy or who cares said.
We shouldn't mix the issues and fight.
All we realize is that there are people who are confused about the tracks. There is no hate. just confusion. So we need objective criteria and not attacks saying that we are part of conspiracy theorist. It become sridiculous to accuse us for questioning some tracks!
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I humbly disagree.
First of all, Michael's OWN FATHER said that they used a FAKE MJ in order to make the movie. Said he wouldn't support it, at the same time he was charging fans $3,000 if they wanted to watch the FAKE movie with him. LOL!
Then you had a gaggle of fans who set-up an INTERNET campaign called "This Is NOT It," which eventually got picked up by the media.
In my opinion, the "This Is NOT It" campaign was a doozy! Including the BLOOD dripping down their campaign posters. WOW!
Oh and they also wanted Kenny Ortega's head on a platter.
actually no.
I said that I worked with a music band before and I have experienced their work process. They worked on ideas a lot in their home studio (which was far more advanced then the Cascio's). Sometimes they would record tens of takes of different ideas of songs. They would go back to them and listen to them over time and delete the ones that they no longer felt good or needed. In the end they would only maintain 1-2 best recordings/ideas/versions.
Plus with all the possibility of leaking of the songs , in my personal experience I haven't seen musicians maintaining too many copies of anything (especially if they are working tracks and in low quality). anything was either kept securely or destroyed once they weren't needed anymore.
Note: we for example maintained a personal photographer and videographer that captured every single performance. as an assistant it was my duty to go through pictures and videos and delete/destroy anything that wasn't up to the band's liking and quality standards. They never maintained the logic of "let's archive anything and everything" , their logic was more like "if it's not good it's got to go".
Calotte12
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I wonder why we listen to this guy, hes MJ nephew so what ?
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As someone who had more than their share of TINI, allow me to remind everyone.
They claimed Michael was underweight, drugged up, and control by AEG. When the autopsy was leaked, they refused to believe it. One of the reasons was because Michael was 136lbs and the insisted that they knew by looking at him that he was 108lbs, per Karen's facebook account.
They also claimed that there were 'fake' Michaels in several parts, because Michael was too weak and frail to dance at that time. The main point, Michael was dying in TII and Kenny and the rest watched and did nothing.
People may have selective memories about this kind of stuff, but I remember all too well because TINI covered all the topics on this board for 8 months. Much like what is happening now with 'this song is fake'. Yeah, fans' hearing are so great detecting Michael that they can't even agree what songs are fake. I remember one fan shouted when Hollywood Tonight it was leak that it was fake.
As it has been pointed before, Taryll needs to put his money where his mouth is and sue. Ranting on tweeter like a high school boy who has been dumped by his girlfriend is both unprofessional and childish. Until they do, their words are just as empty at the TINI facebook.
For the record, there were allot of 'fans' against TII when it was first announced and wanted to boycott that too. Some even cheered bootlegging the movie before it even came out. People just have short memories on this board.
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I agree the Jacksons' past behavior has no correlation to the quality of the Cascio tracks.
Seriously, guys, don't you find it strange that there is no other demo tapes from those recording sessions in New Jersey? How about hand-written notes from Michael?
Michael kept everything. He documented his creative process. Remember the Mexican Depositions, they played tapes of him humming the melody of The Girl Is Mine.
If the demos of Breaking News are releasable, there must be some evidence showing Michael's inputs.
To me, I don't need testimony from "forensic musicologiests", whoever they are, for now I still don't know any names. How about little notes from Michael? Messages from him saying how he wanted the song to sound like?
I'm not saying the Cascios fabricated the vocals. But, may be the vocals are indeed in very rough stage and very bad quality. Michael may not give too much thought into those songs or plan to re-work them.
Seriously, guys, don't you find it strange that there is no other demo tapes from those recording sessions in New Jersey? How about hand-written notes from Michael?
Michael kept everything. He documented his creative process. Remember the Mexican Depositions, they played tapes of him humming the melody of The Girl Is Mine.
If the demos of Breaking News are releasable, there must be some evidence showing Michael's inputs.
To me, I don't need testimony from "forensic musicologiests", whoever they are, for now I still don't know any names. How about little notes from Michael? Messages from him saying how he wanted the song to sound like?
I'm not saying the Cascios fabricated the vocals. But, may be the vocals are indeed in very rough stage and very bad quality. Michael may not give too much thought into those songs or plan to re-work them.
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Didn't they call Kenny Ortega "murderer" right to his face?
Nice way to defend Michael's legacy,lolz
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EXACTLY!
This is NOT It and the FAKE songs are the same, as far as I'm concerned.
And when the Cirque du Soleil show opens up, I'm sure we will be hearing [fill in the blank] and that's why "some" Jackson family members will boycott it. Mark my words!
When the opening scene does not display a melody of Jackson-5 songs will [fill in the blank] be upset. Will "some" feel that because Michael was a part of the J5 first, they too should be included in the Cirque de Soleil show. I don't know, but time will tell!
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Oh, they did. They not only shouted it, but carried signs with 'murderer' written on it. They also wanted to carry a golden casket at the premiere of TII. And if you disagree with them, you were not a 'true fan' or a mole from AEG or Sony.
Kind of sounds familiar, doesn't it.
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that may well be totally correct. but sadly this is the stage we are at.taking rough works and doing what they can to make them releasable (sp) but then we have branca claiming theres only enough material left for one more album yet everyones aware of the huge amounts of songs mj recorded so heck knows. maybe they wanted the first album to contain as much recent material as possible and with will iam saying no (who knows what quality any songs were) we are stuck with the cascio songs.even though theres probably far better and finished recordings out there
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I think that is Branca meant, that Michael only made so many songs passed 2003-2009 that were actually completed.
I mean, people yelled and screamed about the song This is it because it was written back in the 80s, so they most likely figure fans would be happy to have more recent stuff. Lets face it, if the estate released stuff from the 80s and 90s, would have some fans screaming foul.
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It is funny how you only take the last sentence of my post and miss the complete point... Interesting...
EDIT: I saw your whole correspondence, you did understand my previous post! Please accept my apologies, it has been a looooooooooooooooooooong day at the office.
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Right. So what I don't understand is this, we got the chance to listen to almost all Michael's demos from Off The Wall era untill 2004 on ultimate collection and some websites.
We all probably heard Starlight, original PYT, working day and night demo, don't stop till you get enough demo, wanna be startin's somethin' demo, the girl is mine demo, ... in the back, ride with me, blue gangsta, we be ballin' you, alternative versions of the songs, even alternative versions of the songs of The jackson 5.
But Cascio demos and all surrounding the three songs were destroyed?
Where is the logic there?