The 1993 case. [Threads merged, All discussion in this one thread]

I don't know. Didn't Jordan said to Anthony Pellicano that all he was doing with his father was sit down in front of the computer to write script? Pelicano make it seems like he was annoyed by it, could be his interpretation tho..

And how do you know Jordan became friendly with his mother again after her testimony? didn't she testified at the grand jury hearing in 94 against Michael as well? so why now it is sure??

Also i didn't read the interview jordan gave to the psychiatric? do you know how many specialists he saw?? so stanley katz wasn't the only one? who was the one that gave the letter to Evan chandler that said it is possible child abuse happened? (the one talked about in MAry Fisher article?

Jordan became friendly with her after 2005 .

he first saw Dr. Abrams he was the one who reported the abuse , he later was interviewed after the arrest in 2003 and admitted jordan only met him once, he came told him everything and left , he had no idea whether he was telling the truth .

Feldman had a business relationship with Katz , he sent jordan to him he told him the same story , and katz was another expert who was going to testify in a civil case against jackson .

another one was the doctor from new york who was very prominent expert on FALSE sexual allegations by children , the interview was recorded , the recordings were everywhere after the Bashit documentary and jordan was very CONVINCING , it was not just a transcript , it was an audio tape of him talking .
the expert said he believed jordan was telling the truth .

that was feldman's strategy send the boy to as many experts as possible and get as much reports as they could and throw them in jackson's face and see how could he defend himself . that one expert from new york was one of the most reliable experts who were used by defense lawyers to refute allegations of sexual abuse by children , jordan met him and told him his story so the defense would not been allowed to call him as an expert on false allegations brought by children , you can only imagine the number of other experts who met jordan inorder to prevent them from testifying at a trial in jackson's defence . Feldman was a fox , and jonny cochran helped him big time .

those three are the experts we were aware of , god knows who esle saw jordan .
 
you remember when mj told Gavin on bashit documentary "if you love me you will do this " Jordan said the exact same words to the doctor he told him " when i refused to do that he would cry and say if you love me you will do this " the exact same words , that's one example , it actually proves Evan was not acting alone , jordan did give his father alot of information , details that only he was aware of ., evan did not write that script alone , jordan helped him frame mj . jordan was a very willing part in evan's plan to bring mj down for the reasons i listed before . he felt his days were numbered with mj, he woould sooner or later gave him the boot , so he supported his father , he believed he father would be always there for him while mj was only using him .
 
Soundmind, thank you for your explanations.

Is it possible to find that interview with the New York expert (audio or transcripts ) ?

Did this expert testify ?
 
Why are we even bringing up/talking bout this shit?

simple; because we want to know as much as possible! It's easy to be misinformed when it comes to mj, you see how the haters are. If we know more about these things it gets easier to defend him! not only that, but it confrims your beliefs that he was innocent.
I think if people have questions about this they should be allowed to ask! It shouldn't be shoved away, the more people that know the truth the better :)
 
Jordan became friendly with her after 2005 .

he first saw Dr. Abrams he was the one who reported the abuse , he later was interviewed after the arrest in 2003 and admitted jordan only met him once, he came told him everything and left , he had no idea whether he was telling the truth .

Feldman had a business relationship with Katz , he sent jordan to him he told him the same story , and katz was another expert who was going to testify in a civil case against jackson .

another one was the doctor from new york who was very prominent expert on FALSE sexual allegations by children , the interview was recorded , the recordings were everywhere after the Bashit documentary and jordan was very CONVINCING , it was not just a transcript , it was an audio tape of him talking .
the expert said he believed jordan was telling the truth .

that was feldman's strategy send the boy to as many experts as possible and get as much reports as they could and throw them in jackson's face and see how could he defend himself . that one expert from new york was one of the most reliable experts who were used by defense lawyers to refute allegations of sexual abuse by children , jordan met him and told him his story so the defense would not been allowed to call him as an expert on false allegations brought by children , you can only imagine the number of other experts who met jordan inorder to prevent them from testifying at a trial in jackson's defence . Feldman was a fox , and jonny cochran helped him big time .

those three are the experts we were aware of , god knows who esle saw jordan .

so basically every experts that Jordan saw they believed him! how come he was convincing? have you heard the tape??
that is terrible that Jordan got friendly with his mother after she testified against MJ because one could argue the reason he didn't talk to her all these years was because she allowed Michael's in Jordan's bed all the time and he kinda blame her and evan was only interested by the money and not the welfare of his child (as he said himseld on the phone with Schwartz) the more I know about this the more i have questions
 
Soundmind, thank you for your explanations.

Is it possible to find that interview with the New York expert (audio or transcripts ) ?

Did this expert testify ?

I don't know where to find it , the expert did not testify , there was no trial and he was not called .
 
so basically every experts that Jordan saw they believed him! how come he was convincing? have you heard the tape??
that is terrible that Jordan got friendly with his mother after she testified against MJ because one could argue the reason he didn't talk to her all these years was because she allowed Michael's in Jordan's bed all the time and he kinda blame her and evan was only interested by the money and not the welfare of his child (as he said himseld on the phone with Schwartz) the more I know about this the more i have questions

no not every expert said he believed him , Dr.Abrams the first one said after mj was arrested in 2003 he could not form an opinion in 1993 because basically jordan came and told him his story and left , he had no chance to meet him again , he could not verify whether he was telling the truth or not , he was bound by law to report the case to authorities and he did .

Dr.katz had a financial agreement with Feldman, he is basically part of every lawsuit filed by Feldman , he would write a report that support whatever Fieldsman planed to do . he admitted on the stand in 2005 that he and feldman had a finacial agreement regarding cases and he was one of the experts feldman relied on whenever he filed a case against someone .

the doctor from new york was the one jordan met after along list of law enforcement employees , lawyers , doctors , he became more familiar with the details of the story he co wrote with his father , he did sound very convincing because he used words mj used alot like if you love me you will do this ...etc .

that doctor committed suicide before mj was arrested in 2003 .
 
simple; because we want to know as much as possible! It's easy to be misinformed when it comes to mj, you see how the haters are. If we know more about these things it gets easier to defend him! not only that, but it confrims your beliefs that he was innocent.
I think if people have questions about this they should be allowed to ask! It shouldn't be shoved away, the more people that know the truth the better :)

Yes but at the end of the day why would you want to know more about all the lies?
And you shouldnt need things that are going to make it easier to defend him
True MJ fans dont need any of that and we dont need anything to confirm our beliefs about his Innocence because a true fan doesnt need any,we know that he is.
 
Yes but at the end of the day why would you want to know more about all the lies?
And you shouldnt need things that are going to make it easier to defend him
True MJ fans dont need any of that and we dont need anything to confirm our beliefs about his Innocence because a true fan doesnt need any,we know that he is.

I'm sorry but I don't agree at all. You wanna defend him and inform other people of the truth? you can't do it by simply saying: I know he was innocent cause I'm a fan. It takes fact's!
Besides, we're curious! And what better place to find answers than here? where a lot of people have studied the case, and can tell you the truth instead of the lies the media tries to feed you.
Your beliefs of what makes a true fan are of your own making, I don't agree with them, just cause I'm curious doesn't mean I'm not a true fan.
I've always believed that mj was innocent but I wasn't gonna blindly put my faith in it either, that just goes against my nature.

In any case, the best way to fight the lies against mj is by knowing and telling the truth. :cheeky:
 
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Okay.... anyways, Those tapes of Jordan talking to the new york doctor that killed himself o_O by the way were aired on TV before yrs ago and during the 05 trial as well. I'm sure some of us heard them? I know I know I did! To me he didn't sound credible he sounded rehearsed, using big words that kids just don't use, and he was a little to calm (reading) I mean saying what he was saying!
 
Yes but at the end of the day why would you want to know more about all the lies?
And you shouldnt need things that are going to make it easier to defend him
True MJ fans dont need any of that and we dont need anything to confirm our beliefs about his Innocence because a true fan doesnt need any,we know that he is.

I'm sorry but I don't agree at all. You wanna defend him and inform other people of the truth? you can't do it by simply saying: I know he was innocent cause I'm a fan. It takes fact's!
Besides, we're curious! And what better place to find answers than here? where a lot of people have studied the case, and can tell you the truth instead of the lies the media tries to feed you.
Your beliefs of what makes a true fan are of your own making, I don't agree with them, just cause I'm curious doesn't mean I'm not a true fan.
I've always believed that mj was innocent but I wasn't gonna blindly put my faith in it either, that just goes against my nature.

In any case, the best way to fight the lies against mj is by knowing and telling the truth. :cheeky:
I agree with Nivea 100% and find your whole theory a bit insulting regarding 'true mj fans'. It's essential that us fans have a basis for our beliefs that stem from credible research and facts. Why? Without these things we will never have the power to educate or inform others about who mj really was. We should not judge something as serious as child molestation solely on our personal opinion of Michael and his character. I think any rational person needs to put their fandom aside and assess the evidence about such a serious matter. It doesn't mean I don't love mj by having taken the time to ask questions. Without concrete facts to back up your beliefs, no offense but you're not going to come off as a true mj fan, rather a biased one.
 
Okay.... anyways, Those tapes of Jordan talking to the new york doctor that killed himself o_O by the way were aired on TV before yrs ago and during the 05 trial as well. I'm sure some of us heard them? I know I know I did! To me he didn't sound credible he sounded rehearsed, using big words that kids just don't use, and he was a little to calm (reading) I mean saying what he was saying!


if you remember do you mind giving a few examples?
 
if you remember do you mind giving a few examples?

Well, since this was a few yrs ago it's hard to remember in detail unless I go dig up my tapes and hear it again, but I have so many tapes on MJ it will take forever to find. But, what I do remember if correct was him giving details on what supposedly happen to him which I will not repeat because it's lies! He said MJ and him had a secret box (no not a real box) a imaginary box for secrets....0_0....lol He said his mom pimped him out! He psycho Analyzed MJ saying how MJ was and how he get things done to get his way...O_O which I thought was interesting because if he knew MJ so well in his thoughts and actions how the hell does Jordan explain him being molested by him then? Hmmmm? And who here is the therapist the child or the doctor? And like I said he was speaking like a adult not a child, he was very smart, according to ray chandler his uncle! NO DOUBT!
 
Well, since this was a few yrs ago it's hard to remember in detail unless I go dig up my tapes and hear it again, but I have so many tapes on MJ it will take forever to find. But, what I do remember if correct was him giving details on what supposedly happen to him which I will not repeat because it's lies! He said MJ and him had a secret box (no not a real box) a imaginary box for secrets....0_0....lol He said his mom pimped him out! He psycho Analyzed MJ saying how MJ was and how he get things done to get his way...O_O which I thought was interesting because if he knew MJ so well in his thoughts and actions how the hell does Jordan explain him being molested by him then? Hmmmm? And who here is the therapist the child or the doctor? And like I said he was speaking like a adult not a child, he was very smart, according to ray chandler his uncle! NO DOUBT!

pimped him out? what does that mean? is that why he didn't talk to her until she testified against Michael?! not good that is the behaviour of a victim who is mad that his mother let it happen

I like this thread because to tell you the truth i found Jordan testimony credible (never heard him say it) but it does fit to Michael's character (not the pedophilia thing) but the fact that he didn't "force him" per say like. Exemple; he didn't want to kiss Michael with the tongue and Michael allegedlly just cried but didn't force. I guess i can't imagine given so many details and all be lies where does that come from?

PLease don't all jump on me for saying this
 
pimped him out? what does that mean? is that why he didn't talk to her until she testified against Michael?! not good that is the behaviour of a victim who is mad that his mother let it happen

I like this thread because to tell you the truth i found Jordan testimony credible (never heard him say it) but it does fit to Michael's character (not the pedophilia thing) but the fact that he didn't "force him" per say like. Exemple; he didn't want to kiss Michael with the tongue and Michael allegedlly just cried but didn't force. I guess i can't imagine given so many details and all be lies where does that come from?

PLease don't all jump on me for saying this

It took me a while to understand what u were trying to say here, I think I understood?!

But, that is my point in my last post he certainly knew MJ well (That's according to himself) that is! So much so that he thought he could analyzed him on a therapy session with a therapist present that was suppose to help him, not the other way around! LOL So again I ask if he knew MJ so well how does he explain that he was supposedly molested then? It doesn't make sense!

He only blames his mom because his mom Never believed her son was molested by MJ that's why! The only reason why she was in the civil settlement with Jordan and Evan was because she didn't want to loose custody of her son because people was saying she was a unfit parent. But, remember that Jordan went to court and divorce both parents so I guess Evan pimped him out too for money as well with his lies and using his son! But, this tape was before that divorce of his parents, what made him change his mind, that he went against both later? He never said my dad is my hero and shit like that, so think about it!

Jordan uses MJ character against him like u pointed out about him not being a forceful person to sound credible, but I didn't fall for it! He was never charge or indicted from these allegations!


Jordan says the most important part to me on these tapes and the MOST TELLING when asked by the doctor "what are you most afraid of?"

Jordan ANSWERED- "Being CROSS EXAMINED"
 
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Chandler Suicide Highlights Media Bias Against Jackson


When it emerged yesterday that two weeks go Evan Chandler, father of Jordan Chandler, shot himself in the head, few tears were shed despite the media's best efforts to eulogise him.

Most media outlets are touting Chandler as 'the father of the boy who accused Jackson of child molestation'. Wrong. Chandler was the father who accused Jackson of molesting his son.

The initial allegations against Jackson were made not by Jordy Chandler but by his father Evan, in spite of Jordy's insistence that Jackson never touched him inappropriately, a stance that the boy maintained for several months.

Relations between the boy's father and Jackson had soured in early 1993 when Evan asked the popstar to build him a house and Jackson politely declined. A failed screenwriter, Chandler contacted Jackson shortly afterwards and asked him to negotiate three scriptwriting deals on his behalf. If Jackson did not comply, he said, he would accuse him of molesting his son. Jackson didn't comply - and the rest is history.

As revealed by Mary Fischer in her 1994 GQ article 'Was Michael Jackson Framed?' - Jordan Chandler only claimed to have been molested by Jackson after Evan - a dentist by trade - plied him with a mind-bending drug called sodium amytal, which is known to induce false memory syndrome.

Even once Jordan Chandler began to toe his father's line, his testimony was so unconvincing that DA Tom Sneddon took his case to three separate grand juries and none of them allowed him to bring charges against Michael Jackson. Contrary to widely reported myth, Jordan Chandler did not accurately describe Jackson's genitals. Among other inaccuracies, he claimed that Jackson was circumcised while police photographs proved that he was not.

Unsurprisingly, none of this information has made its way into the mainstream media's reportage of Evan Chandler's death. Instead, Chandler's suicide is seen as another opportunity to sling mud at Michael Jackson and perpetuate the same, tired old myths about the 1993 allegations - particularly with regard to the settlement.

News outlets the world over are once more reporting that in 1994 Jackson paid the Chandlers a settlement. This is total fiction.

Court documents which came to light in 2005 state clearly that Jackson's insurance carrier "negotiated and paid the settlement over the protests of Mr Jackson and his personal legal counsel."

Jackson didn't even agree with the settlement, let alone pay it.

Amongst the publications that rehashed this age old nonsense was The Sun, to which I often contribute as a Michael Jackson expert. I was contacted yesterday and asked to provide information about Evan Chandler and the 1993 allegations, which I did. However, none of my information was used - most likely because it reflected too well on Jackson. Myths that imply Jackson's guilt are evidently more important than truths which exonerate him.

Noticing that The Sun's article on Chandler's suicide contained several factual inaccuracies (most promintently that Jordy initiated the claims of molestation and that Jackson paid the family a settlement) I contacted two members of staff at the newspaper - my usual contact and the journalist who wrote the article. Neither email was replied and the article was not changed.

Elsewhere, The Mirror ranked several places higher on the adbsurdity scale as it attempted to portray Chandler as a martyr of some kind. 'Michael Jackson sex case dad Evan Chandler wanted justice but ended up destroyed', read the headline.

Justice?

If Evan Chandler had wanted justice, why did he contact Jackson and ask for a three-movie script deal before he went to the police? If he wanted justice, why did he accept a settlement from Jackson's insurance carrier?

Indeed, the settlement included a clause which stated that accepting the payment in lieu of a civil trial would not affect the family's ability to testify in a criminal case. So if Evan Chandler wanted justice, why didn't he allow the police to press ahead with their investigation?

The headline, along with much of the article, is nonsense.

Having taken Jackson's insurance carrier for just under $15million (not the $20million usually alluded to by the press), in 1996 Evan Chandler tried to sue Jackson for a further $60million after claiming that the star's album HIStory was a breach of the settlement's confidentiality clause. In addition to trying to sue Jackson, Chandler requested that the court allow him to produce a rebuttal album called EVANstory.

Yes, really.

So the man who The Mirror claims only 'wanted justice' thought that the best course of action after the initial media storm died down would be to release an album of music about the supposed abuse of his pre-pubescent son.

The Mirror alluded to the fact that relations between Jordan and his parents were strained after 1993, but laid the blame at Jackson's door, claiming that the trauma of the case had driven them apart.

In actuality, Jordan Chandler went to court when he was 16 and gained legal emancipation from both of his parents. When called to appear at Jackson's 2005 trial, he refused to testify against his former friend. Had he taken the stand, Jackson's legal team had a number of witnesses who were prepared to testify that Jordan - who now lives in Long Island under an assumed name - had told them in recent years that he hated his parents for what they made him say in 1993, and that Michael Jackson had never touched him.

The evidence surrounding the 1993 allegations overwhelmingly supports Michael Jackson's innocence. It is for this reason that during the lengthy investigation, which continued for many months before Jackson's insurance carrier negotiated a settlement, Michael Jackson was never arrested and he was never charged with any crime.

The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that Evan Chandler masterminded the allegations as a money making scheme, believing it would help him to achieve his dream of working in Hollywood. Tape recorded telephone conversations heard him dismiss the boy's wellbeing as 'irrelevant' and claim that he was out to take Jackson for all he was worth. (Click here for Mary Fischer's GQ article, which contains transcripts of the telephone calls.)

Mary Fischer's evidence shows that as well as falsifying the sexual abuse of his own son in an elaborate extortion plot, when Jordan refused to play along Evan plied him with mind-altering drugs in a bid to trick him into believing that he was molested.

But even drugging a child as part of an extortion plot wasn't Evan Chandler's lowest point. That came when he petitioned the court to allow him to release an album of music about the supposed sexual abuse of his own son.

If Evan Chandler wanted justice, he got it two weeks ago.

As for the media, this latest incident cements once more the industry's almost total unwillingness to report fairly or accurately on Michael Jackson, particularly on the bogus allegations of sexual abuse that were levelled against him. None of the aforementioned information and evidence was included in any article about Chandler's suicide that I have read so far, despite the fact that I personally delivered it to at least one newspaper which has repeatedly paid me as a Jackson expert on other stories.

Exculpatory facts are overlooked in favour of salacious myths. A black humanitarian is tarred as a paedophile and his white extortionist is painted as a martyr.

As for Jordy Chandler, maybe with his father gone he will find the courage to do the honourable thing. Perhaps he will surface somewhere and tell the world what he's been telling his friends for over a decade now - that Michael Jackson never laid a finger on him. Until then, I suspect he will live with the same torment that it seems eventually claimed his father, suspiciously soon after the demise of the biggest victim in all of this; Michael Jackson.

Posted by Charles Thomson

http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.com/2009/11/evan-chandler-suicide-higlights-media.html
 
It took me a while to understand what u were trying to say here, I think I understood?!

But, that is my point in my last post he certainly knew MJ well (That's according to himself) that is! So much so that he thought he could analyzed him on a therapy session with a therapist present that was suppose to help him, not the other way around! LOL So again I ask if he knew MJ so well how does he explain that he was supposedly molested then? It doesn't make sense!
So again I ask if he knew MJ so well how does he explain that he was supposedly molested then? It doesn't make sense!
He only blames his mom because his mom Never believed her son was molested by MJ that's why! The only reason why she was in the civil settlement with Jordan and Evan was because she didn't want to loose custody of her son because people was saying she was a unfit parent. But, remember that Jordan went to court and divorce both parents so I guess Evan pimped him out too for money as well with his lies and using his son! But, this tape was before that divorce of his parents, what made him change his mind, that he went against both later? He never said my dad is my hero and shit like that, so think about it!

Jordan uses MJ character against him like u pointed out about him not being a forceful person to sound credible, but I didn't fall for it! He was never charge or indicted from these allegations!


Jordan says the most important part to me on these tapes and the MOST TELLING when asked by the doctor "what are you most afraid of?"

Jordan ANSWERED- "Being CROSS EXAMINED"
 
Btw, does anyone know why Victor Guiterrez's book 'Michael jackson was my lover: The secret diary or Jordan Chandler' is not allowed to be sold in the u.s? Or any other info they may have about the book
 
Btw, does anyone know why Victor Guiterrez's book 'Michael jackson was my lover: The secret diary or Jordan Chandler' is not allowed to be sold in the u.s? Or any other info they may have about the book

I don't think it's sold anywhere, I heard it was taken off shelves because it had too many innacuracies and lies, and could not be found credible... but then again there are plenty of books being sold on mj that have no shred of truth, so I really don't know.
 
I don't think it's sold anywhere, I heard it was taken off shelves because it had too many innacuracies and lies, and could not be found credible... but then again there are plenty of books being sold on mj that have no shred of truth, so I really don't know.

if only that was the reason

I think it is consider child porn in the us

Michael sued him twice and won but off course that bastard went on to be the producer of a show that talked about the trial in 2005 on fox!
 
I know Michael sued him, but not for the book...

I read the book. It was disgusting and highly implausible that a 12 -13 year old would think thoughts like such, or have the capability to words things like 'Michael's kisses were so passionate!' (PUH-LEZE), nonetheless rush to write them in a diary.
 
yes you got some good points tho i don't understand what you mean by "So again I ask if he knew MJ so well how does he explain that he was supposedly molested then? It doesn't make sense! "

but when he says that his mom pimped him out he doesn't mean he was mad because she didn't believe him.



edit: also does Jordan mention brett barnes as a possible victim or is it tabloid? because that is unbelievable

No Jordan doesn't mention Brett Barnes, I don't remember hearing that in the tapes. Plus, that would be a lie if he did or have ever, cause Brett Barnes in 93 said to police nothing happened and also complained to the media and MJs lawyers that the police was intimidating him to scar him with lies that MJ had pics of him nude and other boys so he can be trick to supposedly confess something! Wade Robinson, and even Jason Francia also complained about the same things happening to them when they were interviewed by cops! Plus, Brett Barnes in the 05 trial again said nothing ever happened to him!

Corey Feldman was also intimidated by the cops "investigating" this case! Corey tapes were aired during or before the 05 trial on Celebrity Justice. A show that was made by TMZ's Harvey Levin at the time. You can hear the cop trying to insist upon something happen to Corey by MJ, even though he says nothing ever happend to him. The cop was saying stupid things like "Oh you made a funny face when u said that" trying to imply that Corey was liying! Corey just laugh and said "I did?" He Surprise that they kept on insisting he was molested even though he repeated many times he wasn't, he was 15yrs old on these tapes if I remember correctly?!

Now, The pimp thing comes from Jordan trying to blame his mom for supposedly being molested, saying he told her but she didn't believe him, and saying she like MJ money and the stuff she was receiving from him like trips they all went on with MJ and jewelry, so she didn't want to see the truth or whatever! Which is total B.S (the part about he told his mom and she didn't care) because his mother still to this day never says MJ molested her son! She only was in the out of court settlement along with Evan and Jordan but, as we already know it was for Negligence, which is a whole different ball game!

Who pimped Jordan out was his dad...period! He called his son irrelevant on tape!

Also what I meant about, if he knew MJ so well, why he claims he was molested?, Is because he told the doctor how he thought MJ character was and how he was able to do what he did. He was saying how MJ thinks analyzing his MJ mind! So it was weird to me that if he (like he said) knew MJ so damn well how, did he fall into his suppose trap? No kid talks like that, he was clearly scripted into what to say, it was so weird!
 
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Btw, does anyone know why Victor Guiterrez's book 'Michael jackson was my lover: The secret diary or Jordan Chandler' is not allowed to be sold in the u.s? Or any other info they may have about the book

From what I remember it was banned by a US judge to be sold here in America, u can imagine why!! Plus, this guy owns MJ money I believe 1mil for defamation of character, when MJ sued him along with Diane Dimond for stating false rumors that there was a videotape of MJ molesting a child and they had it. When the judge ask for the tape they of course said they didn't have such a tape, and MJ won the suit because they lied! Victor fled the country and never paid MJ and Diane Dimond filed bankruptcy! LMAO!
 
I know Michael sued him, but not for the book...

I read the book. It was disgusting and highly implausible that a 12 -13 year old would think thoughts like such, or have the capability to words things like 'Michael's kisses were so passionate!' (PUH-LEZE), nonetheless rush to write them in a diary.

well wasn't he supposed to be 16/17 y.o when the book was written? that is more plausible then.

It's weird that such a book was ever written! would anybody publish a book telling the story of a child molested if it weren't Michael Jackson??!!!

bluetopez: I know that the police lied and tried to intimidate the kids/teenagers i've read the transcript of interview by Jason francia et Corey feldman. They clearly don't take no for a answer! and particulary francia when they tried to make him feel guilty by saying "it is way worth what he is doing to him (talking about mac) and they also told him that corey was doing drugs because of that!!!!off course the press don't ever talk about that
 
well wasn't he supposed to be 16/17 y.o when the book was written? that is more plausible then.

It's weird that such a book was ever written! would anybody publish a book telling the story of a child molested if it weren't Michael Jackson??!!!

bluetopez: I know that the police lied and tried to intimidate the kids/teenagers i've read the transcript of interview by Jason francia et Corey feldman. They clearly don't take no for a answer! and particulary francia when they tried to make him feel guilty by saying "it is way worth what he is doing to him (talking about mac) and they also told him that corey was doing drugs because of that!!!!off course the press don't ever talk about that

Whether it's 16/17 or 12/13 I think it's odd for anyone to remember things in the details both jordy and gavin supposedly did, specially something like molestation.
I know a few rape victims, none of them remember any details really. They remember how terrified they were and the face of the person who did it, but that's it. Everything else is a grey area, they've blocked it out.

But yeah books like that don't even get considered for publishing, it's the simple fact that mj's name was involved that had this one released.
 
does anyone know where the that tape of sneddon joking around in a press conference is?
was that in 93'?
 
well wasn't he supposed to be 16/17 y.o when the book was written? that is more plausible then.

It's weird that such a book was ever written! would anybody publish a book telling the story of a child molested if it weren't Michael Jackson??!!!
The book as far as I know was meant to be his diary, so I would assume the so called diary was written when he was going through the molestation (I'm sure he was about 12 - 13) at the time. IF it's claimed he wrote that diary at 16-17, that to me makes it even more ridiculous. As if 4 years after being molested you're going to sit there and write up a diary of events in such staggering detail (as if you would at ANY point after being molested but anyway). He himself didn't write the book and as far as I'm aware (I threw the book out) his name is not officially affiliated with it right? Where did victor guiiterez (don't know how to spell his name... don't care) GET the so called diary from?
 
In my opinion he was just a ghost writer for Evan Chandler and some way some how Diane Dimond got to know him or maybe she help write the book? lol I don't put nothing past these disgusting people!
 
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