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The 1993 case. [Threads merged, All discussion in this one thread]

as this thread is about everything related to 93, where can i found the interview of Jason Francia and Corey Feldman (is that his name? can't remember) cause i've read only parts of it in an MJEOL bullet which i can't found on the website anymore.

Does anybody know (parts of the interview is good)
 
edena said:
as this thread is about everything related to 93, where can i found the interview of Jason Francia and Corey Feldman (is that his name? can't remember) cause i've read only parts of it in an MJEOL bullet which i can't found on the website anymore.

Does anybody know (parts of the interview is good)
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Which interviews are u talking about, The taped ones from the cops "investigations?" where there being intimidated by them?
 
What r these tapes that jordie is on? havent heard bout them
 
bluetopez said:
Which interviews are u talking about, The taped ones from the cops "investigations?" where there being intimidated by them?
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I am talking about the transcripts of the interview. there was an mjeol bullet about it around the time of the trial when there was parts of the interview with the cops. But can't find it on that website anymore you know using the search button.

I actually at the time send it to a website that was about false molestations accusations and she told me that the way they were interviewing that child was completely wrong, they wouldn't take no for an answer and they tried to guilt him over saying that corey feldman was under drugs because of what Michael did to him and that he was doing way worse now to Mac and that he didn't have the chance to have a mother like his (bianca francia!) that pulled him out.
I asked that woman to put her conclusions and the parts on her website but she said as there was no trial back then she wouldnt.
 
.Butterflies. said:
The book as far as I know was meant to be his diary, so I would assume the so called diary was written when he was going through the molestation (I'm sure he was about 12 - 13) at the time. IF it's claimed he wrote that diary at 16-17, that to me makes it even more ridiculous. As if 4 years after being molested you're going to sit there and write up a diary of events in such staggering detail (as if you would at ANY point after being molested but anyway). He himself didn't write the book and as far as I'm aware (I threw the book out) his name is not officially affiliated with it right? Where did victor guiiterez (don't know how to spell his name... don't care) GET the so called diary from?
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You're talking about that book that I have seen from amazon that is 500 dollars.

I hate how that trash got published in the first place. :mat: It sounds like that Victor guy probably came up some fantasy looks like it. I don't know, I have'nt read the book and I will not pay 500 dollars for that crap.
 
MJ was victimised and scrutinised and falsely accused of acts he didnt commit. :-(
This is why it breaks our hearts more than ever. :-(
For me this is one of the reasons why I cry.
Those false accusations back in 1993 left a scar that couldnt be retracted. :-(
When you drive a nail into a fence you can take it out..............but the mark of where it once was remains...........:-(
I weep for the injustice served against the most beautiful talented kind hearted and gifted man that ever graced our lives.
His premature demise? 1993 accusations play a big part in that.
It saddens and sickens me that our MJ had endure all that shice.
What a price.
:-(
 
Suzie1 said:
WTF :shock:
CLOSE THIS THREAD
:cry:
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why? if you don't like it just stay out i don't know everything about 93 and i want to be able to defend MIchael with FACTS and not appear as fan dazzle by Michael (tho I am lol)
 
edena said:
does someone know about about the question asked?
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Well, if u can't find it on mjeol and no where else then i don't know? I know, that celebrity Justice played Corey Fieldmans audio on tv once but I don't know if that is on you tube? I got it on tape but I don't know how to load anything...lol
 
bluetopez said:
Well, if u can't find it on mjeol and no where else then i don't know? I know, that celebrity Justice played Corey Fieldmans audio on tv once but I don't know if that is on you tube? I got it on tape but I don't know how to load anything...lol
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well that's the thing i don't get cause it was in an mjeol bullet! so nobody from that site here?

the thing you got on tape was it in full or?
 
edena said:
well that's the thing i don't get cause it was in an mjeol bullet! so nobody from that site here?

the thing you got on tape was it in full or?
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No, it was not the whole thing but portions, enough to let u know that they were pushing those kids! Their is no way they could have aired the whole thing cause obviously those integrations lasted hrs, i'm sure!

Same goes for the the Jordan tapes when they aired on TV! Therapy sessions can be long and for more then one day so they aired portions only!
 
bluetopez said:
No Jordan doesn't mention Brett Barnes, I don't remember hearing that in the tapes. Plus, that would be a lie if he did or have ever, cause Brett Barnes in 93 said to police nothing happened and also complained to the media and MJs lawyers that the police was intimidating him to scar him with lies that MJ had pics of him nude and other boys so he can be trick to supposedly confess something! Wade Robinson, and even Jason Francia also complained about the same things happening to them when they were interviewed by cops! Plus, Brett Barnes in the 05 trial again said nothing ever happened to him!
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Actually Jordan Chandler does mention Brett Barnes in his interview with Dr. Gardner,"[He told me] that if I didn't do it, then I didn't love him as much as Brett did."

http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books2/unm/unm102.html
 
crazychick!!! said:
Actually Jordan Chandler does mention Brett Barnes in his interview with Dr. Gardner,"[He told me] that if I didn't do it, then I didn't love him as much as Brett did."

http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books2/unm/unm102.html
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Okay, but I said I didn't remember hearing that, Cause I only heard portions that were aired on TV! Sorry, I should have been more clear. lol But, either way Jordan lied! Brett defended MJ in 93 and 2005 so Jordan can take his B.S and shove it up his......
 
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crazychick!!! said:
Actually Jordan Chandler does mention Brett Barnes in his interview with Dr. Gardner,"[He told me] that if I didn't do it, then I didn't love him as much as Brett did."

http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books2/unm/unm102.html
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are you quoting halperin as a reliable source?

I know i've heard several years ago that the police asked Jordan if they thought Michael had other victims and Evan chandler is the one who said "he thinks Brett barnes, wade robson and mac" and that is why they went after them because you know whatever Jordan/evan chandler say is the gospel!

I also know that in the book "Michael J was my lover" he does talk about a scene where he sees brett being molested by Michael!!!!!!!!!!! nobody ever, in the media, talked about the inconstencies in that book????
 
edena said:
are you quoting halperin as a reliable source?

I know i've heard several years ago that the police asked Jordan if they thought Michael had other victims and Evan chandler is the one who said "he thinks Brett barnes, wade robson and mac" and that is why they went after them because you know whatever Jordan/evan chandler say is the gospel!

I also know that in the book "Michael J was my lover" he does talk about a scene where he sees brett being molested by Michael!!!!!!!!!!! nobody ever, in the media, talked about the inconstencies in that book????
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Ian's book is garbage, BUT he does have Jordan's interview with Dr. Gardner in it. That's where the quote about Brett comes from. I'm quoting Jordan, not Ian.
 
I understood something today.

I think MJ accusations separate the 'stupid and wrong people' to good people. Its a good thing in a way.

Every person that clearly believe that mj is a pedophile and hates him are the people I dont want to be aside, not because of this, but because its almost 99% of the cases, it reflects perfectly who they are.
 
crazychick!!! said:
Ian's book is garbage, BUT he does have Jordan's interview with Dr. Gardner in it. That's where the quote about Brett comes from. I'm quoting Jordan, not Ian.
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how sure can we be that everything in the interview is accurately reported? because i believe ray chandler also put transcripts of Jordan being interviewed...idk i guess i am a bit paranoid.

Anyway i wasn't coming at you or anything :)

Do you know which page does it start? so i don't have to read the whole book; thank you
 
edena said:
how sure can we be that everything in the interview is accurately reported? because i believe ray chandler also put transcripts of Jordan being interviewed...idk i guess i am a bit paranoid.

Anyway i wasn't coming at you or anything :)

Do you know which page does it start? so i don't have to read the whole book; thank you
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What good would it do for Ian to add is own spin to the interview? Why lie about Brett Barnes?

The interview starts on the appendix, but I didn't see it posted on jetzi's site. I could be overlooking it though.
 
I have another question. Not necessarily limited to the 93 allegations. When Mj shared his beds with kids, did he sleep on the floor all the time or not?
 
Just watched E true hollywood story: MJ. Of course it was completely skewed to make Michael look like a monster and for the first time ever, I wanted to punch Aphrodite Jones in the face. They told the Jordan Chandler saga (from Jordan Chandler's apparent point of view only), showing snippets of his statement to police. Diane Dimond came on to say how specific his details were naming all these hotels ect. One guy came on to say "the boy never changed a word of his story". They also said there were 2 other boys at the same time who said michael kissed and hugged them but didn't want to testify for whatever reasons as one was out of the country or something (Were they refering to mac and brett barne with this?). They said a jury "weren't buying" mj's extortion charges and he dropped them (wtf?). After the whole Jordan saga they brushed up quickly saying Mj settled. Diane Dimond reared her ugly head to say "I believe it was for around $20 million." (UM YOU'RE the one who released the settlement didn't you. I think you'd know the amount!) Then later on in the same doco when they talked about the 2005 trial, they said that documents surfaced from '93 showing there was a settlement with a young boy for 'negligence', not mentioning they were talking about the Jordan Chandler settlement, not linking them up as if it was a completely separate boy.I had to laugh at it. There's nothing else to do but laugh at them or else you'll end up destroying your tv.
 
.Butterflies. said:
I have another question. Not necessarily limited to the 93 allegations. When Mj shared his beds with kids, did he sleep on the floor all the time or not?
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If you watch the LWMJ thing, you'll hear Michael say that sometimes he did, sometimes he didn't.
 
.Butterflies. said:
I have another question. Not necessarily limited to the 93 allegations. When Mj shared his beds with kids, did he sleep on the floor all the time or not?
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can't bring myself to watch the bashir thing either.. so I dunno about that
But I remember he and friends of his said that most of the time he'd sleep on the floor, sometimes he wasn't even in the same room.
 
.Butterflies. said:
Just watched E true hollywood story: MJ. Of course it was completely skewed to make Michael look like a monster and for the first time ever, I wanted to punch Aphrodite Jones in the face. They told the Jordan Chandler saga (from Jordan Chandler's apparent point of view only), showing snippets of his statement to police. Diane Dimond came on to say how specific his details were naming all these hotels ect. One guy came on to say "the boy never changed a word of his story". They also said there were 2 other boys at the same time who said michael kissed and hugged them but didn't want to testify for whatever reasons as one was out of the country or something (Were they refering to mac and brett barne with this?). They said a jury "weren't buying" mj's extortion charges and he dropped them (wtf?). After the whole Jordan saga they brushed up quickly saying Mj settled. Diane Dimond reared her ugly head to say "I believe it was for around $20 million." (UM YOU'RE the one who released the settlement didn't you. I think you'd know the amount!) Then later on in the same doco when they talked about the 2005 trial, they said that documents surfaced from '93 showing there was a settlement with a young boy for 'negligence', not mentioning they were talking about the Jordan Chandler settlement, not linking them up as if it was a completely separate boy.I had to laugh at it. There's nothing else to do but laugh at them or else you'll end up destroying your tv.
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It's vary laughable they need to remove the word "TRUE" and just stay with "a Hollywood Story." lol That is a terrible bio on MJ, In fact all of the ones E! did were terrible, the La toya and Janet ones were bad too! They updated MJ's after he passed but, added more crap!

And Diane Dimond u Biotch.....we all waiting for you to go "SPLAT!"
 
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