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III Regarding this post, all credit due to bboy87 from prince.org:

12th September 1987


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The Bad album enters straight in at no. 1 on the UK album chart.

It will stay on the UK album chart for 125 weeks and subsequently return on and off over the next two decades.


Bad sells over 350,000 copies in the UK in the first 5 days of release out selling the second highest album by a ratio of 10-1.

Bad’s sales are higher than the rest of the Top 40 put together.

40,000 copies are sold on CD where the bonus track Leave Me Alone is acknowledged as a popular factor.


Michael’s first ever-solo tour begins in Japan at the Korakuen Stadium, Yokohama. Only I Just Can’t Stop Loving You and Bad make the play list, as Michael is still rehearing the new songs.


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19th September 1987

I Just Can’t Stop Loving You tops the American Hot 100 & R&B Billboard singles chart staying there for 1 week on both.

I Just Can’t Stop Loving You will spend 14 weeks on the American Hot 100 Billboard singles chart

While on the R&B chart it will stay for 11 weeks.

That same week, Michael’s follow up single Bad, the title track from his new album enters the American Hot 10 Billboard Singles chart at no. 40.


21st September 1987

The title track from Bad is released in the UK.



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26th September 1987

Michael Jackson Bad album tops both the Billboard Hot 100 and R&B album charts holding for 1 week on each.

Just like his previous two Epic solo albums the first single release goes to No. 1 on the R&B chart.

Bad enters the UK Singles chart at no.5.

A Bad Special Cassette Gift Pack is released with a Combined Pen & Highlighter, 1989 Calendar and Note Pad.




BAD UNRELEASED MATERIAL
(INCLUDING THOSE NOW ISSUED)

Quincy Jones as been quoted as saying that Michael had around 66 songs prepared for Bad in some sort of shape or form. This was then whittled down to about 33 songs. Here we try and pierce together what the remainder of those songs may have been and include others that have now been issued.





UNRELEASED BAD SONG:

Al Capone
Buffalo Bill (Originally intended for The Jacksons Victory Album)
Bumper Snippet – 2 versions)
:D:D :D :D
Chicago 1945 (re-done as Smooth Criminal)
Crack Kills (With Run DMC)
Groove Of Midnight
Hot Fever – (Became Way You Make Me Feel)
Je Ne Veux Pas La Fin De Nous – (French version of I Just Can’t Stop Loving You)
Mystery
Price Of Fame, The
Pyramid Song (Became Liberian Girl)
Tom Boy
What You Do To Me




Tracks from Bad issued on other compilations.

Cheater
Fly Away
Streetwalker
Scared Of The Moon
Someone Put Your Hand Out

We Are Here To Change The World

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1st March 1988

Michael attends a Pepsi press conference where they will preview a new set of innovative commercials that will pierce together as one making a story. The full commercial will last 4 and a half minutes but will also be shown individual titled: The Magic Begins, The Chase, The Chopper, The Musuem and the Finale.


Lyrics for this commercial, based on his Bad hit, where written in 1986 and registered in March 1987.

Michael disappointed the waiting pres by only uttering a 15 word speech.



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Demo of the song "Crack Kills" intended for the duet with Michael Jackson:

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IV Regarding this post, all credit due to bboy87 from prince.org:

I

I JUST CAN'T STOP LOVING YOU


written by Michael Jackson

Recorded in 1987 with Quincy Jones protege Siedah Garrett after Whitney Houston and Barbra Streisand turned the song down. Siedah didn't even know Quincy wanted her to do the duet until she came to the
actual recording session.

The spoken intro was recorded while Michael was laying in the bed. It was later edited from later pressings
from the album and compilations.

The lead single from Bad. Released in June 1987, went to #1 on the Hot 100 and the R&B charts, making it the 3rd
best selling single of 1987. It also peaked at #1 in the UK for 2 weeks.

Many fans believe that "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" was the song that replaced "Fly Away"

Performed live with Sheryl Crow on the 1987-89 Bad World Tour and the 1992-93 Dangerous World Tour.

Hot 100-#1
R&B-#1
Sales-#1
Airplay-#2
UK-#1
Australia-#10
Austria-#5
Belgium-#1
Canada-#2
Denmark-#1
Finland-#3
France-#6
Germany-#2
Holland-#1
Ireland-#1
Italy-#2
Japan-#32
New Zealand-#3
Norway-#1
South Africa-#7
Spain-#5
Sweden-#4
Switzerland-#2
Zimbabwe-#2

II

BAD

written by Michael Jackson

the title track of the album

Originally intended as a duet with Prince
"Prince was excited to have been asked" said Susan Rogers in Prince Bio "DMSR", "But he said to me,
'I just don't do that stuff' and I think he felt Michael was going to make himself look better.
The idea for the video was to have the two megastars take turns singing and dancing, in order to determine who was
the "baddest".

The entire idea fell through so Michael recorded it alone. Before the song was complete
with lyrics, The working track was titled "Pee", then became "Who's Bad", then "BAD"

The short film was loosely based on the story of Edmund Perry, a young black man shot to death when
he returned home to Harlem New York from a private college.
The short film was shot in late 1986(months before the album was completed) was directed by legendary
director Martin Scorsese and co-starred a young and then unknown Wesley Snipes.
It was shot in Harlem New York and was the first film shot for the BAD project.
It premiered in August 31, 1987 during the
CBS TV special "The Magic Returns".

The second single from the Bad album. Peaked at #1 on the Hot 100 for 7 weeks, #1 on the R&B charts
for 3 weeks. Charted at #3 in the UK.

Performed on the 1987-89 Bad World Tour, and on some of the first dates on the 1992-93 Dangerous Tour

Hot 100-#1
R&B-#1
Single Sales-#1
Single Airplay-#1
Dance Club Play-#1
Dance Club Sales-#1
Canada-#1
UK-#3
Australia-#4
Austria-#9
Belgium-#1
Denmark-#1
Finland-#7
France-#3
Germany-#4
Holland-#1
Ireland-#1
Japan-#41
New Zealand-#2
Norway-#2
South Africa-#5
Spain-#1
Sweden-#4
Switzerland-#3
Zimbabwe-#1

The single sold 1,628,000 copies


III

THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL

written by Michael Jackson

Inspired when his mother, Katherine, asked Michael to make a song with a "shuffling kind of rhythm"

One of the first songs written for the Bad album in 1985, was originally titled "Hot Fever"

The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.


Performed at the 1988 Grammy Awards, the 1988-89 legs of the Bad World Tour, and occasionally
during the 1992-93 Dangerous World Tour and 1996-97 HIStory World Tour.

Peaked at #1 on the Hot 100 and R&B charts and #3 in the UK

The third single from the album, released while Michael was on tour in either Japan or Australia

Hot 100-#1
R&B-#1
Single Sales-#3
Singles Airplay-#2
Canada-#3
UK-#3
Australia-#5
Austria-#15
Belgium-#2
Denmark-#6
Finland-#20
France-#15
Germany-#12
Holland-#6
Ireland-#1
Italy-#4
Japan-#92
New Zealand-#2
South Africa-#16
Spain-#2(#1 in 2006)
Switzerland-#8
Zimbabwe-?

IV

MAN IN THE MIRROR


written by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett

One of Michael's most memorable singles

Written in late 1986 when Quincy and Michael felt the album needed an anthem with a positve message.
At the time, Quincy's publishing company so one Thursday, he had some of the writers come over to his house to discuss
the concept. That following Sunday, Siedah Garrett, who worked with Ballard, stopped by his house with the song.
The song was written in 2 hours

The first short film, which didn't feature Michael, blended clips of current clips of the 1980s along
with clips of historic figures
The second version, featured on the 1988 movie "Moonwalker". blends clips of various performances on the Bad Tour

Performed on the 1988 Grammy Awards with the Andrae Crouch choir. Also performed on the 1988-89 legs
of the Bad World Tour
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Hot 100-#1
R&B-#1
Single Sales-#1
Single Airplay-#1
Canada-#6
UK-#21
Australia-#39
Austria-#10
Belgium-#11
Denmark-#16
Finland-?
France-#18
Germany-#23
Holland-#13
Ireland-#3
Italy-#16
Japan-#93
New Zealand-#4
South Africa-?
Spain-#11
Switzerland-#?

V

DIRTY DIANA

written by Michael Jackson

somewhat the hard rock version of 1982's "Billie Jean", it was cited as Michael's favorite song on the album.

Guitarist Steve Stevens, Billy Idol's lead guitarist, made a special appearance on the song and in the 1988 video

The fifth single and fifth to hit #1 on the Hot 100, giving the album a record 5 #1 singles, a record
that has yet to be broken.
also charted at #5 on the R&B charts and #4 in the UK.

It was Michael's first live video. Filmed in Long Beach California by Joe Pytka and premiered on April 14, 1988, while
Michael was performing in Atlanta Georgia at the Omni during the USA leg of the Bad Tour.

Various performances of the song were aired on TV from the tour in Kansas City, New York City, and Rome
Quincy Jones likened the song to an uptempo version of Roberta Flack's Killing Me Softly and liked
the theatrics in the song.
In 2003, Jones also said it was "one of those songs you just can't mess with because you can feel
it's coming from a deep place in his life."


Ben Liebrand's remix of the song includes samples of the 1981 live version of Rock With You, Beat It
and State of Shock.

Hot 100-#1
R&B-#5
Single Sales-#3
Single Airplay-#1
Canada-#15
UK-#4
Australia-#27
Austria-#7
Belgium-#1
Denmark-#2
Finland-#16
France-#7
Germany-#3
Holland-#2
Ireland-#3
Italy-18
Japan-?
New Zealand-#5
South Africa-?
Spain-#16/#1 in 2006
Switzerland-#5



VI

ANOTHER PART OF ME

written by Michael Jackson in 1985

Originally featured in the 1986 Disney short film "Captain EO", which premiered at Epcot Center in
Orlando Florida on September 12, 1986 and was directed by Francis Ford Coppola and produced by George
Lucas, costing $30 million

Included on the Bad album in 1987 instead of Streetwalker. Quincy Jones preferred Another Part of Me whereas Michael favored
the latter which had been originally written for a unreleased Broadway play titled "Street Dandy"
The deciding factor was Frank Dileo dancing to APOM.


The sixth single from the album released in the summer of 1988. Peaked at #11 on the Hot 100 but went
to #1 on the R&B charts, making it the sixth Pop/R&B #1 single from the album. Peaked at #15 in the UK

The live video filmed during Michael's European leg of the Bad World Tour in either Paris France or London England.
Directed by Patrick T. Kelly, it premiered during the 30 minute MTV special "Another Part Of Me", a
follow up to their "From Motown To Your Town" special that premiered earlier that year.

Various performances in Kansas City, Rome, and Tokyo and other areas have been aired on television.
Performed on the second and third leg of the 1987-89 BAD World Tour.

Hot 100-#11
R&B-#1
Single Sales-#10
Single Airplay-#8
Canada-#46
UK-#15
Australia-#49
Austria-#20
Belgium-#3
Denmark-#10
Finland-#2
France-#21
Germany-#10
Holland-#8
Ireland-#5
Italy-?
Japan-?
New Zealand-#14
South Africa-?
Spain-#31
Switzerland-#5
Zimbabwe-?


VII

SMOOTH CRIMINAL

written by Michael Jackson

Eventually evolved from an unreleased song, "Chicago 1945"
The opening heartbeat was Michael's and was recorded by Dr. Eric Chevland and digitally processed
in a synclavier.


Featured in Michael's 1988 film "Moonwalker", originally titled "Chiago Nights", costing $27 million
to make.

The 40 minute short film was originally concieved as a western and evolved to the Chicago nightclub scene

The film version includes extra lyrics and clocks in at around 8 minutes.

Co-starred with Joe Pesci and Sean Lennon.

The seventh single lifted from the album. Charted at #7 on the Hot 100, #2 on the R&B charts, and #8 in
the UK, where it gave Michael a record 7 Top 30 hits from one album. It was the sixth top 10 single
from the album in the US.

Performed during the 1988-89 legs of the Bad World Tour, 1992-93 Dangerous Tour, and 1996-97 HIStory
Tour.



Hot 100-#7
R&B-#2
Single Sales-#9
Airplay-#5
Dance Play-#10
Dance Sales-#10
UK-#8
Australia-#31
Austria-#17
Belgium-#1
Canada-#41
Denmark-#1
Finland-#1
France-#6
Germany-#9
Holland-#1
Hungary-?
Ireland-#4
Italy-#10
Japan-?
New Zealand-#29
Norway-?
South Africa-?
Spain-#1
Sweden-?
Switzerland-#5
Zimbabwe-?
Greece-#46


VIII

LEAVE ME ALONE

written by Michael Jackson

Originally included as a the bonus track on the CD release of Bad in August 1987
Released as the eighth single from the album, charting at #2 in the UK, not released in the U.S

Shot in mid 1987 along with "The Way You Make Me Feel", "Smooth Criminal", "BAD", and "Speed Demon",
the animated short film was directed by Jim Blashfield and Paul Diener, was first released as part
of Michael's 1988 film, "Moonwalker."
The video was a sarcastic look at the stories written about Michael in the tabloids such as his bidding
on the bones of the Elephant Man and marriage proposal and personal shrine to longtime friend Elizabeth Taylor.

"I worked hard on the song, sticking vocals on top of each other like layers of clouds," said Michael "I'm sending a
simple message here: Leave me alone! The song is about a relationship between a guy and a girl, but what I'm really saying
to people who are bothering me is leave me alone."


won the 1990 Grammy award for Best Music Video-Short Form

UK-#2, #15 in 2006
Australia-#37
Austria-#20
Belgium-#3
Denmark-#6
Finland-#5
France-#17
Germany-#16
Holland-#5
Ireland-#1
Italy-#11
Japan-?
New Zealand-#9
Norway-#6
South Africa-?
Spain-#5, #1 in 2006
Sweden-#19
Switzerland-#10


IX

LIBERIAN GIRL


Liberian Girl

written by Michael Jackson

Originally titled, "Pyramid Girl", was intended for the Victory album in 1984. Michael briefly mentioned it in the mock
documentary that he did of himself in 1984 titled "Michael Jackson Unauthorized".
It was later re-recorded, retitled, and included on the BAD album


The spoken intro in Swahili was done by Letta Mbulla

The video, released in 1989, was directed by Jim Yukich, included guest appearances by Brigitte Nielsen, Paula Abdul(former girlfriend of Michael's brother Jackie, and former choreographer to Michael's sister Janet), Carl Weathers, Whoopi Goldberg,Quincy Jones, Jasmine Guy(who had been rumored to be dating Michael), Jackie Collins, Olivia Newton John, John Travolta, Weird Al Yankovic, Don King, Danny Glover, and Malcom Jamal Warner. The clip was dedicated to Elizabeth Taylor.

The 9th single from the album. Peaked at #13 in the UK, making a new record of 9 top 30 singles from one album.

An acetate from 1989 recently surfaced that includes an unreleased instrumental version


X

Speed Demon


written by Michael Jackson

allegedly after he recieved a speeding ticket, the song was recorded in late 1986/early 1987.

The short film that mixed with live action footage and claymation was filmed in mid 1988 and included on Michael's 1988 film, "Moonwalker"

Chosen for a single release before Leave Me Alone was eventually chosen in 1989,
Although, promo copies with a picture sleeve and an edited mix was issued in various countries

Run DMC are also said to have done a rap for the song Speed Demon that wasn't used.
 
Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - Official Discussion Thread

Just thought I'd share this...A friend of mine, who lives in Toronto, walks by a major construction site every day on her way to work, and this is what she found :D

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^^Alanna thank you. It even more wonderful, magical, glorious when you see love for Michael in the most unexpected places!!!
 
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"1) April 1987

A song Michael passed over for his Bad Album was La Isla Bonita by Patrick Leonard who worked with Michael on the Victory Tour. Leonard composed the song with Michael in my mind but it ended up being recorded by Madonna who wrote the lyrics to the song. The song went to No. 1 on the UK charts on 25 April 1987 for 2 weeks. La Isla Bonita peaked at no. 4 on the US Billboard singles chart. "

Wait, Michael was one of the composers of La Isla Bonita??
 
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^^I think he meant he composed the song with Michael in his mind. As in, he wrote it for him, but Michael turned it down and Madonna eventually recorded it. That's what I got from that.
 
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"1) April 1987

A song Michael passed over for his Bad Album was La Isla Bonita by Patrick Leonard who worked with Michael on the Victory Tour. Leonard composed the song with Michael in my mind but it ended up being recorded by Madonna who wrote the lyrics to the song. The song went to No. 1 on the UK charts on 25 April 1987 for 2 weeks. La Isla Bonita peaked at no. 4 on the US Billboard singles chart. "

Wait, Michael was one of the composers of La Isla Bonita??

No! It was proposed to MJ, but he turned it down.
 
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Of course! Bleh, don't know why I did not understand that...
 
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Liberian Girl

An acetate from 1989 recently surfaced that includes an unreleased instrumental version

????

Does anyone have a link to that? I don't think I've heard that version.
 
Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - Official Discussion Thread

Liberian Girl

An acetate from 1989 recently surfaced that includes an unreleased instrumental version

????

Does anyone have a link to that? I don't think I've heard that version.
Not leaked.
 
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^^

Ok. Shame. How did it surface then?
 
Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - Official Discussion Thread

Yeah, if they plan on releasing someting in Romania, which is rather a small and poor country, they will release the product for sure in bigger countries like France, Germany, etc.

What about Sweden? ^^
 
Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - Official Discussion Thread

BAD World Tour 1988 DVD+Blu-Ray needs to be released.
 
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We want both L.A. and Wembley to be released!!!

One concert isn't enough!! - BAD Tour was like different shows in 87, 88 and 89 - so 3 different concerts should be released!
 
Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - Official Discussion Thread

tomorrow there's a twitter event. Fans will try to trend "HURRY UP BAD 25"

If you are on twitter add that to your every tweet
 
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NO!

BAD World Tour 1988 BLU-RAY needs to be released!!!

Hey come on, DVD too, not a lot of us have Blu-Ray players.
 
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That is amazing quality! and some camera angles from that video were from Wembley so it is very possible we are getting this on Blu Ray, i just hope they dont crop the video to become widescreen, i honestly prefer the original 4:3 aspect ratio recorded by the cameras not only because cropping blurs the video a bit, but we wont get to see every detail that actually happened there!
 
Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - Official Discussion Thread

tomorrow there's a twitter event. Fans will try to trend "HURRY UP BAD 25"

If you are on twitter add that to your every tweet

Nice I dea .. Will do :)
Lets all show the Estate and the World how much we want and Love BAD 25 and give MJ some props on Twitter at the same time :)

" HURRY UP BAD 25 "
 
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I just hope they don't ruin the BAD25 project by involving some current singers to mix and sing MJ's songs from BAD as it was done for Thriller25.

I can understand MJ's choice when he was alive to re-launch the hype with other artists such as Will I am and Akon on Thriller25, before dropping his own bomb, but now as MJ is dead we don't need anyone else's voice than Mike's and the artists who originally performed and collaborated back in 1986 and 1987.

It's really a shame though that we didn't get Victory Tour video with Thriller25.

For BAD25 it would be a good idea to include a special blu-ray edition with Victory tour + pepsi commercials and Bad tour + pepsi commercials.


p.s. Quincy Jones said that MJ had 66 songs ready for the BAD album. Those 66 songs were ready in one shape or another. Probably not completely recorded. Nevertheless I hope they include those 66 projects on BAD25 in the state they were back then, be it lyricks, some demos, melodies, hummings, whatever. I just hope they put the whole thing on BAD25 in order to get an idea how BAD was conceived and born. What difficult choices they had and what kind of compromises they were facing.

For example BAD video and song was initially supposed to be sung in duet with Prince.

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p.p.s. Now a crazy idea. Just to quote what MJ said, 'when the whole world says "no", you say "yes" '
It would be great if actually they release a bonus CD with initial project and call Quincy Jones and Prince into the studio and if they finally recorded that duet for the song BAD!
 
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Why buying yet another BAD album with the same tracklisting when we could get this new/old alternative version of tracklisting?

BAD25

CD1

1. Bad feat. Prince*
2. The Way You Make Me Feel Edited Video Mix
3. Speed Demon feat. Run DMC
4. Pyramid Girl**
5. Just Good Friends feat. Stevie Wonder
6. Get It feat. Stevie Wonder
7. Streetwalker
8. Another Part Of Me (Captain EO version)
9. We Are Here To Change The World

CD2

1. Man In The Mirror
2. I Just Can't Stop Loving You feat. Barbara Streisand***
3. Fly Away
4. Dirty Diana (video version)
5. Smooth Criminal (Edited Moonwalker version with extra lyrics)
6. Leave Me Alone (with extra fade out vocals)
7. Come Together (Moonwalker version)
8. Cheater
9. Bad Beats (teaser)
10. The Moon Is Walking (tribute song performed by Ladysmith Black Mambazo)


*(hoping that Prince accepts recording the vocals for it)
**(recorded with existing alternative instrumental)
***(as initially rumoured in 1986 and hoping she accepts to record the new vocals)

CD 3-4-5:
66 outtakes recorded in their initial form including official remixes and alternative versions

Blu Ray:

-Victory Tour
-Bad Tour
-Pepsi commercials and all MJ's appearances on TV shows such as:

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BAD World Tour needs to be released.
 
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BAD World Tour needs to be released.

I think that they will release one version of BAD tour for all fans, and 256458745 versions for you, including the first leg, the second leg, the third leg, the arms, the head, the body, and a biology course on a special bonus blu-ray. :D
 
That is amazing quality! and some camera angles from that video were from Wembley so it is very possible we are getting this on Blu Ray, i just hope they dont crop the video to become widescreen, i honestly prefer the original 4:3 aspect ratio recorded by the cameras not only because cropping blurs the video a bit, but we wont get to see every detail that actually happened there!

Warner didn't used the original 35mm film master for the bluray release. That's why they cropped it.

The original 'moonwalker' film reels were found not so long ago. That would be at its original aspect ratio.
 
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