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[max000]

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Yeah but both Maury and Geraldo did great things for Michael when all hell broke Lose. Muary narating that Doc about what Bashir did and Gerlado always defended Michael and interviewed him. Those two never change thier mind about Michael's innocence I don't think.

Larry King is another one who would have been good.

Bottom feeders, Geraldo and Maury are not respected in or outside the industry. They blew their credibility yrs ago.

 

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

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So if Prince and Paris want to defend their daddy it is bad for you still? What is good then?

It's not that black and white. IF Mike Jr., Paris and Prince II do appear we don't know what kind of questions will be asked or if the Jacksons were able to screen and select questions.

So Paris, Mike Jr. and Prince II can say Michael was a great dad, etc. But what would stop Oprah from asking questions like: "Did your dad ever touch you inappropriately? Do you believe he's a pedophile? Is Michael your real dad? What was it like to see him die Prince?

Harsh I know. But we don't know what kind of questions they'll be asked. One day they may get asked these questions. I'm more concerned about that than how well the MJ3 will defend their dad - they are smart kids and I believe they can do that well. We've already seen it.

 

[bluetopez]

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But some will bash Michael to defend them. I have even heard someone claim that Michael was just ungrateful for all the wonderful help Randy gave him during the trial period. :mello:

:bugeyed:mello:....:hysterical: The same MJ who once publicly thanked his brother Randy during the trial?!....Wow some people are just....Well, Stupid!:doh:

 

[Big Apple2]

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It makes me so angry when I think about some of the things his family does. And I don't understand why they don't understand the implications of some of their actions. It really angers me, then it makes me sad.

I have the feeling that many others probably feel the same way.

I agree with you and for those who think that's being negative, I politely disagree.

Case in point:

When I saw Jermaine on with Matt Lauer, I felt Jermaine's pain and cried with him.

Then fastforward one year later and Jermaine is conducting an interview in front of Michael's final resting place. I found that to be very tacky.

I call them as I see them.

 

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

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:bugeyed:mello:....:hysterical: The same MJ who once publicly thanked his brother Randy during the trial?!....Wow some people are just....Well, Stupid!:doh:

Umm...I am referring to MJ's testimony in court about how Randy and his friend tried to coerce MJ into selling the Sony/ATV catalog. People suggested MJ was just making it up or that he was being ungrateful about Randy's help.

Sorry but no matter how hard you wish MJ's testimony about that and Randy's management of his funds won't go away. I know you are ignoring it. Of course MJ would thank Randy, he loves his brother. Just like he wouldn't publicly respond to 'Word to the Badd' :mello:

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

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if we are going to use that kids want to defend their daddy ,i wonder why Michael didn't use them to show the world how gr8 daddy he is? ,when whole world was calling him freak for protecting their privacy fiercely.answer is he was good parent ,he put himself in front line to protect his kids.that is what their guardian suppose to do .at the end of the day they are kids,they will be going through emotional tsunami when hearing starts ,why put so much burden on them is beyond my imagination and people defending that action are beyond my understanding.

 

[xrisx]

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So if Prince and Paris want to defend their daddy it is bad for you still? What is good then?

Look, I can understand that they want to do that and that's great. However it's a hard transition from watching Michael constantly trying to keep them out of the spotlight and protect them to all of a sudden see them getting interviewed. I think that's what hard for some fans here.
Why that is so hard to understand is something I don't really get.

I can understand your point and of course they want to stand up for their father, however it can still feel wrong and get fans worrying because would this be happening if Michael was still here? Through the years his actions have shown he wanted to protect them from the media that thrashed him for years. Is it that wrong that fans are worried that they will do the same to the kids? They are still just 8,12 & 13 years old even if they act wiser beyond their age.

I can see both sides (even if I don't fully agree with one side), I hope more fans will start seeing that and will just agree to disagree.
(This wasn't meant to be just aimed at you, no hard feelings. )

 

[StaceyMJ]

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So which menas that if someone from MJ family wants to defend Michael fans are allowed bash them for no reason like it is happaning now to Katherine his mother? I am very confused with this statement.

Bash Katherine? No, nobody is allowed to bash anybody, that's where the respect part of my post comes into play. You cannot tell me that you can see no reason for fans to be upset with Michael's family and their treatment of Michael which appears to be continuing. Now you cannot accuse me of bashing Katherine or allowing people to do so in this thread. If you look back through my posts in this thread you will see me saying quite the opposite and that I fear Katherine is being unfairly misadvised or misguided, perhaps to someone's gain?

So if Prince and Paris want to defend their daddy it is bad for you still? What is good then?

If they want to do that, then that is great and I've no doubt they will want to do that. What you have to realise is that some fans are not against them doing that, but remember how Michael was with the children appearing/speaking publicly? Yep that's right we never heard them speak publicly before June 2009 for a number of years. Public exposure is the one thing he fought most against for his babies, so because he's not here that should be disregarded? Unfortunately not all fans will agree either way. Please don't read comments at face value and pretend not to see the deeper meaning behind them. I feel you're on the attack way too much here, and making people out to be 'evil' or something when they really really aren't.

Peace.

 

[marebear]

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I hope the kids are not interviewed. Michael would hate that. Maybe when they are older but not right now. When they are older they can do whatever they choose to do. Here is a woman who practically said their daddy was a bad man and she is all nice and sweet to them? It's not right. I understand trying to help Michael but the kids should be off limits. I am hoping for the best here.

 

[twinklEE]

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Other sites may have this behaviour but we are not one of them. Yes we ask that respect is shown towards members of Michael's family for example no extreme name calling, no potentially libellous claims made against them without proof etc but this is a Michael Joseph Jackson community. Michael Joseph Jackson is the person who comes first here, not the Jackson family.

Exactly! Rep for you Miss Sophielo

Seriously though, Michael is our first, last, and only concern here, apart from his beautiful three children. Always have been always will be. I'm sorry if it comes across the wrong way sometimes, but that is surely not our intention. We do ask for respect, always.

We have had many disagreements in the past, but I do believe you guys on this one. This board is by far the most open minded, and Michael focused board, of all the MJ boards out there. Some have turned into a Jackson family Stan board and don't even have the guts to change their name.

 

[janena]

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I was thinking that mayby Katherine wants to adress many people in the USA but also outside the US...

Oprah's show is the only one that is shown all over the world i think...

Other american talkshows are shown in the US but not over here....
If it werent for Michael i wouldnt know most of these american talkshow-hosts...

 

[Sophielo]

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Michael was someone who would go into a store and turn the covers of magazines and newspapers with negative stuff about him just so his kids could not see them. He kept them protected from a lot of things. Yes Prince and Paris aren't small children anymore but they're still young who have had a very distressing time over the last 16 months. Yes we saw pictures of the kids without masks on before Michael passed but they were off guard moments. Like Stace said just because Michael isn't here anymore why should his wishes for his children be ignored? We all have very differing opinions on the subject but I'm scared about the questions that might be asked of them if this is indeed true. That's too much for any 13 and 12 year old, especially on national TV.

 

[virginia_woolf]

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We have had many disagreements in the past, but I do believe you guys on this one. This board is by far the most open minded, and Michael focused board, of all the MJ boards out there. Some have turned into a Jackson family Stan board and don't even have the guts to change their name.

True. Thank God for mjjc. :wub:

 

[bluetopez]

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Umm...I am referring to MJ's testimony in court about how Randy and his friend tried to coerce MJ into selling the Sony/ATV catalog. People suggested MJ was just making it up or that he was being ungrateful about Randy's help.

Sorry but no matter how hard you wish MJ's testimony about that and Randy's management of his funds won't go away. I know you are ignoring it. Of course MJ would thank Randy, he loves his brother. Just like he wouldn't publicly respond to 'Word to the Badd' :mello:

^WHAT THE....?:mello:

Ummm...Yes, I do know what u are talking about! But, I don't think you understood what I meant?!:scratch: My response was laughing at those who thought MJ was lying and saying MJ didn't appreciate Randy's help! Which is not true because MJ indeed at one point did knowledge what Randy did for him during the time when he thought Randy had his back! Before he found out different and spoke about it in court!

So, I'm not ignoring anything!:smilerolleyes: And yes, MJ didn't like throwing his family under the bus or publicly scolding them for there wrong on things they said and did to him! Even though he should have!

I hope u understand me this time? :scratch:lol

 

[max000]

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And here we go again. Why freak out over the rumors? How many times have the children been mentioned that they were participating in stuff that they were NOT. Don't you think the person that leaked photos to TMZ would have also leaked photos of MJ3 being interviewed or at least in the room? Would those not have been the photos that got the most $$. And if they were, then Katherine made the decision she thought best.

If OPRAH interviewed the kids, that room was cleared, only a hand full of people would be present. OPRAH is yet to make an announcement about the jacksons interview. If indeed the kids were interviewed, OPRAH will promo that at the last minute for maximum results.

Know that the report about OPRAH interviewing the kids came from the gossip page of the tabloid NY daily news, hardly a pulizter winning publication.

 

[ivy]

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So if Prince and Paris want to defend their daddy it is bad for you still? What is good then?

first of all how are we gonna know that they want to defend their daddy and not someone in the family said that they should participate in such an interview? How are we going to know that whether they were being influenced or not?

secondly are they ready for such things?. I'll be honest, forget all "they are mature kids" talk, 13 and 12 years old doesn't equal to being an adult and knowing what they want to do for sure. Didn't you watch the Grammy's : Blanket being afraid to go on stage, Prince and Paris having hard time giving their speeches. That was just reading a memorized speech, no one was asking them questions. I don't know about anyone else but to me they don't look ready to be interviewed on National TV.

and finally what about Michael? If he wanted or needed his kids to defend him , he could have done it for years. they could have put on the witness stand in the 2005 trial (they were on the defense witness list) or he could have paraded his "normal" children around to show that he's "normal" or they could have given interviews saying how much they loved their daddy. On the contrary they were kept away and secure. So the question will be would Michael wanted his kids to be used to defend him?

so therefore for me it's not that easy.

I'm still keeping the hope that the news about the kids participating isn't the truth.

 

[love is magical]

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I'm confused, really confused. All these Oprah interviews that may be broadcasted soon are very puzzling.

First, there was rumor about an interview with Lisa Marie Presley. Now, an interview with the Jacksons. And, Michael's children may be part of the interview??? I don't believe in tabloids. But, I'm concerned.

I don't want to judge prematurely. If Katherine decided to go to Oprah to set the record straight, she must have a reason to do so. I still believe she loves Michael with all her heart. Also, she's one of the Estate's beneficiaries. It doesn't make sense for her to do anything that will cause negative impact to Michael's legacy; athough it's hard to explain her decision to sue AEG.

I haven't even seen the interview, so how can I say it's a good idea or not.

I hope Oprah has enough sense to know that some questions are off limit to Michael's children. It doesn't matter how she, or her target audience, thinks of Michael. The children are innocent. It's not right to cause sufferings and humiliations to children, any children, not just Michael's children.

 

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

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^WHAT THE....?:mello:

Ummm...Yes, I do know what u are talking about! But, I don't think you understood what I meant?!:scratch: My response was laughing at those who thought MJ was lying and saying MJ didn't appreciate Randy's help! Which is not true because MJ indeed at one point did knowledge what Randy did for him during the time when he thought Randy had his back! Before he found out different and spoke about it in court!

So, I'm not ignoring anything!:smilerolleyes: And yes, MJ didn't like throwing his family under the bus or publicly scolding them for there wrong on things they said and did to him! Even though he should have!

I hope u understand me this time? :scratch:lol

OMG LOL I get you! I thought you were having a go at me and agreeing with those people. Like to say Randy didn't do anything wrong and MJ did thank him (ignoring the mismanagement bit). Yes to the bold. No offense meant. I read your comment the wrong way. Sorry about that.

 

[twinklEE]

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first of all how are we gonna know that they want to defend their daddy and not someone in the family said that they should participate in such an interview? How are we going to know that whether they were being influenced or not?

secondly are they ready for such things?. I'll be honest, forget all "they are mature kids" talk, 13 and 12 years old doesn't equal to being an adult and knowing what they want to do for sure. Didn't you watch the Grammy's : Blanket being afraid to go on stage, Prince and Paris having hard time giving their speeches. That was just reading a memorized speech, no one was asking them questions. I don't know about anyone else but to me they don't look ready to be interviewed on National TV.

and finally what about Michael? If he wanted or needed his kids to defend him , he could have done it for years. they could have put on the witness stand in the 2005 trial (they were on the defense witness list) or he could have paraded his "normal" children around to show that he's "normal" or they could have given interviews saying how much they loved their daddy. On the contrary they were kept away and secure. So the question will be would Michael wanted his kids to be used to defend him?

so therefore for me it's not that easy.

I'm still keeping the hope that the news about the kids participating isn't the truth.

exactly

 

[Asedora]

Goona answer to everybody in one post.

1. First of all ppl who are afraid about questions Oprah may ask have to understand that it is not how it is being done. I am sure Katherine and Oprah signed an agreement and Oprah is not going to ask anything Katherine does not want especially when it comes to MJ children. This is Katherine's the biggest concern and I am sure she would do her best.


2. Secondary. Those children cannot wear masks till the rest of their lives! Get real here. Michael did it when they were small in order to give them a free childhood like going to places without the media chasing them. I am sure these kids went to McDonalds, Disneyland and everywhere else without paparazzi following them because he protected their identity. I heard that Michael wanted his kids to be on stage with him (at least Prince and Paris) in TII. He wanted to introduce his kids to this world. So…


3. Now the situation has changed. Their daddy is not longer here. The meaning of defending daddy has changed as well (this is to some who asked why Michael did not use his kids to defend himsef). Katherine is a guardian and her name was in MJ Will which means that Michael trusted her. Fans have to remember that before they post their “concerns” about what Katherine is doing. I am sure she is doing her BEST for these kids and we as fans have to trust her just like Michael did.

 

[Shanna]

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I haven't even seen the interview, so how can I say it's a good idea or not.

I hope Oprah has enough sense to know that some questions are off limit to Michael's children. It doesn't matter how she, or her target audience, thinks of Michael. The children are innocent. It's not right to cause sufferings and humiliations to children, any children, not just Michael's children.

I agree.

 

[bluetopez]

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OMG LOL I get you! I thought you were having a go at me and agreeing with those people. Like to say Randy didn't do anything wrong and MJ did thank him (ignoring the mismanagement bit). Yes to the bold. No offense meant. I read your comment the wrong way. Sorry about that.

No problem :flowers::better:

Sometimes reading something online vs. actually hearing someone say it can get confusing! It happened to me on another thread here the other day! :blush: lol :cheeky:

 

[Asedora]

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and finally what about Michael? If he wanted or needed his kids to defend him , he could have done it for years. they could have put on the witness stand in the 2005 trial (they were on the defense witness list) or he could have paraded his "normal" children around to show that he's "normal" or they could have given interviews saying how much they loved their daddy. On the contrary they were kept away and secure. So the question will be would Michael wanted his kids to be used to defend him?

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Do you mean that MJ did not use his kids to defend himsef during child molestation trial? I think do not see a difference between two cases. Do you?
This time his daddy is not longer here and the investigation process is slow and more likely that kids know some truth what was going on around their daddy. And I want them to speak! We had enough lies around this case. Nothing was done since he passed. Nobody in jail yet! So sorry, I do not agree with you.

 

[PrincessMichaela]

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Of course Oprah would not end her show without scoring an interview with the children of Michael Jackson. Vile, using them like that.
However, whatever decision they make, I will respect them.
'Cause like the Grammys - At first I was all against it, but after seeing them, I totally believed it was the right thing at the right time, done the right way. So - we'll see. As long as it's their decision - I'm behind them 100%. They're young, but their wise. They were raised by and around Michael - they understand how the world works and how they fit into it and he, no doubt, taught them good judgment.

 

[144000]

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Do you mean that MJ did not use his kids to defend himsef during child molestation trial? I think do not see a difference between two cases. Do you?
This time his daddy is not longer here and the investigation process is slow and more likely that kids know some truth what was going on around their daddy. And I want them to speak! We had enough lies around this case. Nothing was done since he passed. Nobody in jail yet! So sorry, I do not agree with you.

no matter what goes on, we can't put on the kids, the assanine ways of adults. if naysayers don't want to change their minds, there's nothing that can be done about that. MJ's kids should not be forced to pay for the astray ways of naysayer adults. it's not the kids' fault. people are going to think what they want to think, no matter what. they already spoke at the grammys, they already spoke at the memorial, and wayward adults remain wayward. the kids are not responsible for the juvenile ways of the wayward adults. we cannot be going against Michael's wishes for his kids. he protected them. we can't go against that, for the sake of lost adults. or anything else.

 

[ivy]

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Do you mean that MJ did not use his kids to defend himsef during child molestation trial? I think do not see a difference between two cases. Do you?
This time his daddy is not longer here and the investigation process is slow and more likely that kids know some truth what was going on around their daddy. And I want them to speak! We had enough lies around this case. Nothing was done since he passed. Nobody in jail yet! So sorry, I do not agree with you.

To be clear: I did not say "don't make them testify against Murray (or anybody that might contributed to Michael's death) in a court of law ". If needed to convict people that are guilty of such a heinous crime , I have no problem with them testifying. That will be an action necessary for justice.

However this thread is about a TV Show and my point was that Michael never used his children to defend or portray an image about himself for public. I do not think that the kids should be doing that now on a TV show for general public. I personally do not believe that Michael would wanted such thing.

 

[Asedora]

However this thread is about a TV Show and my point was that Michael never used his children to defend or portray an image about himself for public. I do not think that the kids should be doing that now on a TV show for general public. I personally do not believe that Michael would wanted such thing.

Do you think that Kathirine gonna talk how she cleans the house during this show? I do believe that PUBLICITY is a key that justice will prevail. It works like democracy in this case because Michael was a high profile figure for America and for the world. He would want this justice to be served and as more public attention it gets as better for his name and legacy and for the future trial resulst. Simple as that! This world should remember him as a great daddy, humanitarian and the greatest person ever walked on this planet not a drug addict who "killed" himself like Murray’s defense are trying to convince Americans and the world.. Jacksons are doing a RIGHT thing. If somebody still does not get it, I am sorry for them.

 

[ivy]

I do believe that PUBLICITY is a key that justice will prevail. It works like democracy in this case because Michael was a high profile figure for America and for the world. He would want this justice to be served and as more public attention it gets as better for his name and legacy and for the future trial resulst. Simple as that! This world should remember him as a great daddy, humanitarian and the greatest person ever walked on this planet not a drug addict who "killed" himself like Murray’s defense are trying to convince Americans and the world.. Jacksons are doing a RIGHT thing. If somebody still does not get it, I am sorry for them.

Well I disagree.

OJ Simpson trial is the best example of high public attention and public opinion as far as the trials go. When OJ Simpson was on trial for the murder, every single poll showed that 60 to 75% percent of the public thought that he was guilty, yet he was found innocent. (90% of the all TV audience watched the verdict).

Let's not kid ourselves. Outcome of the trials are determined by 12 jurors based on the evidence, not based on public opinion and public attention.

And of course I'll agree that we all want the world remember Michael in a way that he deserves "humanitarian and the greatest person ever walked on this planet" but still that shouldn't equal to putting his grieving kids to the hot spot on national TV especially when we know that Oprah is only doing this for ratings and not because that she cares about Michael.

edit: here's the source for the public opinion polls. you can easily say that public opinion doesn't equal to the trial outcome.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15115/majority-americans-say-charges-against-michael-jackson-true.aspx

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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Alledgedly the kids were interviewed by Oprah?

The plot thickens.......

I'm just gonna hold back on making any further comments on this until I actually see this interview, then I'll be able to judge fairly.

 

[Asedora]

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Well I disagree.

OJ Simpson trial is the best example of high public attention and public opinion as far as the trials go. When OJ Simpson was on trial for the murder, every single poll showed that 60 to 75% percent of the public thought that he was guilty, yet he was found innocent. (90% of the all TV audience watched the verdict).

Let's not kid ourselves. Outcome of the trials are determined by 12 jurors based on the evidence, not based on public opinion and public attention.

And of course I'll agree that we all want the world remember Michael in a way that he deserves "humanitarian and the greatest person ever walked on this planet" but still that shouldn't equal to putting his grieving kids to the hot spot on national TV especially when we know that Oprah is only doing this for ratings and not because that she cares about Michael.

edit: here's the source for the public opinion polls.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15115/majority-americans-say-charges-against-michael-jackson-true.aspx

Well, I have to disagree. When fans were supporting Michael during 2005 the trial it had some positive impact in general. The same here. And... if nobody will do anything, nobody will say anything publically on TV how good it is for Michael's legacy? His kids will continue his legacy and by birth THEY ARE A PART of his legacy I see nothing wrong if they will speak up now when their daddy needs it the most.