MJ Estate Sends a Cease and Desist Letter to Katherine's Business Partner

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I think this has not yet been posted, it's from December 11. What a douchebag...

KJ's Biz Partner: Estate Doesn't Care About MJ's Kids

12/11/2010 8:30 AM PST by TMZ Staff

The man doing business with Katherine Jackson just thumbed his nose -- BIGTIME -- at the Michael Jackson Estate ... essentially saying they're just a bunch of lawyers who don't care about MJ's kids.

Last night Howard Mann slammed the Estate for the suggestion it's more invested in helping MJ's children than he and Katherine -- saying, "I would ask if the Estate has ever met those children, ever spoken to those children. To me it's a farce that they care about what happens to those children."

Mann was In Beverly Hills ... outside the "Unveiling of the Jackson Secret Vault Lithographic Collection" -- his ongoing business venture with Katherine -- and an event that prompted MJ's Estate to fire off a cease and desist letter.

Link: http://www.tmz.com/2010/12/11/micha...rd-mann-cease-and-desist-jackson-secret-vault

There is a video on TMZ website.
 
It's sad that Katherine's adult children aren't watching over her. They are allowing their 80 year old mother to deal with a porn producer. Janet wants us fans to believe that she and others tried to help Mike with his alleged addictions yet she's allowing her 80 year old mother to fend for herself dealing with a crook? why should we believe anything they say considering they are not even trying to protect their own mama. I know good and damn well there wasn't no intervention because now I see they don't even protect their own mother. Where is Jermaine and his 'family unity'?

You are right there, they also need to get a handle on their father who isn't in his right mind. I believe people are whispering in both of their ears & taking advantage of them both.
 
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You are right there, they also need to get a handle on their father who isn't in his right mind. I believe people are whispering in both of their ears & taking advantage of them both.



Joe is out of control.. They don't have any control over him. The fact that he still has Brian Oxman as his attorney proves to me that his children don't care what he does.
 
the siblings dont care cause at the end of the say any money made is used by those who are around ie jerm randy etc. they wont bite the hand that feeds them and just shows how its all about money even if it means their beloved mother being used by dodgy ppl
 
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What I want to know is who brought Katherine and Mann together in the first place..?

"My mother's wonderful. To me, she's perfection." - MJ

I don't think he'd be happy about his kids being in a contract with a porn guy though! Do you?
 
What I want to know is who brought Katherine and Mann together in the first place..?
mann bought the items from the lockup off vaccaro. imo mann then went to katherine to try and do business.ie work with me and ill give u some of your stuff back. mann is also invovled with schaffel
 
I would love to know HOW MANY people actually purchase stuff from the "SecretVault."

To be honest, aside from WE MJ fansite dwellers, I'm not even sure many folks know about it.

I'd also like to know how many copies of Katherine Jackson's book has been sold to date. All of this stuff going on, I wonder IF ($$$) it was worth it in the long run.
 
I would love to know HOW MANY people actually purchase stuff from the "SecretVault."

To be honest, aside from WE MJ fansite dwellers, I'm not even sure many folks know about it.

I'd also like to know how many copies of Katherine Jackson's book has been sold to date. All of this stuff going on, I wonder IF ($$$) it was worth it in the long run.

I would like to know it too.
 
I would love to know HOW MANY people actually purchase stuff from the "SecretVault."

To be honest, aside from WE MJ fansite dwellers, I'm not even sure many folks know about it.

I'd also like to know how many copies of Katherine Jackson's book has been sold to date. All of this stuff going on, I wonder IF ($$$) it was worth it in the long run.

What is there to know? Obviously this venture has been a huge flop. No venture can succeed without support and publicity. Before Oprah, the book was mainly promoted through TMZ. Remember those videos of Katherine? This whole venture has been nothing but a joke.
 
What is there to know? Obviously this venture has been a huge flop. No venture can succeed without support and publicity. Before Oprah, the book was mainly promoted through TMZ. Remember those videos of Katherine? This whole venture has been nothing but a joke.



exactly a big joke and Katherine sold out her grandchildren for it
 
OK this is my first time sitting down and reading this story about Mann and the estate and I have something to say. Mrs Jackson how dare you. The estate of Michael Jackson has paid off your home and is paying the expenses for the home and is also paying for the home to be renovated and you still need more? You say you should be getting more are you serious? But you say you are not greedy. Well I have to disagree with that
 
I am just wondering why $26,000 a month is NOT enough for Katherine. EVERYTHING is paid for. Even if she ONLY has $7,000-$8,000 left in CASH monthly, why isn't that enough? Let's not forget that Prince, Paris and Blanket get an ADDITIONAL $60,000 a month to take care of their needs. I am pretty sure that their schooling does not come from that amount. The MAIN question is did Michael have to shell out MORE than this to Katherine when he was alive? If so, is it any wonder that he had so many pressure on him? It makes no sense to me that Michael was the only one EXPECTED to take care of EVERYONE in that family-including brothers, nieces, nephews, sister-in-laws, etc. Where the hell does Janet come into this? She is rich enough to have taken the burden off of Michael and helped support, at least, Katherine and Joe. It is not her job to support her brothers and their off-springs. Just as it was NOT Michael's job to do so. Of course, we know that Michael was too kind and generous to sit back and allow his family to go without food, clothing and other essentials and he helped support ALL of them. Again, it is time for Janet to step up to the plate and offer Katherine the EXTRA money that she needs.
 
I am just wondering why $26,000 a month is NOT enough for Katherine. EVERYTHING is paid for. Even if she ONLY has $7,000-$8,000 left in CASH monthly, why isn't that enough? Let's not forget that Prince, Paris and Blanket get an ADDITIONAL $60,000 a month to take care of their needs. I am pretty sure that their schooling does not come from that amount. The MAIN question is did Michael have to shell out MORE than this to Katherine when he was alive? If so, is it any wonder that he had so many pressure on him? It makes no sense to me that Michael was the only one EXPECTED to take care of EVERYONE in that family-including brothers, nieces, nephews, sister-in-laws, etc. Where the hell does Janet come into this? She is rich enough to have taken the burden off of Michael and helped support, at least, Katherine and Joe. It is not her job to support her brothers and their off-springs. Just as it was NOT Michael's job to do so. Of course, we know that Michael was too kind and generous to sit back and allow his family to go without food, clothing and other essentials and he helped support ALL of them. Again, it is time for Janet to step up to the plate and offer Katherine the EXTRA money that she needs.
c'mon now we all know our good ole janet ,she been busy with her life since she left that house .she comes in pic when her brother randy needs her in his intervention stories.
ohh boy that girl has change a lot for sure.
and as far for stepping up she is also busy reviving her career like good ole jermaine.
 
All of the "real needs" of Katherine Jackson and the needs of Michael Jackson's children are being well taken care of by the Michael Jackson Estate.

Katherine's husband (Joe) or adult children (e.g. Janet Jackson) should volunteer to help her with her other "none essential" money needs.
 
All of the "real needs" of Katherine Jackson and the needs of Michael Jackson's children are being well taken care of by the Michael Jackson Estate.

Katherine's husband (Joe) or adult children (e.g. Janet Jackson) should volunteer to help her with her other "none essential" money needs.

:lol: u r killing me.
 
Joe is out of control.. They don't have any control over him. The fact that he still has Brian Oxman as his attorney proves to me that his children don't care what he does.

its not that they dont care, joe has a mind of his own. so you mean to tell me that when mj was alive and joe was doing the same kind of stuff, you sai mj doesnt care about his parents?!?!? you dont know what goes on in their family so dont blame the family for not caring. i just think joe is gonna do what he wants to, no matter what anyone says
 
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What I want to know is who brought Katherine and Mann together in the first place..?



I don't think he'd be happy about his kids being in a contract with a porn guy though! Do you?

it think so either. i her n joseph would take more caution with their associates but its not like things like this just stated happening after mj died either.
 
I am just wondering why $26,000 a month is NOT enough for Katherine. EVERYTHING is paid for. Even if she ONLY has $7,000-$8,000 left in CASH monthly, why isn't that enough? Let's not forget that Prince, Paris and Blanket get an ADDITIONAL $60,000 a month to take care of their needs. I am pretty sure that their schooling does not come from that amount. The MAIN question is did Michael have to shell out MORE than this to Katherine when he was alive? If so, is it any wonder that he had so many pressure on him? It makes no sense to me that Michael was the only one EXPECTED to take care of EVERYONE in that family-including brothers, nieces, nephews, sister-in-laws, etc. Where the hell does Janet come into this? She is rich enough to have taken the burden off of Michael and helped support, at least, Katherine and Joe. It is not her job to support her brothers and their off-springs. Just as it was NOT Michael's job to do so. Of course, we know that Michael was too kind and generous to sit back and allow his family to go without food, clothing and other essentials and he helped support ALL of them. Again, it is time for Janet to step up to the plate and offer Katherine the EXTRA money that she needs.

i think the estate is paying for everything. i dont think they necessairly give her a budget of 26,000 monthly, they just pay all the bills then they give her like 7000 monthly.
Also I dont know where you get the info that janet doesnt help. she does help. she may not shell out money like mike did and thats her business n her money not ours. but im very sure she helped out family. i remember off of one of her albums she gave marlon and her dad a certain %. also on her divorce papers her monthly income had rebbie n her husband n marlon listed. n shes probably paid for college n other expenses also. i remember reading a story awhile back that said she was helping katherine fill in the holes. who are we to say she doesnt help??
 
c'mon now we all know our good ole janet ,she been busy with her life since she left that house .she comes in pic when her brother randy needs her in his intervention stories.
ohh boy that girl has change a lot for sure.
and as far for stepping up she is also busy reviving her career like good ole jermaine.

i understand you dont like the family n thats fine, but dont try to act like she hasnt had a career, she has. also its their money. how they spend it and what they do with it is none of our business. I think many of us have more of a problem with mj supporting the family than he did. I think if he didnt want to support them then he wouldnt have done so.
 
i think the estate is paying for everything. i dont think they necessairly give her a budget of 26,000 monthly, they just pay all the bills then they give her like 7000 monthly.
You're in severe need of reading the court documents, b/c according to the court documents she DOES get 26k DESPITE of all the bills being taken care of by the estate. I believe she is left with $7000 only after giving money to those unemployed children who're in their upper middle years and grown grandchildren. But that is not the estate's business, as it wasn't created to look after a whole 'tribe' but only three minor children.
 
You're in severe need of reading the court documents, b/c according to the court documents she DOES get 26k DESPITE of all the bills being taken care of by the estate. I believe she is left with $7000 only after giving money to those unemployed children who're in their upper middle years and grown grandchildren. But that is not the estate's business, as it wasn't created to look after a whole 'tribe' but only three minor children.

i know it says she recieves 26000 monthly. but y would she go to court and say the estate ONLY GIVES HER 7-8000 MONTHLY. she didnt say that she recieves 26000 and after bills she is left with 7-8000, she said that all she recieves. also if thats not true the estate would have said we give her 26000 and then she only has 7-8000 left for some reason. they could have shut that up as soon as it started. but i dunno
 
I don't think she went to court and said the estate gives her 7000. She said it to the media.

okay. cause i do remember the document saying she got 26000 monthly. i was thinking maybe they stopped giving her so much because they pay everything. i really dunno
 
I believe she is left with $7000 only after giving money to those unemployed children who're in their upper middle years and grown grandchildren.

You know it's a VERY said state, when your 80-year old mother and/or grandmother has to continue to dole out money to "several" of her adult children (and their children) when it should be the OTHER way around.

She should be living in the lap of luxury because of THEM and not worrying about how she can continue to earn a few more dollars from that "porn" guy so that certain family members can continue live ABOVE their means.
 
You know it's a VERY said state, when your 80-year old mother and/or grandmother has to continue to dole out money to "several" of her adult children (and their children) when it should be the OTHER way around.

She should be living in the lap of luxury because of THEM and not worrying about how she can continue to earn a few more dollars from that "porn" guy so that certain family members can continue live ABOVE their means.

very true.. and if MJ was still living today she along with Joe would be scheming for MJ to do something to 'help' the family once again. I guess Allgood would still be hounding MJ along with Katherine and Joe to do the family concert
 
You know it's a VERY said state, when your 80-year old mother and/or grandmother has to continue to dole out money to "several" of her adult children (and their children) when it should be the OTHER way around.

She should be living in the lap of luxury because of THEM and not worrying about how she can continue to earn a few more dollars from that "porn" guy so that certain family members can continue live ABOVE their means.

i agree.. im nt sure which kids revieve money from her though. i think most of the money may go to the grandkids. -janet has her own money of course. -toya... say what you want abt her but she is well off. between making appearances n doin endorsemsnts in foreign countries, she's straight. -marlon is in real estate and does things in africa. -tito has his own band. -rebbie husband is in business from what i read on here..-randy, jackie n jermaine i dunno. i kno jermaine is in the middle east alot, so somebody could be giving him work over there. randy had tht red porche before mj died so he had to get money from somewhere. n frm wht they say the bills werent even being paid at hayvenhurst, so kathernine couldnt have been giving him anything. not tht its none of my business anyway.

i would also like 2 ask, can the estate make katherine end the contract with mann??? or will they just sue him for using mjs name n in the end he would have to end it cause he would be broke???
 
i agree.. im nt sure which kids revieve money from her though. i think most of the money may go to the grandkids. -janet has her own money of course. -toya... say what you want abt her but she is well off. between making appearances n doin endorsemsnts in foreign countries, she's straight. -marlon is in real estate and does things in africa. -tito has his own band. -rebbie husband is in business from what i read on here..-randy, jackie n jermaine i dunno. i kno jermaine is in the middle east alot, so somebody could be giving him work over there. randy had tht red porche before mj died so he had to get money from somewhere. n frm wht they say the bills werent even being paid at hayvenhurst, so kathernine couldnt have been giving him anything. not tht its none of my business anyway.

i would also like 2 ask, can the estate make katherine end the contract with mann??? or will they just sue him for using mjs name n in the end he would have to end it cause he would be broke???

I don't believe the estate has the authority to MAKE Katherine Jackson do anything. Their only recourse is to sue Mann and/or have Bravado sue Mann for "trying" to sell anything that has MJ's likeness on it.

In my opinion, Katherine Jackson is not just "helping" certain members of her family. (I think it's normal to help folks in the family, IF you can, to a certain degree.) To ME, it just looks like not only is Katherine helping some family members, she is helping them to live like they lived when the Jackson-5 were a hot group and the money was rolling in.

I'm sure that's one of the reasons she wanted Michael to join his brothers on stage again. She was trying to capture the good old days of glory & PLENTY OF MONEY.

I'm sure life was swell back then, but times have changed and the surviving members of the J5 don't have money rolling in like they did back in the day. Folks want to ride around in fancy cars and live in fancy homes, but just don't have the dough to do so, WITHOUT Big Momma's help.

Folks living ABOVE their means, what's gonna happen when Big Momma ain't there to pick-up the slack anymore?
 
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