Gary Mayor to Announce "Move Forward" For Jackson Center *Merged*

I think they should concentrate on a Jackson family museum...and these 80 year-olds should involved their kids. It looks fishy that none of the 8 kids are part of the Jackson family foundation and none attended the conference to support the project. Just weird....and predictable.

More & more this looks like a Joe Jackson pet project...but for reasons unknown he dragged Ms. Katherine in it.
 
Well, the monument is tasteless. One of the pictures on it is not even Michael, but E'Casanova! How disrespectful! So if the museum will be of this quality as well, then no thank you. (And I haven't expected anything better from Joe.)

oh my goodness. I am speechless. I didn't look closely at that monument so I didn't notice that photo. but oh my god. this is a new low.

I love you Michael.
 
It looks fishy that none of the 8 kids are part of the Jackson family foundation and none attended the conference to support the project. Just weird....and predictable.
Good point and I have asked that same question myself, i.e. "why is Joe Jackson the ONLY face from the Jackson family when it comes to this project?"

I really would have thought along with Joe Jackson, the remaining BROTHERS would have also been front and center while promoting the future of this project.

For whatever reason, it appears to me that the siblings don't want to be a part of this venture. Notably the absence of Randy and Jermaine who are the most vocal when it comes to THE FAMILY. LOL!
 
The agreement also describes the Jackson Family Center as a project that "will be funded through both private funding and public funding."

Clay promised not to spend any city money on the project.

Also note that Mayor Clay is apparently talking out of BOTH sides of his mouth.

The document that he signed says, "AND PUBLIC FUNDING." Yet he also "promised not to spend any city money on the project." That's what you call double-talk at its finest.

No wonder Gary remains in such bad shape!
 
This project will fail, IMO, Joe Jackson will blame MJ Estate, and everybody involved in THIS project will want money back...

MJs legacy by this project will be like mockery.

Media will again sneer at Michael, or at least at his family as losers who are not able to unite themselves in keeping MJs legacy on... and will compare Elvis Graceland as the example of the professional businesslike manner.

Joe Jackson is the ultimate moron who destroys MJ Legacy and status.
It will be total shame.
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One quotation from a discussion on the net:
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has seen a steady decline in attendance and has failed to make Cleveland any sort of tourist destination. Seattle's Experience Music Project struggled so much that Paul Allen had to add a Science Fiction Hall of Fame to lure more visitors. So why does Gary, Indiana think a Michael Jackson museum will pull in the crowds?

Graceland is wildly popular because Elvis lived and is buried there. Rather than some museum exhibit, the allure of Graceland lies in the extravagant vehicles and gaudy decor in Elvis' home. Michael Jackson will not be buried in this museum, nor will he have lived there, so it's not at all comparable to Graceland.
 
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This project will fail, IMO, Joe Jackson will blame MJ Estate, and everybody involved in THIS project will want money back...

MJs legacy by this project will be like mockery.

Media will again sneer at Michael, or at least at his family as losers who are not able to unite themselves in keeping MJs legacy on... and will compare Elvis Graceland as the example of the professional businesslike manner.

Joe Jackson is the ultimate moron who destroys MJ Legacy and status.
It will be total shame.
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I'm afraid you're spot on accurate on the fate of this mess...I only wished the estate was more authoritarian and quick in stopping this bogus before it gets to the point of ruining M's name or associate it to cheap projects....I wished they could stop Joe shady deals legally once for all...
 
Thanks for that quote Moonwalker.Fan. (Where did it come from?)

That quote makes perfect sense, and the fact that the folks who are involved with this project don't see that just amazes me to no end.

They talk about doing a feasibility study. In my opinion, they should have conducted a feasibility study BEFORE they held a press conference. It just looks like ANOTHER embarrassing project with Joe Jackson's name on it.

300 MILLION DOLLARS! Seriously, who do they think they're kidding. LOL!
 
I think that the reason Katherine Jackson is supporting the Family Museum project is that for the past 25 years she has watched 2 of her children soar in their careers, one to unimaginable heights, while the other 7 struggled either professionally, financially or both. It must have hurt her as a mother to see them not find the success that Michael and Janet achieved. I think that she feels that this is a way to recognize and boost the other Jacksons so that they will not become a footnote in history books under "Michael Jackson".

I have nothing against Gary and I will support anything they do so that it will be a success for Michael's sake, but all the politicians talk about is the number of visitors and the revenue it will generate. I know Gary needs businesses to come there to generate jobs and money through taxes, etc. but a museum for Michael should not be about jobs and money. A shoe factory could do that. Anything honoring Michael should be about his genius, love, peace, equality, saving the planet and most of all, the children of the world.
 
Saw an article in the guardian today about this. This just amazes me how it could get so far without the estates permission. I'm so sorry about all this Michael. You never deserved this.
 
I think that the reason Katherine Jackson is supporting the Family Museum project is that for the past 25 years she has watched 2 of her children soar in their careers, one to unimaginable heights, while the other 7 struggled either professionally, financially or both. It must have hurt her as a mother to see them not find the success that Michael and Janet achieved. I think that she feels that this is a way to recognize and boost the other Jacksons so that they will not become a footnote in history books under "Michael Jackson".

I have nothing against Gary and I will support anything they do so that it will be a success for Michael's sake, but all the politicians talk about is the number of visitors and the revenue it will generate. I know Gary needs businesses to come there to generate jobs and money through taxes, etc. but a museum for Michael should not be about jobs and money. A shoe factory could do that. Anything honoring Michael should be about his genius, love, peace, equality, saving the planet and most of all, the children of the world.

i really like what you say, in the bolded
 
I did'nt understand a word Christian just said on that clip!

Nice magazine covers of Michael though.
 
Jackson megaplex 'on fast track'
LAND DEAL CITES CASINO, ADDRESSES FLOODING

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/article_e4963387-8747-5f6e-a560-8615b0a62d5a.html


With a land agreement appearing to be set, Gary's mayor said the city's Jackson family mecca is "on the fast track," with organizers planning a return visit to the city in the next couple of weeks.

Mayor Rudy Clay said Friday members of the Jackson Family Foundation will be back in the Steel City in the next two weeks with environmental experts to review land targeted for the massive complex.

Joined by family patriarch Joe Jackson, Clay unveiled plans Tuesday to build a 300-acre shrine to the city's musical family, including a museum and hotel, that will cost at least $300 million.

Organizers have imagined an open-air, green-landscaped home to a theater, retail stores and "casino at a future date," resting south of Interstate 80/94 between Broadway and Grant Street.

Among the land parcels the city deeded to the nonprofit foundation last week is Gilroy Stadium, the overgrown, long-neglected former football field at Harrison Boulevard and 30th Avenue.

According to the Indiana Finance Authority's Brownfields Program, the site remains on a brownfield list, as it was evaluated for petroleum remediation grant funds in 2007.

The property owner will have to conduct an assessment to determine any contamination, and "identify whether further assessment activities would be necessary for the site to be redeveloped," IFA spokeswoman Jessica Ewing said.

Because planners are eyeing a heavily flood-prone area, the real estate agreement notes construction may require working with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, as well as performing "extensive environmental impact report studies due to the setting of the site that includes both wetlands and the (Little) Calumet River."

Clay said foundation members will join officials from the Indiana Department of Environmental Management and the city's Environmental Affairs Department within two weeks to scout the project site.

The agreement affords the foundation tax-exempt status on the land for five years, with possible extensions, but threatens to remove it if construction is not "substantially" complete within five years of close of escrow.

According to the contract, the multimillion-dollar venue will be built with private and public funds, though Clay strongly vowed taxpayer money would not finance the project.

Contrary to claims from the late Jackson's estate, the contract also states the foundation has "secured the rights of use of the name 'Michael Jackson.'"

The city's contract stipulates the creation of a Michael Jackson Memorial Pavilion and Michael Jackson Performing Arts Center & Concert Hall.

But in a statement released to media this week, Howard Weitzman, the attorney representing the singer's estate and executors, said the estate "was never consulted about, nor is it involved in, the Jackson Family museum being proposed in Gary, Ind.
"Michael Jackson's music, name, likeness, memorabilia and other intellectual property are assets exclusively owned by the estate. These properties cannot be exploited legally without written authorization from the estate."

Gary Corporation Counsel Susan Severtson said the city has left negotiations regarding the estate to the foundation.

The city did not provide The Times with a signed copy of the agreement, but Clay said he and all members of the city's Public Works board signed it, as did Joe Jackson and Katherine Jackson.

Katherine Jackson's Los Angeles-based lawyer has not responded to requests for information about her signature and involvement in the project.

Parcels deeded to the Jackson Family Foundation by the city of Gary:
- 30th Avenue and Broadway
- 3200 Broadway, Gleason Park
- 33rd and Harrison Boulevard, Gleason Park
- 3200 Harrison Blvd., Gilroy Stadium

Source: Real estate agreement between City of Gary and Jackson Family Foundation

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...11df-945f-001cc4c002e0.pdf.pdf?_dc=1275709890
 
ah Joe

Developer of the project is called Jackson Development and Marketing Corporation based at Nevada. It looks like another company owned by Joe.

Simon Sahouri, president of the Jackson Family Foundation and of the Jackson Development and Marketing Corp., said when complete, the development would have three phases. He declined to release details about future plans.
Sahouri said the foundation is the nonprofit entity created to establish Jackson family-themed venues, and the corporation is responsible for the project's development and management. The corporation ultimately will operate the center.

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/article_c17cbe84-e963-5aab-85ef-c6ccce31474e.html


See the following about the use of the name

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So the foundation and developer (basically Joe and his companies) says that they secured the rights to use the "Michael Jackson" name as Michael's parents are both okay with it. They totally bypassed the estate and as we know Michael's parents cannot authorize the use his name.

and

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everything will be done by the development/foundation companies of Joe.. It looks like city is just giving the land and the tax incentives/exemption status etc.

so once again I'll classify this project in the "I'll believe it when I see it" category..
 
Contrary to claims from the late Jackson's estate, the contract also states the foundation has "secured the rights of use of the name 'Michael Jackson.'"

But in a statement released to media this week, Howard Weitzman, the attorney representing the singer's estate and executors, said the estate "was never consulted about, nor is it involved in, the Jackson Family museum being proposed in Gary, Ind.
"Michael Jackson's music, name, likeness, memorabilia and other intellectual property are assets exclusively owned by the estate. These properties cannot be exploited legally without written authorization from the estate."

Gary Corporation Counsel Susan Severtson said the city has left negotiations regarding the estate to the foundation.

Actually it's not contrary to the claims of the estate as you can see in my previous post, the contract says that "they secured the rights to Michael's name and image FROM Joe and Katherine".

So what Weitzman said seems to be the truth looking to the wording in the contract.
 
Actually it's not contrary to the claims of the estate as you can see in my previous post, the contract says that "they secured the rights to Michael's name and image FROM Joe and Katherine".

So what Weitzman said seems to be the truth looking to the wording in the contract.

I wonder if they secured Janet's name & image? Or Jermaine's?

The more they put the emphasis on MJ...the harder it will be for the other brothers & sisters to make a living making music. They are creating a gulf between MJ & the rest of them. Complete oblivion.
 
I see a lawsuit coming

just a matter of time.......:doh:

Hopefully

The executors won't sue. It would look bad...and they would look like bullies attacking a grieving family. Even if that family's own behaviour is questionable.

That is what Randy & Joe Jackson want. A public war...so the fans can take their side...and reject the estate and everything they want to do.

It is all part of his plan: those mysterious tweets, Forest Lawn opened to fans (even though it was never closed), Jackson Family foundation...

Thank good MJ took a bunch of classy people to handle the estate...hopefully,they won't lower themselves to the Jacksons' (except MJ's 3 kids of course).

Pathetic...but not surprised...knowing their history.
 
The executors won't sue. It would look bad...and they would look like bullies attacking a grieving family. Even if that family's own behaviour is questionable.

That is what Randy & Joe Jackson want. A public war...so the fans can take their side...and reject the estate and everything they want to do.

It is all part of his plan: those mysterious tweets, Forest Lawn opened to fans (even though it was never closed), Jackson Family foundation...

Thank good MJ took a bunch of classy people to handle the estate...hopefully,they won't lower themselves to the Jacksons' (except MJ's 3 kids of course).

Pathetic...but not surprised...knowing their history.
ur totally right memfan.. they won't sue .. randy and his likes know this very well, they acting like this due to the reasons u just said..
u know im so glad those children will be 40 until they get full control by that time, they hopefully won't have to deal with the likes of randy.. joseph **comment removed by StaceyMJ**
 
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I'm as upset as you guys, but can we refrain from wishing the family to hell and other things like that? It would be nice to keep the tone above that. Thankyou. :flowers:
 
i don't think estate need to act on this because 1st and foremost reason i can see is
"this project is not going to see any day light ".
i don't think other developer are going to help joe is his venture, people know estate is not involve and randy and joe don't have that credibility in any business.
 
I'm just hoping that the estate brings a lawsuit against this. Michael's name, likeness, everything is there for the benefit of his children, charities and for Katherine in her lifetime. No one else. That's what Michael wanted and its so upsetting to see his wishes not being honoured.
 
as it's not even started yet for the time being the estate can simply send a cease and desist letter saying that they can't use Michael's name, image , likeliness.. It will be the developer/foundation's duty to sit/talk with the estate and get their approval..

In addition to that they have the task of raising $300M..
 
the sale of the belts was stopped. So, the estate is not afraid of Joe.
 
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