Egypt

[janena]

the arabic version maybe but for the english speaking version isnt.. Fox news is what u call a propaganda channel or the even tackier press t.v which i watch with amusement sometime.

And bush lol the bottom line western countries only care about dictators when they are supportive of the west. Like an ex american president supposedly said. He may be a son of a bitch but hes my son of a bitch. U cant cry about democracy and then complain when someone u dont like gets in and then fund ppl who want to over throw them like the usa has done for decades or claim a vote was rigged cause the ppl u dont like got in. U cant say in one breath not everyone in eygpt wants the pres out then in the next breath say everyone in iran wants there pres out. U are saying what u want.to happen. Bottom line u would prefer a usa backed dictator to be in power cause of the issues with your country. Thats good for you but what about the ppl in eygpt dont they deserve to live in a democracy

qft !!!

 

[LoveMJackson]

the arabic version maybe but for the english speaking version isnt.. fox news is what u call a propaganda channel or the even tackier press t.v which i watch with amusement sometime.

Every channel has its own agenda, they are all biased.
I’m watching mostly CNN these days, Ben Wedeman is reporting well straight from Egypt. but the fastest news are from the net. Egypt banned AlJazeera btw, they closed their offices there.

and bush lol the bottom line western countries only care about dictators when they are supportive of the west. like an ex american president supposedly said. he may be a son of a bitch but hes my son of a bitch. u cant cry about democracy and then complain when someone u dont like gets in and then fund ppl who want to over throw them like the USA has done for decades or claim a vote was rigged cause the ppl u dont like got in. u cant say in one breath not everyone in eygpt wants the pres out then in the next breath say everyone in iran wants there pres out. u are saying what u want.to happen. bottom line u would prefer a usa backed dictator to be in power cause of the issues with your country. thats good for you but what about the ppl in eygpt dont they deserve to live in a democracy

You are not right entirely.
First of all, I’m not an expert of Iran. All I know that the education there is much better than in Egypt, even better than Turkey..can you believe this? I’m not making this thing up, you can do some research and see for yourself. And with good education, the future seems better, people think different, have open minds. As long as someone like Ahmadinejad (and the mullahs besides him) is in power, what better future all these young Iranians have? Not going to talk about human rights that we all know is one of the worst. In Egypt the education is bad, really bad. 80 million people, most don’t know reading and writing. Young turn to violence and extremism. Children are afraid to go to school and cant afford, young girls are afraid to go alone on the street. And I'm quoting 2 Egyptian friends who live in Alexandria and went to study abroad (Australia & USA). One of them is in Egypt right now between all the mess. Both of them are afraid that Egypt will turn to be like Iran 1979 with the muslim brotherhood. They also cant stand Mubarak. They are scared for the future but also excited.
In 2009, they tried to make a revolution in Iran, we all know how it ended, the army shooting many people there..and not long time ago they tried again and failed. So I base my words and thoughts on all these things. I might be wrong. I don't have statistics so I cant really say how much are against and how many not, I'm only assuming.

And as for me, I’m not supporting any dictator so don’t put words in my mouth, please. I’m not supporting anyone. I’m just thinking about reality and the future of the whole region where I live, so call me selfish if you want..its easy for people who live far away with no daily security/safety problems, who are not going to the army to protect their country, unless its your decision (!)..here no one asks you when the country is in a daily danger.ok back to Egypt, I do give credit to the people who have the courage to go out and raise their voices, a lot need to do the same in other countries. I wish them the best and hope I'm wrong with my (and many others) predictions. The future will tell.

“There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction.” Winston Churchill

 

[JMie]

I am very worried about what's happening in Egypt. When I first heard ElBaradei was involved I was sort of relieved knowing he was a Peace Nobel prize winner and used to work for the UN. But after doing some research on what's going on in Egypt and learning that ElBaradei is friendly with Muslim Brotherhood, which I can't see as being good, I am worried it won't end well.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

You are not right entirely.
First of all, I’m not an expert of Iran. All I know that the education there is much better than in Egypt, even better than Turkey..can you believe this

my comment was in reply to u saying we dont know that everyone in eygpt wants their press out but then in the next sentence u posted as if everyone in iran wants their press out of office..u cant have it both ways but obviously u said that cause u dont want murabarak out and want the iranian president out cause of the issues with your country.

of course ppl are concerned about what could happen in eygpt but according to most reports there is a thought that they will not go down an extremist route becasue the society in eygpt isnt like that.but at the end of the day u cant refuse ppl their human rights cause u are scared of what could happen.

And as for me, I’m not supporting any dictator so don’t put words in my mouth, please. I’m not supporting anyone. I’m just thinking about reality and the future of the whole region where I live, so call me selfish if you want..its easy for people who live far away with no daily security/safety problems,

well u gve the impression u would rather have a usa back dicator in eygpt than democracy bottom line u either supoprts ppl rights to freedom and democracy or you dont. you obviousy have an egenda becasue of where u live that is fine but its best to be honest about it and just say it rather than trying to be objective when u cant.

 

[souldreamer7]

I wish The People of Eygpt The very best


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souldreamer

 

[LoveMJackson]

my comment was in reply to u saying we dont know that everyone in eygpt wants their press out but then in the next sentence u posted as if everyone in iran wants their press out of office..u cant have it both ways but obviously u said that cause u dont want murabarak out and want the iranian president out cause of the issues with your country.

That's what I tried to explain to you in my previous post, why I wrote what I wrote. Either you misunderstood me or I didn't explain myself well enough. We all know Mubarak can't stay forever, he's an old man already. I admit, he was good for the region, obviously not for his country and its citizens but the whole region, yes. All I hope that Egypt maintain peace with Israel..like in the past 32 years, we had stability.

of course ppl are concerned about what could happen in eygpt but according to most reports there is a thought that they will not go down an extremist route becasue the society in eygpt isnt like that.but at the end of the day u cant refuse ppl their human rights cause u are scared of what could happen.

Well, I read many reports saying the other way around. No one knows anything. All these 'experts', they also said in the beginning that the revolution will fail. I never said they don't deserve human rights..I only stated my concerns. There is nothing to do anyway.

well u gve the impression u would rather have a usa back dicator in eygpt than democracy bottom line u either supoprts ppl rights to freedom and democracy or you dont. you obviousy have an egenda becasue of where u live that is fine but its best to be honest about it and just say it rather than trying to be objective when u cant.

I disagree.
Of course democracy will be the best and I support that but the question is Will it work? because history shows the other way around. That's why I'm skeptic. I'm sorry but the middle east is not America or Europe..things work differently here.
btw, what do you mean 'a usa back dicator'? Obama told Mubarak to leave and allow the Egyptian people to vote.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

I'm just gonna pray for them. The footage on the news is too upsetting to see.

 

[Alma]

*Prays*... Things have degenerated a lot over there, a civil war going on too to top the plain chaos and the many victims...

 

[Love.him]

Well, I haven't followed all of the coverage b ut it's been on a lot & I dislike how the coverage seems to run in circles showing the same thing for hours, days even & not really giving a back story or explaining was was the final straw on the camel's back. What incident(s) has finally made people so determined to make change happen that they will stand outside literally with their babies protesting?

I feel for them, I just don't like coverage that is the same thing for hours or days & if it had been on for a fraction of that time, I'd still know the same small amount of info as when it runs for days. It's too dumbed down.

 

[souldreamer7]

Yeah, Obama is a hypocrite alright.

I understand that the people of Egypt got tired of being ruled by a dictator and they want democracy, but people are literally now breaking free from prisons, lots of injuries and even deaths going on, that's plain madness that it has come to this anarchy and hostility. And war. At the end of the day, it's a war where people die. I wish a riot happened around here where I live, where people are sleeping while being mercilessly deprived of their rights by dictatorship, but to see blood and criminals escaping from their prisons, thus leading to a national chaos.... .... ... There's hardly any security left.

I don't know, hope for more order for Egypt, this world is a crazy place as it is....

Blood in Cairo Square: Mubarak Backers, Foes Clash
Feb 2, 2011 – 6:51 PM
Hadeel Al-Shalchi
AP

CAIRO -- Supporters of President Hosni Mubarak charged into Cairo's central square on horses and camels brandishing whips while others rained firebombs from rooftops in what appeared to be an orchestrated assault against protesters trying to topple Egypt's leader of 30 years. Three people died and 600 were injured.

The protesters accused Mubarak's regime of unleashing a force of paid thugs and plainclothes police to crush their unprecedented 9-day-old movement, a day after the 82-year-old president refused to step down. They showed off police ID badges they said were wrested from their attackers. Some government workers said their employers ordered them into the streets.

Mustafa el-Fiqqi, a top official from the ruling National Democratic Party, told The Associated Press that businessmen connected to the ruling party were responsible for what happened.

The notion that the state may have coordinated violence against protesters, who had kept a peaceful vigil in Tahrir Square for five days, prompted a sharp rebuke from the Obama administration.

"If any of the violence is instigated by the government, it should stop immediately," said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

The clashes marked a dangerous new phase in Egypt's upheaval: the first significant violence between government supporters and opponents. The crisis took a sharp turn for the worse almost immediately after Mubarak rejected the calls for him to give up power or leave the country, stubbornly proclaiming he would die on Egyptian soil.

His words were a blow to the protesters. They also suggest that authorities want to turn back the clock to the tight state control enforced before the protests began.

Mubarak's supporters turned up on the streets Wednesday in significant numbers for the first time. Some were hostile to journalists and foreigners. Two Associated Press correspondents and several other journalists were roughed up in Cairo. State TV had reported that foreigners were caught distributing anti-Mubarak leaflets, apparently trying to depict the movement as foreign-fueled.

After midnight, 10 hours after the clashes began, the two sides were locked in a standoff at a street corner, with the anti-Mubarak protesters hunkered behind a line of metal sheets hurling firebombs back and forth with government backers on the rooftop above. The rain of bottles of flaming gasoline set nearby cars and wreckage on the sidewalk ablaze.

The scenes of mayhem were certain to add to the fear that is already running high in this capital of 18 million people after a weekend of looting and lawlessness and the escape of thousands of prisoners from jails in the chaos.

Soldiers surrounding Tahrir Square fired occasional shots in the air throughout the day but did not appear to otherwise intervene in the fierce clashes and no uniformed police were seen. Most of the troops took shelter behind or inside the armored vehicles and tanks stationed at the entrances to the square.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/02/pro-and-anti-government-protesters-clash-in-egypt/




White House Challenges Mubarak to Show Who He Is
Feb 2, 2011 – 6:53 PM
Bradley Klapper and Matthew Lee
AP

WASHINGTON -- Confronted by scenes of bloody chaos in Cairo, the White House on Wednesday challenged Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to show the world "exactly who he is" by quickly leading a peaceful transition to democracy. That outcome seemed ever more elusive.

An Egyptian official complained that the U.S. was pressing for Mubarak's swift departure even as President Barack Obama publicly urges an orderly transition. "There is a clear contradiction between an orderly process of transition and the insistence that this process be rushed," said the official, who was speaking for his government but said the government would not allow his name to be associated with the statement.

"Now means now," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said, and he declared anew that continued aid to Egypt would be influenced by the Egyptian government's response to the crisis.

While the U.S. has not directly called for Mubarak to resign - the protesters' chief demand - Gibbs was echoing Obama's public call one night earlier for an immediate and orderly transition to democracy in Egypt. Instead the images on TV were of a brutal clash between protesters and Mubarak supporters.


"If any of the violence is instigated by the government, it should stop immediately," Gibbs said, while declining to speculate whether the Egyptian government was in fact behind the violence. Protesters contended plainclothes police were among the pro-Mubarak groups.

The White House had attempted to nudge Mubarak to the exits, dispatching former U.S. Ambassador Frank Wisner as a special envoy to deliver the message to him. But by Wednesday, Wisner was on his way back to the United States.


A senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity due to the delicacy of the matter, suggested Wisner had been seeking specific pledges from Mubarak beyond just a promise not to stand for re-election. The official would not elaborate, but the administration has made no secret of the fact that it wants the state of emergency lifted and would prefer to see Mubarak's son, Gamal, not try to succeed his father. Mubarak mentioned neither in his address Tuesday night.

The White House said it had had no indication that such violence was in the offing when Obama and Mubarak had spoken frankly Tuesday night. The Egyptian president announced on television that he would not seek re-election in September, but protesters want him out now.

With Mubarak's grip on his country in doubt, Obama's team is evaluating scenarios of what may come next. But the conflict underscores the limits of the American president's power to shape the outcome.

For example, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley acknowledged the hardline Muslim Brotherhood is "a fact of life in Egypt" and might play a role in the nation's transition. U.S. officials haven't met with members of the organization though they've spoken to other opposition groups, Crowley said.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/02/white-house-condemns-violence-in-egypt/




My prayers have been going out to Egypt and it's people. :angel:


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souldreamer7

 

[LindavG]

*Prays*... Things have degenerated a lot over there, a civil war going on too to top the plain chaos and the many victims...

I knew this was going to happen the day it started, unfortunately. And it won't be over for a long time. Not everyone will agree to the next government. And what if a party like the Muslim Brotherhood gets democratically chosen? Sure, we should respect democracy but at what expense? What will happen to the significant Christian minority in Egypt when an Islamic party seizes power? Will it be like many countries in the Middle East where Christians are openly suppressed and discriminated? I'm hoping for the best.

 

[riviera1992]

This is nothing new.

It's been happening in South America, USSR, Africa, forever.

It's just part of the globalist system's plan.

When Michael talks about "the system" like in TDCAU, Scream and Escape, it's this global system.

If you read "The shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein or any of these articles on this website here:
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines

You'll understand the big picture very clearly. Very depressing.

Don't trust mainstream media to get the truth, the globalists own it all.

 

[LoveMJackson]

According to Wikileaks, the U.S planned it all along. They supported the opposition against mubarak..including the muslim brotherhood. Sounds surreal.

 

[janena]

Too sad...
It breaks your heart to see this happening on livestreams.

 

[souldreamer7]

:angel:

 

[janena]

http://www.downwithmubarak.com/

 

[Alma]

This is really bad... Noticeable, reliable officials with knowledge beyond what the media are saying, are all agreeing on that. It's not hard to see. Makes one real down and non-mad to envision WW3 is not just theory. Like somebody here said: globalization is what's happening. The new world order.

*prays*...

 

[riviera1992]

According to Wikileaks, the U.S planned it all along. They supported the opposition against mubarak..including the muslim brotherhood. Sounds surreal.

I'm truly ashamed to live in America the land of the free. What a joke!

Like I mentioned in my previous post; once you've read The Shock Doctrine which is based only on historical facts, you see that the US and their CIA military industrial complex has been behind every revolution since their existence.

I bet you anything that behind the scene of all these coups, all the insider Wall Street crooks have edge their bets before it all started and bought "options" (bets that price go up) on the price of oil going up again like a few years ago at the height of the Irak war. Make boatloads of money by selling high. Then when every thing settles down as it always does, those same stock market crooks will have bought "puts"(bets that price go down) that oil will go down again and make money on both side.

This world is so evil. This is the Hell, the learning plane.

Even praying doesn't cut it. It's just too much.

 

[jrsfan]

I'm truly ashamed to live in America the land of the free. What a joke!

Like I mentioned in my previous post; once you've read The Shock Doctrine which is based only on historical facts, you see that the US and their CIA military industrial complex has been behind every revolution since their existence.

I bet you anything that behind the scene of all these coups, all the insider Wall Street crooks have edge their bets before it all started and bought "options" (bets that price go up) on the price of oil going up again like a few years ago at the height of the Irak war. Make boatloads of money by selling high. Then when every thing settles down as it always does, those same stock market crooks will have bought "puts"(bets that price go down) that oil will go down again and make money on both side.

This world is so evil. This is the Hell, the learning plane.

Even praying doesn't cut it. It's just too much.

I think you're right about the Wall Street crooks. They'll be making money both sides.:no:

 

[Severus Snape]

These people are crazy. Poor Anderson--how brave of him to risk his life and report from such pandemonium. Egypt is such a mess right now.

 

[souldreamer7]

Man I wish there is something that I could do to help..I can't help it that I care about human beings..but I know that I could not change anything there by myself..I hope that the people get what they need and peace justice prevails..this world is so crazy in it's own way everywhere...

 

[Selene]

One thing is to be angry at the government, and another thing is to take that anger out on innocent people who are just trying to do their job.

Those were Pro-Mubarak thugs.There may have been cases of violence against journalists from protesters too,I don't know,but most of the ones I've seen reported were by Pro-Mubarak people and some of them with protesters actually forming a human chain to try to protect journalists& foreigners.

I've been following various sources and some of the things I've seen I will never forget.I wish I could,as some of the horrors are in the back on my mind all the time now.
One of the sites is the one connected with this group :http://www.facebook.com/elshaheeed.co.uk
I won't post the direct link to the site and please,be advised that if you decide to go there you will see some VERY disturbing pics.
Another one is this stream from twitter :
http://twitter.com/20m/egiptodirecto
One of the twits just led me to a video titled "Police shoot boy in cold blood From Egypt".Again,I won't post the video,but here's the description :

This is why no one will leave Tahrir Square. This is a video from Alexandria, 31/01/2011

The kid was probably angry because his friend was shot, so he walked up to the police, he showed them he had no weapons on him, but they still shot him anyways when he was leaving.

The death toll from the violence had risen to 54 dead and 1,000 injured by 28 January. As of 30 January, Al-Jazeera reported as many as 150 deaths in the protests. As of 29 January, at least 102 people were known to have died, many or most shot. The dead included at least 10 policemen, 3 of whom were killed in Rafah.

By 29 January, 2,000 people were known to be injured.[ The same day, an employee of the Azerbaijani embassy in Egypt was killed while returning home from work in Cairo; the next day Azerbaijan sent a plane to evacuate citizens and opened a criminal investigation into the death.

Funerals for the dead on the "Friday of Anger" were held on 30 January. Hundreds of mourners gathered for the funerals calling for Mubarak's removal. By 1 February, the protests had left at least 125 people dead, although UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay stated that as many as 300 people may have died in anti-government unrest in Egypt according to a report by Human Rights Watch. This unconfirmed tally included 80 HRW-verified deaths at two Cairo hospitals, 36 in Alexandria, and 13 in the port city of Suez, amongst others; over 3,000 people were also reported as injured.

Leading up to the protests, at least six cases of self-immolation were reported, including a man arrested while trying to set himself on fire in downtown Cairo. These cases were inspired by, and began exactly one month after, the acts of self-immolation in Tunisia triggering the 2010--2011 Tunisian uprising. Six instances have been reported, including acts by Abdou Abdel-Moneim Jaafar, Mohammed Farouk Hassan, Mohammed Ashour Sorour, and Ahmed Hashim al-Sayyed who later died from his injuries.

We certainly don't know what's coming,but how can anyone watch these things and still support this tyrant staying out of fear of the unknown?

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All that this girl is saying is that they've had enough.

Then,there's this blog,which is very interesting,especially if you look at the poster's views on religious tolerance and what he encountered in the past from some of his Egyptian colleges.I just read a couple of pieces he wrote in 2005 and they paint a scary perspective,yes.That's why I understand some people's concerns too.But what he said there is not what's happening now and I choose to have faith.I've read he was recently attacked by Mubarak thugs while he was bringing food&medical aid to Tahrir square,btw.
http://www.sandmonkey.org/

Egypt, right now!
I don't know how to start writing this. I have been battling fatigue for not sleeping properly for the past 10 days, moving from one's friend house to another friend's house, almost never spending a night in my home, facing a very well funded and well organized ruthless regime that views me as nothing but an annoying bug that its time to squash will come. The situation here is bleak to say the least.
It didn't start out that way. On Tuesday Jan 25 it all started peacefully, and against all odds, we succeeded to gather hundreds of thousands and get them into Tahrir Square, despite being attacked by Anti-Riot Police who are using sticks, tear gas and rubber bullets against us. We managed to break all of their barricades and situated ourselves in Tahrir. The government responded by shutting down all cell communication in Tahrir square, a move which purpose was understood later when after midnight they went in with all of their might and attacked the protesters and evacuated the Square. The next day we were back at it again, and the day after. Then came Friday and we braved their communication blackout, their thugs, their tear gas and their bullets and we retook the square. We have been fighting to keep it ever since.
That night the government announced a military curfew, which kept getting shorter by the day, until it became from 8 am to 3 pm. People couldn't go to work, gas was running out quickly and so were essential goods and money, since the banks were not allowed to operate and people were not able to collect their salary. The internet continued to be blocked, which affected all businesses in Egypt and will cause an economic meltdown the moment they allow the banks to operate again. We were being collectively punished for daring to say that we deserve democracy and rights, and to keep it up, they withdrew the police, and then sent them out dressed as civilians to terrorize our neighborhoods. I was shot at twice that day, one of which with a semi-automatic by a dude in a car that we the people took joy in pummeling. The government announced that all prisons were breached, and that the prisoners somehow managed to get weapons and do nothing but randomly attack people. One day we had organized thugs in uniforms firing at us and the next day they disappeared and were replaced by organized thugs without uniforms firing at us. Somehow the people never made the connection.
Despite it all, we braved it. We believed we are doing what's right and were encouraged by all those around us who couldn't believe what was happening to their country. What he did galvanized the people, and on Tuesday, despite shutting down all major roads leading into Cairo, we managed to get over 2 million protesters in Cairo alone and 3 million all over Egypt to come out and demand Mubarak's departure. Those are people who stood up to the regime's ruthlessness and anger and declared that they were free, and were refusing to live in the Mubarak dictatorship for one more day. That night, he showed up on TV, and gave a very emotional speech about how he intends to step down at the end of his term and how he wants to die in Egypt, the country he loved and served. To me, and to everyone else at the protests this wasn't nearly enough, for we wanted him gone now. Others started asking that we give him a chance, and that change takes time and other such poppycock. Hell, some people and family members cried when they saw his speech. People felt sorry for him for failing to be our dictator for the rest of his life and inheriting us to his Son. It was an amalgam of Stockholm syndrome coupled with slave mentality in a malevolent combination that we never saw before. And the Regime capitalized on it today.
Today, they brought back the internet, and started having people calling on TV and writing on facebook on how they support Mubarak and his call for stability and peacefull change in 8 months. They hung on to the words of the newly appointed government would never harm the protesters, whom they believe to be good patriotic youth who have a few bad apples amongst them. We started getting calls asking people to stop protesting because "we got what we wanted" and "we need the country to start working again". People were complaining that they miss their lives. That they miss going out at night, and ordering Home Delivery. That they need us to stop so they can resume whatever existence they had before all of this. All was forgiven, the past week never happened and it's time for Unity under Mubarak's rule right now.
To all of those people I say: NEVER! I am sorry that your lives and businesses are disrupted, but this wasn't caused by the Protesters. The Protesters aren't the ones who shut down the internet that has paralyzed your businesses and banks: The government did. The Protesters weren't the ones who initiated the military curfew that limited your movement and allowed goods to disappear off market shelves and gas to disappear: The government did. The Protesters weren't the ones who ordered the police to withdraw and claimed the prisons were breached and unleashed thugs that terrorized your neighborhoods: The government did. The same government that you wish to give a second chance to, as if 30 years of dictatorship and utter failure in every sector of government wasn't enough for you. The Slaves were ready to forgive their master, and blame his cruelty on those who dared to defy him in order to ensure a better Egypt for all of its citizens and their children. After all, he gave us his word, and it's not like he ever broke his promises for reform before or anything.
Then Mubarak made his move and showed them what useful idiots they all were.
You watched on TV as "Pro-Mubarak Protesters" – thugs who were paid money by NDP members by admission of High NDP officials- started attacking the peaceful unarmed protesters in Tahrir square. They attacked them with sticks, threw stones at them, brought in men riding horses and camels- in what must be the most surreal scene ever shown on TV- and carrying whips to beat up the protesters. And then the Bullets started getting fired and Molotov cocktails started getting thrown at the Anti-Mubarak Protesters as the Army standing idly by, allowing it all to happen and not doing anything about it. Dozens were killed, hundreds injured, and there was no help sent by ambulances. The Police never showed up to stop those attacking because the ones who were captured by the Anti-mubarak people had police ID's on them. They were the police and they were there to shoot and kill people and even tried to set the Egyptian Museum on Fire. The Aim was clear: Use the clashes as pretext to ban such demonstrations under pretexts of concern for public safety and order, and to prevent disunity amongst the people of Egypt. But their plans ultimately failed, by those resilient brave souls who wouldn't give up the ground they freed of Egypt, no matter how many live bullets or firebombs were hurled at them. They know, like we all do, that this regime no longer cares to put on a moderate mask. That they have shown their true nature. That Mubarak will never step down, and that he would rather burn Egypt to the ground than even contemplate that possibility.
In the meantime, State-owned and affiliated TV channels were showing coverage of Peaceful Mubarak Protests all over Egypt and showing recorded footage of Tahrir Square protest from the night before and claiming it's the situation there at the moment. Hundreds of calls by public figures and actors started calling the channels saying that they are with Mubarak, and that he is our Father and we should support him on the road to democracy. A veiled girl with a blurred face went on Mehwer TV claiming to have received funding by Americans to go to the US and took courses on how to bring down the Egyptian government through protests which were taught by Jews. She claimed that AlJazeera is lying, and that the only people in Tahrir square now were Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. State TV started issuing statements on how the people arrested Israelis all over Cairo engaged in creating mayhem and causing chaos. For those of you who are counting this is an American-Israeli-Qatari-Muslim Brotherhood-Iranian-Hamas conspiracy. Imagine that. And MANY PEOPLE BOUGHT IT. I recall telling a friend of mine that the only good thing about what happened today was that it made clear to us who were the idiots amongst our friends. Now we know.
Now, just in case this isn't clear: This protest is not one made or sustained by the Muslim Brotherhood, it's one that had people from all social classes and religious background in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood only showed up on Tuesday, and even then they were not the majority of people there by a long shot. We tolerated them there since we won't say no to fellow Egyptians who wanted to stand with us, but neither the Muslims Brotherhood not any of the Opposition leaders have the ability to turn out one tenth of the numbers of Protesters that were in Tahrir on Tuesday. This is a revolution without leaders. Three Million individuals choosing hope instead of fear and braving death on hourly basis to keep their dream of freedom alive. Imagine that.
The End is near. I have no illusions about this regime or its leader, and how he will pluck us and hunt us down one by one till we are over and done with and 8 months from now will pay people to stage fake protests urging him not to leave power, and he will stay "because he has to acquiesce to the voice of the people". This is a losing battle and they have all the weapons, but we will continue fighting until we can't. I am heading to Tahrir right now with supplies for the hundreds injured, knowing that today the attacks will intensify, because they can't allow us to stay there come Friday, which is supposed to be the game changer. We are bringing everybody out, and we will refuse to be anything else than peaceful. If you are in Egypt, I am calling on all of you to head down to Tahrir today and Friday. It is imperative to show them that the battle for the soul of Egypt isn't over and done with. I am calling you to bring your friends, to bring medical supplies, to go and see what Mubarak's gurantees look like in real life. Egypt needs you. Be Heroes.

 

[Severus Snape]

Those were Pro-Mubarak thugs.There may have been cases of violence against journalists from protesters too,I don't know,but most of the ones I've seen reported were by Pro-Mubarak people and some of them with protesters actually forming a human chain to try to protect journalists& foreigners.

I've been following various sources and some of the things I've seen I will never forget.I wish I could,as some of the horrors are in the back on my mind all the time now.
One of the sites is the one connected with this group :http://www.facebook.com/elshaheeed.co.uk
I won't post the direct link to the site and please,be advised that if you decide to go there you will see some VERY disturbing pics.
Another one is this stream from twitter :
http://twitter.com/20m/egiptodirecto
One of the twits just led me to a video titled "Police shoot boy in cold blood From Egypt".Again,I won't post the video,but here's the description :
We certainly don't know what's coming,but how can anyone watch these things and still support this tyrant staying out of fear of the unknown?

Ah, thanks for clarifying. In any case, it's still quite horrible--what happened to Anderson. He's still there--and it seems like the whole situation has truly blown up into something uncontrollable.

 

[souldreamer7]

Breaking News in Cairo Egypt Right Now!

Breaking: Live coverage of Mubarak's speech in Cairo's Tahrir Square

Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak may step down.

*Streaming Live now*

http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish?feature=ticker

Live via CNN MSNBC FOX etc.



Embattled Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak will address his country on live television on Thursday evening, as signs emerge that he is on the verge of resigning after the army stepped in to "safeguard the country."

The news of Mubarak's pending address came hours after Gen. Hassan al-Roueini, the military commander for the Cairo area, told protesters Thursday that "all your demands will be met today."

Al-Roueini made his announcement in Tahrir Square, the area in central Cairo where protesters have held mass demonstrations for the past 17 days as they try to oust Mubarak and his regime.

Protesters carried al-Roueini on their shoulders and marched around Tahrir Square shouting "the army, the people one hand."

The raging protests have left Egypt's capital city in a state of turmoil as the 82-year-old Mubarak and his government have tried many tactics to end the unrest.

Since the protests began on Jan. 25, the Egyptian president overhauled his cabinet, appointed a vice president and pledged not to run in the election later this year.

But the defiant protesters have stuck to their guns and insisted that Mubarak must leave power immediately.

On state television, the military's supreme council announced Thursday that it supported "the legitimate demands of the people" in Egypt.

Footage on TV showed the council meeting without Mubarak, his military chief, or Vice President Omar Suleiman being present.

Time magazine correspondent Abigail Hauslohner told CTV News Channel that there are reports Mubarak has already handed power over to the Egyptian military and will step down on Thursday.

CTV's Washington Bureau Chief Paul Workman said many Egyptians are growing concerned about what will happen as Mubarak steps down from power.

"I think what people are concerned about and very worried about is that the army will step in -- it is taking a much stronger role it seems," Workman told CTV News Channel from Washington on Thursday.

Workman said the sense is that Egypt could see a period of "momentous change" over the next few hours and there are a lot of unanswered questions about what will happen to their president.

"Where will President Mubarak go, will he leave the country? Will he move to Sharm-el-Sheikh to his house there? What will happen inside the presidential palace? Will Omar Suleiman, who is now the vice president, will he in fact become the new president or will a general start running Egypt?"

CIA Director Leon Panetta said U.S. intelligence indicates there is a "high likelihood" that Mubarak could resign by the end of Thursday.

Mubarak took power in Egypt in October 1981, after former president Anwar Sadat was assassinated.

He had served as Sadat's vice president and took the slain president's place after the assassination.

The anti-government protesters blame Mubarak and his regime for many social and economic problems that Egypt has suffered during his three decades-long rule in Cairo.

With files from The Associated Press

Watch live now: coverage from CTV News Channel leading up to Mubarak's announcement.

 

[Alma]

... Don't know how this will play out...

 

[Selene]

Thank you for posting this,I was ready to turn off the computer when I saw it.I had troubles with the stream at first,but was able to follow the speech through twitter.
The stubborn

won't quit!
http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/02/10/responding_to_the_worst_speech_ever
People are rightly frustrated and angered.
"There is also a strong sense of shame in #Tahrir tonight. Shame at thinking #Mubarak could respect them." Reading tweets like this is so disheartening,I just hope things don't turn violent.Stay strong Egypt!:angel:

 

[souldreamer7]

http://abcnews.go.com/International...otesters-demand-resignation/story?id=12891572

Egypt's embattled President Hosni Mubarak left the presidential palace in Cairo today but remains in Egypt, sources told ABC News, as protesters kept the pressure on the government to force Mubarak out of office.

The military announced on state television today that the regime's much hated emergency law will be lifted when the security situation allows, encouraging protesters to leave the streets and return to their homes.

Instead, protesters were defiant, filling Tahrir Square for an 18th day to demand Mubarak's ouster as thousands more marched toward the state television building, a prime new target for today's protests.

"It is important for the regime, not for the people, because they have been lying and spreading propaganda," one protester told ABC News referring to the television building. "Once this building is down, the regime is down as well."

Egypt's controversial emergency laws have been in place since the assassination of President Anwar Sadat in 1967 and give the government far-reaching powers at the expense of judicial review and civil liberties.

The side streets around Tahrir, or Liberation, Square were packed as crowds streamed toward what has become the heart of these 18-day long anti-government demonstration. Instead of the rage felt Thursday night when Mubarak went on national television and said he would not leave office, there appeared to be a new energy and determination in the crowd.

The health ministry doubled the number of ambulances parked outside the square, and there was a mobile hospital. But soldiers seemed relaxed, smiling at the crowds.

Similar scenes played out in the port cities of Alexandria and Mansoura.

Wael Ghonim, a Google executive who has become the international face of protests since he was arrested by security forces in late Jan. 28, took to Al Arabiya television to speak for the demonstrators.

Saying the army should be the caretaker of the revolution, the 30-year-old said Egyptian people want true freedom of press and the right in establishing satellite channels and newspapers. He also demanded that Egyptians living abroad be given the right to vote, and that a transparent election be held in September.

The military, a revered institution, is seemingly maintaining a neutral position, but also asking for people to return to normal life.

The United States is keenly watching developments in Egypt, one of its closest partners and allies in the region.

Late Thursday, President Obama issued a stern written statement telling Mubarak he needs to do more to outline concrete steps for reform.

"The Egyptian people have been told that there was a transition of authority, but it is not yet clear that this transition is immediate, meaningful or sufficient," Obama said. "The Egyptian government must put forward a credible, concrete and unequivocal path toward genuine democracy, and they have not yet seized that opportunity."

Obama also pushed the Egyptian leadership to be clearer about its intentions and how it will address the demands of the Egyptian people.

"We therefore urge the Egyptian government to move swiftly to explain the changes that have been made, and to spell out in clear and unambiguous language the step-by-step process that will lead to democracy and the representative government that the Egyptian people seek," he said.

Hundreds of thousands of people gathered in Tahrir Square Thursday expecting to hear Mubarak say he was leaving, but were disappointed when the president only said he was transferring more powers to Vice President Omar Suleiman.

In an address directed to the youth of Egypt, Mubarak said he was pained by the deaths that have occurred since protests began on Jan. 25.

"The blood of the martyrs and the injured will not go in vain," he said. "I will not hesitate to fiercely punish those who are responsible. I will hold those in charge who have violated the rights of our youth with the harshest punishment stipulated in the law."

The United Nations and Human Rights Watch estimates that 300 people have been killed in Egypt's protests.


President Obama Issues Stern Statement on Egypt
February 10, 2011 8:22 PM

ABC News' Jon Garcia reports:

President Obama, following a day of uncertainty in Egypt and after a lengthy meeting in the Oval Office with his national security team this evening, issued a stern statement on the state of affairs in the Middle East country.

&#8220;The Egyptian people have been told that there was a transition of authority, but it is not yet clear that this transition is immediate, meaningful or sufficient," Obama's written statement read. "The Egyptian government must put forward a credible, concrete and unequivocal path toward genuine democracy, and they have not yet seized that opportunity.

&#8220;We believe that the emergency law should be lifted,&#8221; Obama added. "We believe that meaningful negotiations with the broad opposition and Egyptian civil society should address the key questions confronting Egypt&#8217;s future: protecting the fundamental rights of all citizens; revising the Constitution and other laws to demonstrate irreversible change; and jointly developing a clear roadmap to elections that are free and fair.&#8221;

He also pushed the Egyptian leadership to be clearer about their intentions and how they will address the demands of the masses who have been protesting now for more than two weeks in Cairo and elsewhere in Egypt.

&#8220;We therefore urge the Egyptian government to move swiftly to explain the changes that have been made, and to spell out in clear and unambiguous language the step by step process that will lead to democracy and the representative government that the Egyptian people seek,&#8221; Obama wrote. "There must be restraint by all parties. Violence must be forsaken. It is imperative that the government not respond to the aspirations of their people with repression or brutality. The voices of the Egyptian people must be heard.&#8221;

Obama closed his statement with this: &#8220;In these difficult times, I know that the Egyptian people will persevere, and they must know that they will continue to have a friend in the United States of America.&#8221;

--Jon Garcia

Here is the full statement:

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE February 10, 2011

Statement of President Barack Obama on Egypt

The Egyptian people have been told that there was a transition of authority, but it is not yet clear that this transition is immediate, meaningful or sufficient. Too many Egyptians remain unconvinced that the government is serious about a genuine transition to democracy, and it is the responsibility of the government to speak clearly to the Egyptian people and the world. The Egyptian government must put forward a credible, concrete and unequivocal path toward genuine democracy, and they have not yet seized that opportunity.

As we have said from the beginning of this unrest, the future of Egypt will be determined by the Egyptian people. But the United States has also been clear that we stand for a set of core principles. We believe that the universal rights of the Egyptian people must be respected, and their aspirations must be met. We believe that this transition must immediately demonstrate irreversible political change, and a negotiated path to democracy. To that end, we believe that the emergency law should be lifted. We believe that meaningful negotiations with the broad opposition and Egyptian civil society should address the key questions confronting Egypt&#8217;s future: protecting the fundamental rights of all citizens; revising the Constitution and other laws to demonstrate irreversible change; and jointly developing a clear roadmap to elections that are free and fair.

We therefore urge the Egyptian government to move swiftly to explain the changes that have been made, and to spell out in clear and unambiguous language the step by step process that will lead to democracy and the representative government that the Egyptian people seek. Going forward, it will be essential that the universal rights of the Egyptian people be respected. There must be restraint by all parties. Violence must be forsaken. It is imperative that the government not respond to the aspirations of their people with repression or brutality. The voices of the Egyptian people must be heard.

The Egyptian people have made it clear that there is no going back to the way things were: Egypt has changed, and its future is in the hands of the people. Those who have exercised their right to peaceful assembly represent the greatness of the Egyptian people, and are broadly representative of Egyptian society. We have seen young and old, rich and poor, Muslim and Christian join together, and earn the respect of the world through their non-violent calls for change. In that effort, young people have been at the forefront, and a new generation has emerged. They have made it clear that Egypt must reflect their hopes, fulfill their highest aspirations, and tap their boundless potential. In these difficult times, I know that the Egyptian people will persevere, and they must know that they will continue to have a friend in the United States of America.

Egypt Is Free
February 11th, 2011

Egypt's embattled President Hosni Mubarak abruptly stepped down as president, ending his 30-year-reign, and Egyptian armed forces took control of the country's leadership, Vice President Omar Suleiman announced today.

Crowds gathered in Cairo's Tahrir Square erupted into loud cheers, chanting "Egypt is free, Egypt is free," as the historic announcement was made.

"My fellow citizens. In this difficult time that the country is going through, President Mohamed Hosni Mubarak has decided to relieve himself of his position as president and the Supreme military council has taken control of the state's affairs. May God protect us," Suleiman said during his somber one-minute announcement on TV.

The surprise statement ended Mubarak's 30-year rule, making him the second Arab leader forced to quit by a remarkable populist and largely peaceful uprising. Last month, Tunisia's president Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali resigned and left the country in the face of massive street protests against his regime.

Mubarak's resignation comes 18 days since the beginning of protests that have left 300 dead, according to the United Nations, and rocked the region.

The higher military council, which has taken over the country, is headed by Defense Minister Mohammed Hussein Tantawi. He was made deputy prime minister just two weeks ago in an effort to appease protesters, and visited Tahrir Square during the demonstrations.

"Welcome back Egypt," tweeted Google executive Wael Ghonim, who has become the face of protests since he was detained by security forces last month.

Men, women and children alike -- many with tears in their eyes -- flooded into Cairo's streets as the atmosphere turned from one of determination to pure ecstasy. People streamed into Tahrir Square dancing, honking their car horns and waving flags.

"The Egyptian people won," a thrilled Amr Hamadi said.

Hamadi, a 32-year-old factory worker who was celebrating with other protesters near the presidential palace, said, "Egypt will be in 10 years one of the best countries in the world."

"This is the greatest day of my life," Nobel Laureate and opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei said. "The country has been liberated."

As protesters in Cairo's streets celebrated with joy, some demanded that Mubarak be tried.

The news has significant implications for the world and the United States. Egypt is one of the United States' closest allies in the region, a key economic partner and only one of two Arab states that recognize Israel.

"What's at stake in Egypt is not just about Egypt alone, it just won't touch Egypt alone," Vice President Joe Biden said today.

Though the White House has distanced itself from Mubarak's administration over recent weeks, Mubarak was a close U.S. partner, helping broker peace deals between Israel and Palestine and supporting the U.S. in its wars against Iraq.

President Obama was informed of Mubarak's decision to step down during a meeting in the Oval Office, and he watched TV coverage of the scene in Cairo for several minutes in the outer Oval office. He is scheduled to make a statement on camera at 1:30 p.m. ET.
Edit* U.S.A President Obama will speak at 3 PM EST.

Mubarak's resignation was celebrated all over the Arab world.

In Gaza City, hundreds came out onto the streets firing weapons in the air in celebration. Fireworks erupted in Beirut as Mubarak's resignation was announced and people driving by the Egyptian embassy in Amman honked in celebration.



Egypt Is Free!

 

[Tony R]

And he's gone...........

Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader

Hosni Mubarak has decided to step down as president of Egypt.

In an announcement on state TV, Vice-President Omar Suleiman said Mr Mubarak had handed power to the military.

It came as thousands massed in Cairo and other Egyptian cities for an 18th day of protest to demand Mr Mubarak's resignation.

Protesters responded by cheering, waving flags, embracing and sounding car horns. "The people have brought down the regime," they chanted.

Mr Suleiman said Mr Mubarak had handed power to the high command of the armed forces.

"In the name of God the merciful, the compassionate, citizens, during these very difficult circumstances Egypt is going through, President Hosni Mubarak has decided to step down from the office of president of the republic and has charged the high council of the armed forces to administer the affairs of the country," he said.

Military sources said the military high command was headed by Defence Minister Mohamed Hussein Tantawi.

Mr Mubarak has already left Cairo and is in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh where he has a residence, officials say.

In Cairo, thousands of people are gathered outside the presidential palace, in Tahrir Square and at state TV.

They came out in anger following an address by Mr Mubarak on Thursday. He had been expected to announce his resgination but instead stopped short of stepping down, transferring most powers to Mr Suleiman.

The BBC's Jon Leyne in Cairo said the announcement caught everyone by surprise, and all over the city drivers honked their horns and people fired guns into the air.

But the army takeover looks very much like a military coup, our correspondent adds.

The constitution has been breached, he says, because officially it should be the speaker of parliament who takes over, not the army leadership.

The anti-government protests that began on 25 January were triggered by widespread unrest in Egypt over unemployment, poverty and corruption.

They followed a popular uprising in Tunisia which brought about the downfall of President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12433045

 

[ForeverKOP]

Mubarak has resigned!

 

[Member Service]

I feel for these people, and I wish them all to be safe and well.