IQ of Michael?

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To me, Michael seemed like a very very intelligent person. I think it's obvious when you look at various things he did and achieved. Like Michael said in London 2002: They (Sony) never thought that the artist myself would out...think them :D.

Did he ever do a IQ test? I think it's kind of silly that the press always talks of Sharon Stone having such a high IQ... still I'm wondering if ever anything about this was said regarding Michael.
 
hmm I would like to know too. It did seem VERY smart. =)
 
high enough to threaten people who claimed he didn't know about financial affairs. they're the ones who don't know about financial affairs.
 
His intelligence is one of the sexiest things about him :3

Very very articulate and well spoken, he has a very outstanding vocabulary. I smile everytime I think about how he speaks:wub:
 
His intelligence is one of the sexiest things about him :3

Very very articulate and well spoken, he has a very outstanding vocabulary. I smile everytime I think about how he speaks:wub:

I agree :) I love the way he pronounces words so perfectly :)

And I love how he always refered to people by their full name, Katherine, Joseph, Elizabeth, etc etc. Never shortened them. So cute :p
 
I don't know, that has never been seen and we don't know if he took one. But He had a load of street smarts. :D

If he had a 'load of street smarts' I highly doubt he would have gotten into that mess with that family who made the allegations in 2005. He seemed like he had business/book smarts, but severely lacked street smarts, especially considering if he grew up living a somewhat sheltered life.
 
In article I read of a strange subject matter (though not a negative one), stated that Michael's IQ was 160. Isn't an IQ above 140 considered genius?
 
If he had a 'load of street smarts' I highly doubt he would have gotten into that mess with that family who made the allegations in 2005. He seemed like he had business/book smarts, but severely lacked street smarts, especially considering if he grew up living a somewhat sheltered life.

street smarts have nothing to do with avoiding that family. they went for him because he was charitable.
if u r street smart and charitable, people will still take advantage of you. only way someone wouldn't take advantage of you is if you never give to anyone. being charitable is always risky, whether or not you are street smart. but being charitable is still a great thing. we're just living in a fucked up world, that's all, so people take advantage, no matter what.
 
I can listen to him speaking for hours and hours, i just love the way he speaks, he just take you the place he wants you to be!, and how he is so respectful and kind when he speaks, even with kids!
 
I would have loved to have had a conversation with him about the world, arts, film, literature, religion, or just about anything. I could listen to Mike for hours!
 
I would have loved to have had a conversation with him about the world, arts, film, literature, religion, or just about anything. I could listen to Mike for hours!

Me too. It would've been amazing!!
 
In article I read of a strange subject matter (though not a negative one), stated that Michael's IQ was 160. Isn't an IQ above 140 considered genius?

He is a genius then because that would mean he is gifted as heck.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_reference_chart

25 - 40 Severe mental disability
40 - 55 Moderate mental disability
55 - 70 Mild mental disability
70 - 85 Borderline mental disability
85 - 115 Average
115 - 130 Above average
130 - 145 Moderately gifted
145 - 160 Highly gifted
160 - 175 Exceptionally gifted Over
175 Profoundly gifted
IQ tests are bias as heck anyway, because I took one at 16 and I scored really low. :(

If he had a 'load of street smarts' I highly doubt he would have gotten into that mess with that family who made the allegations in 2005. He seemed like he had business/book smarts, but severely lacked street smarts, especially considering if he grew up living a somewhat sheltered life.

I meant business street smarts.
 
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I looked it up in Google. His IQ is 164, 4 points higher than that of Albert Einstein and Bill Gates.
 
IQ tests are fairly biased, and the controversy is that they measure mostly left-brained intelligence. In other words, they are more mathematical/abstract in nature, and surely proficiency at something like that cannot be the sole means by which intelligence is measured. Would someone who is incredibly talented in one area, for example, painting or music...but who scores fairly averagely, or even slightly below the norm, in an I.Q. test be considered unintelligent? Would they not count as intelligent because of their talent, due to the fact that artistic expression is one of the main indicators of a sophisticated civilization? A friend of mine fits that description--she scored fairly averagely on her IQ test, however, her artistic talent is extremely impressive--how could she not be considered an intelligent creature? Just because her brain doesn't think mathematically? That seems unfair. Moreover, certain people cannot properly take tests, so their scores wouldn't be reflective of their potential per se, and some mentally handicapped people may score poorly on IQ tests (autistic people, for example) and possess extremely impressive musical/other abilities--would those not count as a measure of their intelligence? Depression has also been shown to affect one's IQ score.

That's always been my issue with the I.Q. test--it certainly measures intelligence, but it is not all-inclusive, either. I believe there are multiple intelligences, and the standardly accepted IQ test simply doesn't cut the bill in measuring them.

As for Michael--it is obvious he was a genius, regardless of what his IQ score was.
 
How do those articles you guys refer to know how high was his IQ? Did he ever do an IQ test at all?

I think he was intelligent. Artistically a genius, no doubt, but I don't buy his IQ was higher than that of Einstein, sorry.

I remember though an article in which this British brain specialist visited him and his kids to teach them about the human brain or something, and he said he never had a student so quick on the uptake as Michael. Does anybody remember this article?
 
How do those articles you guys refer to know how high was his IQ? Did he ever do an IQ test at all?

I don't think I read something official about MJ's IQ.

I remember though an article in which this British brain specialist visited him and his kids to teach them about the human brain or something, and he said he never had a student so quick on the uptake as Michael. Does anybody remember this article?

wow! I would loove to have that article.
 
wow! I would loove to have that article.

So would I.


I have always wondered what Michael's IQ is. Especially since I have an above average IQ. Mine is 120 and this is coming from someone who has learning disabilities. I so wish I had Michael's intelligence especially when it comes to writing poetry. Something I always had the worst of time doing. At least with my intelligence lies more in the science fields especially astronomy. Where I like to consider myself an expert astronomer.
 
I bet it's very high. I wouldve loved to have MJ as a teacher! Just imagine, listening to him for hours... and never get bored at all!
 
I bet his IQ was around 130-150. I don't think his IQ is over Einstein's IQ.
I mean... Is Michael better to math than Einstein? xD. I don't think so.
I bet it's very high. I wouldve loved to have MJ as a teacher! Just imagine, listening to him for hours... and never get bored at all!

Aww yes!!! :heart:
I would love to have him as teacher if there was a subject in school called. "First rule on this world (example: Knowing yourself. Loving Yourself. Be spiritual. Make it a better place. Love and respect everybody.)

We don't have a subject like that. that's why SOME student don't have self-esteem, hates and respect each other, an nd try their best to be popular in school in bad way. (my experience.)
I think it would be a great subject for us in school.. Don't understand why we don't have a subject like that. I mean, it will destroy all the hates and buillying.
 
^No it won't. Aggressiveness is biologically ingrained in the human psyche. A class against bullying and for self-esteem won't destroy the bullying. It's a biologically functional trait in theory. When we were cavemen, it was necessary to establish who the alpha male was, etc. so the males would compete against each other, in an effort to be crowned as the alpha male to whom the females flocked for reproductive purposes. This behaviour can still be observed in the animal kingdom, where members of a species which are regarded to be deviations from the norm or physically inferior are ostracized from the rest, sometimes banished and left to die on their own.

Of course, these biological impulses can be controlled, but that requires intelligence, which is why the majority of people who are overly aggressive and ruled by impulses tend to exhibit low levels of intelligence. The ones who are of average (or even rarer) or above average intelligence usually tend to have some sort of mental illness which causes the behaviour to manifest.

There is also an argument to be made for those who grow up witnessing domestic abuse, and their tendency to reenact the abuse they live at home in the classroom, with others instead of themselves serving as the victims. I grew up in an environment of domestic abuse, however, and I have never been a bully, so I don't really buy too much into that stance. There are others who have never had a history of domestic or any other form of abuse, who are bullies--and I think this stems more out of their own insecurities and the bullying exhibits itself as an effort to compensate for their perceived shortcomings by proving to themselves that their victims, and not them, are the weak, unworthy ones. Human psychology is a very interesting mess.

Back to the I.Q. topic, however, yes...my I.Q. is indeed 5, Remington Steele.

I suspect Michael's I.Q. would be somewhere between 120-150. I know that's a wide range, but since the I.Q. is not really indicative of actual intelligence but rather a man-made measure of more mathematically-based intelligence, it would depend on how left-brained he was, and from my observations, he seemed to be pretty right-brained (artistic rather than logical.) Thus, he would probably be at a disadvantage.

P.S. We don't have a subject like that because the entire purpose of school is to put you in a little box and ship you so that you will function in the working world and be a 'productive' member of society. Anyone who thinks they're getting an education at school is sadly mistaken.
 
betseyby67;3283096 said:
I looked it up in Google. His IQ is 164, 4 points higher than that of Albert Einstein and Bill Gates.
Really? That easy? is it a reliable source? :scratch:

respect77;3286245 said:
How do those articles you guys refer to know how high was his IQ? Did he ever do an IQ test at all? I think he was intelligent. Artistically a genius, no doubt, but I don't buy his IQ was higher than that of Einstein, sorry.

I remember though an article in which this British brain specialist visited him and his kids to teach them about the human brain or something, and he said he never had a student so quick on the uptake as Michael. Does anybody remember this article?

I do, here it is: http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/39130188.html (one of the many sources)
Be careful, however, for it contains some crap about MJ, his kids being his kids or not his kids, Michael not talking to his kids about Jesus and other stuff.

The focus of our thread:

Buzan’s writings on brain development via a technique he calls mind-mapping have earned him an international following and the post of “thinker in residence” at Wellington College, an independent school in Berkshire. He was teaching in Singapore in 2006 when he received a call from his friend, Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad al-Khalifa, of the Bahraini royal family.

[...] Jackson raved to Buzan about one of his books. He wanted Buzan, he said, to explain his ideas to his children and to “teach them how to think”.

[...] Buzan was immediately struck by how attached the children were to their father.

“I would watch them coming and going from the international school every day. They left happy, and came back happy. On their return those three kids could not run any faster from the car to get to hug their daddy.”

The house itself had been converted into a shrine to Jackson’s cultural enthusiasms. “It felt like the Sistine Chapel, filled with renaissance art. There were giant prints of paintings by the likes of Raphael on every wall.” Bizarrely, the first thing Jackson did on Buzan’s arrival was to quiz him about Leonardo da Vinci. “He was fascinated by the idea of geniuses, from Alexander the Great to Charlie Chaplin and Muhammad Ali, but he didn’t consider himself as one of them. He was very humble. He saw himself as a student.”

Buzan was surprised to discover that Jackson was an indulgent father, “not one of those hot-housing parents, forever forcing the children to play chess, take dance classes or learn instruments”. In the evenings they cuddled up together on the sofa to watch DVDs. Alongside the old masters, Jackson had hung larger-than-life-sized photographs of his children, which greatly amused them. “Michael had a massive printing machine.”

The elder children are remarkably focused, according to Buzan. “They are fast learners like their father, who was probably the best pupil I’ve had.” Buzan witnessed no tantrums or raised voices. “The kids seemed to enjoy each other’s company. It’s unusual in groups of three, where tensions can often arise.”

They are very different personalities. Buzan describes Prince as “a very bright, witty but serious little boy. In a class he would be the child the teachers noticed. He was confident and very quick on repartee”. Paris, by contrast, “was a sedate princess. Very independent, contemplative and self-contained. She was quiet but kind, always offering things. She had great poise and presence and she was very good with the boys”.

Four-year-old Blanket was “just wild, a little dynamo, always on the move, tumbling, hanging off the furniture. He was like a mini-Michael. I saw Blanket do lots of dance routines”.
 
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