The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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Well it seems as though MJ's own brother Jermaine Jackson introduced MJ to Tohme. :doh: MJ unfortunetly gave Tohme power of attorney at some point and that's how MJ lost cotrol over what was in his own bank accounts and the reason why he wanted to fire Tohme cause he did not trust him. He was controlling MJ and not lettin him see his own attornies WTF? MJ said all this on tape by the way as some may know?!

Why was this guy so mean to MJ? That ugly bastard should have been on trial too damn straight atleast be name in the civil suit, u know? Why has he gone silent and allowed to live his life as nothin? He bullied MJ and no ones give a flying f*ck? HELLO JACKSON FAMILY?! Ain't gonna say media cause they don't give a flyin f*ck either just some fans...like us SMDH! =,(

And yes Latoya signed cause chicken sh*t Murray was tryin to save his own Arse! I don't think MJ name is on his Grave yet?...Someone should ask a Jackson.

By the way I think Tohme allegedly said "DEATH and distruction" if I remember correctly? But, this was said by a reporter on the Geraldo show so who knows? The only proof we have of his bad side is what MJ said about him on tape! Which should have been enough for many including his fam to be alarmed!
 
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Murray refused to sign death certificate. Did he sign it later ? Or did La Toya signed it ?
Does anyone know....in Forrest Lane...is Michael"s name ingraved yet ?

He said he didn't sign it because he didn't know what the exact cause of death was. How la Toya was able to sign it is beyond my understanding. Surely an offical person would need to sign a legal document like that?

I would like the answer to that one. ! :scratch:

Michaels name is not on the crypt it was explained because it rolls away to a room underneath where his coffin is kept. Which is either a family vault or a place where other coffins can be placed and/or kept there.

(Hope this helps)
 
According to a doc friend of mine, LaToya would have signed the Death Certificate as the person furnishing info on the deceased, nothing more. Sad to say, but you have to be careful about her and take much of what she says with a grain of salt.

As for Tohme, I too think there is something there that should have come out, or will eventually come out. Strange that in all his many post 6-25-09 interviews Jermaine has not spoken about him, how and why he introduced him to Michael or whether that's even true. Not to mention why Tohme seemed to be running the show at UCLA....

Here's some info I dug up on Tohme – maybe someone here can get further than I did. I'm copying this from notes from research I did for a couple of YT vid series, that's why it sounds like I'm talking to someone.

Dr. Tohme Tohme has represented himself as:
a Lebanese business man
a Lebanese doctor (there actually is a Lebanese doc. living in the US since 1984 named Jack Tohme)
an orthopedic surgeon from Saudi Arabia
Ambassador at Large for Senegal (the Senegalese embassy in D.C. has never heard of him “we have two Ambassadors at Large and he is not one of them”)
is partners with James Weller & Sig Rogich in TRW Advertising. His credentials on the website list him as Ambassador at Large for Senegal.
According to witnesses, Tohme travels on a Senegalese passport and letter of ambassadorship
Per the Associated Press, Tohme is “a financier with a murky past”
Tohme has also said on occasion that he is a US citizen, raised in LA, although his accented English does not sound like his first language
Tohme has a history of real estate fraud and making threats; according to The Today Show, Tohme “has been fingered in connection with many illicit real estate deals”.
In the 1990's Tohme filed bankruptcy but “fought the court, trying to hold back information”


In the spring of 2008, MJ was facing loosing Neverland to foreclosure. We are told his brother Jermaine introduced him to “Lebanese businessman” Dr. Tohme Tohme (always went by Dr., although there is no record of him ever practicing anywhere in the US & he's never said where he received his education/license) Tohme is friends with &/or was paid a fee by Tom Barrak, owner of Colony Capitol. (USA Today calls them “close friends” other reports are that Tohme was on Colony's payroll while he was working for MJ for free) Tohme and Barrak meet with MJ in Las Vegas where Barrak is “impressed by Michael's intelligence and focus” (USA Today May 2008). Barrak purchases the mortgage on Neverland. According to Fox News, Tohme was working for Colony Capitol at the time he was President of MJJ Productions, and took no compensation from MJ. (after the death he returned $5.5M to the estate, around the time Branca was conducting an audit. He alternately said it had been a gift, and that it was money he was holding in secret for MJ to buy a property in Vegas. According to a celebrity real estate site, as of June 29 Tohme was “contracted to buy a $5.8M mansion in Bel Air”)


In September 2008: Rev. June Gatlin records a phone conversation with MJ (with his permission) in which he clearly states that he does not trust Tohme and that he is afraid of him (see NBC's report on Tohme on You Tube, various vids), that Tohme has cut him off from just about everyone else. (Tohme says he “built a fence” around MJ to protect him.) Rev. Gatlin advises MJ to have Tohme investigated. In another taped conversation he says that he has.


March 31, 2009: Per Fox News “Tohme has taken down his website for TRW Advertising. It's just gone. This was the website on which he claimed to be Ambassador at Large for Senegal.” The site is back now, but no mention of Tohme. Under “current work” are ads for This Is It and Colony Capital. I have lots of info on Sig Rogich and James Weller of TRW and long story short, they, Tom Barrak and Phil Anschutz are connected via Republican politics all the way back to the Reagan Administration. Sig Rogich is one scary dude, and his brother Ed is VP of Marketing for a hi-tech gaming machine company in Reno, NV and had a contract with Tom Barrak's Station Casinos and.......


In April 2009: Julien's Auction House in Beverly Hills is planning to hold an auction of some of MJ's personal possessions taken from Neverland with Dr. Tohme's authorization. This is apparently news to MJ, who says the items were never intended for sale and were taken from Neverland without his permission. He wants the auction stopped. According to affidavits, Darren Julien, of Julien's Auction House, said that James Weller, (Tohme's partner in TRW) on behalf of Dr. Tohme in his capacity as MJ's business manager, threatened his life if he didn't call off the auction “. . .lives are at stake and there will be bloodshed”. Julien says he has a contract signed by Tohme allowing him to take anything he could sell, even fixtures. According to one report, even MJ's beautiful front gates were to be sold. April 2009, with law enforcement involved, Julien and Tohme issue a joint statement that there will be an exhibit of MJ's things, that keeping them out of the hands of private collectors will give all fans a chance to see them. Julien says that he will return the more personal items to MJ.


May 2009: Julien's Auction House files papers stating that they cannot return property to MJ because Dr. Tohme is also laying claim to it, refusing to sign release papers. As of September 2, 2009 these items have still not been returned to the estate.

In the first week of July, Tohme told several sources “all his stuff is in storage and I am in control of it. . ..hopefully put it on display at Neverland”. Tohme has repeatedly stated that MJ talked often of turning Neverland into a Graceland type attraction “only 10 times as big”. Keep in mind Tohme's friend from Colony Capitol holds the mortgage on Neverland. “Dr. Tohme was charged with one thing, and that was to bring money into Colony Capital.” (Patrick Alacko, NJ promoter ) According to the London Daily Mail, “Barrak and Anschutz had bigger plans for Neverland: a Michael Jackson museum in the style of Graceland, even “Thriller” casinos.”


May 5, 2009: With the help of Frank Dileo MJ fires Tohme. A letter is sent to all MJ business associates that Tohme is no longer authorized to represent him. Despite this, Tohme makes a statement at UCLA on June 25 as though he represents MJ and stands near Jermaine as he informs us that MJ has died, is seen following a body to the helicopter at UCLA on CBS News tape, tells the NY Post “I am his manager” on June 26, and two weeks after the death tells NBC news that he is still in charge of all MJ business dealings. He states that he saw MJ two days before he died and that he looked healthy etc., even says he was at rehearsals. . .?? At being fired, Tohme goes into a rage and threatens to “bring death and destruction on Michael Jackson and the entire Jackson family”. Geraldo Rivera says this is a cleaned up version of the threat. (See Geraldo interview in “MJ Framed Again? Mystery Advisor Tohme Tohme” on YT)

Tohme talked MJ out of a 6 month concert series in Las Vegas and into the AEG concerts in London (AEG also owns Staple's Center and the O2 Arena). He convinced MJ that summer in England would be better for the kids than summer in Vegas (per Tohme interview with Contactmusic) The Vegas shows would have paid MJ $100M

From the London Evening Standard, June 26 2009
“Dr Tohme brokered a deal between Jackson and Colony Capital, a private-equity firm run by billionaire Tom Barrack Jr. Philip Anschutz, owner of AEG Live, the US entertainment giant which went on to handle the final tour, then received a call from Mr Barrack, his friend. Randy Phillips, AEG chief executive, said: "I got a call from Dr Tohme, who said Michael was in bad financial straits." Last December, Mr Phillips presented Dr Tohme with his vision. "Phase one would be 10 shows at the O2," he said.”

Per Fox News:

Yesterday, after many efforts, I finally pinned the 59-year-old Tohme down. A little. He conceded that he is not a licensed physician. “Not at this time,” he said. He refused, after repeated attempts, to say what kind of doctor he might have been at any time. His associates declined as well.

But the story is very much about Tohme, who has not only taken over Jackson’s life but has a certain conflict of interest: he acts as a consultant to Colony Capital LLC, the company now partnered with Jackson in ownership of Neverland. Colony bought Fortress Investment’s $23.5 million note on the ranch last year.

But Thomas Barrack, head of Colony Capital, says Tohme’s a “great guy,” someone’s he known a long time “in the business world, around L.A.” When I asked him how Tohme knew Jackson, Barrack answered: “You’ll have to ask him.” He did say it was Tohme who introduced him to Jackson.
Tohme is fuzzy on this point. “I knew him a long time,” he said of Jackson. At first he said he knew Jackson’s family, then he backtracked and said his relationship was with Michael. We never really figured that one out.

Tohme told me he set up the AEG Live deal, even though he was clearly not around in 2007 when I first reported the story. I asked him if he set up the auction. “I did not set up the auction, the auction is not going through!” This is in direct contrast to my conversation with auctioneer Darrell Julien last winter, who sang Tohme’s praises as the pair worked to put it all together.
“I love Michael,” Tohme said. “I want what’s best for him. When the problems with Neverland came, I was approached to see if I could help. I knew him for twenty to thirty years.”
“We had a certain period of time to empty Neverland last year,” Tohme said. “I was looking for a place for storage, a place to dump a lot of stuff like cars. I called Julien’s and asked if they could do it, come pick it up.” He says an auction could only go through with Jackson’s approval.
Last week, Darrell Julien told this column: “Michael has plenty of storage facilities. He wouldn’t have called me for storage.” True enough: Jackson at different times has had airport hangers at Santa Monica airport filled with his belongings. He’s also had warehouses closer to home near Neverland.
So what about Tohme Tohme, who’s not a doctor? There were a lot of questions I couldn’t ask him because he kept yelling, and refused to answer. I never got to ask him about a 1996 bankruptcy filing on record in the state of California. In the court filing, vs. Marathon National Bank, he listed himself as “Tohme Tohme, Doctor.”
A search of the Lexis Nexis database shows no mention of “Tohme Tohme,” doctor or otherwise, prior to December 22, 2008 when he issued a statement about Jackson’s health.
He was charming in our conversation. He said, “If you play it right, you will be the first one to know everything about Michael Jackson.” I said, thanks, I already was. He said that Michael is in great shape and could easily do 50 shows. “He could do a hundred.”

Per Portland Examiner.com: Just a month after Colony Capital's Tom Barrack held two days of lavish parties and tours to tell locals he had no plans to make Neverland a West Coast Graceland, lawyers for one of his companies filed 20 trademark applications for the names Neverland Ranch, Neverland Valley, Neverland Valley Ranch, and Neverland, asking the US Patent Office to protect their rights to "operating a museum in Michael Jackson's former home and providing tours thereof," among a laundry list of items.
The parties were July 9-10. On August 12, the current Neverland owners filed to protect the following: (Note the dates of the parties, just 2 days after the Memorial, 2 weeks after MJ died)
"Entertainment services; museum services- namely, operating a museum in Michael Jackson's former home and providing tours thereof; providing theme park services; entertainment services, namely, live shows and events; tennis and golf resort services; recreation and sporting club services; organization of meetings and conferences;"
"Providing facilities for business meetings and conferences; retail and online retail store services; mail order catalog services in the field of novelty, gift, and souvenir items;"
"Clothing, footwear, headgear;"
"Printed matter, namely, post cards, holiday/greeting cards, art prints, art reproductions, bumper stickers, stickers, decals, tissue/giftwrap, printed tickets, posters, wall calendars, flags and pennants of paper, printed and paper emblems, brochures, catalogs, and merchandise bags; books, namely, non-fiction books about Michael Jackson, activity books, address books, appointment books, coloring books, picture books, and comic books; paper and paper articles, namely, photographs, stationery, memo pads, notebooks, envelopes; pencil sharpeners, pen and pencil cases and boxes, pens, pencils, erasers, rulers, paper weights, staplers; binders, notebooks, stationery consisting of writing paper and envelopes, memo pads, writing tablets; paper table cloths, paper napkins, paper coasters, and paper mats; money clips;"
"Games and playthings, namely, plush toys, paper dolls, dolls and accessories, toy action figures, toy vehicles, toy cars, toy trucks, toy bucket and shovel sets, roller skates, toy model hobbycraft kits, toy rockets, wind-up toys, toy guns, toy holsters, musical toys, jigsaw puzzles, badminton sets, bubble making wand and solution sets, toy banks, puppets, toy balloons, yo-yo's, kites, baseball bats, balls of all kind; play wands, board games, playing cards, and children's games to play during travel; ornaments, and decorations for a Christmas tree; sporting goods."

The request was hurriedly abandoned September 8 after the story leaked and Jackson family patriarch Joe Jackson told the media, "Colony Capital cannot do this without our permission."

According to CNN Money.com, Tom Barrak of Colony Capital owns a 1200 acre ranch/vineyard (Happy Canyon Vinyard) next door to Neverland.

Maybe it's just me, but it still seems like there's something wrong with this picture.
 
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It is a fact that all the events on the death of Michael is a complete mess since June 25. So far nothing is completely clear to us. I wonder how many things must have happened behind the curtains before June 25 and we can not even imagine. I'm scared just thinking. o___O :(
 
mjsonlygirl;2337763 said:
I understand how you feel. I feel very similar myself.

I have been to youtube and seen what is out there. I am 46 years old - grown enough to make logical conclusions from things I see and Hear. I have seen enough on videos from television camera to question everything about his death.

Starting from the 911 call, the helicopter ride to coronors office, chief of police retires 8/5 effective 10/30?, no officials really speaking about anything. Death certificate says for Michael Joseph Jackson - in court his legal name is Michael Joe Jackson? both should be the same! Too many questions, so few anwers - so until I am convinced otherwise - I think there is a possiblity he is still alive.


I don't think I am crazy or living in denial - living in confusion yes.... I don't think they are crazy for thinking he is dead - we just have a difference of opinion and I think MJ would want us to get to the truth w/o pointing fingers and making fun of eachother. We all need to support eachother through this no matter what our belief is... I hope that helps... I am writing out of love for you - you are part of this huge family of MJ fans.....

I Agree! I'm 23y.o. and have been a fan for about 20 years, and my love for Michael has grown since childhood. I'm a social worker and have seen some part of life. I'm not the smartest person but I comprehend things fairly well. I have been crying on and off, since 2009 and every time i hear something about Michael on the News, my heart hurts.

However, following the death hoax site has brought lots of unanswered questions that are still waiting to be answered. Most of the theories make sense to me and sometimes it might be a coincidence but it brings a little bit of peace to my heart. I dont really care for fans who dont understand this but it makes sense to us so Lets just leave it at that.

One thing i've read repeatedly on this thread is, "No Michael wouldnt do that to his fans, friends, family..." My question, Why say those things when we actually witnessed the unfair, degrading and evil things that was done to Michael in this life time? Why think of ourselves and how we feel if indeed he is alive? Why not try to think of what he felt? I know that few fans have taken their lives because of this and my heart and prayers goes to them and their families… But still to think Michael owes us something is beyond my understanding…

I Love all my MJ Fam, and being open minded is/was supposed to be one of our traits and not judging. One of the things we learned from Michael and it would be nice to continue that characteristic…


L.o.v.e.
Romi
 
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Thank u to the 3 above me AGREE 100%! And just want to say I fail to see how Tohme is long and forgotten by so many. Just doesn't make any sense and it's not right. He was like the beginning of the end for MJ once he met him!

I also want to say that the last thing I wanna hear is fans saying "MJ wouldn't do that to US" either. He been through so much to make others happy it was time for him to think and do for HIMSELF...if only he did?!
 
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^^^
Absolutely. It is crazy to think he owe us anything. He gave us too much already and he gave so much to so many ppl and it was not apreciated. However...all this hoax would be so much esier ..exept for his kids. That is the only time I can say - he would not do that to them. So...do they know ? They must know. If that is true.
But I can also say - he would not be so irresponsible to take heavy sleeping drugs without proper monitoring with his kids in the house, right ?
Oh....soooo many crazy questions. Will we ever know the truth ?!
That Tohme is a shady character. Somwhere in the back of my mind it goes ....it could be a good deal if he is on Michael"s side..you know.
I visit some conspiracy sites and it is really UNBELIVABLE what is going on around the world. And I know that Michael was interested in those kinda things. Unbelivable things were happening and are happening as we speak. So...
 
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He was also in the coroners car while the body was being transported on June 25... I think thats a bit too close for someone MJ feared and fired.
 
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Will we ever know the truth ?!

*big sigh*


I have a feeling they do not. :( I feel that the truth will not appear and will remain forever hidden. But maybe in the future this may change? Maybe.... I still believe that goes far beyond Murray. There are many more.







He was also in the coroners car while the body was being transported on June 25... I think thats a bit too close for someone MJ feared and fired.

We can not forget this (pay attention to what June Gatlin says and in the audio tape):


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUoA4k9XTnE&feature=related
 
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Yes... what the hell was that man who MJ feared in those tapes at the hospital and walking next to MJs corpse being taken into the helicopter to the corners on June 25th allowed to be there and do that? FREAKY ISH! So many question...NO damn answers......>=(


Someone who know how to do a good job needs to start a "Where the hell is Tohme Tohme campaign/Page and demand his ass to answers some questions. To let his ass know that just because Murray is in jail doesn't mean we forgot about his shady ass too!
 
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http://youtu.be/DkoMUvscv4g


Thought this was an interesting vid because Pearl Jr. says she got a call from Dick Gregory out of the blue.


:nono:


Sometimes Pearl acts like crazy. :eek: :blink: :fear: Dates, comeback and bla bla bla.... for me, are pure bullshit. -_- Pearl speaks Michael as if he were playing hide and seek and one fine day he will return. :wtf: :smilerolleyes: :sigh:
 
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Yea she is over the effin top at times. But, I posted for the Dick Gregory part only, really. That's if it's even true? lol
 
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Yea she is over the effin top at times.

Yes, sometimes she is > :crazy: But sometimes Pearl says something that makes sense.






But, I posted for the Dick Gregory part only, really. That's if it's even true? lol

Maybe..... :fear:
 
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Galileo was ridiculed for going against the norm by saying the Earth was not flat..

Being a fan of Michael should have taught us not to ridicule others. Remember what they did to Michael? Those who are ridiculed often speak truth.

Pearl jr. has been experiencing 'synchronicities' for some time now, and is laying a lot of information right out there for those who choose to see it.

Who can blame those that wish Michael were with us. Wouldn't we all want that?

Maybe, just maybe, it would be helpful if we opened our minds to possibilities...

Michael, I Am filled with Love for you.. wherever You Are. :wub:

Love to all. :wub:

Working on 888 now. lol
 
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Galileo was ridiculed for going against the norm by saying the Earth was not flat...

Galileo was condemned of heresy by the Catholic church for saying the Earth revolved around the Sun. This did not coincide with Catholic views of the time. However, Galileo, unlike beLIEvers, had concrete and indisputable evidence to prove his point (and then there's always Copernicus who actually was the one to discover that lol).

In this scenario, beLIEvers would be more comparable to the Catholics, for holding onto something which has no concreteness to it and only floats about via vagueness, supposed "clues," the "power" of belief, and the hope of a supposedly dead person coming back at a given point in the future.

Also, I think PearlJr is somewhat insane. She did get to see Flanagan in person, though, and of that alone I'm envious. But seriously, she's insane--she's talked to some "psychic" con lady who said MJ was supposed to come back on July 2011 and when this [surprisingly...] did not take place, she moved on to something else.

Here is that:



Although, admittedly, some of the beLIEver observations are rather uncanny. Like the one where there was a bunny rabbit stuffed plushie next to Flanagan's head. =o

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I wonder what it could mean?

They both have white hair. Also, there was also a Hungry Hungry Hippo on Judge Pastor's desk.
 
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Hmm, why the hurling of insults at others? Why bother judging others? Sources are sources, to be believed or not, as one chooses. No need to label others as insane because they hold a different viewpoint to your own.. MJ encouraged us not to judge.

How about we let others decide for themselves what to think, instead of labeling groups of people, placing them into categories and comparing them to other groups. Might I suggest people use their own minds.

To add, sometimes a source will be wrong about one or more things, but provide truth about something else.

I like to keep in mind my earlier point about those who ridicule...
 
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^I didn't say beLIEvers were insane. I understand the psychology of what they are going through. I said PearlJr is insane because most of what she says makes no sense, and some of what she's readily endorsed (i.e. this psychic and July 2011 comeback date) is completely nuts and very evidently later proven untrue. Yet, even so, people keep tuning in to her...incredible, really.

Also, you were the first one to compare one thing to another when you compared beLIEvers to Galileo. I merely pointed out you've got that whole comparison wrong in the scenario you gave. I would have never brought it up had you not had the utter nerve to compare people who scrape the barrel for "clues" to one of the greatest scientific minds to ever grace mankind.
 
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lol

Sorry dude, I'm not taking the bait.

Find someone else to drag into an argument.

Love you MJ! :wub:

I'm out for now. Keep asking questions guys.. about everything.
 
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^There is no "bait" to take. Also, I'm a girl.
 
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Here's a little encouragement from Michael:

 
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Why do some still come on this thread if they could care less about the subject matter...bored are we now? lmao

Thank god it only happens occasionally! lol But, secretly they do care...sorry but, it's the truth! ;)
 
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Why do some still come on this thread if they could care less about the subject matter...bored are we now? lmao

Thank god it only happens occasionally! lol But, secretly they do care...sorry but, it's the truth! ;)

Because there are some weird things in the entire scheme of things, and I like to see what people have to say about it. I just don't appreciate the Galileo comparison, it's ridiculous. Also, PearlJr is not the sanest of people [although she has pointed out some curious stuff], I've seen other hoaxers with much better and more compelling arguments.

I'm still of the opinion that Michael is unfortunately gone, but you never know.

Also, it was around 1-2am when I came to see what was up here--bored, yes. I'm an insomniac. Cure me.
 
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I was watching a documentary about Lady Diana"s death ( which is also highly suspicious...). I was wondering...what would it be like if Michael had a public funeral like she did. They are both very loved . But ..it would be more controversial...there would be a lot of crazy fans , I doubt the police could control it.
Anyway...coming here is saving my common sense , no matter how strange that might sound.
It has been 2 and a half years now and some things are getting clear.
You know what makes me so angry and jelaous...other fans can talk like " hey..did you hear what Beyonce said...did you see her latest picture..etc.."
We can"t. We must live in the past.
 
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You know what makes me so angry and jelaous...other fans can talk like " hey..did you hear what Beyonce said...did you see her latest picture..etc.."
We can"t. We must live in the past.

That's why in some ways I envy those who can believe Michael will come back, they at least have something to look forward to.
 
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^^^^
Yes.....that is why I think I am a split-personality. How can I be so sad and have faith at the same time......
 
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