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This is gonna be one long drawn out ass process, I would'nt be surprised if this trial does'nt start until summer of next year!

And yet again, Michael will be potrayed as the bad guy here while Murray's behind gets kissed all the way to the bank for getting rid of Mike!
 
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I agree with you post....jeez this whole thing is so depressing. I wonder if Murray even realizes the full impact of what it is he has done. He killed another human being. By the looks of him today...I don't think he realizes who it was he killed...If he could only feel our pain for 1 minute.....that alone would kill HIM..:cry:
 
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its symbolic and nothing more. he has no paitents in cali so it doesnt really matter

thank you for clarifying. These things take a long time. They say this judge is tough and smart and fair. So let's keep positive about this.

And, once again, and another poster said the same: if the prosecutors had any inkling that Michael could have possibly killed himself they would have not taken this case. They checked this out thoroughly- that's why they took so long with the investigation.

Harvey Levin from TMZ is an idiot who is in the entertainment and gossip business. What he is doing is inciting the fan community and making sure his site is loaded with hits. And he seems to be doing a grand job.

Don't let this guy get on your nerves- don't go to his site- stop him!
 
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Murray's actions via official documents show that he did wrong (also his continuous changing story) where as Michael's actions showed he did no wrong but he accusers did.

But I can also see how we are being slight hypocrites.

It cant be helped in a way due to our passion to Michael.
 
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Murray's actions via official documents show that he did wrong (also his continuous changing story) where as Michael's actions showed he did no wrong but he accusers did.

But I can also see how we are being slight hypocrites.

It cant be helped in a way due to our passion to Michael.

I wonder who the hell would make a tape like that....Murray does not deserve the "innocent until proven guilty" label. He IS guilty damn it. Michael is dead and Murray killed him. See....he is guilty.
 
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This is gonna be one long drawn out ass process, I would'nt be surprised if this trial does'nt start until summer of next year!

And yet again, Michael will be potrayed as the bad guy here while Murray's behind gets kissed all the way to the bank for getting rid of Mike!

I know what you are saying, but let's stay positive here. Murray has been called Dr. Death by the media and I don't know that everybody is kissing his behind right now. Remember what Michael always said: lies run sprints, the truth runs marathons.

We have to stay strong and positive for Michael!
 
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I heard the fans pulled off having the plane with the banner fly over the court house today. Is there a picture of this posted anywhere?
 
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Hopefully these haven't already been posted:

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interesting info : Today, Pastor met with the prosecution and the defense in chambers for about 30 minutes before scheduling another hearing for June 14, on which date he's expected to decide on a date for the preliminary hearing.

so still june 14 is another hearing date but not the prelim date.
 
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^ interesting.... So, does he have to decide first if there is enough grounds for a trial and then they set the official prelim? Or did they set the prelim and this reporter is wrong? I have to look it up again how it works. Been a few years...
 
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I heard the fans pulled off having the plane with the banner fly over the court house today. Is there a picture of this posted anywhere?

The banner was there, flying over the whole area, it was great to see that. I was streaming from both ET online and TMZ, and they both showed it. Go MJ fans! L.O.V.E.
 
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I'm thinking the June 14th date will focus on his medical license and the other date will be to decide if they have enough evidence to go ahead with the trial. This seems fairly normal from what I recall with Princess Diana's inquest not only did it take a long time to even go through with the trial due to gathering evidence but the preliminary hearings were quite a few months apart. I think there was about a 6 month gap between the preliminary hearings till the actual trial.
 
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What happened? Have I missed something important?
 
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BBC are saying that June 14th is the prelim hearing but god knows what is happening. This will not even go to trial until at least 2011.
 
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BBC are saying that June 14th is the prelim hearing but god knows what is happening. This will not even go to trial until at least 2011.


And by that time, the general public will be like :

"Get over it! He died like 2 years ago! Who cares?"

:angry:

We can't let this go. We have to fight for our poor Michael.
 
what's the matter, nothing news in here?

New judge appointed for Michael Jackson's doctor trial

Tuesday, 6 April 2010

2009 Getty Images
LONDON - MARCH 05: Michael Jackson attends a press conference to announce plans for a summer residency of concerts at the O2 Arena, Grenwich on March 5, 2009 in London, England.



The involuntary manslaughter case against Michael Jackson's cardiologist has been assigned to a new judge during brief proceedings in Los Angeles. Dr Conrad Murray, his lawyers and prosecutors assembled before Supervising Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza, who quickly assigned the case to Judge Michael Pastor and sent them to his courtroom.
Issues awaiting the new judge include setting a date for a preliminary hearing and Murray's fight to keep his California medical licence.


The state attorney general, representing the state medical board, has moved to revoke Murray's licence pending trial.


The Thriller star died from acute intoxication with the hospital anaesthetic propofol and other sedatives.
Murray has pleaded not guilty.


Earlier, dozens of Jackson fans rallied outside the courthouse.


The fans, singing We Are The World, wore T-shirts emblazoned with Jackson's picture and the slogan Justice for Michael.


They also carried placards demanding stronger charges against Dr Murray over Jackson's death.
They said they remained devoted to Jackson's musical legacy and would not be satisfied unless Murray goes to prison.


If convicted, Murray could face a maximum of four years behind bars.

 
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He said there were about a dozen Jackson fans lining the hallway groaning and hissing in a really interesting fashion (heh) and he didn't see him make any eye contact.
are they hoping someone takes him out cause thats ridiculous interms of security

Also, Lisa Bloom (yes, I know) commented and she said it's confounding to her why since MJ's death the medical board hasn't acted more swiftly to try to suspend or revoke Murray's license. Why hasn't the board come in, asked for a hearing, bring in evidence and determine whether Dr. Murray is fit to continue seeing patients or not?
doh they have.. i guess she aint following the case
 
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So, does he have to decide first if there is enough grounds for a trial and then they set the official prelim
no the official prelim is the hearing that decides if theres enough evidence forit to go to trial. that will happen june 14th

interesting info : Today, Pastor met with the prosecution and the defense in chambers for about 30 minutes before scheduling another hearing for June 14, on which date he's expected to decide on a date for the preliminary hearing.

so still june 14 is another hearing date but not the prelim date.
source? doubt this is true.all the others state june is the prelim. june 14th is along way off as it is

although the below wording is strange interms of the use of the word setting. confused again now

PDATE 2:40 PM PT -- A preliminary setting was set for June 14 at 12:30 PM.
 
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no the official prelim is the hearing that decides if theres enough evidence forit to go to trial. that will happen june 14th

^ Thanks for that.... that's what I thought. Does the assigned judge, in this case, now Judge Pastor, need to review all the evidence before that prelim? If that is so, maybe it's why there is so much time between now and the prelim? I only wonder because when a friend of mine had a trial jury (for doing something massively stupid) it was less than four weeks between the court date in which the date for the prelim was set and that actual date. Maybe he wants extra time because it's complicated and a high profile case?
 
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probably the defense asked him to give them more time since they didn't receive all the docs from the prosecution yet. I read the defense was going to ask for more time yesterday.
 
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^ Oh yeah that's a good point too. I wish they could explain reasons behind stuff more... would make it much easier to understand what is going on.
 
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source? doubt this is true.all the others state june is the prelim. june 14th is along way off as it is

although the below wording is strange interms of the use of the word setting. confused again now

AP is the main source, I have seen other places reporting the same as well.

Jackson doctor's case assigned to LA trial judge
By LINDA DEUTSCH (AP) – 13 hours ago
LOS ANGELES — The involuntary manslaughter case against Michael Jackson's cardiologist was assigned to a trial judge Monday in a brief proceeding that drew fans and family members of the late pop star.

Dr. Conrad Murray, his attorneys and prosecutors assembled before Supervising Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza, who in moments assigned the case to Judge Michael Pastor and sent them to his courtroom.

Pastor scheduled a June 14 court date to take up remaining procedural issues including the setting of a date for a preliminary hearing and Murray's fight to keep his California medical license.

The state attorney general, representing the state medical board, has moved to revoke Murray's license pending trial.

Earlier, about 50 Jackson fans waved signs and chanted outside the courthouse.

The fans sang "We Are the World," wore T-shirts emblazoned with Jackson's picture and the slogan, "Justice 4 Michael," and carried placards demanding stronger charges against Murray.

Fans in a courthouse hallway called out "Hi Janet" as Jackson's sister Janet arrived. The late pop star's parents, Joe and Katherine, and brother Jermaine also attended.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter, which carries a maximum sentence of four years in prison.

Normally, such a procedural hearing would draw few spectators.
But with Jackson's death as the backdrop, crowds of fans and media were expected, and Jackson family members have committed to attending all court proceedings against Murray.

Sandi Gibbons, spokeswoman for the district attorney's office, said the Jackson family notified court officials that up to 15 courtroom seats would be needed.

"It's basically a housekeeping hearing, but it will be the housekeeping hearing heard around the world," said Loyola University law professor Laurie Levenson. "There is no detail too minute for the international media."

Murray's attorneys contend the license issue is critical to his ability to pay for his defense.

The doctor has a history of serious financial problems and his attorneys, Ed Chernoff and Joseph Low, said in a recent court filing that the effect of losing his license would be devastating to Murray.

"He is, without fear of overstatement, hanging on by a thread," the attorneys wrote. "His ability to pay for his own defense depends almost entirely on his ability to continue to treat patients."

Murray, 57, a cardiologist, has clinics in Las Vegas and Houston and also has a license to practice in California. Should his California license be lifted, his lawyers suggest there would be a "domino effect" with other states moving to do the same.

Already, Nevada authorities have filed a formal complaint against Murray saying he twice failed to mention delinquent child support payments on applications to renew his medical license. Miranda Sevcik, spokeswoman for Murray and Chernoff, says Murray's legal team hopes to resolve the complaint in a way that allows the doctor to keep his license.

As a condition of his $75,000 bail, Murray has been ordered not to administer any anesthetic.

Jackson was 50 and about to launch a series of comeback shows in London when he died last June after being rushed to a hospital from his Beverly Hills home. Murray, who signed on in May at $150,000 a month to keep Jackson healthy through the comeback tour, told police he had been treating him for insomnia.

The legendary pop star was found to have died from acute intoxication with the hospital anesthetic propofol and other sedatives as a contributing factor.
Chernoff has said that nothing Murray gave the singer should have killed him.
AP Entertainment Writer Anthony McCartney contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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Yeah, prelim setting sounds like they're gonna set the date then on June 14th.
 
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since day one the police did not give the case any attention ,,,that's why Murray and his people made sure to kill Michael in US and not in UK !!
 
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since day one the police did not give the case any attention ,,,that's why Murray and his people made sure to kill Michael in US and not in UK !!


We would have been on their ass from June 25th 2009 if he was killed in the UK! Hell, they would have been questioning people and shutting off areas for investigation hours after the announcement of his death. We take these things seriously.

I'm sorry but it looks like the American "Justice" System needs to be looked into.
 
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The DA suspects Murray for Involuntary Manslaughter (Homicide) as a result of practising medicine and (being innocent until proven guilty) potentially killed a client. For the best interest of the American publics safety, Murray's license should be suspended until he is proven to be a fit Dr. If another patient dies at the hands of Murray, who's head does that fall on? The Judge IMO

Exactly! Murray should be struck off NOW, he KILLED a patient, intentionally or unintentionally doesn't change that fact, what the hell else is there to discuss?!

interesting info : Today, Pastor met with the prosecution and the defense in chambers for about 30 minutes before scheduling another hearing for June 14, on which date he's expected to decide on a date for the preliminary hearing.

so still june 14 is another hearing date but not the prelim date.

well what was yesterday then?

BBC are saying that June 14th is the prelim hearing but god knows what is happening. This will not even go to trial until at least 2011.

and murray will probably still have his medical license :ermm:
 
Disturbing that the Guardian is using TMZ as a reliable resource.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/06/michael-jackson-doctor-licence

Judge allows Michael Jackson doctor to keep licence until June court date

Dr Conrad Murray leaves preliminary hearing on manslaughter charges with $75,000 bail and ban on giving anaesthetics



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Dr Conrad Murray (right) with his attorney J. Michael Flanagan during today's hearing at a Criminal Court in Los Angeles. Photograph: Pool/REUTERS



The doctor accused of killing Michael Jackson staved off suspension of his medical licence at a Los Angeles court hearing yesterday, as the singer's family sat stony-faced in the front row and his fans outside booed and hissed.


Dr Conrad Murray appeared for a preliminary hearing on manslaughter charges, which allege that he administered the fatal dose of a powerful anaesthetic, usually only used in operations, that killed Jackson.
Jackson's estranged parents, Katherine and Joe, and his siblings, Jermaine, Randy and Janet, were on hand as Murray's lawyers argued against a move by California's attorney general to suspend the cardiologist's medical licence. Murray claims that he is so financially hard up that if he cannot work he will not be able to pay for his defence, and that he is, "without fear of overstatement, hanging on by a thread".


The judge declined to revoke the doctor's licence until after another hearing in June, but left in place a condition of Murray's $75,000 bail that he not administer anaesthetic to patients.


Murray has clinics in Las Vegas and Houston as well as California but fell behind on child maintenance payments and faced other financial problems, reportedly because of a gambling habit.


The 57-year-old has pleaded not guilty to the manslaughter charges. He told the police that the 50-year-old star was a chronic insomniac who depended on the anaesthetic Propofol to sleep.


Celebrity news website TMZ, which broke the news of Jackson's death, reported that Murray's legal team intends to argue that Jackson administered the fatal dose of Propofol to himself. The doctor's lawyers responded to the report by saying that it is premature to discuss the defence strategy.


The doctor faces up to four years in prison if convicted.
Outside court, fans from as far away as France and Argentina sang We Are the World and waved signs demanding "Justice for M.J." Another said: "Conrad Murray makes us wanna scream."


Janet Jackson last week told Oprah Winfrey that the family knew her brother had a drug dependency problem. But asked if she blamed Conrad for Michael Jackson's death, she replied: "Yes, I do."
 
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rafflesvanexel

In the car on my way tpo the court house. Will keep you updated from there every 5 min or less. Stay tuned

Just drove by and the fans are here in full force. They are nice and organized. Justice for Michael

The world Media is also present. Again MJ is creating a mad house. And is good to see that MJ once again is making money for others

The fans are singing, "man in the mirror".

And screaming Sony is a murderer

Followed by AEG is a murderer. And Conrad is a murderer. Justice, justice justice

My guess is that there are about 100 fans. Nice crowed. However they the LAPD made sure that the media is upfront and the fans in the back

So once again NO justice. The media before the FANS

210 west Temple street. Down town LA. I would urge anyone to come by. In support of the King of Pop

Joe, Jermaine and Kathrine just arrived. And the fans went wild

OMG, they are so organized the fans. They even have a plane with a banner. Justice for Michael. Don't mess with MJ's fans

Sorru it reads " we demend Justice for Michael Jackson".

Randy and Janet Jackson just arrived. In support of there brother Michael Jackson "the King of Pop" RIP. We will be your voice from now on"

Murrey took the back entrance. That's what the sheriff department told me

The Fans are not happy, they gave Murrey special treatment again. This is America

Word has it that they are moving it to a bigger court room now.

Once again a somerthing I have never hurt of. They are moving in mid session. To an other court room.

They moved from the 10th floor to the 9th floor

They are in court room 107 Superior Court Judge Michael E. Pastor

There are around 40 fans with rosses and red bands saying we LOVE Michael. 8 LA county Sheriff's. And everything is Quite

Murrey walked true the hall way to the court and was confronted by 30 Michael Jackson fans. Screaming Murderer. Me went white.

He tried everything to not have to run into the fans, and here it happened. The 9th floor might be a lucky floor for MJ.

Don't be fooled, they haven't even started yet. They are waiting for the Judge to come out.

The Judge got to the banch. It's finally starting

Court is in session.

The media was reporting that it is over, don't believe it. They just started.

On of the bodugaurds just walked out of the court room. Took the elevator down. And here they come

All doors open. Jermaine in first elevator

Every one to the rest room. The family is ready to leave.

June 14th the new court date. The Judge didn't want to hear anything today.

Just cought Randy and Janet takjing the side door out. Was able to take a picture. Will be later on Facebook.com/rafflesvanexel

Eddie Griffin running behind TMZ. Ready to knock them out and Joe Jackson putting up his fist like ALI" the greatest". LMAO

Eddie Griffin no fan of TMZ. And doesn't hide it.

Austin

On my way to the studio the only thing that can make me feel better after an emotional draining day.

Gen

Whaaat its really postponed til june?!!! C'mon :(
 
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