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maybe a blond qyestion, me being blond 
Why doe you want to live in a house with your kids if everyone wants u out?? what kind of example is that to your kids? And who is she to stay???? why is this even a issue?
thought somebody in your house u dont want them you call the police and make them arrest the person (s)
???????
Why doe you want to live in a house with your kids if everyone wants u out?? what kind of example is that to your kids? And who is she to stay???? why is this even a issue?
thought somebody in your house u dont want them you call the police and make them arrest the person (s)
???????
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Michael Jackson Sued; Jackson Family Home May Wind Up In Hands Of Creditors In Fraud Suit
Business Wire, May 9, 1996
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SANTA BARBARA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 9, 1996--The Los Angeles County mansion where pop star Michael Jackson grew up and his parents still reside may wind up in the hands of a Korean newspaper after the Jackson family lost a $4 million lawsuit for fraud and theft, according to attorneys for the newspaper.
Attorneys for the Segye Times of Seoul, Korea, late yesterday filed a lawsuit in Santa Barbara County Superior Court against Michael Jackson to take ownership of the home of Joseph and Katherine Jackson. The ownership is legally listed in Michael Jackson's name.
The lawsuit alleges that "Katherine, Joseph and Michael conspired to hinder, delay and defraud the Jackson parents' creditors."
The suit claims that the legal title to the family's mansion at 4641 Hayvenhurst Ave., Encino, was transferred into Michael Jackson's name, while the parents continued to reside there, so that creditors, such as the newspaper, could not collect their debts.
The lawsuit contends the Jackson family mansion actually belongs to Michael Jackson's parents and that the family is playing a "legal shell game" to keep the home from being taken from creditors, according to Edwin Bradley, an attorney for the Segye Times.
In February 1994, the newspaper's attorneys obtained a trial judgment finding that defendants Mr. and Mrs. Jackson, Jermaine Jackson and promoter Kenneth Choi, had wrongly taken concert money advanced by the Segye Times, a major Korean daily newspaper.
The judgment against the defendants was for $2 million in actual damages and $2 million in punitive damages.
The basis of the lawsuit was that the newspaper paid a $5.5 million advance for a concert by Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. The money was placed into what the newspaper believed was an escrow account. However, according to the lawsuit, the defendants took $2 million of the advance to purchase gifts and make cash payments to themselves and extended family and staff; the concert never took place.
The ownership of the Jackson family mansion has exchanged hands within the Jackson family numerous times over the past decade, according to the lawsuit, all in an attempt to keep creditors from collecting debts.
The suit alleges that Mr. and Mrs. Jackson "embarked upon a scheme and course of conduct to divest themselves of legal title of the Hayvenhurst property, while retaining the equitable and beneficial ownership" of the mansion.
In 1983, Mr. and Mrs. Jackson purportedly conveyed to their son Michael a 50 percent interest in the property, retaining the other 50 percent ownership in their name. Then, later that same year, Mr. Jackson purportedly conveyed his remaining 25 percent interest to his son.
In 1987, Mrs. Jackson purportedly deeded her remaining 25 percent interest to daughter LaToya Jackson. In 1990, Mrs. Jackson sued her daughter to return her 25 percent interest because that interest "was in jeopardy as community property and subject to loss in the event of any adverse litigation involving other family members."
In 1993, a deed was recorded in which Mrs. Jackson "who previously conveyed to (and withdraws from) LaToya Jackson, as nominee only, an undivided 25 percent interest" and then purportedly conveyed that interest to her son Michael as "nominee only."
The lawsuit seeking ownership of the Jackson family mansion for the Segye Times newspaper alleges that "in making the transfers... Katherine, Joseph and Michael agreed and knowingly and willfully conspired between themselves to hinder, delay and defraud Katherine and Joseph's creditors, including Segye, in the collection of their claims against Katherine and Joseph."
The lawsuit was filed in Santa Barbara County because that is where Michael jackson now resides. For a copy of the lawsuit or more information, call Kerosky & Bradley at 415-777-4445
CONTACT: Christopher Kerosky or Edwin Bradley, 415/777-4445
Gary Hill, 805/963-1453
COPYRIGHT 1996 Business Wire
COPYRIGHT 2008 Gale, Cengage Learning
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1996_May_9/ai_18267218/
Business Wire, May 9, 1996
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SANTA BARBARA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 9, 1996--The Los Angeles County mansion where pop star Michael Jackson grew up and his parents still reside may wind up in the hands of a Korean newspaper after the Jackson family lost a $4 million lawsuit for fraud and theft, according to attorneys for the newspaper.
Attorneys for the Segye Times of Seoul, Korea, late yesterday filed a lawsuit in Santa Barbara County Superior Court against Michael Jackson to take ownership of the home of Joseph and Katherine Jackson. The ownership is legally listed in Michael Jackson's name.
The lawsuit alleges that "Katherine, Joseph and Michael conspired to hinder, delay and defraud the Jackson parents' creditors."
The suit claims that the legal title to the family's mansion at 4641 Hayvenhurst Ave., Encino, was transferred into Michael Jackson's name, while the parents continued to reside there, so that creditors, such as the newspaper, could not collect their debts.
The lawsuit contends the Jackson family mansion actually belongs to Michael Jackson's parents and that the family is playing a "legal shell game" to keep the home from being taken from creditors, according to Edwin Bradley, an attorney for the Segye Times.
In February 1994, the newspaper's attorneys obtained a trial judgment finding that defendants Mr. and Mrs. Jackson, Jermaine Jackson and promoter Kenneth Choi, had wrongly taken concert money advanced by the Segye Times, a major Korean daily newspaper.
The judgment against the defendants was for $2 million in actual damages and $2 million in punitive damages.
The basis of the lawsuit was that the newspaper paid a $5.5 million advance for a concert by Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. The money was placed into what the newspaper believed was an escrow account. However, according to the lawsuit, the defendants took $2 million of the advance to purchase gifts and make cash payments to themselves and extended family and staff; the concert never took place.
The ownership of the Jackson family mansion has exchanged hands within the Jackson family numerous times over the past decade, according to the lawsuit, all in an attempt to keep creditors from collecting debts.
The suit alleges that Mr. and Mrs. Jackson "embarked upon a scheme and course of conduct to divest themselves of legal title of the Hayvenhurst property, while retaining the equitable and beneficial ownership" of the mansion.
In 1983, Mr. and Mrs. Jackson purportedly conveyed to their son Michael a 50 percent interest in the property, retaining the other 50 percent ownership in their name. Then, later that same year, Mr. Jackson purportedly conveyed his remaining 25 percent interest to his son.
In 1987, Mrs. Jackson purportedly deeded her remaining 25 percent interest to daughter LaToya Jackson. In 1990, Mrs. Jackson sued her daughter to return her 25 percent interest because that interest "was in jeopardy as community property and subject to loss in the event of any adverse litigation involving other family members."
In 1993, a deed was recorded in which Mrs. Jackson "who previously conveyed to (and withdraws from) LaToya Jackson, as nominee only, an undivided 25 percent interest" and then purportedly conveyed that interest to her son Michael as "nominee only."
The lawsuit seeking ownership of the Jackson family mansion for the Segye Times newspaper alleges that "in making the transfers... Katherine, Joseph and Michael agreed and knowingly and willfully conspired between themselves to hinder, delay and defraud Katherine and Joseph's creditors, including Segye, in the collection of their claims against Katherine and Joseph."
The lawsuit was filed in Santa Barbara County because that is where Michael jackson now resides. For a copy of the lawsuit or more information, call Kerosky & Bradley at 415-777-4445
CONTACT: Christopher Kerosky or Edwin Bradley, 415/777-4445
Gary Hill, 805/963-1453
COPYRIGHT 1996 Business Wire
COPYRIGHT 2008 Gale, Cengage Learning
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1996_May_9/ai_18267218/
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^^ Marc, the Koreans were WRONG.
MJ bought 50% of that house from his parents (they were having money issue ...no surprise) in early 80's.
MJ had 50%, Joe 25% & Katherine 25%.
Joe later sold his 25% to MJ because he needed money. Katherine also sold a big chunk of her share as their money situation became more precarious.
But late 80's, Katherine had 5% remaining...but when the korean tried to collect their 4M, Katherine transfer her title to Latoya (very shady move) to protect her 5%.
I know there was a family feud at some point, because years later Katherine wanted her 5% back and Latoya wouldn't.
By the way, here is Latoya's bankruptcy document (unrelated to this thread)
The trust they setup to pay her debtors is still active, so she is not out of bankruptcy per say.
http://www.nysb.uscourts.gov/opinions/jmp/2531_422_opinion.pdf
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Hmmmm..I recall Katherine did sell part of her 25%...unless MJ did not take the title from his mom.
Lol at Katherine suing Latoya... a mess.
That family has been on a downward spiral for years...
So, here I conclude Katherine transferred her title to Michael in 93. Marc, do you know when Katherine & Joe filed for bankruptcy? She might have transferred prior to filing..AGAIN to hide the asset.
We need to find out what happened AFTER 1993..nominee doesn't mean ownership.
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MJ bought 50% of that house from his parents (they were having money issue ...no surprise) in early 80's.
MJ had 50%, Joe 25% & Katherine 25%.
Joe later sold his 25% to MJ because he needed money. Katherine also sold a big chunk of her share as their money situation became more precarious.
But late 80's, Katherine had 5% remaining...but when the korean tried to collect their 4M, Katherine transfer her title to Latoya (very shady move) to protect her 5%.
I know there was a family feud at some point, because years later Katherine wanted her 5% back and Latoya wouldn't.
By the way, here is Latoya's bankruptcy document (unrelated to this thread)
The trust they setup to pay her debtors is still active, so she is not out of bankruptcy per say.
http://www.nysb.uscourts.gov/opinions/jmp/2531_422_opinion.pdf
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Hmmmm..I recall Katherine did sell part of her 25%...unless MJ did not take the title from his mom.
Lol at Katherine suing Latoya... a mess.
That family has been on a downward spiral for years...
So, here I conclude Katherine transferred her title to Michael in 93. Marc, do you know when Katherine & Joe filed for bankruptcy? She might have transferred prior to filing..AGAIN to hide the asset.
We need to find out what happened AFTER 1993..nominee doesn't mean ownership.
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This is what a judge must say normaly about this situation ( I have 1 cousin who is lawyer and his girlfriends studies the law):
- Michael Jackson was your ex-husband madam ? ( to Alejandra )
- Michael Jackson is the father of your children ?
- Michael Jackson put you and your children on his will ?
- Where are the fathers of your children ?
- Why you want absolutly put a dead man who wasn't your husband or partner, to take care of you and your family ?
Result : You have to live this house, in 1 week, if not the police will come to put you outside. You have to ask to your ex-husbands, fathers of your kids to take care of you and your children. Michael Jackson ( so the Estate now ) has nothing to do with your problems madam.
It's really simple to resolve this situation, it's between you and the fathers of the kids madam.
Easy!
- Michael Jackson was your ex-husband madam ? ( to Alejandra )
- Michael Jackson is the father of your children ?
- Michael Jackson put you and your children on his will ?
- Where are the fathers of your children ?
- Why you want absolutly put a dead man who wasn't your husband or partner, to take care of you and your family ?
Result : You have to live this house, in 1 week, if not the police will come to put you outside. You have to ask to your ex-husbands, fathers of your kids to take care of you and your children. Michael Jackson ( so the Estate now ) has nothing to do with your problems madam.
It's really simple to resolve this situation, it's between you and the fathers of the kids madam.
Easy!
Standoff continues at Michael Jackson house
Alejandra Jackson -- the squatter who has been living at Katherine Jackson's family compound against Katherine's will -- just bought more time in the house, thanks to a judge's ruling.
Alejandra -- the baby mama of both Randy and Jermaine Jackson -- has been living at the Encino compound for nearly 20 years. The Estate wants her out and has offered her a condo in move-in condition, but Alejandra was not budging.
Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman said the snag in the move was that Alejandra refused to sign a confidentiality agreement and he claims she's in the process of hawking a tell-all book. Alejandra refused to sign the agreement and was also demanding money in addition to the condo ...
The judge just ruled that Alejandra could stay in the house for another month, until there's a full trial on whether she can be evicted.
Trial date is April 14.
Alejandra Jackson -- the squatter who has been living at Katherine Jackson's family compound against Katherine's will -- just bought more time in the house, thanks to a judge's ruling.
Alejandra -- the baby mama of both Randy and Jermaine Jackson -- has been living at the Encino compound for nearly 20 years. The Estate wants her out and has offered her a condo in move-in condition, but Alejandra was not budging.
Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman said the snag in the move was that Alejandra refused to sign a confidentiality agreement and he claims she's in the process of hawking a tell-all book. Alejandra refused to sign the agreement and was also demanding money in addition to the condo ...
The judge just ruled that Alejandra could stay in the house for another month, until there's a full trial on whether she can be evicted.
Trial date is April 14.
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Thanks for the update.
The ruling sounds about right, in my opinion. She got 30 more days, I hope she get's her affairs in order.
And the Jackson Family better prepare themselves for MORE BAD NEWS, because a trial is only going to reveal MORE of their dirty laundry,
i.e. Jermaine's deadbeat issues and why she has lived at that home for all of these years.
I don't know if Randy Jackson has any deadbeat issues, but if he does, they will be revealed in open court as well.
Shoot, by the time they finish, she won't need to release a "tell-all" book, because it will all be public knowledge on April 14, 2011.
The ruling sounds about right, in my opinion. She got 30 more days, I hope she get's her affairs in order.
And the Jackson Family better prepare themselves for MORE BAD NEWS, because a trial is only going to reveal MORE of their dirty laundry,
i.e. Jermaine's deadbeat issues and why she has lived at that home for all of these years.
I don't know if Randy Jackson has any deadbeat issues, but if he does, they will be revealed in open court as well.
Shoot, by the time they finish, she won't need to release a "tell-all" book, because it will all be public knowledge on April 14, 2011.
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even if Latoya is co owner if her moms wanta alejandra out she's not gonna disagree. Alejandra should have taken the condo. Well they have a month maybe she'll come to her sense or they'll make an agreement because this should not have to be taken to court.
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Moulin Rouge;3296520 said:
Jermaine Jackson needs to come home and handle this situation!
Why should his EIGHTY-YEAR OLD mother be left to deal with this madness.
An agreement SHOULD be worked out and that agreement SHOULD include Jermaine Jackson handling his responsibilities so that his mother and the Estate of his dead brother don't have to.
Memefan;3296506 said:
It seems like it's a standard procedure for any eviction requests (a summary of relevant info below. full handbook can be reached from the link at the bottom)
Overview of the eviction process
If the tenant doesn't voluntarily move out after the landlord has properly given the required notice to the tenant, the landlord can evict the tenant. In order to evict the tenant, the landlord must file an unlawful detainer lawsuit in superior court.
An unlawful detainer lawsuit is a "summary" court procedure. This means that the court action moves forward very quickly, and that the time given the tenant to respond during the lawsuit is very short. For example, in most cases, the tenant has only five days to file a written response to the lawsuit after being served with a copy of the landlord's summons and complaint. Normally, a judge will hear and decide the case within 20 days after the tenant or the landlord files a request to set the case for trial.
The court-administered eviction process assures the tenant of the right to a court hearing if the tenant believes that the landlord has no right to evict the tenant. The landlord must use this court process to evict the tenant; the landlord cannot use self-help measures to force the tenant to move.
In an unlawful detainer lawsuit, the court holds a hearing at which the parties can present their evidence and explain their case. If the court finds that the tenant has a good defense, the court will not evict the tenant. If the court decides in favor of the tenant, the tenant will not have to move, and the landlord may be ordered to pay court costs (for example, the tenant's filing fees). The landlord also may have to pay the tenant's attorney's fees, if the rental agreement contains an attorney's fee clause and if the tenant was represented by an attorney.
If the court decides in favor of the landlord, the court will issue a writ of possession. The writ of possession orders the sheriff to remove the tenant from the rental unit, but gives the tenant five days from the date that the writ is served to leave voluntarily. If the tenant does not leave by the end of the fifth day, the writ of possession authorizes the sheriff to physically remove and lock the tenant out, and seize (take) the tenant's belongings that have been left in the rental unit. The landlord is not entitled to possession of the rental unit until after the sheriff has removed the tenant.
http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/evictions.shtml
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Wow this is a mess!! I wouldn't want to fight to stay in a house that no one wants me in. WTF?!
Attorneys for Michael Jackson’s Estate appeared in a Los Angeles courtroom Tuesday morning in an effort to evict Alejandra Jackson and her four children, but RadarOnline.com has learned she refused to leave the compound and the case has been set for trial.
Alejandra is Katherine Jackson’s former daughter-in-law and has children with both Jermaine Jackson and Randy Jackson.
“She has lived at the property for 20 years. We pay for everything,” the Estate’s attorney Howard Weitzman said in court.
“We have provided her with a fully furnished condo, which is more than sufficient. It’s time for her to move.”
Alejandra’s refusal to move from the Encino home is causing delays in renovations that are underway at the house, and it was noted by Judge Mitchell Beckloff that Katherine and Michael's three children have already relocated so the remodeling can take place.
Katherine has offered Alejandra a condominium near her swanky rental in Calabasas that she and her children could move into, but on the condition that she won’t write a tell-all book about Michael and sign a confidentiality agreement – but Alejandra refused to agree to those terms.
“They have lived there for 20 years, so they are not just guests there,” Alejandra’s attorney, Robert Kaufman, said.
With neither side budging, a trial date has been set for April 14, 2011.
“What’s happened today, essentially Alejandra has been given an additional 30 days to stay in a house that she’s not entitled to live in,” Weitzman said.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-refuses-leave-michael-jacksons-encino-estate
Alejandra is Katherine Jackson’s former daughter-in-law and has children with both Jermaine Jackson and Randy Jackson.
“She has lived at the property for 20 years. We pay for everything,” the Estate’s attorney Howard Weitzman said in court.
“We have provided her with a fully furnished condo, which is more than sufficient. It’s time for her to move.”
Alejandra’s refusal to move from the Encino home is causing delays in renovations that are underway at the house, and it was noted by Judge Mitchell Beckloff that Katherine and Michael's three children have already relocated so the remodeling can take place.
Katherine has offered Alejandra a condominium near her swanky rental in Calabasas that she and her children could move into, but on the condition that she won’t write a tell-all book about Michael and sign a confidentiality agreement – but Alejandra refused to agree to those terms.
“They have lived there for 20 years, so they are not just guests there,” Alejandra’s attorney, Robert Kaufman, said.
With neither side budging, a trial date has been set for April 14, 2011.
“What’s happened today, essentially Alejandra has been given an additional 30 days to stay in a house that she’s not entitled to live in,” Weitzman said.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-refuses-leave-michael-jacksons-encino-estate
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ivy;3296622 said:
Thanks Ivy, I agree that this is standard procedure for an eviction.
Although we know that Alejandra's situation is a bit different in that she never paid rent and we know she never had a RENTAL AGREEMENT. LOL!
In my opinion, technically she would be considered a LONG-TERM HOUSE GUEST.
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Attorneys for Michael Jackson’s Estate appeared in a Los Angeles courtroom Tuesday morning in an effort to evict Alejandra Jackson and her four children, but RadarOnline.com has learned she refused to leave the compound and the case has been set for trial.
Alejandra is Katherine Jackson’s former daughter-in-law and has children with both Jermaine Jackson and Randy Jackson.
“She has lived at the property for 20 years. We pay for everything,” the Estate’s attorney Howard Weitzman said in court.
“We have provided her with a fully furnished condo, which is more than sufficient. It’s time for her to move.”
Alejandra’s refusal to move from the Encino home is causing delays in renovations that are underway at the house, and it was noted by Judge Mitchell Beckloff that Katherine and Michael's three children have already relocated so the remodeling can take place.
Katherine has offered Alejandra a condominium near her swanky rental in Calabasas that she and her children could move into, but on the condition that she won’t write a tell-all book about Michael and sign a confidentiality agreement – but Alejandra refused to agree to those terms.
“They have lived there for 20 years, so they are not just guests there,” Alejandra’s attorney, Robert Kaufman, said.
With neither side budging, a trial date has been set for April 14, 2011.
“What’s happened today, essentially Alejandra has been given an additional 30 days to stay in a house that she’s not entitled to live in,” Weitzman said.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-refuses-leave-michael-jacksons-encino-estate
Alejandra is Katherine Jackson’s former daughter-in-law and has children with both Jermaine Jackson and Randy Jackson.
“She has lived at the property for 20 years. We pay for everything,” the Estate’s attorney Howard Weitzman said in court.
“We have provided her with a fully furnished condo, which is more than sufficient. It’s time for her to move.”
Alejandra’s refusal to move from the Encino home is causing delays in renovations that are underway at the house, and it was noted by Judge Mitchell Beckloff that Katherine and Michael's three children have already relocated so the remodeling can take place.
Katherine has offered Alejandra a condominium near her swanky rental in Calabasas that she and her children could move into, but on the condition that she won’t write a tell-all book about Michael and sign a confidentiality agreement – but Alejandra refused to agree to those terms.
“They have lived there for 20 years, so they are not just guests there,” Alejandra’s attorney, Robert Kaufman, said.
With neither side budging, a trial date has been set for April 14, 2011.
“What’s happened today, essentially Alejandra has been given an additional 30 days to stay in a house that she’s not entitled to live in,” Weitzman said.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-refuses-leave-michael-jacksons-encino-estate
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They are not guest but seeing how she is not paying for rent for anything how can she justify her not leaving? If you stop paying your rent a landlord can throw you out. if you are paying rent and not breaking any rules then they can't throw you out.
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Justthefacts;3296654 said:
That's what they would be considered in a Court Of Law.
If you live somewhere and don't contribute financially to the household at all, then you are considered a "guest" of the home's owner.
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Alejandra is working on becoming a "Reality TV Superstar".
Expect:
Think "Housewife of Hayvenhurst", and, therefore, she thinks she deserves a Reality TV show, a Tell-All Book, the house, and the MONEY.
She thrives in scandalous situations.
Randy and Jermaine disgust me for allowing this to happen.
Did the judge not say anything about these two deadbeat fathers?
My advice to Alejandra is to take the Condo, and stop being so d@#* greedy.
Thank God, Michael Jackson's children and heirs: Prince, Paris, and Blanket no longer have to live with her. :angel:
Expect:
Think "Housewife of Hayvenhurst", and, therefore, she thinks she deserves a Reality TV show, a Tell-All Book, the house, and the MONEY.
She thrives in scandalous situations.
Randy and Jermaine disgust me for allowing this to happen.
Did the judge not say anything about these two deadbeat fathers?
My advice to Alejandra is to take the Condo, and stop being so d@#* greedy.
Thank God, Michael Jackson's children and heirs: Prince, Paris, and Blanket no longer have to live with her. :angel:
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WHO the hel ldoes she think hes is..thats what I would like to know?? ...she is more or less holding what she knows about Michael..hostage...thats what she is doing. So it is either they let her stay there OR she will write a tell all book about Michael...and she refuses to sign confidentiality agreement. This chic needs to be TONED out on her ass...she really does. Michael Jackson estate owes her NOTHING...why cant she get THAT through her head...disgusting that is what she is.
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CherubimII;3296694 said:
I don't believe the Judge would bring that issue up during a hearing, BUT during the trial is a whole other ballgame.
She has no visible income of her own and she receives no child support. Those TWO issues will definitely be addressed at the trial.
Which is only going to serve as a platform for Jermaine's non-payment of child support OWED and child support still to be paid, since his two children with Alejandra are still minors.
I don't believe Judge Beckloff has any authority regarding Family Court matters, but he can certainly make a RECOMMENDATION as to how Alejandra should proceed in order to obtain that back child-support from Jermaine Jackson.
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In my opinion, they ain't worried about what she says about Michael.xthunderx2;3296701 said:
KATHERINE JACKSON is concerned about what Alejandra may say about Randy and Jermaine. I remember reading about her telling Oprah that: "All of my son's are GOOD fathers." LOL!
The Jackson family, wants folks to CONTINUE to believe that their family is a solid unit, a shining beacon, and a role model for all, in my opinion.
(All my son's are good fathers. I don't know how she was able to say that with a straight face. LOL)
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I agree. :agree:Big Apple2;3296737 said:
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you are so right Big Apple.. Jermaine is hundreds of thousands of dollars behind on child support and she say he is a good father?
Katherine should be ashamed of herself too for allowing Alejandra to blackmail her over the years. Mike wasn't even at Hayvenhurst 20 years ago. He had bought Neverland in 1987. Alejandra might be saying what Jermaine and Randy said about MJ though and that is what they don't want out.
Katherine should be ashamed of herself too for allowing Alejandra to blackmail her over the years. Mike wasn't even at Hayvenhurst 20 years ago. He had bought Neverland in 1987. Alejandra might be saying what Jermaine and Randy said about MJ though and that is what they don't want out.
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TMZ will talk about that
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StacyJ;3296767 said:
Oh I definitely believe that is another issue of concern.
Alejandra has been in the house for 20+ years. I'm sure she has heard exactly what Jermaine may have thought about Michael not wanting to join the brothers on stage again. And whatever was REALLY going on between Jermaine and Stacy Brown. You know when you are upset over a particular issue, you may say something in the heat of the moment that you don't want repeated.
Samething goes for Randy Jackson and his numerous failed attemps at wanting Michael to enter into some sort of business arrangement with him.
In my opinion, Alejandra's story will revolve around what the JACKSON FAMILY had to say about Michael, when they thought nobody was listening.
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Push Comes to Shove In Jackson Eviction Case
(CNS) Posted Monday March 14, 2011 – 12:19pm
A judge today scheduled an eviction trial to determine if the former wife of two of Michael Jackson's brothers can remain in the family's Encino home, which is being renovated.
Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell L. Beckloff scheduled the trial for April 25 when the two sides were unable to agree on a plan for Alejandra Jackson and her children to move to a condominium.
The condo would be paid for by the late singer's estate in exchange for her agreeing not to write a tell-all book about the family.
Lawyers for the woman also said their client might have a palimony interest in the Jackson family compound. She was previously married to Randy Jackson and later to Jermaine Jackson.
Beckloff said he hoped the eviction trial could be averted through negotiations.
``What makes sense is for you all to make some kind of agreement, especially with minor children involved,' the judge said.
Attorney Howard Weitzman, representing the estate, told Beckloff he preferred going to trial sooner.
``The frustration is they are getting another free month of rent,' Weitzman said.
Weitzman said he believed Alejandra Jackson should have to pay for part of the utilities while she is living at the Encino compound.
But Robert Kashfian, on behalf of Alejandra Jackson, said that would be illegal.
He also said needs extra time to prepare for the trial because he wants to take the deposition of Katherine Jackson.
The family matriarch, who is living elsewhere during the renovation, may have said things to her former daughter-in-law that could help his client's case, Kashfian said.
Michael Jackson alone held the title to the home, but his mother may have had the ability to act as his ``agent' and bind him to certain agreements with other people, including Alejandra Jackson, Kashfian said.
The Jackson estate has offered Alejandra Jackson and her children free use of a condominium until they become adults, provided that she sign to a confidentiality agreement. However, the woman's lawyers say she does not agree with the scope of the agreement as proposed by the estate.
http://www.bhcourier.com/article/Lo...Comes_to_Shove_In_Jackson_Eviction_Case/75119
(CNS) Posted Monday March 14, 2011 – 12:19pm
A judge today scheduled an eviction trial to determine if the former wife of two of Michael Jackson's brothers can remain in the family's Encino home, which is being renovated.
Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell L. Beckloff scheduled the trial for April 25 when the two sides were unable to agree on a plan for Alejandra Jackson and her children to move to a condominium.
The condo would be paid for by the late singer's estate in exchange for her agreeing not to write a tell-all book about the family.
Lawyers for the woman also said their client might have a palimony interest in the Jackson family compound. She was previously married to Randy Jackson and later to Jermaine Jackson.
Beckloff said he hoped the eviction trial could be averted through negotiations.
``What makes sense is for you all to make some kind of agreement, especially with minor children involved,' the judge said.
Attorney Howard Weitzman, representing the estate, told Beckloff he preferred going to trial sooner.
``The frustration is they are getting another free month of rent,' Weitzman said.
Weitzman said he believed Alejandra Jackson should have to pay for part of the utilities while she is living at the Encino compound.
But Robert Kashfian, on behalf of Alejandra Jackson, said that would be illegal.
He also said needs extra time to prepare for the trial because he wants to take the deposition of Katherine Jackson.
The family matriarch, who is living elsewhere during the renovation, may have said things to her former daughter-in-law that could help his client's case, Kashfian said.
Michael Jackson alone held the title to the home, but his mother may have had the ability to act as his ``agent' and bind him to certain agreements with other people, including Alejandra Jackson, Kashfian said.
The Jackson estate has offered Alejandra Jackson and her children free use of a condominium until they become adults, provided that she sign to a confidentiality agreement. However, the woman's lawyers say she does not agree with the scope of the agreement as proposed by the estate.
http://www.bhcourier.com/article/Lo...Comes_to_Shove_In_Jackson_Eviction_Case/75119