[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

This is another failed extortion attempt. could be revenge for not being part of cirque du soleil or some other beef with the MJ estate. but one thing is certain his career is done. plus, i have a sneaky suspicion he could be arrested.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I just finished watching the Wade Interview with The TODAY show on Youtube. Clearly Wade is lying! He really, truly & honestly was NOT BELIEVABLE to me!! He says he remembers everything MJ did to him, but now hides behind the B.S that he didn't want to admit to himself it was abuse? Yet, at the same time saying MJ threatened him! HUh?! How can he sit there and say that basically he didn't know what MJ was allegedly doin was wrong? But, Wade wouldn't a threat tell u so? Come on, dude! U make no sense!

He also said MJ manipulated, brainwashed, roll played with him and trained him by phone during the 03 allegations and 05 trial. WTF? Is this guy for real? U don't see Brett Barnes saying crap like that, he said his conscience was clear on twitter!! MJ had Wade, Brett and Culkin testifying on his behalf in 05 because the prosecution was saying MJ molested all of them. No one in their right minds would risk that if they were guilty. MJ even tried to subpoena Ray Chandler for Christ sake! He was that CONFIDENT!

It's a shame how easy it is to accuse someone these days and how easily a therapist can use any excuse to explain it away like I see is goin on with Wade. He can easily find an reason from a therapist to say "HIS truth!" Oh and he says he won't be silence for Money...but, he filed a creditor's claim and ready for a civil trial for MONEY! Or is he saying even after this, win or lose he will be a spokesperson for this alleged abuse?
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Alan Duke reports Tajs story on CNN


Los Angeles (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's nephew revealed Thursday that when he was molested as a child, Jackson "was a support system for me and my mom."

Taj Jackson, 35, claimed he was a child sex abuse victim in a series of Twitter messages posted in response to Wade Robson's televised claim that Michael Jackson molested him. "I will not let them smear my Uncle's legacy," he tweeted.

Robson, a dancer who frequently visited Jackson's Neverland Ranch as a child, called Jackson "a pedophile and a child sexual abuser" in an interview Thursday on NBC's "Today Show." He said Jackson "performed sexual acts on me and forced me to perform sexual acts on him" from ages 7 to 14.

Apparently Taj Jackson, one of three sons of Tito Jackson and co-guardian of Michael Jackson's children, posted a series of Twitter messages in defense of his uncle, Michael Jackson.

"I hate that Wade made me do this, this way," Taj Jackson tweeted. "But since my uncle Michael is no longer here to defend himself. I will."

"I am writing these words knowing that the minute I press send, my life will never be the same afterwards," he tweeted, before claiming in another tweet that he was sexually abused as a child by a relative.

Michael Jackson "was a support system for me and my mom," he tweeted. "He wrote a letter to her that many have seen already, u just didn't know what it was about."

He posted a photo of that handwritten note from Michael Jackson to Taj's mother Dee Dee Jackson:
"Dee Dee, Please read this article about child molestation and read it to Taj, T.J. and Taryll. It brings out how even your own relatives can be molesters of children, or even uncles or aunts molesting nephew or nieces. Please read. Love MJ."

It was his own childhood experience that qualified him to question Robson's accusations, he said. "That is how I KNOW Wade is lying. Because I AM a survivor."

Robson, now 30, denied in testimony at Jackson's child molestation trial in 2005 that he had been molested by the singer. Jackson was acquitted, partly based on the testimony of Robson, his sister and his mother. Tom Mesereau, the lawyer who successfully defended Jackson in the trial, said he was one of his strongest witnesses.

Robson said Thursday that his denial was the result of Jackson's "complete manipulation and brainwashing" of him.

"Don't forget I was living at Neverland when Wade testified during my uncle's case," Taj Jackson tweeted. "I sat there and ate dinner with him and his family."

Robson, who filed a creditor's claim against Jackson's estate this month, insisted in the NBC interview he was not now coming forward because of money. "The idea that I would make all of this up and put myself, my wife, my son, my entire family through this extremely stressful and painful experience all for the sake of money is completely incomprehensible," he said.

Taj Jackson's tweets challenged Robson's explanation. "What people will $ay and do for money and to $tay relevant is $ickening. De$perate times call for De$perate mea$ures. I will not sit back and let someone flat out lie about my uncle. PERIOD."

"I always told my uncle Michael that I would take a bullet for him," he tweeted. "I mean it today just as much as I meant it back then."
Taj Jackson was appointed as a co-guardian of Michael Jackson's three children last year.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/16/showbiz/taj-jackson-sex-abuse/
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Note: Debbie as in Deborah Kunesh who owns the 'Reflections of the dance" website.

https://www.facebook.com/deborahkunesh?hc_location=stream

Glad to hear this statement! I wish everybody who has been to Neverland or was close to Michael as a kid would speak up and defend him..!
The more I hear about this the more I just can't wrap my head around it.. How can anyone be so cruel? I guess when there's enough money involved, people lose all their morals & principals.. I just hope this gets treated like the bullsh*t it is, and he won't get far with it.. otherwise it will definitely open up the floodgates for all the other opportunists out there.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

no one buys it unless they want to hate on Mike. even those who are supporting him claim the police found child pornography in MJ's house , no one educated on the case would ever support this liar

It's amazing to me how ignorant some people are. Who can possibly believe that the police discovered child porn in MJ's possession but didn't charge him with anything?

The people who believe MJ was a child molester always come up with the same easily refutable arguments. "MJ owned child porn". "MJ was only interested in boys". "MJ only allowed children to come to Neverland, he wanted to isolate them from their families". "MJ lured children into his bedroom". They're not interested in the truth, the truth is not exciting enough. They just want to hate. If they were actually interested in what really happened, they would read the court documents. In these type of discussions, there's usually a fan on one side quoting court transcipts and a hater on the other side quoting tabloids, yet the fan is called delusional. :smilerolleyes:
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It's amazing to me how ignorant some people are. Who can possibly believe that the police discovered child porn in MJ's possession but didn't charge him with anything?

The people who believe MJ was a child molester always come up with the same easily refutable arguments. "MJ owned child porn". "MJ was only interested in boys". "MJ only allowed children to come to Neverland, he wanted to isolate them from their families". "MJ lured children into his bedroom". They're not interested in the truth, the truth is not exciting enough. They just want to hate. If they were actually interested in what really happened, they would read the court documents. In these type of discussions, there's usually a fan on one side quoting court transcipts and a hater on the other side quoting tabloids, yet the fan is called delusional. :smilerolleyes:

The people who think Michael's guilty always use the ''He got away with it cause he's a celebrity'' excuse
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The people who think Michael's guilty always use the ''He got away with it cause he's a celebrity'' excuse

Yes, or they compare his case to OJ's, which makes no sense at all.

The irony is that it's the other way around. MJ was treated much worse because he was a celebrity. You think it's standard practice to have 70 police officers raid someone's home based on a mere allegation? You think the FBI investigates 'normal' people for almost 20 years for no reason at all? You think if a family accused a 'normal' person of holding them hostage (while letting them go on spa retreats on his dime) and planning to kidnap them to Brazil in a hot air balloon, that family would be taken seriously? You think a DA would go out of his way and travel to other continents to find "victims" if a 'normal' person is accused of child abuse? To say that MJ received any kind of preferential treatment because he was a celebrity is laughable.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I find it very suspicious that wade stated he never forgot what MJ did to him and yet throughout all his adult life he imulated MJ and always refered to him in glowing and endearing Terms.. Read his memorial tribute in the MJ Opus book. Wade could have remained silent and not said anything but he didn't. up to 2012 Wade was singing MJ praises, why would he do that if he NEVER forgot. .. no one forced him to.say those things.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I find it very suspicious that wade stated he never forgot what MJ did to him and yet throughout all his adult life he imulated MJ and always refered to him in glowing and endearing Terms.. Read his memorial tribute in the MJ Opus book. Wade could have remained silent and not said anything but he didn't. up to 2012 Wade was singing MJ praises, why would he do that if he NEVER forgot. .. no one forced him to.say those things.

Apparently, it took his son to be born to realise that a grown man having sex with a 7-year-old is wrong. Except even that is not true because he was praising MJ as recent as last year.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't know WHAT was in those soda cans but it must have been a pretty powerful Kool-Aid that has long lasting effects.

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Before anyone freaks out: There is mental illness in my family and for some reason wild outrageous claims is something we discovered to be a part of it, unfortunately.
They start out and escalate to a point where one doesn't even know anymore what to say.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I find it very suspicious that wade stated he never forgot what MJ did to him and yet throughout all his adult life he imulated MJ and always refered to him in glowing and endearing Terms.. Read his memorial tribute in the MJ Opus book. Wade could have remained silent and not said anything but he didn't. up to 2012 Wade was singing MJ praises, why would he do that if he NEVER forgot. .. no one forced him to.say those things.

Yeah, so 'I never forgot' sounds like, 'it was so traumatic, I will never forget that', yet he failed to realize it was wrong until now.. He didn't realize anything wrong was going on because it was 'expressions of love' (as he said Michael put it) while at the same time threatening him with the fact they would both (??) go to jail if anyone ever knew.. so contradicting! Maybe to a 7 yr old it would make sense, but certainly not to a 22 yr old while under oath?! As if Michael would allow one of his 'victims' to be called as a witness in his case anyway.. That would have been seriously stupid. I wonder how he's gonna explain that one?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I would have understood that a 14 year old smitten and in love with Michael would have said, yeah, so what.
That's why statuary rape exists as a charge to protect teens from those who are expected to know better.
A 14 year in love might find nothing wrong with that relationship, it's the 'you and me against the world, we're a team.'

But when he says he never 'forgot' any moment, then it is expected from an adult to be able to identify sexual abuse, you often see things differently even as a 20 year old when you look bad.

He must have said there and listened to graphic details of alleged abuse - he wasn't 14 anymore and even having been abused (in theory) does not in any way absolve him from doing the right thing.

It does not make sense that 30 year old would not realize that sexual acts upon a 7 year are ABUSE - particularly if he 'remembers everything Michael did to him.' He says he remember it all - but didn't think it was abuse? I don't know, sexual acts are abuse. He repeated Lauer's words of "sexual acts" - so I'm assuming it wasn't "his aura felt sexually charged to me". Sexual act means sexual act.

Cognitive dissonance seems to be a huge problem for Wade. Goes right along after "I'm not after money" while filing a monetary claim.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Maybe people are starting to see now that Michael is gone that he was and is always being used for money. I also have a problem that he says it's not about the money yet he filed a creditor's claim and a civil lawsuit which are all about money. You think people wouldn't do these kinds of things for money but people do. It's scary and very sad.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Just got caught up with this thread and now I want to :puke: Having watched the Today interview, I don't know how anyone could not see he's a liar. Plus for someone claiming he was "abused" he doesn't seem too upset in this interview. Where are the tears? lol That shakiness in his voice was probably because he feels he's being caught in a lie, which indeed he is.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Marebear, thank you. I was going to say the same. How on earth a person files a claim to get money & says is not for money. I don't think he notice how idiotic is his statement. He's doing it for money & I want to add something else.

Yesterday I was reading his mom's testimony, she said Michael help her with money & bought her a car. Why is it that she felt she didn't have to repay it? Even if the person has money, the borrower has to pay back. It's obvious that many people took Michael for an AMT machine. He was kind to offer the money but then, you have to have some decency & say no, If I owe you the money, I pay you the money.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Just got caught up with this thread and now I want to :puke: Having watched the Today interview, I don't know how anyone could not see he's a liar. Plus for someone claiming he was "abused" he doesn't seem too upset in this interview. Where are the tears? lol That shakiness in his voice was probably because he feels he's being caught in a lie, which indeed he is.

The shakiness in his voice was all an act to make himself appear sympathetic
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It seems that the "body language expert" thinks he's telling the truth. :ermm:
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It seems that the "body language expert" thinks he's telling the truth. :ermm:

Yes, and the other body language expert claims the opposite...........
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Body language experts are not a reliable source of evidence
 
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