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Lady with the Tramp said:
And...
I can't truly believe she is 100% sincere. I'm afraid she would take advantage of it to become famous. I dont want to sound rude but I really doubt this woman (I'm sorry if I'm wrong). What she said are kinda vague to me. I'm really confused...
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In my opinion, this seems FAR from Bonnie's intention. Did you read her statement at the bottom of the page with the videos on them on her website? That really speaks to her character. I have also looked around on the rest of her website so I could get a feel for who she is and what she has done in the past with channeling spirits. (there are other vidoes on her site that are not related to MJ)

I just think that you can't really judge a person's character just from watching a couple vids on one channeling session. Look more into her, then make your personal judgement. :)
 
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Apparently Michael said that the afterlife is not like he expected? What exactly does that mean? There is no heaven? There is no God? Nothing we all imagine is actually true? It sounds like he went to some dark place and he's lost, can't find out what to do there.
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Psychics do not believe Heaven is a place of rest. They believe that after death the spirit wanders the earth trying to help the living and trying to get in contact with the living. It sounds really suck tbh because it means you don't get to rest, you're constantly worrying about life even though it's no longer your responsibility.
 
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geekgirl101 said:
Psychics do not believe Heaven is a place of rest. They believe that after death the spirit wanders the earth trying to help the living and trying to get in contact with the living. It sounds really suck tbh because it means you don't get to rest, you're constantly worrying about life even though it's no longer your responsibility.
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Dont agree with you there. But then it does depend on what you would class as 'Heaven'.

Spirits dont "wander" anywhere.

Spirits are pre designated. When you pass, you either become a guide or an angel etc etc - u dont wander.

Re Michael saying the afterlife "isn't what he expected".... this is the only part of the mediuims reading I had issues with. I have been doing "this kind of thing" for 20 years and thats the first time I ever EVER heard a spirit say that... which makes me think... that part was either made up or mis interpreted.

Knowing our lovely MJ, he may have been expecting angels flying around with harps and singing ....
 
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Court.ney.x said:
I agree.
Can the medium really force a spirit to talk to them though? Is that even possible?
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Absolutely not. A spirit comes to you voluntarily. You don't, you can't hail and spirit and call one to you.
 
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geekgirl101 said:
Psychics do not believe Heaven is a place of rest. They believe that after death the spirit wanders the earth trying to help the living and trying to get in contact with the living. It sounds really suck tbh because it means you don't get to rest, you're constantly worrying about life even though it's no longer your responsibility.
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I don't think it's wise to place a blanket statement like that about all psychics. Everyone has different beliefs, but even those psychics that do belief spirits wander the earth...it isn't in the sense of "that's just what you do when you die". It's generally only the spirits that have turmoil about their death, or unfinished business they feel they need to clear up.


Missy said:
Spirits are pre designated. When you pass, you either become a guide or an angel etc etc - u dont wander.

Re Michael saying the afterlife "isn't what he expected".... this is the only part of the mediuims reading I had issues with. I have been doing "this kind of thing" for 20 years and thats the first time I ever EVER heard a spirit say that... which makes me think... that part was either made up or mis interpreted.

Knowing our lovely MJ, he may have been expecting angels flying around with harps and singing ....
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It is believed by some that you can become a guide/angel after your passing...it isn't something that is just assumed...particularly for all spirits. Everyone is different I think. Some may go straight into serving as a guide to someone else who's mission was like their own on earth...while others may first want to clear up any "unfinished business" regarding their life/death. Some may also want to spend time consoling their loved ones, while others take time to just rest (as James Van Praagh mentioned in the video that was linked earlier in this thread). Nobody really knows what the process is...which brings me to the next subject that I'm wondering why many of you are struggling with; how it was mentioned that it "wasn't as expected". In my personal experience with psychics, and also in reading books by some world renowned psychics...this is actually common. I mean do you really think any of us here on Earth know exactly what the afterlife will be like? I think that statement is not to say that there is no "God" and you just wander around trying to figure things out... just that it's different than how was originally perceived, perhaps in a way that just couldn't be understood until experienced.
 
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I've never heard of a psychic to claim that spirits just wander around on earth trying to contact people. lol
 
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All of these psychs need psychics help. They just tell us what they want us to hear, and they tries to get money from lying. It is easy to be like MJ because you can just watch a clips from interviews and learn his personality. It is a Bull, anything for money.
 
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so are there any new videos? I didn't really get anything from the first two...but as I said I have a very open mind so I would be willing to listen again :)
 
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I think this is possibly the most interesting thread on the board! LOL I love to read everyone's opinions =] I'm just patiently waiting for more news or videos...or something... =] lol
 
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geekgirl101 said:
Psychics do not believe Heaven is a place of rest. They believe that after death the spirit wanders the earth trying to help the living and trying to get in contact with the living. It sounds really suck tbh because it means you don't get to rest, you're constantly worrying about life even though it's no longer your responsibility.
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To me that sounds so depressing. :mellow: I DON'T WANT TO DIE!
 
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amygrace said:
It is believed by some that you can become a guide/angel after your passing...it isn't something that is just assumed...particularly for all spirits. Everyone is different I think.
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Yes Amy, thats why I said guides/angels etc...
 
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strawberrypie999 said:
I think this is possibly the most interesting thread on the board! LOL I love to read everyone's opinions =] I'm just patiently waiting for more news or videos...or something... =] lol
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I agree, quite interesting! I'm anxiously awaiting updates too. I keep checking her website....


Missy. said:
thats why I said guides/angels etc...
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Sorry I missed the "etc" part.
 
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I just got back from viewing the "Michael Quotes" thread and felt this one just had place to be posted here...

"In a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe."

 
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amygrace said:
I just got back from viewing the "Michael Quotes" thread and felt this one just had place to be posted here...

"In a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe."
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amygrace,

Thankyou for this thread, I've really enjoyed reading your posts, very enlightening.

I used to sceptifcal but now I am a believer in such things having had experiences myself and studying angelic reiki and angel therapy with doreen virtue. I first started getting a tape on hearing messages from your angels and guides and it really does work, at first I did wonder if maybe it is just your higher self thoughts I don't really know, but it made a difference to my life. Once you start though you start connecting more and more. I started getting visions but I didn't really know what they were. They would go too quick. I used to write questions and ask for answers which I would write down, I wondered if maybe it is just the thoughts from your higher self, but the answers I'd get would never be like the ones I'd give myself ,that was the mystery.

The night before my dad passed both my sister and I both had different experiences, she saw pictures of him at different ages in his life in the bathroom mirror and her son did too, and I just woke up in the night to see a screen with writing on "leave now", I didn't know what it meant at the time but the next day when told of my dad's passing I realised it must have been a message. What it is exactly I do not know, but this dimension we are in, is not just all there is to anything. We are energy which is in a physical vessel called a body,when that body dies, where does that energy go, because it does go somewhere.

Of course there are frauds , I've seen loads of psychic reports on Michael, none of which resonated as truth to me, I did see a beautiful forum post by a brazilian girl who had a dream about Michael and I genuinely felt she had been in contact with his spirit, this lady Bonnie I'm not completely sure about yet but she is has the feel of the most genuine that I've heard so far and she doesn't appear to be doing it for money or fame. I'm going to listen a bit more before I make my mind up.

All channelers information is never 100% accurate because it is like going through a filter and that persons views and opinions can affect the information being channeling. I think she says this herself somewhere. I look forward to following further clips.

Anyone can start doing this though, just get a good tape,like connecting with your spirit guide or guardian angel.
 
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Gaiaschild said:
I used to sceptifcal but now I am a believer in such things having had experiences myself and studying angelic reiki and angel therapy with doreen virtue.
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All channelers information is never 100% accurate because it is like going through a filter and that persons views and opinions can affect the information being channeling. I think she says this herself somewhere. I look forward to following further clips.

Anyone can start doing this though, just get a good tape,like connecting with your spirit guide or guardian angel.
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I love Doreen Virtue!
 
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I love Doreen Virtue as well! I have some of her cards too!
Could someone recommend a nice CD or file for connecting with your spirit guides? I've tried a couple but I always fail to see anything. On the other hand, I don't do it very often nor am I patient... lol I've also tried the Brainsync frequencies. I tried once during the night and I had a near-astral projection. I remember seeing my foot separating from my normal foot (it was very shiny like gold, and not fully formed) and also I felt this tingling all over my body. They say these signs are typical at the start of an OBE.
 
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1offthewall1 said:
if the psychic gives mj a good reading, fans believe in them. if the psychic gives mj a bad reading, the fans dont believe in them.
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froggytuff said:
true true . guilty as charged.
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I don't think anyone just blindly believes someone that says something appealing. Still, how else would you determine whether the message/psychic is genuine or not? It's like saying "if someone says the sky is green...you don't believe them. if someone says the sky is blue...you do". Um...yeah.
 
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I've been a lurker on this particular thread, and at first I thought that since I have no psychic abilities I couldn't contribute much, but what the hey, here's my input :)

I watched all of the videos and the spirit she communicated did have a lot of Michael-like qualities. So I can't write her off completely, BUT, I can't help but feel uneasy for a number of reasons. Geekgirl and TheOriginalPYT pretty much summed up what I've been thinking:

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It's very, VERY easy to attract a spirit who is immitating another spirit just for shits and giggles--believe me. So I'm going to stand by what I say when i say that I would have had to have been there myself to believe all of it, and actually felt his energy. I stopped practicing my 'gifts' a long time ago because you open yourself up to all kinds of crazy shit once you open your mind to the spirit world. It's a very scary thing, and not something to be toyed with. These are my beliefs, and I don't care what anybody thinks about them.

But yes... IF that was Michael's spirit... than I agree that people need to just leave him the fuck alone in the spirit world. She called him first, he didn't just come to her (if that was Michael).
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I agree 100%.

The median said it herself: there's no way she can know 100% that the spirit she communicated with actually was indeed Michael. To some of you this increased her credibility--and it does, don't get me wrong. But isn't that kind of scarey. The fact that when you dabble with the spirit-world you never can be completely sure that the spirit you're dealing with is who it claims to be? that maybe it's a negative spirit/demon in disguise? ioknow 'bout chu, but that freaks the crap out of me!

Also, I know that based on that YT video some of you are relieved and such. But for me, it's the exact opposite. After I watched that video I was like "oh dear God, please don't let that be him" I was so sad because it didn't sound like he was at peace :no:. Am I the only one who feels this way?

I definately don't think that this psychic has negative intentions...I just don't believe that this is Michael....
 
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CarribeanQueen said:
I've been a lurker on this particular thread, and at first I thought that since I have no psychic abilities I couldn't contribute much, but what the hey, here's my input :)

I watched all of the videos and the spirit she communicated did have a lot of Michael-like qualities. So I can't write her off completely, BUT, I can't help but feel uneasy for a number of reasons. Geekgirl and TheOriginalPYT pretty much summed up what I've been thinking:



I agree 100%.

The median said it herself: there's no way she can know 100% that the spirit she communicated with actually was indeed Michael. To some of you this increased her credibility--and it does, don't get me wrong. But isn't that kind of scarey. The fact that when you dabble with the spirit-world you never can be completely sure that the spirit you're dealing with is who it claims to be? that maybe it's a negative spirit/demon in disguise? ioknow 'bout chu, but that freaks the crap out of me!

Also, I know that based on that YT video some of you are relieved and such. But for me, it's the exact opposite. After I watched that video I was like "oh dear God, please don't let that be him" I was so sad because it didn't sound like he was at peace :no:. Am I the only one who feels this way?

I definately don't think that this psychic has negative intentions...I just don't believe that this is Michael....
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I feel the exact same way...........
 
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CarribeanQueen said:
I've been a lurker on this particular thread, and at first I thought that since I have no psychic abilities I couldn't contribute much, but what the hey, here's my input :)

I watched all of the videos and the spirit she communicated did have a lot of Michael-like qualities. So I can't write her off completely, BUT, I can't help but feel uneasy for a number of reasons. Geekgirl and TheOriginalPYT pretty much summed up what I've been thinking

The median said it herself: there's no way she can know 100% that the spirit she communicated with actually was indeed Michael. To some of you this increased her credibility--and it does, don't get me wrong. But isn't that kind of scarey. The fact that when you dabble with the spirit-world you never can be completely sure that the spirit you're dealing with is who it claims to be? that maybe it's a negative spirit/demon in disguise? ioknow 'bout chu, but that freaks the crap out of me!

Also, I know that based on that YT video some of you are relieved and such. But for me, it's the exact opposite. After I watched that video I was like "oh dear God, please don't let that be him" I was so sad because it didn't sound like he was at peace :no:. Am I the only one who feels this way?

I definately don't think that this psychic has negative intentions...I just don't believe that this is Michael....
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I think it's natural for anyone who doesn't know much about this stuff, or rather...hasn't done IN DEPTH research on psychics/the spirit world...to be "freaked out" by multiple people's "ideas" of what is what. The idea that Bonnie could be dealing with a "demon in disguise" just cracks me up...lol. Because, that's just a ridiculous statement to me. There are "negative" or rather "earthbound" spirits (I don't believe in good vs. evil) - but they are relatively easy to "feel" as they have lower vibrations. If you take someone who operates at a particularly high vibration, (like many psychics who are genuine and in good integrity)...it is easy to recognize lower ones. Bonnie's statement that she couldn't know 100% that she was really dealing with Michael Jackson, was simply...honest. It isn't to say that she could possibly be dealing with a "demon", and it still didn't take away from her own personal feeling about who the spirit really was, OR the fact that information she received from the spirit has been proven accurate so far.

Also, you weren't the only one who felt sad because it seemed like he wasn't at peace. We've discussed this a few times already here...you should know about that if you've been lurkin'. ;) Basically it comes down to the fact that those particular videos were done merely a week after his death when everything was still very fresh and new. And, it sounded more like he was just concerned about his family.

I am aware that there is still a possiblity that whatever we heard from Bonnie could have been fake or a misinterpreted message...and I respect the opinions of those who believe it is. I am still personally feeling otherwise. Maybe we could all feel this out some more if she'd post more videos already!! Lol...:p I'm just anxious to see if we hear more from Bonnie regarding Michael.
 
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yeah, i did feel he's at peace....just concerned.
Which is normal i think.

Bt i am curious how he is feeling now, he must have found his way around by now...
 
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i don't know whether this psychic tells the truth or not..but anyway if its true, did he say that there's complete silence? like no music? oh man that must be really boring!! i hate silence
also i was wondering..can the spirits talk in different languages? like in this case, could mj communicate with a psychic that doesn't speak or understand english??
 
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amygrace said:
Also, you weren't the only one who felt sad because it seemed like he wasn't at peace. We've discussed this a few times already here...you should know about that if you've been lurkin'. ;)
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:mello: What's with the sarcasm? I gave my opinion in what I felt to be a respectful manner. Just because you and I disagree on this doesn't mean you have to catch a tone of condescension. I lurked this thread--all 20 somthing pages and it felt like a large majority felt he was at peace. I recognized that there was a small minority who felt otherwise, but I still wanted to know if there was any other lurkers who felt the same way I did. that's why I said what I said. Sorry if you took it literally.

"I think it's natural for anyone who doesn't know much about this stuff, or rather...hasn't done IN DEPTH research on psychics/the spirit world...to be "freaked out" by multiple people's "ideas" of what is what. The idea that Bonnie could be dealing with a "demon in disguise" just cracks me up...lol. Because, that's just a ridiculous statement to me. There are "negative" or rather "earthbound" spirits (I don't believe in good vs. evil)

See, and this is where you're making a lot of assumptions. I said that I don't know much about psychics and mediums. But that doesn't mean I'm ignorant about the spirit world. I've actually had an encounter with a spirit who initially portrayed itself to be kind and benevolant, when in reality it was really, really evil. It's not fun, and it's really scary. So if you think that my concern that you're never 100% sure what exactly you're dealing with is "rediculous", then I don't know what to tell you, because I know what I've experienced.

Just my .02. -_-
 
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CarribeanQueen said:
:mello: What's with the sarcasm? I gave my opinion in what I felt to be a respectful manner. Just because you and I disagree on this doesn't mean you have to catch a tone of condescension. I lurked this thread--all 20 somthing pages and it felt like a large majority felt he was at peace. I recognized that there was a small minority who felt otherwise, but I still wanted to know if there was any other lurkers who felt the same way I did. that's why I said what I said. Sorry if you took it literally.

"I think it's natural for anyone who doesn't know much about this stuff, or rather...hasn't done IN DEPTH research on psychics/the spirit world...to be "freaked out" by multiple people's "ideas" of what is what. The idea that Bonnie could be dealing with a "demon in disguise" just cracks me up...lol. Because, that's just a ridiculous statement to me. There are "negative" or rather "earthbound" spirits (I don't believe in good vs. evil)

See, and this is where you're making a lot of assumptions. I said that I don't know much about psychics and mediums. But that doesn't mean I'm ignorant about the spirit world. I've actually had an encounter with a spirit who initially portrayed itself to be kind and benevolant, when in reality it was really, really evil. It's not fun, and it's really scary. So if you think that my concern that you're never 100% sure what exactly you're dealing with is "rediculous", then I don't know what to tell you, because I know what I've experienced.

Just my .02. -_-
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Woah woah woah. Back up. lol. I do apologize if you interpreted my post to be sarcastic in any way, but I assure you it was NOT. I know that online you can't really tell someone's tone...but I truly was not being sarcastic, I was not making an attack on you, and I was not assuming you were just "stupid" concerning spiritual things. I made the above statement as a generalization, and...I was merely giving my opinion at the idea of a genuine psychic not being able to recognize a "demonic" spirit, which I don't really think exist in the first place. It was all a matter of exchanging opinions and thoughts. I like to have in depth conversations about these things with people who think differently than I do...it's interesting. Recognize that it can be hard to do that through typing though as people will put their own tone/view as to what the person is expressing. Don't assume an attack unless it is CLEARLY stated. Which I don't think it was.
 
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nakkiel said:
i don't know whether this psychic tells the truth or not..but anyway if its true, did he say that there's complete silence? like no music? oh man that must be really boring!! i hate silence
also i was wondering..can the spirits talk in different languages? like in this case, could mj communicate with a psychic that doesn't speak or understand english??
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He didn't mention anything about silence...not that I can remember. ?
I definitely think there is music even after you die...of course! Afterall, where does inspiration for music come from? Michael always said he felt the his songs were written already and were just being handed to him by a higher source. ;) Music was in Michael's SOUL...surely he will continue to enjoy it in the afterlife.

I don't think there are such limitations in the spirit world either, like we have on Earth. Language being one of them. I think that if they needed to get through to someone on Earth, they would be able to do so in whatever language that person would understand.
 
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