MJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

[elusive moonwalker]

so far from what i read, this new business parter isn't a rotten apple.

then u need to read alot more instead of ignorning the facts cause it doesnt suit your agenda

will never understand some fans and even the Jackson family's accusations that Branca might end up selling the catalogue, umm have they all forgot Randy Jacksons attempts to sell it during trial???? Why are they bitching about it when MJs own brother wanted to sell it back then? Imagine the cut he would make for that deal as well.

i guess its ok if a family members screws u over after all its keeping the money in the family

Did Howard Mann ever have a business relationship with Michael Jackson and was it successful?

dont think so. he only came on the scene cause he bought things off vacarro.who had gained them through the lawsuit but refused to hand back mjs and others things. he sold them onto mann after a court order was made so he had an excuse saying he didint own them anymore

 

[twinklEE]

Did Howard Mann ever have a business relationship with Michael Jackson and was it successful?

Michael Jackson had no relations whatsoever to this porn producer.

 

[Memefan]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

Or they have just found a. Way to challenge those evils lot,
We MJ fan must not support any of those item they are trying to sell outside of MJ estate.

Exactly. The estate might have their hands tied..but we should not invest our hard earned cash in these Howard Mann- spearheaded ventures.

"He also told her that a British tabloid was offering him "seven figures" for a "particular item" from the memorabilia locker. Mann declined to identify the item or the publication but said it was clear the paper's goal was to smear Jackson's memory.

At the family's request, he destroyed the item and returned a box of other personal items to the family."


That could explain a lot.

This is most probably a lie. 1st, during the 2005 trial Vaccaro sent many many items to Sneddon to use against MJ.

If there was a so-called bombshell, it would have come out YEARS ago & Vaccaro himself would have sold it for the 7-figure sum.

2nd, this is probably how he scammed Katherine into this mess. Wonder if she ever asked for proof that this item even existed and more proof that it was actually destroyed.

He'd be disgusted at her binding his minor kids to a porn producer, he'd be disgusted at her saying he was a junkie in denial, he'd be disgusted and extremely hurt over her saying his nose was ugly and toothpick thin on television. There was no need for her to do all this, why didn't she talk about her daughters fake boops or Latoya's face and how much she changed, why didn't mention her own fake nose a long with that of her husbands, and all her other children's? What was the point to single out Michael, when she never had the guts to do it while he was alive, u can continue to defend, fact still remains her actions are indefensible, why didn't she go and bind Jermaine's minor kids to that porn producer,
It's fair to say that Michael would be beyond disappointed in a lot of people and one of those people happen to be Katherine Jackson. It's sad to see how wrong he was when it came to her.

Crude is what they're doing, their actions are crude and whatever criticism/disappointment they are encountering, from us and other people, they have to blame no one but themselves.

Nothing else to add

:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

Only one thing is missing: someone to tell Katherine "toothpick nose" Jackson that she must respect her son.

I couldn't agree more

 

[elusive moonwalker]

so i take it thats why schaffel is involved cause he knows mann through the porn films. i thought katherine was a good JW!

 

[Asedora]

I see. My posts about Branca and fake will were deleted as usual. Why we still did not canonize Branca? I think it is time… .

 

[elusive moonwalker]

they were deleted cause thats not what this thread is about. that stuff goes in the conspriacy section

 

[StaceyMJ]

I see. My posts about Branca and fake will were deleted as usual. Why we still did not canonize Branca? I think it is time… .

they were deleted cause thats not what this thread is about. that stuff goes in the conspriacy section

This, and this. It will not be said again.

 

[Kitty10]

@ memefan
"2nd, this is probably how he scammed Katherine into this mess"

That's exactly what I meant. I can't understand that partnership any other way.

 

[rainny]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

This is most probably a lie. 1st, during the 2005 trial Vaccaro sent many many items to Sneddon to use against MJ.

If there was a so-called bombshell, it would have come out YEARS ago & Vaccaro himself would have sold it for the 7-figure sum.

2nd, this is probably how he scammed Katherine into this mess. Wonder if she ever asked for proof that this item even existed and more proof that it was actually distorted.

I find it hard to believe the Jacksons don't know that.

 

[riviera1992]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

I find it hard to believe the Jacksons don't know that.

It seems that there's many facts the Jacksons don't know and don't care to know.

If they'd know everything WE know they'd be so embarassed about their actions.

And how hard is it to do ones own research. Anybody can log on a fan site and find loads of info. There's really no more excuses.

Sorry Michael but your beloved mom did you wrong. :doh:

She's no match for the dark forces out there and I worry about the kids.

 

[StacyJ]

Re: MiJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

It seems that there's many facts the Jacksons don't know and don't care to know.

If they'd know everything WE know they'd be so embarassed about their actions.

And how hard is it to do ones own research. Anybody can log on a fan site and find loads of info. There's really no more excuses.

Sorry Michael but your beloved mom did you wrong. :doh:

She's no match for the dark forces out there and I worry about the kids.

I agree.. it doesn't take much for research but the Jackson family refuses to find out the truth. For one, some family members didn't even read the autopsy report to know what and how MJ died. The only meds in MJ's system were given to him by his doctor, Dr Murray. You would think listening to some members that MJ overdosed on pain meds by himself. Michael was healthy physicially. Yet listening to his family members you would think he had damaged organs from years of drug abuse. If the family would've loved and paid attention to Michael, maybe they would've known the truth, but I don't think they care.

 

[Rasta Pasta]

Katherine has started to scare me.. this deal and putting the kids on Oprah.. oh...its really Joe behind this.. isn't it?

 

[Justthefacts]

She is doing a lot of things that are just puzzling. She sues AEG on behalf of Michael's children but she lets them attend the AEG Christmas lighting concert. I mean WTF

 

[StacyJ]

She is doing a lot of things that are just puzzling. She sues AEG on behalf of Michael's children but she lets them attend the AEG Christmas lighting concert. I mean WTF

quite puzzling

 

[Big Apple2]

I can't believe that Katherine Jackson said "I'm not greedy, like people say. It's need, not greed."

IF she is in such NEED then I would have to ask: "where are all of your OTHER children?" I mean, she basically put them all on blast by making a comment regarding NEED. They should ALL be embarrassed, in my opinion.

Then she says that "Howard has been good to me." Ah, does that included when he tried to FAKE out the fans when he released that song to TMZ, claiming it was new and was a gift FROM Katherine Jackson to Michael's fans. Only to have to turn around and say "Oh Katherine Jackson had nothing to do with the release of that song."

Give me a freakin break! Mann and "Company" will NEVER get a dime of my money, I'll tell you that much.

I will NOT be purchasing any Michael Jackson related items unless they are approved by Michael's OFFICIAL estate. That's the memo Mr. Howard Mann needs to receive, not just from me, but from EVERY Michael Jackson around the world!

 

[Graf]

Yeah...I mean, sorry Katherine but..working with a Snake to get extra $$ when you have more than enough is Greed. Working with a group of people using Michael's image to get money for themselves and you is Greed...She gets PLENTY of $$ from the estate, she doesn't need to do this , yet she does. Sad...Katherine needs get herself and the children away from these Snakes.

I just hope Katherine realizes who she is involved with, these people are no good..I wish her all all the best...

 

[Big Apple2]

Yeah...I mean, sorry Katherine but..working with a Snake to get extra $$ when you have more than enough is Greed. Working with a group of people using Michael's image to get money for themselves and you is Greed...She gets PLENTY of $$ from the estate, she doesn't need to do this , yet she does. Sad...Katherine needs get herself and the children away from these Snakes.

And the real funny thing is her "partner," Howard Mann, the person she is TRYING to portray as being so great, is ONLY giving her 25%, while he get's to keep a whopping 75%.

It's just shows you that although they like to call themselves a "show business family," they have obviously learned NOTHING about showbusiness. Who in their right mind would sign a deal wherein they ONLY received 25%, with some unknown porn guy.

It's like "somebody" offered her a deal, she didn't get any advice from her legal team, she just signed with the first TRINKET salesman that came along. And in my opinion, Howard Mann is nothing more than a "trinket" salesman, flashing something SHINY in Katherine Jackson's face and she just grabbed on, no questions asked.

I'm sure one of the BIG Publishing Houses would have given Katherine a decent deal for her coffee-table book, along with a sizeable advance and PROPER promotion for her book, but no, she signs with the trinket salesman. LOL!

Anyway, that 25% ain't gonna last long, especially when the SecretVault dries up, because NO Michael Jackson fan is willing to support it. I look forward to that day!

 

[Graf]

And the real funny thing is her "partner," Howard Mann, the person she is TRYING to portray as being so great, is ONLY giving her 25%, while he get's to keep a whopping 75%.

It's just shows you that although they like to call themselves a "show business family," they have obviously learned NOTHING about showbusiness. Who in their right mind would sign a deal wherein they ONLY received 25%, with some unknown porn guy.

It's like "somebody" offered her a deal, she didn't get any advice from her legal team, she just signed with the first TRINKET salesman that came along. And in my opinion, Howard Mann is nothing more than a "trinket" salesman, flashing something SHINY in Katherine Jackson's face and she just grabbed on, no questions asked.

I'm sure one of the BIG Publishing Houses would have given Katherine a decent deal for her coffee-table book, along with a sizeable advance and PROPER promotion for her book, but no, she signs with the trinket salesman. LOL!

Anyway, that 25% ain't gonna last long, especially when the SecretVault dries up, because NO Michael Jackson fan is willing to support it. I look forward to that day!

Yeah...I mean...and it is incredibly disappointing that the rest of the family isn't just slamming the hammer down on this whole thing...Like honestly, working with some unknown porn guy...like really?.....I really am lost for for words because I'm dissapointed in everyone involved.. :sigh:

I wish the Jackson family would actually take more initiative on stopping negative things, rather than having to have others pointing them out first.

 

[AngieJ]

Yeah...I mean...and it is incredibly disappointing that the rest of the family isn't just slamming the hammer down on this whole thing...Like honestly, working with some unknown porn guy...like really?.....I really am lost for for words because I'm dissapointed in everyone involved.. :sigh:

I wish the Jackson family would actually take more initiative on stopping negative things, rather than having to have others pointing them out first.

Exactly. The whole thing is just baffling. If she was on her way to making serious money with this guy, maybe I could understand them looking the other way. But like all the other crooks, this nobody isn't going to do anything for her. He's just straight up using her and The Jackson name.

 

[StacyJ]

It's sad that Katherine's adult children aren't watching over her. They are allowing their 80 year old mother to deal with a porn producer. Janet wants us fans to believe that she and others tried to help Mike with his alleged addictions yet she's allowing her 80 year old mother to fend for herself dealing with a crook? why should we believe anything they say considering they are not even trying to protect their own mama. I know good and damn well there wasn't no intervention because now I see they don't even protect their own mother. Where is Jermaine and his 'family unity'?

 

[AngieJ]

It's sad that Katherine's adult children aren't watching over her. They are allowing their 80 year old mother to deal with a porn producer. Janet wants us fans to believe that she and others tried to help Mike with his alleged addictions yet she's allowing her 80 year old mother to fend for herself dealing with a crook? why should we believe anything they say considering they are not even trying to protect their own mama. I know good and damn well there wasn't no intervention because now I see they don't even protect their own mother. Where is Jermaine and his 'family unity'?

I just hate the fact that they're not being called out publicly on this obvious contradiction. There are some who still buy into this "family unity" bs. Obviously this family don't look out for each other.

 

[Big Apple2]

Where is Jermaine and his 'family unity'?

Jermaine is too busy HIDING his income, while trying to revive a dead career. I'm sure what happened in Las Vegas a few months ago was a set back for him. LOL!

Seriously though, I do agree with you regarding the "so-called" interventions. Their momma basically said it's NEED and not greed. So if Katherine Jackson NEEDS anything, where are all of her adult children? She is 80-years old, has all of her bills paid by the estate, get's an allowance and has a bunch of adult children.

In my opinion, at 80-years of age with a bunch of adult children, including one who is a millionare, Katherine Jackson should want for nothing!

 

[StacyJ]

I just hate the fact that they're not being called out publicly on this obvious contradiction. There are some who still buy into this "family unity" bs. Obviously this family don't look out for each other.

Exactly.. it's so obvious

 

[StacyJ]

Jermaine is too busy HIDING his income, while trying to revive a dead career. I'm sure what happened in Las Vegas a few months ago was a set back for him. LOL!

Seriously though, I do agree with you regarding the "so-called" interventions. Their momma basically said it's NEED and not greed. So if Katherine Jackson NEEDS anything, where are all of her adult children? She is 80-years old, has all of her bills paid by the estate, get's an allowance and has a bunch of adult children.

In my opinion, at 80-years of age with a bunch of adult children, including one who is a millionare, Katherine Jackson should want for nothing!

Yes I agree.. At 80 years old Katherine should be chilling not looking for a dime. If she wasn't a Jackson she would be living off of her social security. When she claimed it was 'Need' and not 'greed' I was floored. She is aware that folks are saying she's greedy so I guess she is listening. What I don't understand is why does she 'need' anything if she's getting 7 grand a month and all of her bills are already paid for? She should be able to live high on a hog with 7 grand per month if she doesn't have a mortgage, car note, or utilities to pay.

 

[Big Apple2]

So I was wondering if anybody actually went to the "lithograph" showing Mann held on Friday night? I would love to know how many folks actually turned out for this BOGUS event.

I don't see any news regarding this "event" on any of the MJ fansites I visit. Does anybody know what happened?

 

[StacyJ]

So I was wondering if anybody actually went to the "lithograph" showing Mann held on Friday night? I would love to know how many folks actually turned out for this BOGUS event.

I don't see any news regarding this "event" on any of the MJ fansites I visit. Does anybody know what happened?

I doubt anyone went to that mess. Wasn't Katherine also supposed to be there?

 

[Big Apple2]

I doubt anyone went to that mess. Wasn't Katherine also supposed to be there?

As per the invitation, she was "supposed" to be there, but who knows.

To be honest, I don't believe the SecretVault has that many supporters and it will only get worse from this point on.

And it won't surprise me IF Mann drags Katherine Jackson into court, because their venture failed.

 

[StacyJ]

As per the invitation, she was "supposed" to be there, but who knows.

To be honest, I don't believe the SecretVault has that many supporters and it will only get worse from this point on.

And it won't surprise me IF Mann drags Katherine Jackson into court, because their venture failed.

Yup! I think he will be suing her soon. Her coffee table book flopped and the fans won't support that stuff he's involved with

 

[twinklEE]

And the real funny thing is her "partner," Howard Mann, the person she is TRYING to portray as being so great, is ONLY giving her 25%, while he get's to keep a whopping 75%.

It's just shows you that although they like to call themselves a "show business family," they have obviously learned NOTHING about showbusiness. Who in their right mind would sign a deal wherein they ONLY received 25%, with some unknown porn guy.

It's like "somebody" offered her a deal, she didn't get any advice from her legal team, she just signed with the first TRINKET salesman that came along. And in my opinion, Howard Mann is nothing more than a "trinket" salesman, flashing something SHINY in Katherine Jackson's face and she just grabbed on, no questions asked.

I'm sure one of the BIG Publishing Houses would have given Katherine a decent deal for her coffee-table book, along with a sizeable advance and PROPER promotion for her book, but no, she signs with the trinket salesman. LOL!

Anyway, that 25% ain't gonna last long, especially when the SecretVault dries up, because NO Michael Jackson fan is willing to support it. I look forward to that day!

Amen!

Yeah...I mean...and it is incredibly disappointing that the rest of the family isn't just slamming the hammer down on this whole thing...Like honestly, working with some unknown porn guy...like really?.....I really am lost for for words because I'm dissapointed in everyone involved.. :sigh:

I wish the Jackson family would actually take more initiative on stopping negative things, rather than having to have others pointing them out first.

The Jackson family is busy bitching about money they don't make on Twitter. They ain't got the time to look out for anyone

Jermaine is too busy HIDING his income, while trying to revive a dead career. I'm sure what happened in Las Vegas a few months ago was a set back for him. LOL!

Seriously though, I do agree with you regarding the "so-called" interventions. Their momma basically said it's NEED and not greed. So if Katherine Jackson NEEDS anything, where are all of her adult children? She is 80-years old, has all of her bills paid by the estate, get's an allowance and has a bunch of adult children.

In my opinion, at 80-years of age with a bunch of adult children, including one who is a millionare, Katherine Jackson should want for nothing!

Well some of her adult children and adult grandchildren are busy bitching about money they don't make/get of the new estate project.
And others are busy reviving their dead careers, and believe me hun, Jerm ain't the only one trying to revive something that's long gone. :cheeky:

 

[StacyJ]

Not sure if this was the event over the weekend, but LaToya and her Mom were somewhere together. LaToya even put lipstick on her.


http://www.tmz.com/2010/12/13/katherine-jackson-la-toya-makeup-lipstick-photo/#comments-anchor

La Toya & Katherine Jackson Makeup
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La Toya Jackson played the role of the good daughter and applied makeup on her birth mother Katherine Jackson this weekend.


La Toya likes to give her mom some lip.