could michael be out there somewhere??

mysterygirl7 · Jun 10, 2011

This is it, it's a weird name for a Tour... Hmm

There was no album, so ofcourse someone had to come up with a name...

Topflux · Jun 10, 2011

mysterygirl7 said:
This is it, it's a weird name for a Tour... Hmm

There was no album, so ofcourse someone had to come up with a name...

I think 'This is it' is even weirder because of that: no album. Michael never toured like that without an album. There wasn't even announcement about an album. An in overall all about 'This is it' came somehow 'suddenly'.. Like something was forcing him to start planing 'something'.

Topflux · Jun 10, 2011

8701girl said:
The reason why i doubt it cuz i know michael would never ever do that to his family, children, friend & fans as he would know it would make him look bad if he did so. Do u really think michael would do that to his loved ones & hurt them like that, i dont think so.

If it's the best choice, then yes. I could 'give' my life for something better and many others too. It's not about betraying your family or something like that then.

8701girl · Jun 10, 2011

Topflux said:
If it's the best choice, then yes. I could 'give' my life for something better and many others too. It's not about betraying your family or something like that then.

Rightttttt.............................

pg13 · Jun 10, 2011

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Karen, Michael L. Bush, the Hiltons, Liz Taylor, Mac, all the family including of course PPB and Katherine (if this is true then she really deserves an Oscar for her interview in Ophra), Tatiana, everybody who went to the funeral, including all the dancer of TII who were the ushers of the funeral and the forensic team of California State and of course LA PD… right?
All this ppl are in this hoax…. Really??? :mello:

Lorraine · Jun 10, 2011

We are alway's going to get this when a HUGE superstar dies of a young age... It happened with Elvis and others and now Michael.
Persoanlly I think it is ridiculous, but that is JMO.

I too think it is highly disrespectful.

This is going to go on for another possibly 40 years until Michael would have been in his 90's...
Unless people will still believe he is alive out there somewhere at the oge of 100 :bugeyed

KingMikeJ · Jun 10, 2011

Lorraine said:
We are alway's going to get this when a HUGE superstar dies of a young age... It happened with Elvis and others and now Michael.
Persoanlly I think it is ridiculous, but that is JMO.

I too think it is highly disrespectful.

This is going to go on for another possibly 40 years until Michael would have been in his 90's...
Unless people will still believe he is alive out there somewhere at the oge of 100 :bugeyed

The really crazy hoax beLIEvers believe that Michael will live forever. But for most, in about 50 years this will all be over and Michael's legacy can continue without these rumours.

Lorraine · Jun 10, 2011

KingMikeJ said:
The really crazy hoax beLIEvers believe that Michael will live forever. But for most, in about 50 years this will all be over and Michael's legacy can continue without these rumours.

I wish to live to see it.. I'll possibly be gone in another 50 years, I'll be 87 :mello:

Lucilla · Jun 10, 2011

pg13;3404780 said:
So... ok according with the hoax theory all the ppl that saw him dead are lying?
Karen, Michael L. Bush, the Hiltons, Liz Taylor, Mac, all the family including of course PPB and Katherine (if this is true then she really deserves an Oscar for her interview in Ophra), Tatiana, everybody who went to the funeral, including all the dancer of TII who were the ushers of the funeral and the forensic team of California State and of course LA PD… right?
All this ppl are in this hoax…. Really??? :mello:

No, the believers say just a few know and the rest "were fooled" like us, hehe.

But it's part of the myth, MJ was and is.

Even if he had been shot in the middle of a concert and died in front of all of us with cameras recording the whole thing, people would still have come out with another death-hoax theory. I think it's part of the myth MJ was and is.

Topflux · Jun 12, 2011

pg13;3404780 said:
 So... ok according with the hoax theory all the ppl that saw him dead are lying?
Karen, Michael L. Bush, the Hiltons, Liz Taylor, Mac, all the family including of course PPB and Katherine (if this is true then she really deserves an Oscar for her interview in Ophra), Tatiana, everybody who went to the funeral, including all the dancer of TII who were the ushers of the funeral and the forensic team of California State and of course LA PD… right?
All this ppl are in this hoax…. Really??? :mello:

When these people saw him dead?

Topflux · Jun 12, 2011

lucilla said:
No, the believers say just a few know and the rest "were fooled" like us, hehe.

But it's part of the myth, MJ was and is.

Even if he had been shot in the middle of a concert and died in front of all of us with cameras recording the whole thing, people would still have come out with another death-hoax theory. I think it's part of the myth MJ was and is.

But, you know, this kind of 'fooling' really happens. There are lots of staged deaths by officials because of different reasons.

jrsfan · Jun 12, 2011

Topflux said:
When these people saw him dead?

Kathy Hilton said she saw him at the hospital in her recent interview on CNN, Dileo saw him, LaToya, PPB & KJ at the hospital. KF & Bush at the morgue. I do not think Liz Taylor, Mac or Tatiana ever saw his body.

pg13 · Jun 12, 2011

Topflux said:
When these people saw him dead?

jrsfan said:
Kathy Hilton said she saw him at the hospital in her recent interview on CNN, Dileo saw him, LaToya, PPB & KJ at the hospital. KF & Bush at the morgue. I do not think Liz Taylor, Mac or Tatiana ever saw his body.

Yes actually KF and Bush dress him and prep him for the funeral. And we all know they worked with MIke for years, so they most be in the hoax cause there is no way no one can fooled them. RIght?:smilerolleyes:

If the rest saw him I am not sure of course, but if K. Hilton got to saw him and touch him, I dont see why the rest of guess couldnt do that too. I am just guessing of course.

lucilla said:
No, the believers say just a few know and the rest "were fooled" like us, hehe.

But it's part of the myth, MJ was and is.

Even if he had been shot in the middle of a concert and died in front of all of us with cameras recording the whole thing, people would still have come out with another death-hoax theory. I think it's part of the myth MJ was and is.

True :scratch:I guess this was to be expected being one of the most famous ppl on earth. I just hope that ppl who believe this are not hurting them selves believing this.

Topflux · Jun 12, 2011

jrsfan said:
Kathy Hilton said she saw him at the hospital in her recent interview on CNN, Dileo saw him, LaToya, PPB & KJ at the hospital. KF & Bush at the morgue. I do not think Liz Taylor, Mac or Tatiana ever saw his body.

I highly doubt Kathy Hilton has seen Michael dead, at least really.

pg13 · Jun 13, 2011

Topflux said:
I highly doubt Kathy Hilton has seen Michael dead, at least really.

Why would she lie? And if she is laying it most be cause she is in the hoax right? What other explanation could it have? Just to lie? Just because? Because Paris needs the extra press and the attention of Michael's fans? Dont think so....

Topflux · Jun 13, 2011

pg13 said:
Why would she lie? And if she is laying it most be cause she is in the hoax right? What other explanation could it have? Just to lie? Just because? Because Paris needs the extra press and the attention of Michael's fans? Dont think so....

Yes, the only reason would be lying imo. Not definitely for Paris or Nicky, but being jealous about Nichole being Michael's and Q's grand-daughter, or, to make Michael's 'death' more believable. There's just no point why she would have seen Michael dead.
At least in the past PH and NR had some issues. For example PH said that Paris Jackson is named 'after her'. That's ridiculous. They have the same first name, but it doesn't mean any relations. It'd be the same if Prince Jackson would've been named after Prince Rogers Nelson.

Billy gene · Jun 21, 2011

8701girl said:
:clap: I agree with everything u said here. Come on guys do u all honsetly belive michael would do such a thing!!?? he was a great father and there is no way he would do that to his kids- NEVER!

Not only that why the heck would forest lawn have a tomb there under michael's name if there was no corpse in there...it just doesnt make any sense at all

I can't believe people think this way Shamone girls and boy's we all know that Mike was full of Pranks? BUT....
Maybe he did all himself this Hoax and weird things around his death to make sure that people let him live forever?(like Elvis!!)That could ex plane the Hoax it think

You can plan things like this before you die you know?
And it would bring in heaps of money

for the family...

Lets not forget that Michael was Very smart!!
This what is said here sounds to me the same as the people that NOT Believed Michael to be innocent!!?
YES there you have it....HOW would You know he? (because it is in your Heart?)
We really don't know anything we only DREAM and HOPE i suppose that he is out there?
We only look at all the strange things that have happened..around his death Great detective work i Believe!
It does not throw me of to think that he is not dead at all...but it just gives me a little spark of hope...and that helps me and others get over the grief...and there are some people around that need this to help them get back to there life...Well....
If it happens to be the Greatest show on Earth... they are all into it the kids family and close friends....but it would be a hard one to pull off that is for sure...
it would make a Good Movie!

And...
why not? If your life is in danger?
It happened before with lots of people that they had to get a new life....
but too come back that is another story!...
Please don't get upset if people believe otherwise?
Let us have that little spark of Hope and Dreams we don't mean any harm....we know in the back of
our heads that it is just a Dream and sometimes dreams do come true so.....
Love to all

Billy gene · Jun 21, 2011

8701girl said:
:clap: I agree with everything u said he

looks like she agrees? you can do things like this.....
that it is written does not mean it is the truth at all he
Love to all

Ashtanga · Jun 21, 2011

Billy gene said:
Lets not forget that Michael was Very smart!!

Absolutely! This is a fact. So I never underestimated the intelligence of man. :fear:

PaceMioDolceCuore · Jun 21, 2011

Billy gene said:
...
This what is said here sounds to me the same as the people that NOT Believed Michael to be innocent!!
YES there you have it....HOW would You know he? (because it is in your Heart?)
We really don't know anything we only DREAM and HOPE i suppose?
...

Sorry, that makes my stomach get upset. You're pretty right to assume to our hearts DO know that he is innocent. Secondly, court transcripts and evidence are not 'hopes and dreams.'

To even mix and match the accusations with the idea that he somehow 'faked' his death is absurd. It's quite an insult to compare this, sorry. The man went through absolute HELL and supposed fans dare to question those that find this 'hoax death idea' beyond tasteless- comparing them to those that question his innocence??? Honestly, is Michael Jackson's suffering a joke to people, so that they need to 'use' it to justify a 'hoax'? Wow.

*applies the restraints*

Billy gene · Jun 21, 2011

:timer:

Billy gene · Jun 21, 2011

Pace,MioDolceCuore
Sorry, that makes my stomach get upset. You're pretty right to assume to our hearts DO know that he is innocent. Secondly, court transcripts and evidence are not 'hopes and dreams.'

To even mix and match the accusations with the idea that he somehow 'faked' his death is absurd. It's quite an insult to compare this, sorry. The man went through absolute HELL and supposed fans dare to question those that find this 'hoax death idea' beyond tasteless- comparing them to those that question his innocence??? Honestly, is Michael Jackson's suffering a joke to people, so that they need to 'use' it to justify a 'hoax'? Wow.

RE:

Talking about before and after!!
people still do not believe...(I Do)
Innocent ones have been in jail for over 20+ years...
Murderers have been walking free they say!
Do you know how many people faked their Death?...And they all went through Hell to make them do it..
Nothing is impossible in this world.....................

h34r:
For me it does not make any difference
If you are black or white
believe or not
everybody has a right to his/her own opinion if you don't want to believe in it or don't wish for any Hope then it does not bother me?
I will not Attack anyone for that!
Why does it bother you so much if other people think different?
it is a question in this Thread we are answering what we think........?
LOVE Always
:angel:

Lucilla · Jun 22, 2011

Billy gene said:
Lets not forget that Michael was Very smart!!
This what is said here sounds to me the same as the people that NOT Believed Michael to be innocent!!?
YES there you have it....HOW would You know he? (because it is in your Heart?)

I respect people's beliefs about the hoax conspiracy, I don't believe it myself but please don't say it's the same about believing in MJ innocence.

We have many factual proof of his innocence.

It is not the same.

This goes with respect, thanks.

Topflux · Jun 22, 2011

Billy gene said:
I can't believe people think this way Shamone girls and boy's we all know that Mike was full of Pranks? BUT....
Maybe he did all himself this Hoax and weird things around his death to make sure that people let him live forever?(like Elvis!!)That could ex plane the Hoax it think
You can plan things like this before you die you know?
And it would bring in heaps of money for the family...

Lets not forget that Michael was Very smart!!
This what is said here sounds to me the same as the people that NOT Believed Michael to be innocent!!?
YES there you have it....HOW would You know he? (because it is in your Heart?)
We really don't know anything we only DREAM and HOPE i suppose that he is out there?
We only look at all the strange things that have happened..around his death Great detective work i Believe!
It does not throw me of to think that he is not dead at all...but it just gives me a little spark of hope...and that helps me and others get over the grief...and there are some people around that need this to help them get back to there life...Well....
If it happens to be the Greatest show on Earth... they are all into it the kids family and close friends....but it would be a hard one to pull off that is for sure...
it would make a Good Movie!
And...
why not? If your life is in danger?
It happened before with lots of people that they had to get a new life....
but too come back that is another story!...
Please don't get upset if people believe otherwise?
Let us have that little spark of Hope and Dreams we don't mean any harm....we know in the back of
our heads that it is just a Dream and sometimes dreams do come true so.....
Love to all

Michael would have never faked his death just like 'saving his legacy' or anything like that. By continueing to perform and record his legacy would have been just bigger (especially if touring). I don't believe he would have done it just to prevent touring. If he did it, it was something very much different. I can't explain but I have years already a feeling something really weird is going on and the ending was the weirdest meaning his death. Just the timing of his death and everything around it. I really don't know what was going on for a long timet

Ashtanga · Jun 22, 2011

:fear:

bluetopez · Jun 23, 2011

Comparing MJ's trial to the hoax...? NO! There two diff things. One is just a theory that many believe could be a reality or wish it to be? And the other IS a reality that sadly happen to MJ with actual proof he was innocent. If people choose not to believe in his innocence it's usually because they don't know the real facts or they have there own agenda to hate on him.

Anyway, Billy Gene ur MJ gif is very HOTT!

Billy gene · Jun 23, 2011

bluetopez said:
Comparing MJ's trial to the hoax...? NO! There two diff things. One is just a theory that many believe could be a reality or wish it to be? And the other IS a reality that sadly happen to MJ with actual proof he was innocent. If people choose not to believe in his innocence it's usually because they don't know the real facts or they have there own agenda to hate on him.

Anyway, Billy Gene ur MJ gif is very HOTT!

Severus Snape · Jun 25, 2011

No way. He wasn't the type to run away, and he proved that in 2005. Why would he do it now? Rationally, there is no motive for him to do so, and he was a very conscientious man--he would figure that his "death" would bring much sorrow to the world, especially to his fans. He wasn't a selfish person and he demonstrated that throughout his life. Moreover, why would he want to be estranged from his children, having them live with Mrs. Jackson, when it is clear as day that they were happiest with him?

I know you find it cold for us to say what we say, but it really isn't. It'd be far crueler to fuel a sweet lie, than to tell you the bitter truth, for the lie, regardless of how sweet it is, will forever remain as such. I wish you much comfort in your grieving process, and know that we all love you.

Topflux · Jun 25, 2011

You don't know anything about any motives...

could michael be out there somewhere??

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