How people on the streets feel

[PrincessMichaela]

Well the streets of harlem Ny my home town is really hurt by his passing MJ music is always played on the street corners and most of the times I see shopping stores playing MJ music on the radio or watching his videos on TV its hard

Same where I am in Brooklyn. :yes: The local convenience store, Caribbean restaurant and ice cream shop all still have his picture on the wall. People still sit outside the grocery store selling hand-made buttons. People in my apt building blast MJ multiple times a week. Not too long ago I was getting ready for work (8am) and heard someone playing "TWYMMF" and then when I was downstairs, walking out the door (9am) someone else was playing "I'll Be There".

 

[Ramona122003]

The average Joe is not bother by celebrity news, plain and simple. Especially during a time of a recession where people are losing their jobs, homes, security, and such. They can't be bother with the problem of a big star who died. Also most people are burnt out with Michael Jackson news since that was all the media talked about for 3 months. That is despite the wars going on, what happen in Iran, the debate on health care, and so on. The world did not stop when Michael died and most people have moved on.

Now, when arrest are made and charges are file, people may care again, but they don't care to hear it now. Also, the stigma with doctors and patients was not started by Michael and Murray. Their is a long line of people who has died because by the hands of a doctor and the doctor is usually not severly blame. Even as big as Elvis was and fans being upset about his death did not change his doctors walking scoot free. Even if he was an addict, the doctors still gave him drugs that killed him. There was nothing illegal in his body. Same what is going on with Anna Nicole Smith. Her doctor filled her up with drugs and the general public still don't really blame the doctor. Even when a doctor mess up during surgery and the person dies, people still emphasis with the doctor. This is not just in Michael's case. It may not be fair, but that is how it is.

You can't force people to care, just as some of you may not care if Usher or any other star that you don't follow get gun down in the street. Just as you couldn't force people to care whether people thought Michael was a pedo or not. Just as you might not care if R. Keller had sex with the underage girl or not.

The only people who needs to care is the 12 people who will be on that jury if this goes to trial. No one else.

 

[Loralee]

Pffftttttt!!!!

Most of those fools are speaking out of their backsides.

To me, their opinions don't matter because they are so uninformed.

They are ignorant. Asking them about Murray is like asking a five year old about their opinion on genetic engineering or the state of world politics.

When you don't know the correct details about a subject, you CANNOT give an informed opinion on it.

The people who were questioned are truly ignorant of what has really happened here thanks to various media outlets putting spin on the whole Murray situation.
Also, these people’s opinions have been tainted due to the medias willingness to paint Michael as a drug addict for most of his life.

People like this are the ones that discredited Michael and thought the worst of him while he was alive. Now that Michael is dead, they are doing the same thing because they are still ignorant of the details surrounding this situation.
They are ignorant about Michael himself, and about what type of person Michael really was.

I dont give a flying fudge about their thoughts, they are invalid.
Sadly, this shows that people are willing to assume the worst about MJ, even after he is dead.

I'm in Michaels corner, and will always be in Michaels corner. He needs us to fight for him because of the massive amount of misinformation that continues to float around long after he has been gone.

 

[Soundmind]

I blame no one but his own family for the junkie stories because everything started with them in 2007 when he refused to do a concert with them and refused to drop a lawsuit against Randy's people and refused to make them part of his will and refused to make them executors of his will

 

[MJsAngelOfMusic]

it's interetsing hearing how people view this

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Why don't they ever find me for interviews! I travel through this exact area of DC everyday. (I know that's not what this post is about):smilerolleyes:

But!

Why did he have to ask this question to people in DC? I'm gonna be honest. I like this city but I don't like the people here! They are self absorbed in DC and in that area all the business folks look down on you! they really do.

In that area in General; people think they better! whether business or average. I seriously think some people here have no hearts and it's only about them. They are cookie cut outs and would never go against the grain and speak truthfully or have an open mind.

This was not a good area to asks that question in..:no:

:wub: To the lady in braids that answered the question from her heart!

DC sucks (some of the people..do) and I live here! lol!

 

[BunnyHead]

Come to Bedstuy, ask this girl from the streets

I have alot to say!!

 

[xo_lola_xo]

Most people I know (or all) keep saying "When the hell is he getting arrested?"

 

[helena22]

YEs, I bet they wouldn't think like this if it wasn't Michael Jackson who died at the hands of Murray under same exact circumstances, but one of their relatives.

Exactly. Judging from what I hear from those who are not fans or loyal fans, they don't care or say things like, "MJ committed suicide" or "MJ was a helpless addict." The discussion usually revolves around his "mistakes" or "faults" instead of Murray. I feel the media attack on him was made for such a long time that they're brainwashed to think like that. Worse, not all of them are straight-up haters.

 

[Mechi]

Oxman talking of overdose. A certain concert promoter jumping around a day or two later blasting insurance were covering overdose (indicating everybody knew there was a danger?!)... ppl are just telling what they were fed shortly after Michaels passing... I don't blame them. That's how ppl work the media... and these ppl are to blame.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

the gen public only know what the media allow/want them to know. 03-05 told us that. unless someone is educated on the subject their opinion is worthless

 

[Rockin.]

I'm in the UK right now. I've spoken to family members and friends etc, and asked them what they think. People basically think Michael is to blame because he was using propofol...simple as.. some do feel sympathy like ''he must have been in a bad state to want to use a general anesthetic etc''. Some people just view Murray as an 'enabler', in their mind if it wasn't Murray who was there doing it, someone else would have been and it would likely lead to the same conclusion. They forget all the shitty things Murray did that day, and they also forget the responsibility is on the doctor not the patient. The public also were shown by the media photos of LAPD taking bags out of MJs house and saying they were prescription medication, and we have reports about him having prescriptions in other people's names. Also.. everyone knows about MJs problems with painkillers IN THE PAST.. but that is not relevant to today. What Murray did is NOT excused by anything, especially not past events. Lastly every single time that this is reported on the tv the news reporter says 'Michael Jackson, who died of a drug overdose' with out telling the complete information. 'Drug overdose'?! Its not as simple as that.

Basically - what I have heard is represented by that girl in the furry hat.

Remember, members of the public may also have a generally bad feeling towards MJ.. because of the accusations, because they don't know the full information. At least on that video nobody said Murray should have an award for what he did - like I've seen people say on youtube comments. Makes me sick.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

I'm in the UK right now. I've spoken to family members and friends etc, and asked them what they think. People basically think Michael is to blame because he was using propofol...simple as.. some do feel sympathy like ''he must have been in a bad state to want to use a general anesthetic etc''.

the problem here is have u asked them if they are aware of all shit murray pulled. the phonecalls the lack of medical equipment. the changed stories. of course they wont be aware. ppls opinions are irrelevent when they dont know the full facts

 

[Beachlover]

It bothers me a bit how misinformed people can be, I'm willing to bet that most of the people interviewed in this video either don't care to be bothered by learning the facts, or just didn't care or were fans of Michael at all. I was becoming upset until the woman came on during the end explaining how Murray took away a families son, brother, and father from them, And I most certainly agree that Four years isn't a long enough penalty for what was done.

I have said it before and I will say it again. You have Oxman out there doing Joes bidding for him and each time the man does something it makes the family look more and more like they are out for money. THIS is what the public sees.

People get a general 'feel' from this sort of stuff and since no one from the Jackson family stops this man from speaking for THEM, it is the general publics knowledge that the family is out for money. That is how it looks.

Having the children on the Grammy program was great because you can see they are normal bright children, but then you have Oxman out there trying to get money from the estate up down and sideways and speaking for the family and this is what you get.

 

[Beachlover]

the problem here is have u asked them if they are aware of all shit murray pulled. the phonecalls the lack of medical equipment. the changed stories. of course they wont be aware. ppls opinions are irrelevent when they dont know the full facts

The general public gets whatever facts are thrown out the loudest and you know that.

They don't get the little facts we all know because thats not what sells newspapers. Its really very simple. Also, the family desperately needs to shut up one of their lawyers who is doing more harm than good.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

of course the media dictate what ppl get to know. and as we saw during 03-04 the meida has its agenda

 

[Beachlover]

of course the media dictate what ppl get to know. and as we saw during 03-04 the meida has its agenda

You can blame the media for having an agenda, but then you must also look at who is feeding them information. Where does the TMZ close insider information come from? Who is out there giving press conferences shouting DRUG ADDICT and to this day saying stupid stuff about Michaels parenting skills?

The media may have an agenda but they are being well fed.

 

[Rockin.]

the problem here is have u asked them if they are aware of all shit murray pulled. the phonecalls the lack of medical equipment. the changed stories. of course they wont be aware. ppls opinions are irrelevent when they dont know the full facts

You're right - same with the accusations against MJ. No I didn't ask them if they knew all that stuff before I asked them what they thought. After they told me their feelings I told them the stuff Murray did, which they didn't seem aware of.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

After they told me their feelings I told them the stuff Murray did, which they didn't seem aware of.

there u go. thankfully a jury will know everything murray did

 

[elusive moonwalker]

You can blame the media for having an agenda, but then you must also look at who is feeding them information. Where does the TMZ close insider information come from? Who is out there giving press conferences shouting DRUG ADDICT and to this day saying stupid stuff about Michaels parenting skills?

The media may have an agenda but they are being well fed.

very true

 

[mj_smile]

You can blame the media for having an agenda, but then you must also look at who is feeding them information. Where does the TMZ close insider information come from? Who is out there giving press conferences shouting DRUG ADDICT and to this day saying stupid stuff about Michaels parenting skills?

The media may have an agenda but they are being well fed.

Yes, you're so right!

 

[billyblues]

I just wanted to say a thing...:

I find it funny how most MJ fans will blame the all so called "media" for everything... Still they'll praise it when it has a good thing to say about Michael. This is hypocrisy and I mean it. First they hate, then they praise, then they hate it again. Media this, media that.

I'm a student in a journalism college and all I can say is... Get your facts straight. Even a site dedicated to reporting MJ-related news only is "media". My point being: blame the ones behind a "certain media", not "media" itself. Their work should be reporting the truth. If they aren't doing it... Then it's a eff'n shame and their blame, not "media". I feel something stuck in my throat everytime I hear someone calling out "the media", to be honest. Specially since I AM working in media-related grounds and I do my best to work with the truth.

And you know what? It was exactly things like what happened to Michael that motivated me to start studying it in first place, because I truly believe I can be part of a better world if I'm a good journalist myself, looking for the truth.

PS.: And if you hate "media" so much, I recommend living in a cave.

 

[ElleBella]

we have to remember these people aren't fans like us so they don't know as much information as us, they are speaking from what they get from the media. these are just random people on the streets being asked a question unprepared.

I agree, I know MANY people who love his music. But know nothing about Michael himself. Like I like Prince's music, but know nothing about him.

 

[ensleyave]

I just wanted to say a thing...:

I find it funny how most MJ fans will blame the all so called "media" for everything... Still they'll praise it when it has a good thing to say about Michael. This is hypocrisy and I mean it. First they hate, then they praise, then they hate it again. Media this, media that.

I'm a student in a journalism college and all I can say is... Get your facts straight. Even a site dedicated to reporting MJ-related news only is "media". My point being: blame the ones behind a "certain media", not "media" itself. Their work should be reporting the truth. If they aren't doing it... Then it's a eff'n shame and their blame, not "media". I feel something stuck in my throat everytime I hear someone calling out "the media", to be honest. Specially since I AM working in media-related grounds and I do my best to work with the truth.

And you know what? It was exactly things like what happened to Michael that motivated me to start studying it in first place, because I truly believe I can be part of a better world if I'm a good journalist myself, looking for the truth.

PS.: And if you hate "media" so much, I recommend living in a cave.

Be realistic. I am an insurance agent. Do you know the reputation we have? I try my best to be the most honest and best agent possible because I am an insider and have witness several things that are wrong with insurance. Just because I am an agent does not mean I am one of the bad ones. MY suggestion to you is accept that the National Media has left their responsibility in fair reporting and you become the ONE that is fair. Be the one to try and fix it. Aphrodite Jones and among others will tell you the agenda of the Media. Does that mean all NO but for conversational purposes the ratio of bad to good is very high bad very small good. Go to independent media and you will see what you are missing. We the fans reported more facts of MJ's life and trial than any reputable media source. I disagree with you totally but with love.

 

[billyblues]

Be realistic. I am an insurance agent. Do you know the reputation we have? I try my best to be the most honest and best agent possible because I am an insider and have witness several things that are wrong with insurance. Just because I am an agent does not mean I am one of the bad ones. MY suggestion to you is accept that the National Media has left their responsibility in fair reporting and you become the ONE that is fair. Be the one to try and fix it. Aphrodite Jones and among others will tell you the agenda of the Media. Does that mean all NO but for conversational purposes the ratio of bad to good is very high bad very small good. Go to independent media and you will see what you are missing. We the fans reported more facts of MJ's life and trial than any reputable media source. I disagree with you totally but with love.

I work with independent media. And when I said "ones behind it", I mean it.

My point was simply: how can one blame "media" when "media" itself won't work if there's no one "moving" it? The "national media" hasn't left anything, the ones behind it did.

I just don't get all the hate towards "media" when media englobes a lot of things, do you understand? You'd talk about independent media... That's still media. I hope I'm being clear now.
I 'get' the 'conversational purposes' line, but still...

PS.: There's one thing they teach very early in journalism college, at least in mine... And it is "never work against your beliefs. If you think that you can't do something because it'll go against ethic... You better stick to your opinion". I hope that will sum up all the things I've been saying about "the ones behind media".

 

[mj_smile]

Don't 'fight' against eachother!

Fight together, on one side .. finally justice for MJ prevails.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

I just don't get all the hate towards "media" when media englobes a lot of things, do you understand? You'd talk about independent media... That's still media. I hope I'm being clear now.
I 'get' the 'conversational purposes' line, but still...

yeah ofcourse the media is a big world alot of ppl. but even then u will be lucky to findany media that have been fair to mj. will using the word mainstream media make u happy?

 

[ensleyave]

I work with independent media. And when I said "ones behind it", I mean it.

My point was simply: how can one blame "media" when "media" itself won't work if there's no one "moving" it? The "national media" hasn't left anything, the ones behind it did.

I just don't get all the hate towards "media" when media englobes a lot of things, do you understand? You'd talk about independent media... That's still media. I hope I'm being clear now.
I 'get' the 'conversational purposes' line, but still...

PS.: There's one thing they teach very early in journalism college, at least in mine... And it is "never work against your beliefs. If you think that you can't do something because it'll go against ethic... You better stick to your opinion". I hope that will sum up all the things I've been saying about "the ones behind media".

If I understand you correctly, someone bigger is pushing them. Well we don't always have to be pushed. Several companies wanted me to do unscrupulous things and I would have made a lot of money but I thought about the people that would be hurt by it so I formed my own company and I do it the right way not the money grubbing way. I see your point but I agree with some but I do blame them because they can say no.

 

[Fluffy_Oz]

I just wanted to say a thing...:

I find it funny how most MJ fans will blame the all so called "media" for everything... Still they'll praise it when it has a good thing to say about Michael. This is hypocrisy and I mean it. First they hate, then they praise, then they hate it again. Media this, media that.

I'm a student in a journalism college and all I can say is... Get your facts straight. Even a site dedicated to reporting MJ-related news only is "media". My point being: blame the ones behind a "certain media", not "media" itself. Their work should be reporting the truth. If they aren't doing it... Then it's a eff'n shame and their blame, not "media". I feel something stuck in my throat everytime I hear someone calling out "the media", to be honest. Specially since I AM working in media-related grounds and I do my best to work with the truth.

And you know what? It was exactly things like what happened to Michael that motivated me to start studying it in first place, because I truly believe I can be part of a better world if I'm a good journalist myself, looking for the truth.

PS.: And if you hate "media" so much, I recommend living in a cave.

Gee, we need to be very very specific now, are we? Do you need me to provide you with a list of the 'media' I hate? Just for your piece of mind.

Good on you for trying to make a difference, though. You're one of very few.
Don't ever lose it.

 

[mjjmsc]

the media painted the image that Michael was a drug addict.we know he wasn't!we should defend him!he had some problems in 1993 but now he was clean.he had troble sleeping and this doctor instead of helping him gave him dangerous drugs and not even watch him carefull enought!

 

[CatherineNZ]

Well the streets of harlem Ny my home town is really hurt by his passing MJ music is always played on the street corners and most of the times I see shopping stores playing MJ music on the radio or watching his videos on TV its hard The streets is watching and they know MJ was murdered by the hands of a lot of people especially the urban Radio stations wants Justice he suppose to be here

it's good to know.
i went to a conference from work lately and talked to some people and they asked me about Michael. they told me that Michael was a fan of Elvis :bugeyed and that's why he followed his example. :bugeyed what rubbish! uke: i only wonder at people who know nothing but dare to judge someone. and they dont have any idea!!! they are so ignorant.