MJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

[StaceyMJ]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Well I for one am very welcoming of this news and it's long overdue in my opinion. I personally do not agree with a lot of Katherine's actions but I will treat her with nothing but respect as I feel that's what I personally should do.

Please discuss this all you like but remember respect for each other is key to a peaceful discussion.

 

[Vici]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Either that or she is lying, to justify her business relationship with Mann.

Maybe Katherine only takes into consideration of what she can spend on herself like entertainment, clothing, personal groomig etc and thats the reason to why she says she is only getting 7,000/month?

Because the rest of her allowance are being paid to other ppl that assist her.. drivers, assistance and what not. Of course that is also HER expenses but maybe she is not taking that into consideration because maybe she had more money to spend on just HERSELF before June 25th?

Just a theory.. (that doesnt excuse her behaviour.. just trying to understand her and her motives when she says she is only getting $7,000/month)

 

[kasume]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Maybe Katherine only takes into consideration of what she can spend on herself like entertainment, clothing, personal groomig etc and thats the reason to why she says she is only getting 7,000/month?

Because the rest of her allowance are being paid to other ppl that assist her.. drivers, assistance and what not. Of course that is also HER expenses but maybe she is not taking that into consideration because maybe she had more money to spend on just HERSELF before June 25th?

Just a theory.. (that doesnt excuse her behaviour.. just trying to understand her and her motives)

Maybe she is taking into consideration on what she can spend on HER FIVE GRANGCHILDREN like entertainment, clothing, personal grooming...etc. And private school costs a lot of money. Some private highschools cost more than public colleges.

And I see that Prince and Paris still like Ed Hardy just like their father. They've already lost him, I say let them still wear it, even though it'll never be near replacing him. And we can't forget the increasing prices in the economy.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

There isn't much to understand the bottom line is money, she is doing all these things for money. Period. For money she is selling those orphans to that porn guy. There are other ways of getting money, like for example asking her millionaire daughter, she's got a fortune and she is spending it all by herself, I'm sure it's not a big thing for Janet to give her money loving mother some kind of allowance, as 26k is not enough for her.

As for PPB's clothing, they get 80k plus allowance monthly, around 100k as theirs was increased, def that's enough money to take care of their cheap Ed Hardy Tee's

 

[StacyJ]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

There isn't much to understand the bottom line is money, she is doing all these things for money. Period. For money she is selling those orphans to that porn guy. There are other ways of getting money, like for example asking her millionaire daughter, she's got a fortune and she is spending it all by herself, I'm sure it's not a big thing for Janet to give her money loving money some kind of allowance, as 26k is not enough for her.

As for PPB's clothing, they get 80k plus allowance monthly, around 100k as theirs was increased, def that's enough money to take care of their cheap Ed Hardy Tee's

I agree.. Janet doesn't have children, she's never been sued or has to fight lawsuit after lawsuit like MJ had to yet she isn't supporting her mother. From what Joe and Katherine was saying if it wasn't for MJ they would be homeless. Why is that? Latoya rolls around in a rolls royce and so does Jermaine, why can't they help their mama out?

 

[MJStorm]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Well I for one am very welcoming of this news and it's long overdue in my opinion. I personally do not agree with a lot of Katherine's actions but I will treat her with nothing but respect as I feel that's what I personally should do.

Please discuss this all you like but remember respect for each other is key to a peaceful discussion.

Only one thing is missing: someone to tell Katherine "toothpick nose" Jackson that she must respect her son.

 

[StacyJ]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Only one thing is missing: someone to tell Katherine "toothpick nose" Jackson that she must respect her son.

Bravo!!!

 

[MJStorm]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

There isn't much to understand the bottom line is money, she is doing all these things for money. Period. For money she is selling those orphans to that porn guy. There are other ways of getting money, like for example asking her millionaire daughter, she's got a fortune and she is spending it all by herself, I'm sure it's not a big thing for Janet to give her money loving mother some kind of allowance, as 26k is not enough for her.

As for PPB's clothing, they get 80k plus allowance monthly, around 100k as theirs was increased, def that's enough money to take care of their cheap Ed Hardy Tee's

I agree:agree:

 

[StaceyMJ]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Only one thing is missing: someone to tell Katherine "toothpick nose" Jackson that she must respect her son.

Totally agree, believe me, but for the sake of it it would be nice to rise above stuff like that for the sake of the forum right?

 

[kasume]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

"My mother's wonderful. To me, she's perfection." - MJ

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

"My mother's wonderful. To me, she's perfection." - MJ

don't put quote from mj ,we are talking about their behavior after his death .i am sure he will be disgusted by their behavior.
u like to put mj quote so let me remind u when he was upset with his mom because she did interview about him .

 

[StacyJ]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

don't put quote from mj ,we are talking about their behavior after his death .i am sure he will be disgusted by their behavior.
u like to put mj quote so let me remind u when he was upset with his mom because she did interview about him .

exactly.. I bet MJ would be devastated that his mother disparaged him on Oprah with the toothpick nose comment and that his baby sister called him a drug addict. MJ would be totally devastated by their actions but I don't think he would be shocked at all.

 

[kasume]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

I can quote Michael all I want whenever I feel necessary. This is a Michael Jackson board.

I'm sure he would also be disgusted by you all's friends (at another board) who are going around posting pictures of his children and calling Michael's family members crude words

His sister mentioned an intervention because that is what Grace Rwaramba was spreading to that family. LIES.

And how do we katherine did not mean to hurt Michael with that comment? Even though I knew she was simply expressing her opinion, I HATED that comment too. And it sunk my heart for a moment, but as I think more about it. I don't believe she MEANT to hurt him or his image with that commment.

If anyone is hurt, it is her. Those tears don't lie. And I just hope that she knows her son didn't mean to break her heart with a drug overdose death. The drug overdoser was murray.

 

[twinklEE]

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He'd be disgusted at her binding his minor kids to a porn producer, he'd be disgusted at her saying he was a junkie in denial, he'd be disgusted and extremely hurt over her saying his nose was ugly and toothpick thin on television. There was no need for her to do all this, why didn't she talk about her daughters fake boops or Latoya's face and how much she changed, why didn't mention her own fake nose a long with that of her husbands, and all her other children's? What was the point to single out Michael, when she never had the guts to do it while he was alive, u can continue to defend, fact still remains her actions are indefensible, why didn't she go and bind Jermaine's minor kids to that porn producer,
It's fair to say that Michael would be beyond disappointed in a lot of people and one of those people happen to be Katherine Jackson. It's sad to see how wrong he was when it came to her.

Crude is what they're doing, their actions are crude and whatever criticism/disappointment they are encountering, from us and other people, they have to blame no one but themselves.

 

[Vici]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Hm did anyone else notice that part of the proceeds of sales goes to the 'Heal The World Foundation'?!!!

Is it the fake charity organization that Melissa Johnson set up?

Is that the SAME organization that got shut down by a judge in April 2010?? And if it was shut down, are they still allowed to operate???????

Good job Mama Jackson...

 

[twinklEE]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

IT's the fake organization, The Estate's letter made clear that this fake 'heal the world' has nothing to do with Michael or his old 'heal the world' organization

 

[Vici]

IT's the fake organization, The Estate's letter made clear that this fake 'heal the world' has nothing to do with Michael or his old 'heal the world' organization

The Estate of Michael Jackson today announced that United States District Court Judge Dolly M. Gee granted its request for a preliminary injunction enjoining the “Heal the World Foundation” from further exploiting the use of Michael Jackson’s name, image and likeness and also from using any Michael Jackson-related trademarks.

"In her written order, Judge Gee wrote that the websites of Ms. Johnson’s entities “convey to consumers a false affiliation with Michael Jackson and have, in fact, misled consumers into believing that Defendants are associated with Michael Jackson or Jackson’s foundations.” She added that the decision by Ms. Johnson’s entities to use Michael Jackson-related trademarks in its websites and on products it sells “is clearly related to Michael Jackson’s commercial success.”

So since she more or less got shut down by court I thought they (HTWF) were done operating.. but obviosuly not.. how on Earth did this Melissa girl nestle herself into Mann's world?? How is even HTWF being kept alive? Are ppl still donating to it?

Mama Jackson + Mann + Melissa Johnson.. wtf is going on?? I need to go to sleep and never wake up.. its like Michael is being fucked so bad over and over, nightmare after nightmare, disrespect after disrespect.. cant stand to watch this...

 

[Ohood]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Janet is like Oprah , no real feelings she is acting,,,living in Hollywood made them monsters..Even Latoya wrote in her book that Kathrine and Janet are not perfect especially Janet who hold grudge for years !
she also warned MJ from some actions by his mother , like selling Latoya to a producer but Mj refused to belive that his mother is greedy like this , she wrote that he thought that Kathrine is a saint and he did not believe Latoya when she told him that mom loves money as much as Joe !

i know that Latoya is not a good source but i geuss we saw this by ourselves,,,let's wait and see,,,Randy will tweet about this soon enough ! i geuss the money from unvieling items and the book will make him angry for not getting his share and he will spell some beans !


anyway, i can't blame Kathrine she is a mother and when you have seven kids and 20 grand kid asking u for money every day , what will she do except begging for more money to shut them up !

 

[Krshna28]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Finally..........

......The estate are gonna kick some butt...........


......and what's with Katherine.........

......she's acting like she now owns everything Michael........

 

[AngieJ]

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The key is money. For money they do everything, for money Katherine and others, are ready and willing to bind MINOR KIDS to a guy who has strong connections to the PORN INDUSTRY, a guy who is a porn producer.
What happened doesn't matter it's cash in time now for them, and it has just begun, prepare urselves for even more shady ventures and deals, and even more questionable contracts signed by Katherine and Co.

I get that they want and need money, but where is this delusion coming from that they're going to make it with this guy? Nobody is going to go near anything this guy tries to put out. Even if the kids are involved, no way is Katherine ever going to make any big money with Mann. He's too Z-list and it's just all so icky.

I'm just baffled by the stupidity and desperation of this whole thing.

 

[Justthefacts]

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What is going to happen is one day the estate is going to end up going after Katherine. She is actively working against something that is making money for Michael's children and her. There is no way anyone can defend this and if you are trying to do so. Your crazy. She is trying to undercut her son for the sake of a few dollars yet her other grandchildren and her other children are to busy bitching about songs to care. Once again I ask where is the outrage?

 

[StacyJ]

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What is going to happen is one day the estate is going to end up going after Katherine. She is actively working against something that is making money for Michael's children and her. There is no way anyone can defend this and if you are trying to do so. Your crazy. She is trying to undercut her son for the sake of a few dollars yet her other grandchildren and her other children are to busy bitching about songs to care. Once again I ask where is the outrage?

They are not outraged about anything unfortunately. They weren't even outraged that their son/brother was killed by a doctor. I haven't seen any outrage from that family during this whole sad tragedy.

 

[serendipity]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

No, I don't think Michael would approve of that. But it's so easy for Oprah to take advantage of Michael's dear 80 year old mother. Katherine is also not aware of everything that is going on.

This has nothing to do with Oprah. Katherine is the one who signed a contract with this pornographer, binding MJ's children to promote their stuff. It was them wanting to go on Oprah not the other way around. They know very well what they're doing.

Estate have to be ashamed of themselves and ask why Katherine does not want to deal with them? Obviously there is something wrong with those ppl. I am waiting when Branca will finally sell catalogue to Sony and transfer as much cash as possible to his fake charities. This is what is happening now I guess.
In time all estate supporters will find themselves in a very strange situation.

Something is wrong with the Jacksons not the Estate. Katherine's deadbeat sons can't take care of their own children and are waiting on their 80 y.o. mother to support them -- and you're going on how something is wrong with the Estate? Good grief.

 

[ivy]

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I thought Katherine was getting 26,000 a monthly allowance and not $7,000/month as she claims in the LA Times article. She also went to court 3 months ago to ask for an increase... see link http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/23/kathe...e-probate-case-judge-order-katherine-jackson/

These are Katherines expenses per month according to court documents from september 2009:

- Assistant: $4,722
- Insurance for Asst: $475
- Housekeeper: $2,080
- Driver: $2,000
- Payroll and Taxes on gross salaries: $1,760
- Utilities: $3,260
- Clothing: $3,500
- Personal grooming: $1,000
- Entertainment: $1,500
- Car Expenses: $1,750
(plus a few other expenses that are not listed).

I dont know if this has been subjected to changes



So when Katherine claims in that LA Times article shes only getting $7,000-8,000/month.. is that because of the Koreans? Is that why she cant get her totalt $26,000/month because a large part of that amount goes to pay the Koreans?

Maybe Katherine only takes into consideration of what she can spend on herself like entertainment, clothing, personal groomig etc and thats the reason to why she says she is only getting 7,000/month?

Because the rest of her allowance are being paid to other ppl that assist her.. drivers, assistance and what not. Of course that is also HER expenses but maybe she is not taking that into consideration because maybe she had more money to spend on just HERSELF before June 25th?

Just a theory.. (that doesnt excuse her behaviour.. just trying to understand her and her motives when she says she is only getting $7,000/month)

that's the two possibilities. Koreans went to court to get some part of her allowance - we don't know how much - so either that's reducing the allowance she gets from the estate or she just considers the money she can spent on herself.

Maybe she is taking into consideration on what she can spend on HER FIVE GRANGCHILDREN like entertainment, clothing, personal grooming...etc. And private school costs a lot of money. Some private highschools cost more than public colleges.

Wait what? It's not estate's (or Katherine's) responsibility to pay for any expenses of any of the grandchildren. What are their parents good for?

Hm did anyone else notice that part of the proceeds of sales goes to the 'Heal The World Foundation'?!!!

Is it the fake charity organization that Melissa Johnson set up?

Is that the SAME organization that got shut down by a judge in April 2010?? And if it was shut down, are they still allowed to operate???????

they are not shut down, they just cannot use Michael's name and likeliness. Heal the World is not trademarked and Melissa Johnson has filed documents for a charity - so in other words it's legally an acceptable charity. The issue was with the use of Michael's name, image, likeliness and causing people think that they are donating to "Michael Jackson's Heal the World" - that's a scam.

 

[ivy]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

guys please take the "conspiracy theories" to the appropriate section. This is not the topic that we argue about Branca, the will etc. This thread is about a possible legal showdown between the Estate and Mann.

 

[Kitty10]

"He also told her that a British tabloid was offering him "seven figures" for a "particular item" from the memorabilia locker. Mann declined to identify the item or the publication but said it was clear the paper's goal was to smear Jackson's memory.

At the family's request, he destroyed the item and returned a box of other personal items to the family."


That could explain a lot.

 

[Thrill]

I will never understand some fans and even the Jackson family's accusations that Branca might end up selling the catalogue, umm have they all forgot Randy Jacksons attempts to sell it during trial???? Why are they bitching about it when MJs own brother wanted to sell it back then? Imagine the cut he would make for that deal as well.

 

[StaceyMJ]

Thread cleaned. Bickering needs to stop. You can discuss things without attacking each other can't you? Good grief it's ridiculous and very unbecoming to read.

If it's conspiracy, take it to the conspiracy section. If you need the password PM me, there is no need for it to be in this forum. Just think before posting.

 

[pug]

Did Howard Mann ever have a business relationship with Michael Jackson and was it successful?

 

[MJStorm]

I will never understand some fans and even the Jackson family's accusations that Branca might end up selling the catalogue, umm have they all forgot Randy Jacksons attempts to sell it during trial???? Why are they bitching about it when MJs own brother wanted to sell it back then? Imagine the cut he would make for that deal as well.

Some fans have selective memory. As fans, it could not happen. I do not trust the Estate. But the Jacksons are worse.