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Do you get 'offended' by the name Jacko?

Yes. I find it extremely offensive. They have to try and make the shrewdest most ingenius man in the world look like he's wacky just because he insists on expressing his individuality (isn't that what the arts is for??)

I have three wishes (fantasies) for Michael regarding this..

1. He (and his fans) get to a point where it is no longer hurtful to us thereby relinquishing it of its power to offend, that way they may knock it off.

2. Some really pursuasive person (say Stevie Wonder for instance) holds a press conference about something entirely unrelated to the "name" issue (but related to Michael) and says to the world that each time they call him out of his name they are attempting to belittle the contribution of three generations of an African American entertainment dynasty, tantamount to calling the entire Jackson family "boy" and it is perceived as a last ditch, covert racist ploy (dramatic but it may get them to stop since its politically incorrect to be openly perceived as racist)

3. Michael secures intellectual copyrights on the use of that name in connection with his person so that anytime it is ever used, he getz paid. I would think that'd dam sho make em stop.

i can dream..
 
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First of all....L.J...I was just yanking your chain..all in fun..yes...and second of all....I take the word "Jacko" offensively. I can't help it. It's like if MY last name were Jackson, I wouldn't want ANYONE calling me "Jacko"....too close to the other word if you add two "ff"'s at the end...wouldn't like that one bit...
 
Also keep in mind that term JACKO came from 'WACKO JACKO'... It was made to rhyme, be katchy etc.. If "wacko Jacko' would not have been said, 'Jacko' would not have either.. Even if Jacko on it's own is not a big deal.. WE ALL KNOW where it came from.


It's like X on X-mas.. Ya people use it short now for Christmas.. But it was MADE to CROSS OUT Christ in CHRISTMAS.. X-mas. When you know where it comes from it is more offensive.
 
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Yes, I do get offended by people naming Michael Jackson "Jacko" because although it is a shortening of a name like "Steve" instead of "Steven" it is in my mind too closely linked with the phrase "Wacko Jacko" which is disrespectful. Everytime I hear "Jacko" i'm thinking "Wacko" and I don't like that. Also seeing a video clip of Michael Jackson saying he doesn't like the term makes me not want to use the name as he views it as derogatory himself. I would not be offended if they called him "Jackson" as he is a "Jackson" and that isn't closely linked with anything but "Michael". I just think that the "Jacko" is used on purpose because they know that people immediatly think "wacko"
 
KOPV said:
Also keep in mind that term JACKO came from 'WACKO JACKO'... It was made to rhyme, be katchy etc.. If "wacko Jacko' would not have been said, 'Jacko' would not have either.. Even if Jacko on it's own is not a big deal.. WE ALL KNOW where it came from.


It's like X on X-mas.. Ya people use it short now for Christmas.. But it was MADE to CROSS OUT Christ in CHRISTMAS.. X-mas. When you know where it comes from it is more offensive.
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OMG REALLY?????????

Dannnnggg lol
 
'Xmas' is all a part of the attempt to secularizing christmas..

It goes VERY deep, and is a complete different topic than JACKO. lol! but lets just say MANY things have been covered, not just with 'religion' but EVERYTHING..

We are all pawns to these lies and conspiracies. I'm not the type that is all paranoide etc. about what goes on behind the scene. I have just learned a lot from others that have SEEN too much. And my natural desire to learn about the TRUTH.

I think it all started with me, trying to find ways to PROVE the truth about Michael.. From that, I noticed I was doing it with other things.. American History that has been covered up. etc.. It's fun learning, and passing it on.
 
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There are ppl who'd make or say whatever negative or positive just to get a response from Michael Jackson... either because they are obsessed with him (obsessive ppl do so) or because it will give them their minute of fame, in this case they are more obsessed with themselves somehow!

I personally don't like anyone offending anyone while I do like ppl who are respectfull towards others.
As Michael said he feels offense by that term I want ppl to pay him respect and not use it.
It's not I feel offended myself but it gives me a clear impression of the person using that term and probably they'd not get any role further in my life.
 
mello1 said:
Well, it is a serious discussion for some folk....;)
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LindaC781 said:
Oh but I am light...I am just discussing the possibility of someone whose last name is Jackson possibly being offended by being called "Jacko"...even though I was using this NON-offensively, and quite nicely as a nickname! :lol Don't worry - this is still a light-hearted conversation..;)
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let's bring it on!!!:p seriously, this discussion is really interesting. see how many impassioned arguments the simple question posed?
 
I always remember that Barbara's "mysterious behaviour" from Barbara Walters interview.. :) Michael should write a song called Mysterious Behaviour and it could be about the tabloids.. :) Tabloids have made Michael's behaviour "mysterious" in the first place. Just look at the latest where post it were put on his face.. Come on.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
When Michael said, "Im not Jacko, Im Jackson", he was clearly talking about the media calling him Wacko Jacko which is offensive and if I were Mike Id be mad too.

I say Jacko because its the nickname for Jackson which isnt offensive. Funny I have a friend called Jacko and my dog is Jacko too! And I like all 3 Jacko's!
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It's not that clear to me. In my mind, the name 'Jacko' as used when referring to MJ brings with it the connotations of being crazy and I don't think that point is wasted on MJ. I don't think he cares for it either. Even if he didn't mind, I personally still find it as highly offensive and would never refer to anyone in that way.

But that's me.
 
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Yes I am offended... But if the article is let's say 80-90% positive, I've learned to ignore it. It's about survival in this world full of stupidity and hate, we cannot be too delicate and get away with a healthy mind... Maybe some of them just act stupid by just copying others.. and mentioning it... I dunno...

Over all, I thing it's a very mean and ugly saying, hurtful and I really want it to dissapear for good, and never ever read it again.
 
OMG......Xmas has nothing to do with trying to take Christ out of it. I am postin some wikipedia on ya'lls ass.

The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as 1021 AD. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of the Greek letters χ and ρ), used in ancient abbreviations for Χριστος (Greek for "Christ"), and are still widely seen in many Eastern Orthodox icons depicting Jesus Christ. The labarum, an amalgamation of the two Greek letters rendered as ☧, is a symbol often used to represent Christ in Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christian Churches.[2]
Nevertheless, some believe that the term is part of an effort to "take Christ out of Christmas" or to literally "cross out Christ";[3] it is seen as evidence of the secularization of Christmas, as a symptom of the commercialization of the holiday (as the abbreviation has long been used by retailers). It may also be seen as a vehicle to be more inclusive. (See political correctness.)

The labarum, often called the Chi-Rho, is a Christian symbol representing Christ.


The occasionally held belief that the "X" represents the cross on which Christ was crucified also has no basis in fact. St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was probably shaped like a T or a †. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be, since the cross as a Christian symbol developed later. (The Greek letter Chi Χ stood for "Christ" in the ancient Greek acrostic ΙΧΘΥΣ ichthys.) While some see the spelling of Christmas as Xmas a threat, others see it as a way to honor the martyrs. The use of X as an abbreviation for "cross" in modern abbreviated writing (e.g. "Kings X" for "Kings Cross") may have reinforced this assumption.
In ancient Christian art, χ and χρ are abbreviations for Christ's name.[4] In many manuscripts of the New Testament and icons, X is an abbreviation for Christos, as is XC (the first and last letters in Greek, using the lunate sigma); compare IC for Jesus in Greek. The Oxford English Dictionary documents the use of this abbreviation back to 1551, 50 years before the first English colonists arrived in North America and 60 years before the King James Version of the Bible was completed. At the same time, Xian and Xianity were in frequent use as abbreviations of "Christian" and "Christianity"; and nowadays still are sometimes so used, but much less than "Xmas". The proper names containing the name "Christ" other than aforementioned are rarely abbreviated in this way (e.g. Hayden Xensen for the actor name "Hayden Christensen"). This apparent usage of "X" to spell the syllable "kris" (rather than the sounds "ks") has extended to "xtal" for "crystal", and on florists' signs "xant" for "chrysanthemum"[5] (though these words are not etymologically related to "Christ"; "crystal" comes from a Greek word meaning "ice"; "chrysanthemum" comes from Greek words meaning "golden flower"; "Christ" comes from a Greek word meaning "anointed").
In the 17th and 18th Centuries, "Xene" and "Exene" were common spellings of the given name Christene.



ANYWAY, now to the main point at hand. Jacko is a very sick and demeaning word. It should NOT be used at all in reference to Michael JACKSON. Point closed and I think this thread should be as well.



-D
 
Forever_Mike said:
I have noticed that some fans get upset when MJ is referred to as Jacko. The thing is that Jacko is a short for Jackson. Its used by the media/non-media to address people with the last name Jackson. Admittedly the media use it a lot for MJ. What I find offensive is when the term Jacko is used to rhyme with an offensive word in describing MJ e.g W**** Jacko and s*** like that.

I remember a very good British gymnast with last name Jackson who was called Jacko by the media. In fact he had fans/family with banner 'Go Jacko' etc.

Anyways what are your thoughts etc
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I don't get personally upset but since I know that Michael doesn't like being called Jacko I don't use it. I don't get the fans who use it when they talk about Michael.
L.J said:
whilst I agree that it is offensive when it rhymes with something like W***o etc

Here in Australia Jacko, is short for Jackson. It's used in two positive lights usually, one being "my mate Jacko said that.." ... or it's just used as a quicker shorter way of saying a name. (we naturally shorten words and names). It can actually be used as a term of respect or mateship. You know they've fully accepted you when they ad an o or an a to your name ;) "Johnno wants us around for drinks" or "Azza (aaron) has a new job"
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I'd be ok with it too if it had not been used with the word wacko jacko. I can understand that like in austalia it's used as a term of friendship when talking about someone whose name is Jackson.

Here in Finland there is a way of greeting a good old mate by saying a certain swear word and then the persons name usually with a very loud voice. One must say it just right to make it sound friendly instead of angry.

Tipareth said:
Yes I am offended... But if the article is let's say 80-90% positive, I've learned to ignore it.
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:yes: me too.
 
I honestly think that if we ignore the term in the media and separate it from W**** etc it will lose its power for the tabloid that use it to incite pain/anger to MJ fans. If we take the general attitude of 'whatever' and focus more on the content its written/presented in then it will be better.

By the way I would ask MJ this very question if/when i get a chance. I really don't think that he knew at the time of the interview that in some countries Jacko isn't used offensively nor is it automatically implies W****.
I reckon MJ is much more open minded and accommodating of others cultures/history. He may even be interested to know that other famous Jackson's are also referred to as Jacko.

Anyways that's just my opinion.
 
Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

i like the name j.acko because where im from everyone uses nicknames & people refer to mj as that,& not in an offensive way.if you have wacko before it or something like that its offensive of course.as for j.acko i actually think it sounds cool.if that offends anyone then i cant do much about it.
i really dont see the problem with a fan using the name.the way media use it is totally wrong though.thats not right.

also there is/was a race horse here called j.acko,so there is alot of love & affection for that name.its different in different parts of the world.i hope fans understand that as well.
 
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Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

Well MJ stated in his interview with Barbra Walters that he HATES that name. I couldn't care if other people don't mind being called it, the fact is MJ hates being called it himself and I think it's respectful not to refer to him as that name.
 
Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

i don't like either names, i always thought both were disrespectful....that's why i'm glad over here seems like both names are banned...@ mjno it wasn't...i really feel for mike, to be going in his 50's and to be still called names like that. even though, it's not always meant to be negative, my point is that's not his name and he's made it very clear in the past how much he detests being called by both...
 
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Yeah actually i do get offended by it pretty bad cause it was given to him along with 'wacko' so it wasnt given in good faith. Its a direct slam to him from the media and i cant feel too good about that.
 
Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

I do get offended. Media doesn't use it as a nice nickname or anything like that. And if Michael doesn't like to be called it we shouldn't.
 
Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

its just disrespectful to not call someone by there proper name, although i hate the 'daniel' i hate people calling me 'danny.' its ignorant.
 
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Honestly, I just ignore this name when I see it.

But I always felt tt it was rude, because not only it is insulting MJ himself but also the family because they are makin fun of the family name.

What the media is doing is just bullying, and no one is doing anything to stop them. They'll probably stop when every single celebs start sue-ing their butts off!
 
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DARKLIGHTDAN said:
its just disrespectful to not call someone by there proper name, although i hate the 'daniel' i hate people calling me 'danny.' its ignorant.
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really? you get insulted if somebody calls you danny instead of daniel? im the opposite to that.if somebody calls me azza instead of aaron i really like it.i find it really endearing lol.
when i was a kid people called me aaron/sharon or aaron/karen & it hurt my feelings because i was a kid,but if somebody said it to me now i find it funny.
i was dating a girl named sharon & it was aaron & sharon & it was soooooo funny.if michael don't like being called ***** then i will stop calling him that of course.but why have some of the people here who find the name insulting refer to michael as mj?
if he wants to be referred to by his birth name should we also drop the tag 'mj'?
 
Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

It doesn't bother me that much, I don't like wacko, but ***** don't bother me as i call my lil cousin it. Everyones diff though.
 
Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

I do not care to be honest. It's derogative, no doubt. However, if I worried about what the junk press write about Michael or any other celebrity I'm a fan of, I would go nuts, lol
 
Re: Do you get 'offended' by the name *****?

of course i'm offended. simply because MJ is offended. and i don't see why, based on the fact that everybody is offended by what they personally take offense to, that MJ fans wouldn't be offended by that five letter word, simply because MJ is offended by it. it's logical. simply a case of being in your own shoes. now, if you honestly don't take personal offense to anything, ever in your life, that is directed at you, then i'd understand you not taking offense to MJ being called that word, simply because he is offended by it. but i don't think that there is anyone in life that doesn't take personal offense to something.
 
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We have to try to keep these issues in perspective. The gutter press always write stuff about celebrites that is not flattering, so to speak. Also, most part of the articles published in the tabloids and such are meant only to make headlines, not actually to offend the artist and even when it is the case you cannot take it personally. It's par for the course in the entertainment business.
 
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