Jeffrey Daniel's says he Knows Michael is Innocent

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SOUL AND funk performer Jeffrey Daniel, of US group Shalamar,
says he knows that Michael Jackson did not molest any children.

Daniel, who is performing in London this week, told The Voice that
Jackson did not deserve the ‘wacko *****’ label, and should not
be portrayed as a child molester.


Jackson has, in the past, faced two sets of child molestation
allegations and a court trial. He was acquitted of all charges.

Daniel said he has watched Jackson do many kind things for
underprivileged children dying from multiple sclerosis, cancer
and other terminal illnesses.


“I stayed at Neverland [Jackson’s ranch]. I saw what is there.
I saw the kids who were staying there, it just doesn’t add up.
It doesn’t make sense. As far as I know, he’s not that type of
person,” said Daniel.

Daniel is said to have taught Jackson the infamous ‘moonwalk’.
He was a choreographer and dance brother on Jackson’s hits
such as Bad and Smooth Criminal.


He also served as dance consultant on Jackson’s Ghosts.

“Michael does not tell people, but I have seen what he does.
His greatest crime is his humanitarianism and his humility.
It backfires on him and these people have gone after him,”
Daniel said.

“I just feel sorry that he’s such an open hearted person -
that he didn’t grow a much harder shell earlier.”


Daniel added: “Isn’t it odd that the media can be so forgiving of
people who are in rehabilitation, people who have been convicted
and gone to jail? I just think it’s unfair that the media paint such
a negative picture of a person who was not found guilty.”


Daniel, who got his love of music and dancing from his mum Jeanne-Mae,
a classical pianist, and his sisters, while growing up in Los Angeles, is
performing the hit records and dances which made him famous at London’s
Bloomsbury Theatre on May 17.


Shalamar sold more than 25 million albums globally, including classic hits
such as A Night to Remember and I Can Make You Feel Good. Daniel also
revolutionised street dance, bringing the moonwalk and other funky moves
to millions around the world, first performing them on US TV show, Soul Train,
and later on Britain’s Top of the Pops.


Daniel said he does not feel slighted when people credit Michael Jackson
with creating the moonwalk. Commenting on an internet debate over the
issue, Daniel said:


“That is between the fans. Michael Jackson and I have nothing but love
and respect for each other. I never feel slighted by Michael’s achievement
with the dance because he’s one of my dance brothers.”

Daniel added he is touched that he is still so popular with fans.
“I’m surprised that people have affection for me from back in the day
and they still maintain that.

“I think the reason is that between Shalamar and what I have done
after that, I have done quality projects.”

http://www.voice-online.co.uk/content.php?show=13480Y
 
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They need to stop talking about the case now. The case has been tried in court and he was aqutted. They should move on to the music.
 
That was really cool of Jeffrey. He would know too, because he's known Michael for a long, long time. It's interesting how he talks about how sad it is that Michael is so open hearted and people are willing to take advantage of that. He's right when he says its sad because Michael just never developed that hard shell that most of us have, which deflects people away. Thanks for posting.
 
They need to stop talking about the case now. The case has been tried in court and he was aqutted. They should move on to the music.



true, Datsy.....

I hope one day this day finally will come..
 
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a come on, the case is almost 3 years in our memories. They shouldn't talk about the case, those days are over. It's good he believes michael, but I think almost every person in the world knew michael jackson was innocent.
They should focus their mind on the new album that will come.
 
SOUL AND funk performer Jeffrey Daniel, of US group Shalamar,
“Michael does not tell people, but I have seen what he does.
His greatest crime is his humanitarianism and his humility.
It backfires on him and these people have gone after him,”
Daniel said.

Indeed, indeed.

Daniel added: “Isn’t it odd that the media can be so forgiving of
people who are in rehabilitation, people who have been convicted
and gone to jail? I just think it’s unfair that the media paint such
a negative picture of a person who was not found guilty.”

Yeah, say it clear. The true reason is, they want no morally leaders. To do something for other people is inconvenient. It´s easier to hurt humans than heal them. And it´s even more attractive to be rude, to take drugs...Cruelty reigns. Look what happened to all the good people: Gandhi, L.M. King, Diane Fossy and...Jesus. Too sad.
 
Given the reports behind the so called allegations, any two year old could have figured out that Michael was innocent///
Unfortunately because of how this was played out in the media, there are some people who still want to believe the opposite and that is so unfair to MJ.

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I hate to break the news to you all, but this case will never be over. It's going to be part of/attached to Michael for the rest of his life and beyond.

That's why I think it's only good for someone like Jeffrey Daniel to speak out and tell people who Michael really is.

This case will never end in people's minds. The only thing we can change is the way they will perceive it. We can't make it go away, we can only work on telling the truth and so change people's opinion.
 
I hate to break the news to you all, but this case will never be over. It's going to be part of/attached to Michael for the rest of his life and beyond.

That's why I think it's only good for someone like Jeffrey Daniel to speak out and tell people who Michael really is.

This case will never end in people's minds. The only thing we can change is the way they will perceive it. We can't make it go away, we can only work on telling the truth and so change people's opinion.
I hjate to break it to you but Yes, it will go away, if people stop bringing it up and talk about the music. MJ is not the only one who has ever been tried for a crime. Time ios a greqt healer. MJ wioll be free and the media will have to lump it.
 
I my opinion the more people who speak out like Daniels did the better. There are a lot of people who only saw and heard the slanted reports in the media during the trial and still think Michael is guilty. Every time people like Daniels come out and firmly state the opposite it is one more reason for a few more people to consider his innocence. I don't just want him to succeed as a performer. I want his name cleared.
 
I hate to break the news to you all, but this case will never be over. It's going to be part of/attached to Michael for the rest of his life and beyond.

That's why I think it's only good for someone like Jeffrey Daniel to speak out and tell people who Michael really is.

This case will never end in people's minds. The only thing we can change is the way they will perceive it. We can't make it go away, we can only work on telling the truth and so change people's opinion.

Well said.
The media has put across such a consistently negative view against Mike that some people will always think Mike's guilty no matter what was proven in court and there will be people in the media and the general public that wil never let the accusations or court case disappear.

I hate it when the case is brought up in the media, but in instances like this, it is a good thing. It gets across the message that not only was Mike acquitted, but it was the right decision.
 
I my opinion the more people who speak out like Daniels did the better. There are a lot of people who only saw and heard the slanted reports in the media during the trial and still think Michael is guilty. Every time people like Daniels come out and firmly state the opposite it is one more reason for a few more people to consider his innocence. I don't just want him to succeed as a performer. I want his name cleared.

As usual I agree with you, wholeheartedly. Only yesterday I had a conversation with two of my best friends about Michael. I happened to mention that I had gotten back into MJ in a big way (the three of us were all huge fans as kids), upon which they both said "yeah, he's great, pity he's a pedo":(. Naturally I set them right, but that is what many people who didn't follow the trial closely think. There are so many misconseptions out there, believe me.
 
I hate to break the news to you all, but this case will never be over. It's going to be part of/attached to Michael for the rest of his life and beyond.

That's why I think it's only good for someone like Jeffrey Daniel to speak out and tell people who Michael really is.

This case will never end in people's minds. The only thing we can change is the way they will perceive it. We can't make it go away, we can only work on telling the truth and so change people's opinion.

Agree 100% with you Hoofmark. MJ's friends need to come out more and tell the truth about MJ instead of letting this "weird" image of MJ persist in the minds of many around the world. Anyone that doesn't think it exists are fooling themselves. There is still a long road ahead for MJ to fully get his freedom back from all that slander thrust onto him by the accusers and the media.
 
Agree 100% with you Hoofmark. MJ's friends need to come out more and tell the truth about MJ instead of letting this "weird" image of MJ persist in the minds of many around the world. Anyone that doesn't think it exists are fooling themselves. There is still a long road ahead for MJ to fully get his freedom back from all that slander thrust onto him by the accusers and the media.
If you think MJ's friends are going to change peoples and haters mind you are mistaken. It will not change a thing. The trial should have done that if they have any respect for thier justice system. if they don't then that is their own fault.
Worry about the American legal system that is so corrupt that the citizens don't have faith in it anymore. Why should they come out? The case is OVER. If they chose to believe some crooks instead of MJ, that is their problem, not MJ's or his friends. MJ grew up infront of the entire world. If some people want to take some thieves version of event instead of someone who has been spreading love and joy, then so be it. Who cares anyway?

Sometimes I feel that it is MJ's closet fans who need reassurance.
Nelson Mandela was a convicted felon. He spent 27 years in jail. He walks as a free man and nobody cares that he went to prison.
All the people who do their research into MJ, as they will will know that he was railroaded. Neither MJ, nor hois friends need to come out and say a word.
 
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i have to admit I used to feel a bit against him (jeffrey daniels), after I saw a video of who I THINK was him, where he said he was dissapointed MJ wouldnt give him credit.

But full respect to the guy... didnt shy away from defending him, didnt say "I only know him on a professional level", doesnt seem to hold grudges for MJ being famous for the moonwalk, and still has the utmost respect for him.
 
I my opinion the more people who speak out like Daniels did the better. There are a lot of people who only saw and heard the slanted reports in the media during the trial and still think Michael is guilty. Every time people like Daniels come out and firmly state the opposite it is one more reason for a few more people to consider his innocence. I don't just want him to succeed as a performer. I want his name cleared.

Agreed. A lot of people still believe the accusations - and I believe many of these people do simply because they can't consider the fact that the media is often biased & skewed. A lot of people take the media's word as truth & gospel. And in a society that has progressively turned into a celebrity-obsessed one, it's much easier to demonize someone with all the negative press they receive. So the more people that can speak out on behalf of MJ, the better. I don't care if the trial is over - that horrible stigma will stay with MJ for some time and I much prefer positive press & mentionings to counteract all the negative BS as opposed to no positive mentionings on his character at all.

If you think MJ's friends are going to change peoples and haters mind you are mistaken. It will not change a thing. The trial should have done that if they have any respect for thier justice system. if they don't then that is their own fault.
Worry about the American legal system that is so corrupt that the citizens don't have faith in it anymore. Why should they come out? The case is OVER. If they chose to believe some crooks instead of MJ, that is their problem, not MJ's or his friends. MJ grew up infront of the entire world. If some people want to take some thieves version of event instead of someone who has been spreading love and joy, then so be it. Who cares anyway?

Sometimes I feel that it is MJ's closet fans who need reassurance.
Nelson Mandela was a convicted felon. He spent 27 years in jail. He walks as a free man and nobody cares that he went to prison.
All the people who do their research into MJ, as they will will know that he was railroaded. Neither MJ, nor hois friends need to come out and say a word.

I see what you're saying Datsmay but unfortunately many people don't care to look at MJ on the whole. He may have grown up in front of the whole world, but that's something that people tend to conveniently forget. As for the justice system, well many people just can't be bothered with seeking out the truth. MJ was acquitted, and when I refuted a friend of mine (who's a hater) with this fact, she promptly responded with how MJ bought the jury off (which has to be the stupidest thing I heard :smilerolleyes:). If she chooses to believe this, yes, it is her problem. But I don't like the idea of her getting other people to believe the same, you know what I mean? You're probably right in that MJ's friends are unlikely to change people's minds. But I suppose it never hurts to try, right? I'll take Daniel's mentionings any day over say a comedian making yet another tasteless & unfounded crack on MJ (which ironically does perpetuate MJ's image and affect people's opinions of him, but a source close to him doesn't - :angry:argh!).
 
MJ was acquitted, and when I refuted a friend of mine (who's a hater) with this fact, she promptly responded with how MJ bought the jury off (which has to be the stupidest thing I heard :smilerolleyes:

My rebuttal would then be pushing her out of a moving car.
 
That is the point though, we need to leave people alone with their issues. it is their issues. if they have been told by a court, NOT GUILTY, and they can't accept it, even though they didn't see any evidence and they saw nothing ontowards, don't you think they are the ones with the issue? Not MJ. There comes a time whjen you have to stop the canpaign.
It is like the missionary telling people 'Jesus Save'. Well if they don't know that by now,why keep going on. What can they do anyway? MJ moves on with his life. End of story.
I worry about the fans more than anybody else, cause it is as if they need acceptance. I find that disturbing. Why worry about what anybody says. If you are concerned about the media then join the fight to change it, but for heaven sake. Accept the verdict and move on, Stop reading hostile literatures, cause they give you the feeling that everyone is against MJ and that isn't the case. When MJ went shopping with his daughters I saw male and female black and white all ages waiting to greet him. Doesn't look like people are judging him to me.

These are the real everyday people, not the people who speak on tv or in the media.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdl0bKmNa8c
 
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It will stop when the media let it go.

Thanks for posting this.

Daniel added: “Isn’t it odd that the media can be so forgiving of
people who are in rehabilitation, people who have been convicted
and gone to jail? I just think it’s unfair that the media paint such
a negative picture of a person who was not found guilty.”

I find that distrubing as well. The media forgives former drug addicts and people who killed people - people who hurt society. However, Michael never trashed a soul and he is treated like a criminal all because haters wanna hate, people get too clingy and people can't take "NO" for an answer.

I am glad that Jeffery said what he had to say. I feel that a lot of people need to come forward, who truly know Michael, and show people the real MJ. Not this weirdness about him. I doubt if that is going to change anything.

My rebuttal would then be pushing her out of a moving car.

LOL! You are a bit mean about that. I would have let my friend know the deal. I would have told my friend, "if you can't accept the truth, then that is your problem. However, if you can't respect the fact that I do not wanna hear that nonsense about MJ and whatever you want toi say about him to my face, then you can go somewhere" then I would have push the person out of the car. LOL.

There are a lot of people who only saw and heard the slanted reports in the media during the trial and still think Michael is guilty.

Well, those people are hardheaded and MJ or his friends cannot really do anything about it. It is up to those people who feel whatever about MJ to change. They have to research about the case themselves. MJ has to move on with his life and we have to let this crap go. It is great that Jeffery said what he had to say and he spoke the truth, but with the media today and a lot of people being stupid and listening to the media instead of thinking for themselves, the truth will never fully be told. People have to change the way they think and they have to be independent and know what that word means. MJ's friends did their part, but the people got to do their part as well. I let my family and friends know, that they cannot trash MJ around me because it is either a nasty agrument or an ass being kicked. If they want to know the truth, all they have to do is listen to what I tell them,. read the "Conspiracy" book and I will give them links that have loads of information on the trial and the GQ article. However, THEY have to make that choice to learn and read instead of reading articles from tabloid reporters aka the media.
 
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I hate to break the news to you all, but this case will never be over. It's going to be part of/attached to Michael for the rest of his life and beyond.

That's why I think it's only good for someone like Jeffrey Daniel to speak out and tell people who Michael really is.

This case will never end in people's minds. The only thing we can change is the way they will perceive it. We can't make it go away, we can only work on telling the truth and so change people's opinion.

Ditto. People, we're gonna have to live with it. I'm sorry that it's even brought up but hey that's what they do. And really, who can blame Jeffrey for telling the truth? I'm glad he stood up for his boy like that.
 
People are going to forever lump MJ in with R.Kelly and O.J. no amount of ignoring that reality is going to change things, even if chandler, arviso, and francia came out tomorrow and said they all lied; MJ was doomed the moment he was accused. People would rather believe the worst about you than look for the best in you, fact of life.
 
I am glad Jeffery said what he said and I agree it time the MEDIA let it go. Yes, there maybe a FEW people who want to believe Michael is guilty (and often time, these are people who did not like him from the start either because they are jealous of MIchael or they were beatle fans and still pissed that Michael brought the catolog, or just stupid people who believe anything the media tells them); however, I do not believe most people care one bit about it. I have said before that you can not go by what the media say because they are only pushing their own agenda and NOT the world. I agree with Jeffery about the w***o J***o comments. To me, that is bias and prejudice (any maybe racial driven) because I do not see the name calling of Britney Speas, the Osbornes, Amy whitehouse, etc regardles to all the things based on FACTS that they do whereas most of the stuff said about Michael is based on rumors and specualations and the media wants to call him out of his name. It seem like the media wants to degrade blacks celebs far quicker with names compare to white celebs with problems.
 
Remember, alot of these media people like Bill Oreilly,Sean Hannity and Combs, and others said Michael career was OVER and some people like Wendy WIlliams and a few other said Michael should retired. Well, the man brought out Thriller 25 and outsold Janet. Go figure that people do not know @#$% if God has something for you that NO MAN can take from you. I think Michael knows that if he would have listen to people when it comes to his career, Michael would have never left Motown to get control over his music (people thought the Jackson were crazy to do that); Michael would have never went solo and hired Quincy Jones (people thought he was crazy to leave his brothers and to get Q as a producer since Q was more of a Jazz/blues producer at the time); Thriller would not have been made (some thought OTW was his best record and he would never top it), even after the 1993 case, Michael was told he would NOT have a career even thought he went on to come out with a number one cd and song "Scream" and score the FIRST song to debut at number one. Once again, you can NOT go by what someone say, NOBOBY KNOWS THE WORLD.
 
I am glad Jeffery said what he said and I agree it time the MEDIA let it go. Yes, there maybe a FEW people who want to believe Michael is guilty (and often time, these are people who did not like him from the start either because they are jealous of MIchael or they were beatle fans and still pissed that Michael brought the catolog, or just stupid people who believe anything the media tells them); however, I do not believe most people care one bit about it. I have said before that you can not go by what the media say because they are only pushing their own agenda and NOT the world. I agree with Jeffery about the w***o J***o comments. To me, that is bias and prejudice (any maybe racial driven) because I do not see the name calling of Britney Speas, the Osbornes, Amy whitehouse, etc regardles to all the things based on FACTS that they do whereas most of the stuff said about Michael is based on rumors and specualations and the media wants to call him out of his name. It seem like the media wants to degrade blacks celebs far quicker with names compare to white celebs with problems.
I agree with you terrel. It is the media that is the problem, not the general public. When the media change, then the public view will change as well. The media is hated by the public now. Check utube you will see that nobody believes them anymore. We, as MJ fans shoyld joun the fight against media reporting. If they get enough grassroot pressure, then they woll have to change, but ot is not right to take a few hateful comment and say that the general public think this of Michael. That is not the case.
Peope who judge MJ as guilty, I consider that they are ill informed or that they have personal issues. Either case, they are not the majoruty, and it isn't true that they will not change, they can and they will, when there is a groundswell of accdeptance for MJ again, that wioll change. people are just like tyhat.
Mohammed Ali was about the most hated man in America. Now everybody loves him again.
 
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Terrell, as usual, on point. The media has their own agendas and the examples that you stated were on the money. People underestimate Michael because of his demeanor. They think they know him but they really have no idea what he was about. That is why I am always happy that people who do know MJ come forward and tell the truth about him.

Also, people got to understand how the media truly work. If people start to realized that the media is about making money and not reporting what is positive or true, then they can apply that fact to what happened to MJ. People know that you can't trust the media with anything. The media will take your words and switch it around to make it the story that they want to hear and then they misquote you for no damn reason. I mean, MJ can't even create an image for himself without the media hating on his hustle by saying that MJ is "bizarre". I mean, that is what I mean. The media now knows that they can't destroy Michael Jackson. They have tried and failed many times.
 
They need to stop talking about the case now. The case has been tried in court and he was aqutted. They should move on to the music.

Exactly, that's what I was thinking.

And it's pretty bold of Jeffrey to claim that he invented the "moonwalk". Like he was the first one, ever. hahaha!

Well I guess we all want credit for something, right? So we can feel important.
 
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I my opinion the more people who speak out like Daniels did the better. There are a lot of people who only saw and heard the slanted reports in the media during the trial and still think Michael is guilty. Every time people like Daniels come out and firmly state the opposite it is one more reason for a few more people to consider his innocence. I don't just want him to succeed as a performer. I want his name cleared.

I agree 100%
The more people hear that Michael is innocent, the more they'll question the allegations and agree on his innocence.
It's naive to think that people will just get over it, they won't. And I'd much prefer for people to talk about how Michael is an innocent musical genious, than a 'possibly guilty/maybe innocent/who knows' musical genious.
 
I worry about the fans more than anybody else, cause it is as if they need acceptance. I find that disturbing. Why worry about what anybody says. If you are concerned about the media then join the fight to change it, but for heaven sake. Accept the verdict and move on, Stop reading hostile literatures, cause they give you the feeling that everyone is against MJ and that isn't the case.

Okay, I'm just a little confused - are you addressing me or saying fans in general? Because I'm very much on the positive end of the MJ spectrum and I have in fact taken an interest in the fight against the media. All I was trying to say is that Daniel's contribution on behalf of MJ could change someone's mind about him - who are we to say? I 1000% agree with you that the media needs to move on from the trial - I for one am most certaily getting tired of seeing pieces of MJ news that tie in "who was acquitted of charges in 2005"/"who was accused & tried on molestaion charges", etc. But so long as the media keeps that up, I'm glad there are people on MJ's side more than willing to refute that kind of stuff, like Daniel's.

My rebuttal would then be pushing her out of a moving car.

LOL! She's too good a friend to do that - but I'll keep that in mind for haters who aren't friends! :happy:

LOL! You are a bit mean about that. I would have let my friend know the deal. I would have told my friend, "if you can't accept the truth, then that is your problem. However, if you can't respect the fact that I do not wanna hear that nonsense about MJ and whatever you want toi say about him to my face, then you can go somewhere" then I would have push the person out of the car. LOL.

Well, those people are hardheaded and MJ or his friends cannot really do anything about it. It is up to those people who feel whatever about MJ to change. They have to research about the case themselves. MJ has to move on with his life and we have to let this crap go. It is great that Jeffery said what he had to say and he spoke the truth, but with the media today and a lot of people being stupid and listening to the media instead of thinking for themselves, the truth will never fully be told. People have to change the way they think and they have to be independent and know what that word means. MJ's friends did their part, but the people got to do their part as well. I let my family and friends know, that they cannot trash MJ around me because it is either a nasty agrument or an ass being kicked. If they want to know the truth, all they have to do is listen to what I tell them,. read the "Conspiracy" book and I will give them links that have loads of information on the trial and the GQ article. However, THEY have to make that choice to learn and read instead of reading articles from tabloid reporters aka the media.

Oh trust me - I schooled her the best I could. Believe me you, my friends & family know that I will go off on them (in a mostly civilized manner :cheeky:) if they insult & slander MJ in front of me. I have offered links & reading material for them, and solid lengthy conversations to change their minds. I also let them know that I sought out the truth myself being a slightly newer fan so there's no reason they can't either. But I don't worry myself with it so much anymore. As you said, people have to come to their own decisions to look into that kind of stuff and too much energy is wasted on trying to convince them otherwise because no, you can't change the way people think. So long as they're respectful with me in terms of MJ, I'll leave them alone about it all... eventually :).
 
I agree 100%
The more people hear that Michael is innocent, the more they'll question the allegations and agree on his innocence.
It's naive to think that people will just get over it, they won't. And I'd much prefer for people to talk about how Michael is an innocent musical genious, than a 'possibly guilty/maybe innocent/who knows' musical genious.

I have got the opposite view. I feel that they need to stop bombarding the public with the case and allow MJ and the case to go to rest. They need to give it a rest. There is a lot more about MJ than the wretched case. They can tell about the beautiful qualities about MJ without bringing up the case or declaring that he didn't do it. We know he didn't do it. 12 jurers examined the case and came back with the right verdict. Let jeffrey and others talk about the qualities of MJ. Let them stop talking about the case. We have heard enough. JMO
 
That is the point though, we need to leave people alone with their issues. it is their issues. if they have been told by a court, NOT GUILTY, and they can't accept it, even though they didn't see any evidence and they saw nothing ontowards, don't you think they are the ones with the issue? Not MJ. There comes a time whjen you have to stop the canpaign.
It is like the missionary telling people 'Jesus Save'. Well if they don't know that by now,why keep going on. What can they do anyway? MJ moves on with his life. End of story.
I worry about the fans more than anybody else, cause it is as if they need acceptance. I find that disturbing. Why worry about what anybody says. If you are concerned about the media then join the fight to change it, but for heaven sake. Accept the verdict and move on, Stop reading hostile literatures, cause they give you the feeling that everyone is against MJ and that isn't the case. When MJ went shopping with his daughters I saw male and female black and white all ages waiting to greet him. Doesn't look like people are judging him to me.

These are the real everyday people, not the people who speak on tv or in the media.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdl0bKmNa8c


i love this vid. What i dont get is, who's the girl in red just walking next 2 him and at the end behind him!!!???:scratch:
 
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