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hmmm wow
 
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Quincy Jones WAS A GENIUS ONLY WHEN HE WORKED WITH MICHAEL.

It's a shame that a guy like this was there for this ceremony. With all he said AND STILL SAYS NOW about MIke or his NO-BIOLOGICAL KIDS it's an insult for Mike, and his kids btw.

Justin something is a nobody in the musical history, it's an insult to the music. He shouldn't be there.

The only artists, REAL ARTISTS, who should have been there, are Stevie Wonder, Prince and Paul Mc Cartney. THEY ARE MUSIC and they never trashed Michael like Quincy is doing.

 
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mjchris said:
you really read the post? ^
you really understand i'm talking about the music production? the creating? noone talks about a fan buying a cd. ^
quincy was a big part of this creation/production. and YES, he deserves it. more than most others.
it seems u hate quincy so much, and u dont want to have him as the creator of all this 3 masterpieces?
ok, and if u ask me if i hate bieber. oh yeah. :)
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So you hate Bieber because he makes bad music? Why would you hate someone for making music you don't like? Yet you seem to love Quincy Jones after all that he has said about Michael? Wow.
 
Diplomate said:
Quincy Jones WAS A GENIUS ONLY WHEN HE WORKED WITH MICHAEL.

It's a shame that a guy like this was there for thjis ceremony. With all he said AND STILL SAYS NOW about MIke or his NO-BIOLOGICAL KIDS it's an insult for Mike, and his kids btw.

Justin something is a nobody in the musical history, it's an insult to the music. He shouldn't be there.

The only artists, REAL ARTISTS, who should have been there, are Stevie Wonder, Prince and Paul Mc Cartney. THEY ARE MUSIC and they never trashed Michael like Quincy is doing.
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when it comes to MJ, it seems like almost everybody has a few violation points against them, some bigger offenders than others. I consider QJ a major offender, Paul McCartney turned a lot of people against MJ when he claimed that MJ bought the Beatles catalog behind his back, heck even Michael's own mother has talked crap about her son (toothpick nose). Bieber's not my kind of music but he's not such a bad option when you look at the alternatives. I'd rather have strangers who have nice things to say about him pay tribute than a bunch of phoney friends who will say anything for the right price.

Bieber might be a stranger but he seems to understand important things about MJ like how losing his childhood affected him so badly (something people like QJ and the Jackson's STILL brush off)
 
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I think it was a nice mix. Quincy represented MJ Achievments of the past. Bieber represented MJ on goin influence on young people even today, Chris Tucker represented a personal true friend of MJs and MJ kids shows how much his kids love him and showed how great of a father he was.

Call me crazy but, I see nothin wrong here interms of representing what MJ meant to music and as a friend. Even though people like Q said some ish I don't approve of he was there only representing MJ musical side. And imma take it as only that. lol Bieber was the influence side and speaking as a fan which was cool!
 
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I didnt like seeing Quincy Jones there either and then he was coming out with the same story about how he met Michael. Still his name will always go along Michaels when it comes to creating Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. He did creat music history with Michael. Of course he did say bad things about Mj and most people have. The mostly do this to draw attention to themselves which is so sad.
 
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no one who talks crap about mj should be anywhere near such events or his kids full stop
 
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I agree but, u know tell it to MJ's Estate who choose those people for whatever reason? Maybe for the reasons I think they were there for? But, if Teddy Riley was picked over Q he would have gotten bashed too by some fans. No win or lose situation here from what I see. So I rather look at it the way I said I did. In a category kind of way. Music history, influence, friendship and a father.
 
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If they estate asked him id expect better from them if it were the jacksons id expect it. but no one would have gone Q should be here if he wasnt. It wasnt a necessity
 
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I don't think the Estate ever think about those things and they have cocked up in the past. Pity none of Michael's brothers or his mum got to speak.
 
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Cocked up in picking the wrong ppl?
 
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The Jacksons wouldn't have done any better in pickin the people....that's for sure.
 
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I enjoyed it. I do wish Stevie Wonder could have been there. Is LaToya boycotting everything put on by the MJJ Estate?
 
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Shes probably banned considering what she said about branca. but she just tells paris she has a meeting!
 
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bluetopez said:
The Jacksons wouldn't have any better....that's for sure.
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They would've invited the most random people.
 
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sharon007 said:
I don't think the Estate ever think about those things and they have cocked up in the past. Pity none of Michael's brothers or his mum got to speak.
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Tito spoke, Katherine Jackson also briefly spoke during the event. They didn't give long speeches (both of seemed very emotional). I watched the online stream, and yes, both of what you mentioned as missing, did indeed happen. They actually entered by being on the stage, before they took their seats.

So apparently both the Estate and family are able to keep it civil during such events.
 
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Didn't Prince tweet something about disrespecting when you are gone and about the # of people who do respect you is sick? Something like that. When I read things that Prince says that it makes me wonder how much he reall does know and is aware of.

I thought it was a great event. If I ever get to go to California it is something I would love to see and his hollywood star too.
 
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thank you for all the pics and video. I didn't get to see it, but if I had I probably would have cried. Gosh, how I miss him, it is still unbelievable that he is gone. So sad
 
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KingMikeJ said:
So you hate Bieber because he makes bad music? Why would you hate someone for making music you don't like? Yet you seem to love Quincy Jones after all that he has said about Michael? Wow.
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that is what you said. i didnt say that.
the reason is private. :)
 
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KingMikeJ said:
So you hate Bieber because he makes bad music? Why would you hate someone for making music you don't like? Yet you seem to love Quincy Jones after all that he has said about Michael? Wow.
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everyone is saying bad things about someone in his life. EVERYONE.
you are talking like that the whole world is like JESUS. huh?

when i always read this post in forums about michael. uh, hey this idiot talked bad about michael jackson, we have to hate him. hate him!
thats childless.
so if quincy talked bad things about michael. quincy is the same bad guy like sneddon? or like bashir? or dimond?
these three are bad bad people, cause they wanted or did things that hurts michael really. everything they did was in the media. and they used it to destroy him.
quincy was and is not like that. ok, i also dont like what he said or is still saying. but he is not a bad guy. or did the media said "hey quincy is now talking true stories about michael jackson, we have to use this. gogogo!. we have to make big stories about that and hurt/destroy this weirdo."

fans always see it so dramatical when some of his friends saying stupid things.
how often did you said some stupid things about your friends? huh? or your mother or your father?
or you are JESUS!?!?

bfff, god ^^
 
A few statements that caught my eyes:
"if quincy was not there, albums like off the wall, thriller and bad would not exist."
and
"it seems u hate quincy so much, and u dont want to have him as the creator of all this 3 masterpieces?"

Those statements are just plain wrong!
Those albums would exist with or without Quincy but not without Michael. If you take away Michael, what you have got?
Nothing! If Quincy had said no to Michael, he would have had someone else to produce his albums, so they most definitely would exist without Quincy. It wasn't only Quincy that made these albums success, although it helped along the road but
producer's name doesn't sell albums. The credit belongs to three of them, MJ, Bruce and Quincy.

Creator of all this 3 masterpieces!
Do you think Quincy was creator of those albums?
I do not think so.
The fact is that Michael was incredible talent before and after Quincy and driving force for those albums. I’m well aware of what music producer job description, and it is not creator of album.


You paint Michael in a light that makes him look like he did nothing for those albums and all the credit belongs to Quincy!
As a matter of fact, Michael's next albums without Q did extremely well, although not as well as Triller but as well as Bad and better than Off The Wall.
I would understand these statements if Quincy was behind of other artist which became as big success as Michael, but as far as I know, there is not such an artist, so to give all the credit to Quincy would be overestimating his input.
 
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mjchris said:
quincy is a legend that deserves that. yes he said stupid things about MJ, but that doesnt change anything he achieved. he is like michael jackson a legend. thats why he deserves it 100.000.000 times more than someone like bieber.
i would choose quincy.

its weird. lisa marie talked shit about MJ, but now, years later everyone loves her. quincy did that too. but most fans hate him?
maybe not enough time passed? maybe in 5 years? or 10?
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I didn't know about the universal love for LM, but in any event, Quincy is a different case in my eyes. Quincy was seen as someone truly like a brother or even father to MJ. His comments impacted a whole lot differently and on a much deeper level. It's like with anything else when it comes to "family." When a friend or a disgruntled ex betrays you, that's one thing, but when a brother or sister does it, it hurts to the bone.

I will never ever see Quincy Jones as I once did. 5 years, 10 years, 20 years from now....I'll always remember how he came out just after his "little brother" died to COMPLETELY disrepect him, even had the nerve to say something about his kids. When he was looking over at Katherine and PPB at the ceremony, I'm surprised he didn't choke.

Don't hate him, do think he's definitely deserving of the legend title as an artist, but he's just as deserving as a legendary hypocrite title.
 
Bubs;3591156 said:
A few statements that caught my eyes:
"if quincy was not there, albums like off the wall, thriller and bad would not exist."
and
"it seems u hate quincy so much, and u dont want to have him as the creator of all this 3 masterpieces?"

Those statements are just plain wrong!
Those albums would exist with or without Quincy but not without Michael. If you take away Michael, what you have got?
Nothing! If Quincy had said no to Michael, he would have had someone else to produce his albums, so they most definitely would exist without Quincy. It wasn't only Quincy that made these albums success, although it helped along the road but
producer's name doesn't sell albums. The credit belongs to three of them, MJ, Bruce and Quincy.

Creator of all this 3 masterpieces!
Do you think Quincy was creator of those albums?
I do not think so.
The fact is that Michael was incredible talent before and after Quincy and driving force for those albums. I’m well aware of what music producer job description, and it is not creator of album.


You paint Michael in a light that makes him look like he did nothing for those albums and all the credit belongs to Quincy!
As a matter of fact, Michael's next albums without Q did extremely well, although not as well as Triller but as well as Bad and better than Off The Wall.
I would understand these statements if Quincy was behind of other artist which became as big success as Michael, but as far as I know, there is not such an artist, so to give all the credit to Quincy would be overestimating his input.
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sure they would exist. ^^ lol. i mean take another producer, and u create an album.
but not like the final product. would not sound like the final product. thats the point in my arguments.

Do you think Quincy was creator of those albums?
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^^
he was one of the producers. ^


i dont know in what direction you want to go with your arguments. but u now starting to talking about....
is michael jackson not talented?
was dangerous not a good album?
did only quincy produced this albums?

that is not what i'm talking about.
i talk about quincy on producing these 3 albums. nothing else.
he was there, he produced. and thats it.
 
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Bubs said:
The fact is that Michael was incredible talent before and after Quincy and driving force for those albums.
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A good example of that would be Quincy's NEW version of "We Are The World." I don't mean no harm, but the joint was HORRIBLE.

Poor Qunicy "probably" thought that HIS version was gonna set the world on fire. LOL - NOT!
 
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^^^I've come to believe that Quincy greatly resented people said MJ MADE him. I can understand him not liking it, because I don't like hearing it about his making MJ. But his turn on MJ was just nasty.

Even after their breakup after Bad, MJ did a cover shoot for his Vibe magazine in the 90's. MJ never did anything but speak respectfully of QJ. Sure wish Q could have given him the same respect.
 
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"sure they would exist. ^^ lol. i mean take another producer, and u create an album.
but not like the final product. would not sound like the final product. thats the point in my arguments."

Are you saying that if Michael got another producer, his albums would not have been as good?
If your answer is yes, how do you know?
They could have been even better without Q :D
------------------------------------------------------------------------
All the fairness, you did write this "u dont want to have him as the creator of all this 3 masterpieces?"

There is a difference between creator and one of the creators.
 
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Michael always thanked Quincy. Whenever he won a special award he would mention Quincy and this was long after they were not working together anymore. Michael always gave Quincy RESPECT especially publically. Quincy did not do that for him. A lot of people didn't do that for Michael and maybe that was what Prince was tweeting about disrespect to his father. Who knows. I really don't know if Quincy loves Michael, hates him or is jealous or what. I don't have a problem acknowledging his role in Michael's professional life but it is just sad that you see him now and I actually don't want to hear him talk about Michael because I am afraid of what he might say.

As for Justin Bieber being there. I think it's fine if he genuinely respects Michael and I haven't heard him say anything bad. It's good for the younger talent and people to know about Michael and his work. Some people just think of him as the guy who always was at court or wearing a mask because they were too young when even Dangerous came out. They just follow what the media said and not paid attention to the music and who Michael really was.
 
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