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MJJC Exclusive Q&A with Dr. Steve Shafer - Read his answers

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Thanks to all that brought this interview to us. Dr. Shafer is really kind to have done this; I don't think many people in his position would have done so to this extent. It seems as if he gets what is important in this case and why it is important for people to have as much answered as possible.

The thing that most stood out to me in part one was his comments about how the record keeping could have saved Michael's life. I remember how many people would gloss over that in discussions about this case. The way that he explained it does make you feel that such a routine thing could have saved Michael. It was like Michael wasn't even being treated like a real patient, in my opinion.
 
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Thank you ivy and Dr. Shafer. A true man of integrity.
 
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What a wonderful guy. :D Not surprised the media didn't want to air his interview. :smilerolleyes: Thanks again. :)
 
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Very intelligent and insightful answers from a gracious man!
 
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I'm convinced Dr. Shafer is an angel :D
 
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The only question which is left after all:
How much time a day does he sleep and does he sleep sometimes at all..? :scratch:
 
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thanks to Dr Shafer and Ivy for this - amazing!
 
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What a kind man ... It's amazing, I don't know what to say.. It's great to see there are still people like him.
 
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Wow I loved reading the first part he really took the time to answer the questions!

ivy said:
probably he didn't get the reference (as he said he's only knowledgeable about Thriller album) and thought that we are a bunch of crazies :p
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Lol @ he thinks we are a bunch of crazies :rofl:
 
This part kind of disappointed me:
MJJC: Can Dr. Shafer render an opinion on the chronic condition of Michael’s lungs (respiratory bronchiolitis, multifocal chronic interstitial pneumonitis, chronic inflammation)? Some TV doctor (Dr. Drew) alleged that it could be due to continuous/long term Propofol use. However MJ is known to have Pleurisy at 1977 and reported to say “he had a blister on his lungs” in later years. Could it be caused by the Propofol or could it be related to his Lupus?

Dr. Steve Shafer: Propofol is commonly used for infusions in intensive care units. I am not aware of any primary effect of propofol on the lungs. However, because Michael Jackson’s trachea (windpipe) was not protected while he was receiving propofol, he could have regularly inhaled small amounts of saliva or regurgitated stomach contents while anesthetized from propofol. That can damage the lungs and produce chronic inflammation.
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I was hoping to get an answer that we could slap Dr. Drew across the face with, I'm sick of him and all of his sensationalistic stories. As a man of science, I understand that Dr. Shafer has to keep his mind open to all possibilities but I would love to see someone as accomplished as he is call Drew Pinsky a quack (of course he's far too professional to do such a thing but I can still dream lol).
 
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Dr. Shafer is an amazing human being and I can't put the gratitude I have for him into words. All I can say is that Dr. Shafer was one of the key factors in getting Murray's ass convicted, and for that alone I could bow down in front of him a million times, and it still wouldn't be enough.
 
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Id like to know if theres anywhere we can watch the talk he gave about the case that he mentiond in the q&a
 
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I dont think this man even has the slightest idea how grateful we are and how much what they did means to us.
 
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i love him. I just love him.

Reading his answers at 6:30AM is just bliss. How I wish MJ had met Dr Schafer instead of Dr Death.

What a class act. I just adore the guy.
 
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IVY, thank you:) and huge thanks for everything to Dr. Steve Shafer!:)
 
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The Brown Gangsta said:
This part kind of disappointed me:


I was hoping to get an answer that we could slap Dr. Drew across the face with, I'm sick of him and all of his sensationalistic stories. As a man of science, I understand that Dr. Shafer has to keep his mind open to all possibilities but I would love to see someone as accomplished as he is call Drew Pinsky a quack (of course he's far too professional to do such a thing but I can still dream lol).
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well he can't create answers that would please us. Also as far as I understand even if it was due to propofol, it was due to improper giving of it.
 
ivy said:
well he can't create answers that would please us. Also as far as I understand even if it was due to propofol, it was due to improper giving of it.
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Sorry, I didn't mean for it to come across as an attack on Dr. Shafer. I was just venting from my frustrations many of the unfounded claims that Dr. Drew has been selling as the absolute truth. If anything, the hostility in the post was meant for Drew not Dr. Shafer.
 
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WOW, Thanks to Gaz and Ivy for this PRO Q & A :clapping:
I just wanted to express my gratitude again to Dr Shafer :D
He brought me CLOSURE...
He showed me that GREAT Docs still exist and only a 'minority' are "quaks"...
He RESTORED my confidence in Docs...

I do WISH Michael had met Dr. Shafer FIRST instead of Murray... :beee:
I found it a pity that I don't live in the US as I would certainly TRUST you, Dr. Shafer, as my Doctor :angel:

I do have ONE more question :blush: ...
WHY did Michael NEED all those IV meds at night??? Maybe, for his lupus or his 'current' medical condition.... Something I always wonder about is...
WHY Propofol ????? I know what it does... its WONDERFUL for OP's but ARGH, NOT as a "sleep aid" hey...

I still WISH there was a way we could have SAVED Michael...
Gone much too soon and NO ONE 'protected' him...
 
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You know Michael had had issues with this lungs for years. So why do you even care about what Drew says ESP since you know already
 
God bless Dr.Shafer! He truly is amazing!

I had sent to him a small note thanking him(on behalf of all of us) for all that he did so justice could be served. He was so kind to send a reply thanking me in return(what a man!) and I hope he won't mind my sharing that letter here.

here-

Dear Ankita:</SPAN>

It is very nice to hear from you. I appreciate your kind thoughts.</SPAN>

I was honored, and humbled, to have an opportunity to explain to a jury the fundamental principle of medicine: doctors put patients first. I believe the jury understood this message and reached the correct conclusion.</SPAN>

I am grateful to the many Michael Jackson fans who have contacted me since the trial. I think that not knowing what happened on June 25, 2009 has caused a lot of pain within the Michael Jackson community. It is my hope that by explaining what happened that day I have brought some closure to their loss.</SPAN>

I grew up listening to Michael Jackson’s music (who didn’t”). However, I knew little of Michael Jackson prior to the case, other than that he wrote great dance and party music. I’ve learned more about Michael Jackson, his life, his ideals, and his music since the trial. I understand how he has become such an important influence in the lives of millions of fans. With the end of the trial, and the conviction of Conrad Murray, it is my hope that his fans can return to the joy of his life, his music, and his legacy. </SPAN>

Again, thank you for the kind words.</SPAN>

Sincerely,</SPAN>

Steve Shafer

******

and another-</SPAN>Dear Ankita:</SPAN>

I have read the article, and it is very moving. Thank you for sharing it!</SPAN>

I will continue to read about the life of Michael Jackson, and learn about this remarkable, brilliant, talented, and complex man. I will also spend more time studying his music, and his lyrics. As mentioned, I knew little about Michael Jackson, and enjoyed but had not studied his music, at the time of the trial. I intentionally kept it that way, so that I could see him only as a patient.</SPAN>

Again, I appreciate your sharing this with me.</SPAN>

Sincerely,</SPAN>

Steve Shafer

I know he's a busy man, so I wrote to him only twice and he was so kind to reply, and now our 86 questions! Thank you Dr. Shafer!</SPAN>
 
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Do you think Dr. Shafer would be comfortable with sharing his class notes/ppt from his lecture on "the role of clinical pharmacology in the trial of Conrad Murray"?

Some schools are sensitive about sharing course materials with people that aren't currently enrolled students but I think it would be an interesting read
 
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Wow, I'm impressed!! All 86 questions and from what I can see, answering them in full, not half-hearted cut n paste type. This man is awesome! Thank you some much Dr Shaffer for taking your precious time to write back to us. I just want to say that I am sorry for your lost.

I am currently re-reading Frank Cascio's book, My Friend Michael when I came upon this thread, reading that Dr Shaffer is from New Jersey and he does not know much about Michael Jackson, probably other than what is offered by the media, this crazy image painted of Michael as the icon, King of Pop. I suddenly have this crazy idea - the Cascio's are also from New Jersey and perhaps it could help Dr Shaffer to understand Michael the man better if he gets to read the book. The book also put into context why Michael is using the drugs to cope with some difficult time in his life and how he also go thru with the help of another doctor from Florida to get rid of the drugs usage. The other good book will be "The man in the Music" by Joe Vogel. Since he is trying to read up and understand more of Michael, we should perhaps guide him to the right channel instead of ending up reading rubbish stuff like Halprin or Diane Diamond. What do you think Ivy?
 
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Daryll748, your so kind and moving words made me cry... :cry:
Thank you for my tears..
 
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Vinter said:
Daryll748, your so kind and moving words made me cry... :cry:
Thank you for my tears..
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Oh Vinter :better: I didn't mean to make you :cry:
Just my :2cents:here...

Indeed, I have 'closure' because of Dr. Shafer, DA Mr Walgren and Judge Michael Pastor but that doesn't mean I'm fine... I still MISS Michael 'terribly' and I kinda 'blocked' all these stuff cause I need to 'live' and make Michael PROUD...
Anyway, Its ever so sweet of Dr. Shafer to HELP us UNDERSTAND what happened in these 'fatal' moments...
 
MJJC: Since your father passed away during the trial, was it hard to do the testimony? (and please accept our most sincere condolences for your loss)

Dr. Steve Shafer: I’ve shared with some members of the MJJCommunity my personal story about my father’s passing.
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Well, one of them was me but it's too personal story so I should not have posted it here in such details. It was just so similar with my grandmother's death..
 
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Daryll748 said:
Oh Vinter :better: I didn't mean to make you :cry:
Just my :2cents:here...

Indeed, I have 'closure' because of Dr. Shafer, DA Mr Walgren and Judge Michael Pastor but that doesn't mean I'm fine... I still MISS Michael 'terribly' and I kinda 'blocked' all these stuff cause I need to 'live' and make Michael PROUD...
Anyway, Its ever so sweet of Dr. Shafer to HELP us UNDERSTAND what happened in these 'fatal' moments...
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I know, you didn't.. they [words] just touched my heart very much so it was emotional.. and thank you for this!

Yeah, just quoting his brilliant words which he wrote to me in reply (I so agree with him):
"It is important when dealing with a tragic loss to understand how it happened.
Not knowing can be as painful as the loss itself".
 
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HumanNature2210 said:
Wow, I'm impressed!! All 86 questions and from what I can see, answering them in full, not half-hearted cut n paste type. This man is awesome! Thank you some much Dr Shaffer for taking your precious time to write back to us. I just want to say that I am sorry for your lost.

I am currently re-reading Frank Cascio's book, My Friend Michael when I came upon this thread, reading that Dr Shaffer is from New Jersey and he does not know much about Michael Jackson, probably other than what is offered by the media, this crazy image painted of Michael as the icon, King of Pop. I suddenly have this crazy idea - the Cascio's are also from New Jersey and perhaps it could help Dr Shaffer to understand Michael the man better if he gets to read the book. The book also put into context why Michael is using the drugs to cope with some difficult time in his life and how he also go thru with the help of another doctor from Florida to get rid of the drugs usage. The other good book will be "The man in the Music" by Joe Vogel. Since he is trying to read up and understand more of Michael, we should perhaps guide him to the right channel instead of ending up reading rubbish stuff like Halprin or Diane Diamond. What do you think Ivy?
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I'm very sure that with the wisdom, integrity and sense of innate justice Dr. Shafer has, never in a million years will he end up reading OR believing the absolute crap written about Michael by scums like DD or Halprin. He is beginning to learn about Michael from Michael himself-through his music, his videos, his words, his philanthropy and the absolute, unconditional love, respect, admiration we-his fans have for him and for his message. THIS is how he's learning to know who Michael really was and I know we have nothing to worry about because THIS is the BEST way!
 
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Thank you for this.
 
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