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Murray Trial - 30 September - Day 4 - Discussion

medics didnt give it. medics dont carry it. ie it was in the house already he never heard murray say i gave mj lidocane same with profopol or anything other drug
 
he says he never heard murray say theres a pulse. so we go back to the prelim hearing where he said the opposite. now he remembers and says murray said i found a pulse
 
murray took control after ucla said they should call it.
 
he says he saw murray putting the lidocaine bottles in a black bag
says he never saw the lidocaine bottles again after murray putting them away
 
saw murray pick up the lidocane bottles and put them in a black bagd

did he say anything else about murray picking up the bottles as my connection went for a minute
 
says michael;s condition didn;t change on the way to ucla,
says he saw murray on the phone, says he heard murray say 'its about michale and it doesnt look good' says he heard part of murrays conversation
 
Said Murray was on the phone and heard him say "It's about Michael, it doesn't look good."

Does not know whom Murray was talking to
 
saw murray on the phone talking in the ambulance said its about michael and it doesnt look good (he was on the phone to icole alverez his girlfriend my words not the medics.) he didnt know who murray was talking to
 
blunt says jackson had condom catheter!!!! YES, THIS HELPS ALBERTO!!! since Senoff did not see this.
 
murray claimed mciahel was down for only a minute when they arrived
says michael wore a condom catheter
says michael's temparatur was warm on the bed but cool on the floor
 
Murray said MJ was down for 1 minutes which didnt make sense to paramedic given his condition
 
had a condom catherter on.

murray said hes been down for one minute! skin warm in the bed but cold when mj was on the floor. mjs physical condition did not support the one minute theory according to the medic.

15-20 min break
 
Paramedic Blount states that Murray told him that Michael had been down for 1 minute before they arrived.

Martin Blount doesn't agree with this, due to the condition Michael was in.

Mid-Afternoon Break is now.
 
Murray said he was down for 1 minute? Ugh.

Just exactly how long had Michael been gone before Murray did anything? An hour or more? :(
 
the reason way the condom catheter being ON Mike is uber important! defense will try to say mj was running around the room pooping pills when Murray was out of the room, that would almost be imposibole if Mike had the catheter. I was really nervous when senoff did not testify to this, but since Blunt also said he saw the catheter he has saved Albertos testimony and the bed confussion will not be as important, can be explained away as an honest mistake from either alberto or senoff
 
it's really weird to know that Murray was touching michael's groin area pretending to find a pulse.
 
yeah the condom is importnat it shows that murray was giving mj prolonged sleep.
 
Back to the other emt for a second. The guy asked him if you have proper blood flow and the right amount of compression does it matter if you do CPR on a bed the emt said no. The emt was right to say yes but the point is you can't do CPR on a bed because try all you want you can't get those things
 
plus the jug full of urine on the side of the bed unless murray is gonna say that jug was sat ther for 3 days.so mj must have been under alot through the night as i think it was pretty full. things like this i want the pros to bring out and make a big deal of. i guess it will be later but im inpaitent
 
hey, i just remembered one thing. diden´t walgren speak about there being urine in a seperate bag/location from the catheter during opening statement. that would be more evidence that Mike had been "asleep" for much longer than conrad say. cuz murray would have emptied the content from condom catehter so mj could continue to relive himself without waking up. anyone remember?
 
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