IMWhizzle
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I'm keen for the next posthumous album to be done just like XSCAPE was. Everyone won with that one.
But this time with Daft Punk and Pharrell Williams productions! ?
I'm keen for the next posthumous album to be done just like XSCAPE was. Everyone won with that one.
lougrizli;4161169 said:Did I said it was revolutionary in term of shooting videos ? I'm talking about the video itself. I've never seen someone used this concept, especially with a dead artist. Hotchpotch ? No. The point is to make a skit about it, not to put footages everywhere with no sense. At least it would still be better than LNFSG, that didn't have the original concept that you're talking about.
lougrizli;4161169 said:Anyway. I don't think these threads are gonna change something! If the Estate want to release a duets album, they will do it because there will always be people to buy it.
I might be dreaming too much but the estate should set up a team of 10 "hard-core fans" who would be able to control the releases.
I mean it's pretty obvious that we can do everything by ourselves. The montages, the audio mixing, etc. That is not a problem for us to watch 72 hours of footages without sleeping.
And I think we are the only ones who can bring that new touch to his stuffs. We are those who noticed what's wrong everytime there's something new who's coming out. There is no communication between them and us and that's the main problem.
But this time with Daft Punk and Pharrell Williams productions! í ½í¸
I have always felt this was the way to go. Just pull 5 long-time fans that really know the MJ catalogue and help narrow down a list of 20 songs down to about 10.
But this time with Daft Punk and Pharrell Williams productions! í ½í¸
Well, they do need to stop sitting on all that THIS IS IT footage... maybe 2019 10 year anniversary addition? They could make another documentary easily prior to that.. 'This Is It: The Creative Process' and that alone talk about the making process of the concert, show longer behind the scene footage etc..
Haha. Guess you could see my skeptical eyebrow going up thru internet space.When I mentioned fans in decision making on the album.. I meant more so... ME!! lol.. well you can come too barbee I trust your opinion on this!! I feel like we could come up with a good group of fans
Galactus123;4161067 said:I'm sure a new album will come at some point. I hope it's not a duet album because I want to hear the original songs.
Wish I could say the same, but since I've heard Timbaland's version of "Slave to the Rhythm" I can't get that bassline out of my head. Everything about it is just great. Tricky Stewart's mix of STTR.. I can't listen to it at all, sounds too "techno-ish" now. Max Methods mix would've been great as a solo mix, can't get with a "teen pop sensation" taking over an MJ track that hot!.. Just can't!+1
I liked it better than any of the Xscape mixes
Korlay;4161371 said:I wouldn't mind it if the duets were with good artists such as: JT, Bruno Mars, Beyoncé & Usher.. Just keep Justin Bieber & Lady Gaga far away from any MJ material!
HIStoric;4161144 said:Sometimes I do worry about just how many more "good songs" are left in the vault. I've heard varying numbers over the years about how Michael had many unreleased songs, but how many are actual, fully-written songs that were also fully recorded? Let alone good?
Sometimes I do worry about the quality of the songs left unreleased and I'm not doubting Michael's abilities, I love a great number of the songs he never released. I just hope the Estate don't scrap the barrel and are aware and respectful of what should and shouldn't be released.
I read somewhere that YRMW, YANA, Dangerous were rehearsed for This Is It. I really hope to see the rehearsal footage of these songs someday.
HIStoric;4161411 said:A very good number of his unreleased songs/demos featured unrecorded vocals (Hollywood Tonight), random lyrics ("Love is a doughnut" Give Into Me demo), discernible lyrics (Al Capone, Days in Gloucestershire), humming (People of the World/In The Back), or a various mix of the above. Some even have no vocals whatsoever (Shut Up and Dance). Minus GITM for obvious reasons, I wouldn't classify most of these songs as in the "very advanced stage" and it's likely many of his other unreleased songs are in similar states.
HIStoric;4161411 said:^^I find it hard to believe that Michael Jackson has 1,000 unreleased tracks, let alone anywhere near that (and I'm thinking in any recorded stage, not advanced). Just because he said he wrote over 100 songs for every album does not mean he recorded anywhere near that number. Hell, many of those 100 songs probably weren't even finished being written or "finalised".
He might have a decent amount of reasonably complete, unreleased songs to go... but he wasn't Prince.
mj_frenzy;4161416 said:Still, this does not prove that there are not many other unreleased songs in a far more advanced stage (in terms of production).
mj_frenzy;4161416 said:MJ used to have a wide variety even of finalized songs before the selection of his official tracklists. Take for example his ‘Dangerous’ album. There were over 70 finalized tracks in contention of that final tracklist. So, it makes sense to believe that there were many other songs (not in that finalized stage) that were recorded during those sessions.
mj_frenzy;4161416 said:Far less known/successful singers (than MJ) record thousands of songs during their recording sessions only to leave those songs out of their albums. So, I do not think that the number of MJ’s 1.000 unreleased songs (in an advanced production stage) can be perceived as an unrealistic/overblown one.
HIStoric;4161418 said:Yeah sure, I imagine there are still a good number in more advanced stages of production, but I'm also sure theres a great number of songs that aren't near these stages at all.
Can I see the specific quote? Not doubting you necessarily, but it sounds like they had 70 songs written in contention of the tracklist which definitely sounds about right. 54 extra songs that were finalised in essentially every aspect is astronomically high for a single-disc album...
I believe that a great portion of those were recorded in one way or another, but I imagine the songs are varying states of competition.
HIStoric;4161418 said:Are you saying "thousands of songs" literally or hyperbolically? Like TBH that's just my main point of contention (and funnily enough, neither of us exactly know either HAHA) but if you mean it literally for other artists, I'm not entirely sure that's true, mainly because studio time can be so expensive.
I dunno, the idea of thousands of brand new, unreleased, recorded songs seems very unrealistic to me? ...unless you're like... Frank Zappa, Bob Dylan or Prince or whoever. Like I think of other prolific artists who died a while ago (such as Elvis, Sinatra, Mercury) and none of them had thousands of unreleased songs, let alone a hundred. Unless you mean 1000+ unreleased takes of various songs, including those already released, as well as covers/live versions then oh yeah absolutely.
mj_frenzy;4161425 said:The number of 70 finalized songs (for the ‘Dangerous’ album) was reported extensively during the summer of 1991. Also, as far as I am aware, those reports were never refuted by MJ or by his camp (record company, collaborators, etc.). On the contrary, his collaborators at that time (like Teddy Riley) back up those pretty long lists (when they are asked about it).
mj_frenzy;4161425 said:Unreleased songs (not unreleased takes of various songs) can reach in some cases, the number of one thousand songs… literally.
Finally, there are many other examples as well, such as Paul McCartney, an artist who can write/record his songs in his sleep. I am pretty sure even Paul McCartney himself must have lost the account of the all songs he has written/recorded in the post-Beatles era but he never released (solo, The Wings, etc).
Remember when they tried to make a Justin Bieber duet for Slave To The Rhythm? I still shudder that they even attepted it, but thanks to huge fan backlash that duet was never officially released.
The songs Michael rehearsed that we have not seen..
Don't Stop Til You get enough (Added to the end of Motown Medly, could have been after MJ left stage)
Rock With You
Dirty Diana (without prop sets)
Dangerous
Will You Be There
You Are Not Alone
Stranger In Moscow
We Are The World (I believe just as interlude for 'Heal The World' without MJ) Pretty much how we saw it at the memorial!