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Victoria83 said:
Michael had a LOT of medical knowledge. He used to buy and read medical books. I simply cannot imagine that he didn't own a PDR. (Physician's Desk Reference, available to the general public. It tells all about various medications and their interactions and side-effects.) Michael was extremely intelligent. There is not a snowball's chance that he didn't know EVERYTHING about this drug already. He would have had no need to ask "Nurse Lee" about it. Her role seems to be to place the blame on Michael, and not so much on Murray. I'm not buying it.

I'm not saying here that there was or was not someone else involved. But if there WAS, now would be a very good time for Murray to warble like a song-bird.
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I agree. Nurse Lee is just there to put blame on Michael and to help Murray's defense. And then you have dumbass Etok who now says Mike "asked" her for propfol too And she says before that she took a bunch of prescriptions from Mike's hotel room or w.e. I'm sorry but if someone is such an "addict" like Etok is claiming they aren't gonna just let you walk in and take their stuff. Yea right, I highly doubt Etok even knew Michael at all. Just another person used to put blame on Mike.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
anyone know if the below is correct
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well, you don't need to be an anaethesist but you have to be trained to give it , it is an ongoing war between doctors and anaethesist, the doctors claim a professionally trained nurse would do it and it would significantly reduce the costs .
 
Soundmind said:
well, you don't need to be an anaethesist but you have to be trained to give it , it is an ongoing war between doctors and anaethesist, the doctors claim a professionally trained nurse would do it and it would significantly reduce the costs .
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Can you give the source where you got this from, please?
 
Originally Posted by CherubimII
Criminal Attorney Added to Legal Team for Michael Jackson's Former Physician

January 8, 2010 |
Michael Jackson’s former personal physician has hired a Los Angeles criminal defense attorney to help his legal team combat a potential manslaughter prosecution in the pop icon’s fatal overdose last summer.

Dr. Conrad Murray hired Glendale attorney J. Michael Flanagan on Tuesday, the physician’s lead lawyer, Ed Chernoff, confirmed.
The lawyer previously won a manslaughter acquittal for a nurse tried in what is believed to be the only other L.A. criminal case involving propofol, the powerful sedative blamed in Jackson’s death.

Sources have told The Times for several months that Murray is expected to face involuntary manslaughter charges. The Associated Press, citing an unnamed source, reported today that prosecutors will seek an indictment against Murray for involuntary manslaughter.

Law enforcement officials have identified Murray as the target of a manslaughter investigation in search warrants filed in court in the months after Jackson’s death, but a spokeswoman for the district attorney said today that no decision had been made in Murray’s case.


“We have not been formally presented with the case by the LAPD yet.... We do not have a pending case,” spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons said. Murray’s lawyers said that if prosecutors had convened a grand jury, they had not notified them or invited the doctor to testify. Flanagan, Murray’s new attorney, said the discussion of an involuntary manslaughter charge was not surprising.

“That is the only thing they could charge him with, but it doesn’t mean that a grand jury would indict him,” said Flanagan. In 2004, the district attorney’s office prosecuted two Burbank nurses for involuntary manslaughter for administering the anesthetic to a cancer patient without authorization of an anesthesiologist.
The patient died. One nurse pleaded no contest to a lesser charge. The other, represented by Flanagan, was acquitted.
-- Harriet Ryan

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...r-charges.html
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ok , here is a TRAINED nurse practicing in a MEDICAL FACILITY and under her care a patient died , she was accused of involuntary manslaughter , the scenario with Murray is COMPLETELY different .
 
There are several people on the I.U. board, including Victoria83, who predicted that Murray will not spend one day in jail. Sadly, it seems that they were right.

Keep fighting for the truth!
Love,
Maira.
 
Popescu said:
There are several people on the I.U. board, including Victoria83, who predicted that Murray will not spend one day in jail. Sadly, it seems that they were right.

Keep fighting for the truth!
Love,
Maira.
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I been feeling that way since it first happen
 
I just heard this on our (Houston) local news. Murray just hired a new LA attorney, one who was Britney Spears lawyer, and also was a lawyer for a nurse, who was getting in trouble with propofol. He got both of them off the hook.
 
Can't they also charge Sony for murdering Michael?:mat: I wouldn't be suprised that they hired and payed Murray to inject that sedative Propofol into Michael. Look what have done to his career the past ten years. The album Invincible, Beatles Catalog, Greatest Hits efter Greatest Hits and so on. They never thought the best interest for Michael but instead they wanted to milk money from his music and force him to surrender his share of the Sony/ATV Catalog. That's why we now see another Greatest Hits album called This Is It with an old unreleased song that wasn't written by him and Sony didn't give any credits to Paul Anka! Over a half year has passed and I am in still in shock and awe of what has happened. :no:

Or what about that will that was updated just three week before his death? That John Branca and the other person would work as an executor for Michael if he passed away? Very suspicous!

There must've been people/organisation who planned to kill Michael this way and they succeded very well :no:
 
ElleBella said:
I just heard this on our (Houston) local news. Murray just hired a new LA attorney, one who was Britney Spears lawyer, and also was a lawyer for a nurse, who was getting in trouble with propofol. He got both of them off the hook.
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We will not let this shit happen it is time to put some fire under the D.A.'s ass. We need to start organizing right now. We must fight.
 
Butterfly26 said:
"That said, we're told the case is complicated, in part because Dr. Murray did not break any laws in administering Propofol to Jackson. "

THAT is a bunch of bullshit. Murray that gutless stool parasite better go to jail, justice must be served. How can you leave a family without any expanatioons as to what happend to their love one. Heartless bastard he is. He never said he was sorry or give any explanation as to what happened..CREUL!

Michael was just surrounded by demons, makes your freakin skin crawl thinking about it!
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I feel sick :(...:cry:
 
babybugz1 said:
Someone on TMZ said this might last another year
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I know I've been quite impatient for the TRUTH to come out and the investigation to be complete.

But I'd rather it last another year and have Murray convicted of first degree murder (second degree the least) than have the investigation end now and have him convicted of a lie (manslaughter).
 
ElleBella said:
Wouldn't be surprised. Anna Nicole died in 07' and things are just now going to court.
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I am not worrying about going to court right now because that will take awhile to get on the docket but we need charges now. We need to organize with other mj fan sites and Heath Ledger fan site, Anna Nicole' site, and others that have died due to medication. Maybe they can get justice through Michael. We need help putting the pressure on the D.A. if they think no one is watching or care they will go for the bullshit charge.
 
kasume said:
I know I've been quite impatient for the TRUTH to come out and the investigation to be complete.

But I'd rather it last another year and have Murray convicted of first degree murder (second degree the least) than have the investigation end now and have him convicted of a lie (manslaughter).
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Yea me too. I want the truth and "manslaughter" ain't it.
 
ElleBella said:
I just heard this on our (Houston) local news. Murray just hired a new LA attorney, one who was Britney Spears lawyer, and also was a lawyer for a nurse, who was getting in trouble with propofol. He got both of them off the hook.
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no need to panic, the nurse was a trained one, the patient was in a medical facility and he died ,the medical equipment were there to revive .

nothing of the above is in the scenario that involves Murray .
 
john13th said:
Can't they also charge Sony for murdering Michael?:mat: I wouldn't be suprised that they hired and payed Murray to inject that sedative Propofol into Michael. Look what have done to his career the past ten years. The album Invincible, Beatles Catalog, Greatest Hits efter Greatest Hits and so on. They never thought the best interest for Michael but instead they wanted to milk money from his music and force him to surrender his share of the Sony/ATV Catalog. That's why we now see another Greatest Hits album called This Is It with an old unreleased song that wasn't written by him and Sony didn't give any credits to Paul Anka! Over a half year has passed and I am in still in shock and awe of what has happened. :no:

Or what about that will that was updated just three week before his death? That John Branca and the other person would work as an executor for Michael if he passed away? Very suspicous!

There must've been people/organisation who planned to kill Michael this way and they succeded very well :no:
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A person cannot be charged twice for the same crime, so if Murray is charged and tried for involuntary manslaughter, that will be the end of it. Except, if it's a "light" charge (involuntary manslaughter) he will probably plead guilty and there will be NO trial and we may never know exactly what happened.

I have long predicted that he would get the lightest charge. I still hope that somehow, I'm wrong.

There are two other remedies, if Murray "walks." One is for the Jackson family to file a wrongful death suit. I'd expect that would be against Murray and AEG, as Murray's employer. Nobody has EVER proven that:

1. Michael actually ASKED for Murray (or was he selected . . . . . FOR Michael?)

2. That anyone OTHER than AEG was going to pay Murray. Michael was not the one paying his staff, including body-guards, and he was not the one paying Murray. (going to pay him?) If AEG hired an incompetent doctor to care for the most famous person on earth, then the Jacksons would have a case against them.

The second remedy would be, if this was indeed a larger crime, for someone ELSE to be charged and tried in addition to Murray and sometime down-the-road. Murray could not be tried again, but if there are others, THEY could. I'm not saying there WERE others, because I do not know/have no proof. But if there were, that will ALWAYS be hanging over their heads.

And speaking of "hanging?" I truly hope Murray stays healthy and alive so he can someday say what really happened. The timeline makes no sense. The flurry of phone calls makes no sense. Leaving Michael alone makes no sense. We've not even been told the REAL time of death! So yeah, I hope Murray doesn't have any "accidents."
 
Foxnews claims the DA wants to charge him with a more serious charge than involuntary manslaughter , which means in California second degree murder.

Foxnews confirmed three days after the autopsy was performed that the coroner was very shocked how healthy MJ was , which turned out to be true, Foxnews also stated sources informed them there would be a raid on mikey pharmacy the next week at the time, which also turned out to be true .

I believe Fox sources have been credible so far

we have an example, the nurse was charged with invoulantary mansulghter eventhough she was trained, the drug was given in a medical facility where all the medical equipment necessary to revive were present and it was given to a cancer patien . would you please tell me how could manslughter be applied in MJ's case ?
 
Soundmind said:
Foxnews claims the DA wants to charge him with a more serious charge than involuntary manslaughter , which means in California second degree murder.

Foxnews confirmed three days after the autopsy was performed that the coroner was very shocked how healthy MJ was , which turned out to be true, Foxnews also stated sources informed them there would be a raid on mikey pharmacy the next week at the time, which also turned out to be true .

I believe Fox sources have been credible so far

we have an example, the nurse was charged with invoulantary mansulghter eventhough she was trained, the drug was given in a medical facility where all the medical equipment necessary to revive were present and it was given to a cancer patien . would you please tell me how could manslughter be applied in MJ's case ?
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If he is charged with a more serious crime and Murray pleads "innocent" then maybe he will open his mouth and speak about the other people involved? idk :scratch:
 
Soundmind said:
Foxnews claims the DA wants to charge him with a more serious charge than involuntary manslaughter , which means in California second degree murder.

Foxnews confirmed three days after the autopsy was performed that the coroner was very shocked how healthy MJ was , which turned out to be true, Foxnews also stated sources informed them there would be a raid on mikey pharmacy the next week at the time, which also turned out to be true .

I believe Fox sources have been credible so far

we have an example, the nurse was charged with invoulantary mansulghter eventhough she was trained, the drug was given in a medical facility where all the medical equipment necessary to revive were present and it was given to a cancer patien . would you please tell me how could manslughter be applied in MJ's case ?
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I agree with you about the Fox News source. They have been spot on since Michael's death.

I do have a theory in mind here. I think that the LAPD gave the D.A. their case a few months ago and the D.A. was not satisfied and told the police to dig deeper and find more evidence so a stronger charge against Murray would stick.
 
so please no need to panic , we have to wait and see what they are going to charge him with . obviously Murray's attorney were hoping it would be JUST an involuntary manslaughter from the very beginning when chernoff took him to do the interview with the police , from the lawyer's words you can feel a sense of relieve on their part , but I don't think that would be the case at all . the time of death, the delay , the lies ....etc NO WAY it is just an involuntary manslaughter .
 
You know what? The world really is full of sh*t!

But I'm still going to pray for justice. I'm not believing any of this sh*t just yet.

Keep the faith.
 
Trish said:
I agree with you about the Fox News source. They have been spot on since Michael's death.

I do have a theory in mind here. I think that the LAPD gave the D.A. their case a few months ago and the D.A. was not satisfied and told the police to dig deeper and find more evidence so a stronger charge against Murray would stick.
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very true, the DA has been part of the investigation for months now , we heard it before , TMZ claimed the delay was because the DA wanted to make sure there was no other source for propofol but applied pharmacy .

why would the DA feel they have to cover the possibility that other source was providing propofol if the supply from applied pharmacy matched murray's story ?

I believe the answer would be , it did not match and in their way to prove Murray was a pathological liar , they made sure he would not surprise them during the trial and introduce another source .


50 mg dosage that was given daily during the last six weeks according to murray that does not make any sense medically , is no where near in amount what is actually needed to sedate a person .
 
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I also have another theory in all of this - that this leak is on purpose to find out who in the LAPD is leaking information. This TMZ story is almost a direct copy of a DailyBeast.com article that came out a few weeks ago: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-28/source-jackson-doc-wont-face-murder/

It's common for law enforcement agencies to leak false stories to their team members to find who the leak in their dept is.

However, it does look like TMZ may be playing catch up or they got majorly scooped by The Daily Beast. Either way, isn't it the same story?
 
Trish said:
I agree with you about the Fox News source. They have been spot on since Michael's death.

I do have a theory in mind here. I think that the LAPD gave the D.A. their case a few months ago and the D.A. was not satisfied and told the police to dig deeper and find more evidence so a stronger charge against Murray would stick.
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Didn't we recieve a media report months ago that in addition to the LAPD's Investigation, there were also independent Investigations going on by the DEA as well as the BNE( Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement) and the D.A.'s office?????

When I first read that, I took it to mean the case was already in the hands of the D.A. and other Law officials.

Anybody elese remember or have that article?
 
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