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Murray trial Day 23, November 3rd - discussion

Walgren says why did Murray call his female-friend Sade Anding in Houston?

can this estabslish the fact that Murray did not just go to the bathroom for 2 minutes and came back and saw MJ was not breathing? could him talking to Sade Anding be the time Murray noticed MJ was not breathing?
 
I just got home and logged in and have heard just these few minutes of david...my lord the hair stood up on my neck hearing how much time mrry spent on the phone, etc. Walgren is tying things up , when you hear it like this...I get the chills...
 
we will NEVER know how long MJ was in that condition...

was Murray in another room? did MJ yell out for help? did Michael gasp, did Michael choke? were there sounds? we dont know and we will NEVER know because of the neglect of murray


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Walgren is brilliant and his words are harrowing and damning for Murray.
 
Vici said:
we will NEVER know how long MJ was in that condition...

was Murray in another room? did MJ yell out for help? did Michael gasp, did Michael choke? were there sounds? we dont know and we will NEVER know because of the neglect of murray


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On that photo is that Sade anding?

I was very sick earlyer so i missed half hour of walgren :( Did he mentioned propofol amount, model shafer and fingerprints yet?

And the fingerprints where adressed before you say ivy, thx for that, what was said in trial about it. No fingerprints of michael on anything right??
 
I feel sick...but walgren is yes brilliant...he makes it so damn vivid... a mile and a half...the difference between life and death...
 
Ambulance was just 1 mile and half ... remember how long it took to call 911 and in how many minutes the ambulance arrived.. all the help could have reached MJ within 4 minutes...

but we dont know how long time MJ layed in bed like that, it could have been too late, we dont know...

:(
 
Walgren mentions Murray delaying calling 911 for 20 minutes for the sole the purpose of self-preservation. There it is!
 
LOL! THE cargo pockets are mentioned in the photo of Murray entering the emergecy room. GAH!
 
Vici said:
Ambulance was just 1 mile and half ... remember how long it took to call 911 and in how many minutes the ambulance arrived.. all the help could have reached MJ within 4 minutes...

but we dont know how long time MJ layed in bed like that, it could have been too late, we dont know...

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We simply do not know. However at least he would have had a chance had 911 been called straight away.
 
twinklEE said:
This is what Murray did yesterday

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Is this sade anding?
 
Walgren says Murray thought they (police) had already found the bags...
 
Walgren -- talking about Murray giving the police interview becuz he suspected police had discovered the hidden bags and wanted to get ahead of the police by protecting himself. He concocted a story around the evidence. Self-preservation. Murray thinking only of Murray. However, Murray's version of events doesn't match up with evidence of emails and phone calls.

Lovin' ya, David! GET HIM!
 
Great he brought up the cargo pants. Walgren brings up all the points we have made--great minds think alike!!
 
Walgren -- Murray doesn't mention using the Ambu bag and we know it was purchased and in the room. He does mouth to mouth instead. No other equipment...EKG machine, etc..
 
It was not MJ time to go. MJ's children are without a father.The reason MJ is not here today, is because of the careless, negligence careless incompetence of Murray. MJ is dead at the hands of Murray.....Prosecutor Walgren's
 
chernoff in the background taking notes...Walgren: extreme gross negligence, criminal negligence. abandonment of his patient.

Murray only concerned with murray
 
oh good one david...he could record michael on his Iphone but not document one single thing
 
hey

I started this thread with these points:

1. propofol at home
2. no equipment
3. delay of 911 call
4. cover up by not telling about propofol to medics/ucla
5. Fingerprints
6. model of shafer of propofol drip
7. Michael died while cm was away!
8. Cm phonecalls
9. Lorezapam in the stomach, why
10. Michael did not do this to himself!
11. Many violetions, and deviations of care
12. MONEY he asked for 5 mil!

Alot of it Walgren already adressed. If im correct only 5,6,9,10 not yet right?
 
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