Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

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Thanks, Marc. They investigated him quite a ways back. I kind of wonder, why not sooner, why now. hmmmmmm Let me guess,:smilerolleyes:, Weitzman/Branca used their influence to cause trouble for the Jacksons. They should not be filing any lawsuits.:smilerolleyes:

:doh:

Everything is a conspiracy. MJ fired him in 2005...he couldn't possibly be a horrible lawyer.

It has to be a conspiracy.
 
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yeah right, b/c the Branca and Weitzman have nothing else to do but cause trouble to those poor, innocent genuinely concerned Jackson's. - my foot!

exactly !
 
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:doh:

Everything is a conspiracy. MJ fired him in 2005...he couldn't possibly be a horrible lawyer.

It has to be a conspiracy.

I don't believe everything is a conspiracy, but I am 100% sure that something was going on to sabotage Michael for the last 15 years for that catalog & I am sure 93 had to do with Pellicano & Weitzman. Pellicano is in jail for extensive wiretapping, he pretty much took the wrap for everyone, Weitzman was his lawyer lol. He worked both sides with tabloids just like Barresi does now. Pellicano worked for Bert Fields during 93. Pellicano's wife was/is supposed to get her own reality show. Can we say payoff? hmmmmm Some of the answer is there. Weitzman is now Branca's lawyer - coincidence?

In 2002 MJ protested Sony, child molestation charges in 2003, 04, trial 2005. That was not a coincidence either IMO. Its all related. Yes, it was a conspiracy & not just the Arvisos. And WHERE is my government?
 
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I don't believe everything is a conspiracy, but I am 100% sure that something was going on to sabotage Michael for the last 15 years for that catalog & I am sure 93 had to do with Pellicano & Weitzman. Pellicano is in jail for extensive wiretapping, he pretty much took the wrap for everyone, Weitzman was his lawyer lol. He worked both sides with tabloids just like Barresi does now. Pellicano worked for Bert Fields during 93. Pellicano's wife was/is supposed to get her own reality show. Can we say payoff? hmmmmm Some of the answer is there. Weitzman is now Branca's lawyer - coincidence?

In 2002 MJ protested Sony, child molestation charges in 2003, 04, trial 2005. That was not a coincidence either IMO. Its all related. Yes, it was a conspiracy & not just the Arvisos. And WHERE is my government?


But didn't Pellicano defend Michael?
 
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Hi,

Who is Barresi?
 
Re: Wrongful death lawsuits - Katherine and MJ's kids sue AEG / Murray responds to Joe's lawsuit

Hi,

Who is Barresi?

Paul Barresi is a private investigator. He inherited Jim Mitteager's tapes when Mitteager died. Mitteager was a reporter for National Enquirer and he had a habit of secretly taping everybody whom he talked to. One of the tapes had to do with Michael: Mitteager tried to get Robert Newt say that Michael molested him when he was a child. He offered him and his father $200 000 for this. They almost accepted the offer but in the last minute they declined it. Of course, Michael never molested him. Here is the full story: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152708,00.html

But Mitteager secretly taped this conversation - like he always taped everything and this was on those so called Mitteager tapes, among other stories about other celebrities. And after Mitteager died Barresi got the tapes. I didn't follow what he did with them though.
 
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I don't believe everything is a conspiracy, but I am 100% sure that something was going on to sabotage Michael for the last 15 years for that catalog & I am sure 93 had to do with Pellicano & Weitzman. Pellicano is in jail for extensive wiretapping, he pretty much took the wrap for everyone, Weitzman was his lawyer lol. He worked both sides with tabloids just like Barresi does now. Pellicano worked for Bert Fields during 93. Pellicano's wife was/is supposed to get her own reality show. Can we say payoff? hmmmmm Some of the answer is there. Weitzman is now Branca's lawyer - coincidence?

In 2002 MJ protested Sony, child molestation charges in 2003, 04, trial 2005. That was not a coincidence either IMO. Its all related. Yes, it was a conspiracy & not just the Arvisos. And WHERE is my government?



True.... :(

I firmly believe that the Arvizos, for instance, have been payed by... certain powers that be to destroy him, because he made the (more than justified) decision to tell that family to leave Neverland. Their cash cow and luxury provider was to be no longer willing to support them and tolerate their increasing self-indulgences and rowdiness. And since they're not coming forward admitting to their horrifying lies that brought a man to his grave (they killed his spirit and it was never the same, they hurt him too much...) could make one conclude that it can't be just because they're ashamed to do it and that they're evil incarnate. They could be... But one of Star Arvizo's FB rants/replies to a Jackson fan, was too filled with frustration, jealosy and sheer venomous lie... about a man who ultimately saved their brother's life and introduced them to everything one could wish for, so as not to think something terribly fishy is going on. It can't be just jealosy - they are jealous for no one loves them and are living in unfortunate hate. I wish they could redeem themselves, somehow... maybe wishful thinking. I guess it would be much easier to just hate them and curse them out. But seeing that they're so unfortunate, including other people like them is more than enough. So, yeah, I think they're severely mind-controlled.

...
 
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yeah right, b/c the Branca and Weitzman have nothing else to do but cause trouble to those poor, innocent genuinely concerned Jackson's. - my foot!

Actually, the first thing I would do if I am Weitzman is hire a PI to dig up any dirt on them or anyone they hire. I am sure if I search long enough, I will find it. Because if I am Weitzman & Sony/AEG - I do not want any trial - because I cannot control the information that may come out. I might report them to the IRS - most people make mistakes with their taxes. I will cause any trouble I can. Oxman is a small a lawyer - probably handles divorces, estates.. Easy to find some dissatisfed customers IMO. It is a smart thing to do from their vantage point.

KJ filed a lawsuit against AEG. I bet they didn't like that at all. Bad Katherine, bad Jacksons. They want justice.

All I want is the truth to clear MJ's name. I want justice for all of it.
 
AEG Wants Katherine Jackson Lawsuit Dismissed

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/entertainment/aeg-wants-katherine-jackson-lawsuit-dismissed-20101230


AEG Wants Katherine Jackson Lawsuit Dismissed
Updated: Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 5:32 PM PST
Published : Thursday, 30 Dec 2010, 5:32 PM PST


Los Angeles - A lawsuit brought on behalf of Michael Jackson's mother and children against the promoters of the concert tour he was poised to begin at the time of his 2009 death should be dismissed, lawyers for AEG Live argued in court papers filed today .

The suit was filed in Los Angeles Superior Court on Sept. 15 on behalf of Katherine Jackson and her son's three children, Michael Jr., Paris-Michael Katherine and Prince Michael, also is known as Blanket.

The suit alleges AEG Live is responsible for the medical decisions made by Dr. Conrad Murray, the singer's personal physician at the time, who has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death.

The suit alleges breach of contract, fraud, negligence, negligent infliction of emotional distress and employer responsibility.

In newly filed court papers, AEG Live attorneys maintain the Jackson family matriarch and her grandchildren "lack standing to bring these claims other than as wrongful death theories" because the complaint, in effect, asserts claims on behalf of the late singer.

The AEG papers also state that Jackson "controlled his own medical care and hired his own longtime personal physician." The company "did not choose or hire Dr. Murray, it merely conducted negotiations named at retaining him as an independent contractor on the tour."

AEG's legal team wrote that Jackson "was not helpless or incompetent; he lived in his own home, negotiated his own contracts, engaged his own attorneys and cared for his own family."
 
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I agree with AEG.. Katherine only filed this suit because AEG has money. Murray is solely responsible for MJ's death because of his greed. Like AEG said Murray is a licensed physician. They had no idea he would do something so stupid and negligent.
 
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I agree with AEG.. Katherine only filed this suit because AEG has money. Murray is solely responsible for MJ's death because of his greed. Like AEG said Murray is a licensed physician. They had no idea he would do something so stupid and negligent.
How do we know that Murray was NOT hired by AEG????....Because they say so? I don't think we should be so quick to jump tp AEG's defense....Michael never signed that contract either for Murray to be his doctor...Murray plainly states that AEG was the one that was suppose to pay him 150,000 dollars a month..
 
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How do we know that Murray was NOT hired by AEG????....Because they say so? I don't think we should be so quick to jump tp AEG's defense....Michael never signed that contract either for Murray to be his doctor...Murray plainly states that AEG was the one that was suppose to pay him 150,000 dollars a month..

still AEG did not kill Michael, Murray did. Murray is no fall guy or scapegoat. Murray is the medical doctor with a license and he used that license to buy propofol and kill MJ.
 
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AEG is responsible for what Murray was doing. It was said before that Murray was hired by AEG. It looks highly suspicious that nobody seem to sign a contract with Dr Murray and he never got paid.
 
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still AEG did not kill Michael, Murray did. Murray is no fall guy or scapegoat. Murray is the medical doctor with a license and he used that license to buy propofol and kill MJ.
I think that part of your statement that I have bolded..is a matter of opinion...also it is a matter of what can and cannot be proven. I know I am now bordering on conspiracy so I must leave it here for now.
 
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I feel very sorry for Katherine and MJ kids. The doors are to thick , their voices are too weak and the pressure is too high. What a nightmare. Why AEG wants to dismiss this case? If there is nothing wrong there, that means there is nothing to worry about.
 
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I feel very sorry for Katherine and MJ kids. The doors are to thick , their voices are too weak and the pressure is too high. What a nightmare. Why AEG wants to dismiss this case? If there is nothing wrong there, that means there is nothing to worry about.

they want it dismissed because they feel they are not liable to pay Katherine for Murray killing Michael. They are not to be blamed for Murray's incompetent medical 'care'
 
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If this is true...

The AEG papers also state that Jackson "controlled his own medical care and hired his own longtime personal physician." The company "did not choose or hire Dr. Murray, it merely conducted negotiations named at retaining him as an independent contractor on the tour."

... then there are even more reasons to put that CM guy behind the bars. He has said he had no idea about Michael having any "issues" with pain killers. How can this be if he was "his long time personal physician"? There is footage of MJ explaining his issues with pain killers since Dangerous tour and later. So if you are a "long time personal physician", shouldn't you be aware of your patient past medical history? And if so, why did he accept giving Michael such a dangerous coctail of drugs just to "have him to sleep"? We have all been to a doctor before and we all know they ask a million questions about our health history, just because they need to know that to avoid mistakes. So?

Somebody is telling BIG lies here.

And I will forever think Klein should also have to explain what Michael was doing for so many hours in his office, and what he gave to him over the years.

And Michael trusted that gross man so much.... Geeeezzzz... my heart breaks just to think of that :no:
 
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I guess Murray believes opiates and sedatives is the difference. According to Murray he only gave MJ sedatives and propofol, nothing like demerol, morphine or oxycontin. But believe me he knew about MJ's past pain killer issues. Everyone knows MJ was severely burned and had reconstructive scalp surgery. Murray knew about MJ's back injuries and vitiligo. If he was his patient since 2007 when he went to Vegas, then he knew or should've known about MJ's medical history. It was his responsibility as a personal physician to find out about it.
 
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How do we know that Murray was NOT hired by AEG????....Because they say so? I don't think we should be so quick to jump tp AEG's defense....Michael never signed that contract either for Murray to be his doctor...Murray plainly states that AEG was the one that was suppose to pay him 150,000 dollars a month..

How the hell did AEG hire Murray...when he's been treating MJ since 2008?

He was on AEG payroll, but they did no go looking for him. Just like they did not go looking for raggedy ass Karen Faye.

AEG is responsible for what Murray was doing. It was said before that Murray was hired by AEG. It looks highly suspicious that nobody seem to sign a contract with Dr Murray and he never got paid.

Pllllease.... MJ's kids are innocent in this. They are not involved in any of this farce of a lawsuit. So leave the kids out of it...the adults are using their name ...they have no control over what's being done "in their name".

Randy & Katherine are barking at the wrong tree...I am praying the judge shuts this farce down quickly. Similar to that other mess with AllGood.

As long as Murray goes to jail for his incompetency & gross negligence...I want the other side shows shut down.
 
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How the hell did AEG hire Murray...when he's been treating MJ since 2008?

He was on AEG payroll, but they did no go looking for him. Just like they did not go looking for raggedy ass Karen Faye.

Exactly..
 
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Pllllease.... MJ's kids are innocent in this. They are not involved in any of this farce of a lawsuit. So leave the kids out of it...the adults are using their name ...they have no control over what's being done "in their name".

Randy & Katherine are barking at the wrong tree...I am praying the judge shuts this farce down quickly. Similar to that other mess with AllGood.

As long as Murray goes to jail for his incompetency & gross negligence...I want the other side shows shut down.

Please, keep it without hystyerical remarks about kids.
Kids are being involved and they will testfy in court room how much Mj was pushed to work harder and harder. They were involved sinse the moment when dr. Murray called Prince to come to this room to see his dead father.

If Murray was on on AEG payroll, AEG was responsible what was going on with Michael's health. Looks like nobody cared that he was losing weight, did not eat anything. They put too much pressure on this man and he could not sleep.

Please, do not think that evrybody is stupid and we will miss obvious facts becuase some of you just want us not to see them.

Your hate to Katherine is very unhelathy. Hate makes ppl blind or there is something else behind your constant "barking on Jacksons tree".
 
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Please, keep it without hystyerical remarks about kids.
Kids are being involved and they will testfy in court room how much Mj was pushed to work harder and harder. They were involved sinse the moment when dr. Murray called Prince to come to this room to see his dead father.

If Murray was on on AEG payroll, AEG was responsible what was going on with Michael's health. Looks like nobody cared that he was losing weight, did not eat anything. They put too much pressure on this man and he could not sleep.

Please, do not think that evrybody is stupid and we will miss obvious facts becuase some of you just want us not to see them.

Hmmmmmmmmok. Will Katherine sue Joe, Allgood, Leonard rowe, & herself for the added pressure??

***Exits stage left***
 
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Hmmmmmmmmok. Will Katherine sue Joe, Allgood, Leonard rowe, & herself for the added pressure??

***Exits stage left***

Good post!! she was pressuring MJ about that family reunion tour too.

I seriously wish they would all go over to Singapore and Hong Kong with Janet on her tour because seeing them continue to screw over MJ just ticks me off.
 
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Hmmmmmmmmok. Will Katherine sue Joe, Allgood, Leonard rowe, & herself for the added pressure??

***Exits stage left***

I even will not bother to answer to this kind of nonsense. Your agenda here is very clear and does not need a futher explonation.
 
Re: AEG Wants Katherine Jackson Lawsuit Dismissed

documents here: http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/Jackson vs AEG013.pdf

Summary

- Geez a strong start: AEG starts with saying the only thing that the complaint got right was that "MJ's death was tragic" , they refer everything else to be false.
- They say Katherine and the kids do not have standing and the only people that has standing is MJ's personal representatives (Branca and McClain) to make some of the claims (contract based, fraud etc).
- It states as KJ and kids has no personal representative standing, they can only file a "wrongful death lawsuit" but they don't plea as such.
- It states KJ's lawsuit tries to create new liabilities of duty which doesn't exist. (they are stating supposed actions and inactions)
- AEG states that in law there's nothing that says job with physical requirements (they are meaning concert performances) or providing safe residence and safe transportation creates a legal duty towards physical well being. (simply put they say : just because we have a contract with Michael for concerts that requires physical activity, it doesn't mean that we are legally responsible for his health). (they cite a case that says a company has to provide a safe environment for work related injuries but not all other injuries)
- They state there was no "special relationship" between them and Michael. They say Michael wasn't dependent or reliant on them.
- They say according to contract only requirement was the physical for the insurance and there was nothing else about any other medical treatment. - They also say that Michael could have cancelled his contract with AEG.
- The Murray - AEG agreement/ draft is mentioned. AEG says that contract states that Murray is an independent contractor hired on MJ's request and he acts as MJ's doctor and the agreement was to be terminated instantly if Michael no longer wanted Murray. So they say KJ's claim of "AEG selected, hired, paid Murray" is wrong as the contract says " Murray is hired as an independent contractor only for MJ's benefit and only if MJ consented and wanted".
- They say that advances they paid and money they lent (for such things as rent) do not put them into a position of liability.
- As the AEG- Murray agreement was not signed by MJ so it's not binding/executed therefore they were not required to provide any medical equipment. They state Murray knew this as the documents said this.
- AEG states they have no duty as MJ's injury was not foreseeable. They state that they have no way of knowing that Murray a doctor with no malpractice and history of anesthesia would administer anesthesia to MJ at home and he would die. They also state that KJ's lawsuit says that "Micheal appeared ill and tired" but that doesn't equal that they should known about anesthesia use. MJ could have been ill for other reasons.
- AEG says they cannot be responsible for hiring Murray negligently as they never hired or supervised him plus they had no reason to expect such behavior from Murray (as he didn't have such history of giving propofol or sleep remedies to other people). Plus they state that KJ's lawsuit says that AEG should have known Murray was giving MJ "sleep remedies" but they argue that "sleep remedies" do not equal "propofol". (in other words they argue that even if they knew Michael's sleep problems they couldn't guess treatment with anesthesia)
- AEG states KJ's lawsuit doesn't satisfy the burden for fraud claims.
- Emotional distress claims for Prince - they say that for medical malpractice claims plaintiff must observe the malpractice and understand it's malpractice. In other words to make an emotional distress claim it would also require Prince to see Murray giving MJ propofol and understand that it will hurt/kill MJ.
- Again AEG- Murray contract mentioned as draft and MJ never signed it.
- They state 1 year statue of limitations has passed for any wrongful death due to medical malpractice.
 
AEG — the producer behind Michael Jackson’s ill-fated comeback concerts in London — is asking a Los Angeles court to throw out Katherine Jackson’s lawsuit against them, RadarOnline.com has learned.

The Jackson matriarch has accused AEG of causing her son's death by pushing him to rehearse for the concerts, despite the singer’s poor health.

However, lawyers for AEG have filed an objection to the suit, which "tests the legal sufficiency to the pleading".

RadarOnline.com has obtained the documents filed in Los Angeles Superior Court.

In the court documents, AEG -- and Jackson's longtime collaborator Kenny Ortega — state: "The complaint gets one thing right, Michael Jackson's death on June 25, 2009 was a tragic event. It was tragic for his children. It was tragic for his fans. And it was tragic for the Defendants here, who had labored tirelessly to make a reality of Michael Jackson's dream of a triumphant return to the world's stage.

“Otherwise, however, the complaint gets both the law and facts are entirely wrong.


Not only do plaintiff's fail to allege any cognizable legal claim (indeed, their novel theories go far beyond those previously recognized by any court), but many of their allegations are proven false by the very documents they refer to and upon which they necessarily rely.

“As such, the complaint warrants immediate dismissal with prejudice."

According to Katherine, Dr. Conrad Murray was "selected by, hired by, and controlled by AEG.”

In her suit, filed in September, Katherine claimed: "Indeed, AEG demanded and required that Michael Jackson be treated by this particular doctor to ensure that Michael Jackson would attend all rehearsals and shows on the tour.”

The lawsuit contends that the concert production company had a legal responsibility to "treat him safely and to not put him in harms' way."

"AEG, despite its knowledge of Michael Jackson's physical condition, breached those duties by putting its desire for massive profits from the tour over the health and safety of Michael Jackson," the suit said.

In its response, AEG said: "Michael Jackson was not helpless or incompetent; he lived in his own home, negotiated his own contracts, engaged his own attorney's and care for his own family. He at all times retained the option of refusing Dr. Murray's services, or of cancelling his agreement with AEG.

“Similarly, Defendants' alleged request that Dr. Murray assist Michael Jackson in attending rehearsals could not conceivably have put Defendants on notice that Dr. Murray was likely to administer anesthesia in Michael Jackson's home."

The next scheduled hearing in the case is slated for February 2, 2011.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...ks-court-strike-michael-jacksons-moms-lawsuit


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actually they are right. I do like the fact that AEG's lawyers are placing the blame on Murray's recklessness and dangerousness as a doctor. Like they said sleep remedies is not anesthesia. Murray was giving anesthesia to his patient at home. That is dangerous and reckless and it has nothing to do with AEG. Katherine will lose this lawsuit.
 
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I just read the documents...you could tell Oxman wasn't involved.

smdh... Ivy, Prior to today, did you know Katherine had no standing to file such lawsuit?

Basically, she can only file a wrongful death...she did not...and now 18 months later, it's too late.
 
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Her suing AEG did not stop her from letting the children of Michael Jackson from going to an AEG backed Christmas concert. So there
 
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smdh... Ivy, Prior to today, did you know Katherine had no standing to file such lawsuit?

Basically, she can only file a wrongful death...she did not...and now 18 months later, it's too late.

Katherine's lawsuit was a combination of many things - contracts, duties, liabilities, wrongful death. I believe she also had a wrongful death claim in there but her lawsuit was filed later than June 2010. She can join Joe's lawsuit against Murray.

I did expect "MJ didn't sign the Murray's hiring agreement" argument from them. It's their strongest point.

We'll see what the judge says.
 
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